What's South of San Diego's Border Trolley?

[@psychorabbitt]

Dude shot a video in 2021 and released it in 2024. The Whale has a longer turn around on content than Miles.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

To be fair, they posted an old video of the same topic, but they removed it and chose to remake it into this since their editing improved greatly since that time

[@amadeosendiulo2137]

Nautical Miles in Transit.

[@randomtransitadventuresshorts]

what about me?

[@bobwhit1544]

And you watched it

[@thefareplayer2254]

2:05 This is such good advice! Thank you for saying it, Caleb.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

OXXO across from another OXXO is the same energy as Dunkin' in Boston. You can ride San Diego Trolley rolling stock in Mendoza, Argentina! The Metrotranvía Mendoza opened in 2012, and it has used former San Diego Siemens-Duewag U2s since opening as well as Siemens SD-100s that San Diego also sent in 2022. The name Tijuana comes from the name of a ranch, Rancho Tía Juana, established in 1829 by Santiago Argüello Moraga. Historians believe it comes from the word Tiwan ("by the sea") in the language of the Kumeyaay, the First Nations people of the San Diego-Tijuana region. And yeah, it's true, the Caesar salad was created in Tijuana and has nothing to do with the Roman emperor! It was created by a guy named Caesar/Cesare Cardini, an Italian immigrant originally born in Baverno, Piedmont with seven siblings. While his sisters Bonifacio and Annibale stayed in Italy, three brothers emigrated to North America. Nereo opened a small hotel near the casino in Santa Cruz, California. Alessandro and Gaudenzio eventually were in the restaurant business in Mexico City, and Alessandro became Cesare's partner in Tijuana. Cesare sailed to NY in 1913 on the RMS Olympic, boarded a train to Montreal, returned to Italy, came back to the US in 1919, opened a restaurant in Sacramento, moved to San Diego, and decided to open a restaurant (first of several) called Caesar's in Tijuana. As mentioned, he owned a restaurant that attracted Americans circumventing Prohibition. According to an interview with his daughter Rosa, on July 4, 1924, they came in such numbers that Caesar "simply wasn't prepared for that many people" and he improvised by making the salad "to give the dinner guests a show as well as a meal", putting together the ingredients in the middle of the dining room. It then became fashionable among celebrities, especially after the restaurant moved to a larger building so it could have a hotel, as people wanted to stay the night. After Prohibition ended and President Lázaro Cárdenas was against casinos, tourism in Tijuana fell off, and Cardini quit his Mexican business and moved back to San Diego. He moved to Los Angeles in 1938, focused on production and marketing his salad dressing before he passed in 1956.

[@luislaplume8261]

@@AverytheCubanAmerican Dear AverytheCubanAmerican, Besides that and the Tiajuana Easy Divorce Laws, what else was Tiajuana famous for?

[@af8312]

Doesn't New Haven Union have this same type of thing?

[@29downtheline]

Awesome video! All of that food looked amazing!

[@OfficerExe]

You did forgotten to mention that Mendoza, Argentina does have the 1000 and 2000 series still running, fulfilling the same purpose as a light rail

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

The San Ysidro Port of Entry is the fourth-busiest land border crossing in the world, the second-busiest excluding the crossings between mainland China, Macau, and Hong Kong. The busiest land border crossing not counting China and its SARs is Woodlands Checkpoint/Sultan Iskandar Building crossing between Singapore and Malaysia). The border crossing at San Ysidro accommodated 15,845,661 cars entering the US from Mexico in 2023, a 3.2 percent increase from 2022. San Ysidro also accommodated 17.4 percent of incoming pedestrian crossings from Mexico in 2023, a 2.5 percent increase from 2022. Ensenada means cove, and was shortened from Ensenada de Todos Santos! You didn't see it since you stuck to the Pacific coast, but if you travelled east towards the Gulf of California, you would've seen the northern bit of the Gulf where the Vaquita is found! The Vaquita is a porpoise, the world's smallest cetacean (measuring 5 feet long on average) that has been critically endangered due to bycatch in gillnets from shrimp and illegal totoaba fishing (totoaba is a fish also endemic to the Gulf of California). Vaquita means "little cow" because of the dark rings around its eyes and the dark patches around its lips, which give it a bovine appearance. Ceviche is supposed to be seafood, not beef! Ceviche originated from Peru, consisting of fish or shellfish marinated in citrus and seasonings, and is recognized by UNESCO as an expression of Peruvian traditional cuisine and Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity. Latin American countries have different versions of ceviche. In Mexico, it is served with tostadas. In Puerto Rico and other places in the Caribbean, the dish is prepared with coconut milk.

[@monkeybusinessasusuall5467]

I had this good ceviche that was made out of snook in Puerto Rico. Does not even hold up to other ceviche’s

[@hobog]

I bet it's popular for Americans to rent housing in Tijuana and commute into San Diego

[@sebiche609]

@@hobog Local here, it is! A lot of high commodity apartment buildings have been/are being built which appease more to Americans, though it's still more common to see Mexicans who'd rather have a house on this side and work on the other to save up in housing costs

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

Starbucks can also be crazy with placement, when I worked in North York, Toronto, my office building had a Starbucks in the basement next to the subway entrance and a different unconnected Starbucks on ground level facing the street! In the same building!

[@hobog]

Starbucks is also saturated in Taipei

[@pacificostudios]

Ensenada's beaches are amazing, I had no idea. That taco you ate is like nothing I've seen in San Diego, but we have most of the good stuff here. I only went to Baja once, and mostly to learn if there was anything there I wanted that I couldn't get in San Diego. I've decided that one trip was enough. San Diego is fantastic for food; I love visiting there from my home in Oceanside, an hour away by train.

[@sammymarrco2]

how did you meet the Mexican friends you were with?

[@ClassyWhale]

@@sammymarrco2 college! They were part of the same friend group as me and my wife

[@bbartky]

Thank you for doing this! 🙏 I’m a subscriber to the Tiger RailFan channel, which covers public transit in LA, Orange, and San Diego counties. I had asked about transit in Baja California and they let me know that the San Ysidro Blue Line station is an easy walk to Tijuana, even for an old guy like me. 😀 However, they didn’t know what the public transit options in Mexico are. So, your video was very helpful.

[@patrickmartin3322]

Good job KZbin for giving me the premier notification right after the premier ended

[@TomMarvan]

Woohoo, go, San Diego! Great video, thank you.

[@Canleaf08]

2:12 sigh... People can be stressful. I wish that people would leave people with respirators alone. 2:31 Not only the oldest system. The Duewag U2 from Frankfurt from the 70s was in use there, which are now sold to Mendoza. The Vgf had the U2 for a long time. Nowadays, they are sadly gone. Calgary and Edmonton use the same system. Calgary's train was on a phone card in Germany.

[@ChampionIslandSpeedruning]

3:36 note you can talk the first trolley on select hollidays on the san diego silver line, or a first gen trolley at the perris train museum

[@supakat1835]

I used to go to ensenada ob my motorcycle, & take the bus, until I moved out of San Diego, & I do it when I can. The only issue now is Mexico CBP make you fill out a visa, & is slow getting across on the weekend, & getting back, it took 4 hours standing in line. Yes 4 hours, nit exaggerating. Never going there & back on a Sunday again!

[@linuxsisschannel8602]

I still dont understand how Tijuana doesn't have light rail or metro.. Its supposed to be the 4th most important city after Mexico city, Monterrey, Guadalajara. The state doesn't even do a project or studies, and the federal government doesn't even care to propose 💀

[@linuxsisschannel8602]

The worst thing is that Tijuana has a lot of car center projects.

[@nocktuz]

Queretaro City its most important, Tijuana isnt important at all being the 6th in Mexico

[@hobog]

There is BRT infrastructure and stations but idk if they actually got the network running 😢

[@Square-ow7oq]

Lmao, Tijuana is not the 4th most important city. Who told you that?

[@rodrigoe.gordillo2617]

People over there like driving

[@jacktattersall9457]

Buffalo's Metrorail Light Rail should seriously be extended to the Canadian Border/Niagara River with stops at the Rainbow Bridge Customs Plaza and the Niagara Falls NY Amtrak Station (please add a pedestrian walkway to Whirlpool Bridge, it's pretty useless as a NEXUS passenger car and train only bridge). Actually, the two lane Whirlpool road bridge would be great converted to pedestrians/cyclists, being just a block away from Niagara Falls GO/VIA station which has hourly GO buses and at least three return GO trains to Burlington/Toronto. Rainbow Bridge is a bit more inconvenient to get to for pedestrians because it's not closely served by the local public transport agency Niagara Region Transit but by WEGO, which is a pass-only tourist-oriented shuttle service.

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

Caleb learned the hard way that WEGO only accepts passes (because * Caleb didn't do his research *)

[@davidperry3257]

You are refreshingly honest and real regarding your experiences and especially your mistakes which you are quick to own. You earned a like from this viewer!

[@ClassyWhale]

@@davidperry3257 thanks!

[@Cupertinorail]

The San Diego trolley is a good transit system, it's a springboard for other tram systems in the US. I took the blue line a few times and it seems to be a big hit among international workers in Mexico and they speak perfect English. The 906/907 bus is a cool bus that is driven by both US and Mexican citizens. Went across the free peace bridge and I must say the bus terminal is rather strange. Has these weird school bus like vehicles. The copper line is one of the last remaining tram shuttles in the US. I live in San Jose and there used to be this shuttle tram that served 3 stations into an affluent part of town called Almaden.

[@history_leisure]

Guess you could say the same thing about Dunkin's in Boston, or Wawa's on the main line

[@SPOTTINGWEEKLY]

Why didn’t Seattle have something with Vancouver or Detroit?

[@andyjay729]

Seattle's actually kinda far from the Canadian border (about 160 miles). They do have Amtrak service to Vancouver.

[@GirtonOramsay]

You can take a ferry to Vancouver or Victoria lol

[@Austin_Niepołomice]

That return trip from Mexico was an insane circle back lol. Love seeing more on Mexico transit etc. not much there but the San Diego to Tijuana area is fantastic affordable.

[@kennethschlegel870]

when i was in the Navy and stationed at 32nd street naval base the Blue line was a staple for me. i just wish they would open the pedestrian gate next to the trolley stop for base access to dry side, it was a long and circuitous route to leave the base through the vehicle gate to get to the stop.

[@Kevbot6000]

9:57 lol funny coincidence but corona means crown in Spanish :)

[@ac3115]

Even if you can’t cross the border at Tijuana Airport, there is a regular pedestrian border crossing at Otay Mesa, which on the US side there are MTS buses

[@ClassyWhale]

Caleb didn't do his research

[@GirtonOramsay]

​@@ClassyWhalewe actually 2 BRT routes from Otay Mesa now, one to downtown SD and a new one to Imperial Beach

[@IrvineCenterDriver]

I keep hearing how nice it is to be able to cross border and get all the medicine and food, but I'm deathly scared of the robbery

[@GirtonOramsay]

Lol well you're in luck! There are multiple border crossings into less popular Mexican cities or less busy TJ crossing. We have BRT routes 227 or 225 to Otay Mesa TJ crossing or a rural weekday bus route to the Tecate (yes the home of popular Tecate beer) crossing. Or just take the Flixbus to Calexico border area and cross into Mexicali.

[@295g295]

7:55 - Ensalada in Ensenada

[@-i1007]

is a San Diegan this is hilarious because our section of the surf liner goes over cliffs

[@ClassyWhale]

Nothing that extreme tho!

[@-i1007]

@ chico if you think that’s extreme you need to go further south

[@GirtonOramsay]

​@@ClassyWhalenah the northernmost section past Santa Barbara has amazing cliffside views too, especially with a sunset

[@IamTheHolypumpkin]

Seeing the first footage you shot while I guided you in Frankfurt :)

[@erickemiliogazconarevalo3989]

9:43 if you took the other highway you could had seen the "oxxo over oxxo" wich it is not a two story oxxo, if else two completely independent oxxos built one just on top of the other, each one faces a different direction to sell to people from each side of the street

[@ClassyWhale]

This is the most Mexican thing

[@citiestransportdetroit]

btw there is a international bus going from detroit MI to winsor ON

[@9965paul]

You can ride the old trolleys during holidays they go around downtown

[@Cupertinorail]

Love the ending of the video *does a grito*

[@MidnightAspec]

Great review! FYI: As a daily NJT/PATH rider, most people dont care if anyone else wears a mask; it's only an issue if mask wearers try to guilt non-mask wearers into wearing masks (likely equally uncommon).

[@peabody1976]

7:12 If Past Caleb had known what Future Caleb would (happily) experience, he would have rephrased. Ah, well. Just glad Past Caleb had a super (!) time in Tijuana and Ensenada!

[@magesnz]

looks like you had a nice trip, hopefully you can bring your wife to mexico soon to meet your friends

[@ClassyWhale]

She's met them both! We all know each other through school.

[@magesnz]

@@ClassyWhale you planning to come down under to try the Sydney metro and the future Auckland city rail link

[@PiplupJames]

And my first visit to California was in 2022. All i did in San Diego was ride the trolley and took the bus to SeaWorld 🐧

[@protector22222]

can you ask your friends something for me. I have dated people who are Mexican and had a lot of the foods you had with your friend that he was describing. When I go to an american Mexican restaurant and get those same things. They all literally taste the same. No matter where I go. What do the restaurants here do differently that takes the unique flavor away?

[@NickBurman]

Another very nice Mexican bus route is Puebla to Oaxaca, more specifically the section south of Tehuacan... Some fantastic canyons, as if the landscape had been created for a Hollywood cowboy film. I was totally unprepared for it and couldn't stop humming Enio Morricone film soundtracks as we progressed along the road.

[@andyjay729]

Wasn't "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" actually shot in Mexico's Copper Canyon area?

[@richardavsmith]

Think they often have technical issues; I bought an ABC ticket online and it just never got emailed to me.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

Tijuana has BRT also

[@hobog]

Did this actually get running? I remember seeing the stations and bus lanes in 2018 and they were shuttered then

[@GirtonOramsay]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't operate anymore.

[@rodrigoe.gordillo2617]

They have nothing of value

[@The-rp6do]

We got Classy Whale exploring public transit in Mexico before GTA 6…..

[@Roxyfoxy157]

Nice!!!

[@ClassyWhale]

@@Roxyfoxy157 thanks again for the tour!

[@peterelvery]

I was about to ask how the San Diego Red Line got it's "Trolley" name... then I saw the original stock did have trolley poles😎

[@ClassyWhale]

Those were added later for the museum's infrastructure

[@peterelvery]

​@@ClassyWhaleOh! So my question regains relevance. I guess it's too late to go for "Border Pantos" instead😂

[@MarioFanGamer659]

Considering that the trains were the same used on Edmonton and Frankfurt (it's no coincidence Caleb used these of the "first" systems) and those used pantographs from the start, I assume it's mostly because tramcars (which the U2 cars were, technically speaking) tend to be regionally called "trolley(car)s" in the US (others call them "streetcars") and Trolley is essentially a more modern and interurban take thereof, this might contribute to it. But don't quote me on this.

[@MassbyTrain]

white guy here ceviche normally is fished cooked in acid not beef

[@transitengineer]

Sorry, I only go to Mexico when traveling on a cruse ship. Living in Los Angeles for the past 40-years, I can get all the Spanish style food anytime (smile ... smile).

[@rodrigoe.gordillo2617]

Spain and Mexico are two different countries with very different food

[@transitengineer]

@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617 Yes, you are 100 correct. I meant food dishes eating by persons from Mexico, Central American, and South American. Because, when you live in Los Angeles it is like living in a small United Nations (smile ... smile).

[@rodrigoe.gordillo2617]

@transitengineer I mean I'm not spanish, never will be and never been there so I find it interesting how "latino" people call themselves spanish or how spanish speaking is lumped in one "spanish" group it's so weird I will be like calling Americans and Australians "English"

[@HeatherLandon227]

I wish the US would adopt that Excess Calories etc labels for our junk food, but nope....

[@arimermelstein9167]

Did you record this before you met your wife or just before you met her extended family?

[@ClassyWhale]

@@arimermelstein9167 she was a friend at the time

[@R262SubwayCar1]

12:23 Caleb Didn't Do His Research

[@amadeosendiulo2137]

Maybe there will be times when light rail will be able to cross the border.

[@Ghfvhvfg]

cartel mexico i dont know if it will ever happen

[@danielgrogers]

El Paso used to have one that did

[@Ghfvhvfg]

Cross boder rail why not ?Rolling imigration may be necary

[@RealCrimsonPeach_TSFTWDTFTL]

That video is amazing! I definitely hope to visit Mexico one day, especially since I love Mexican food!

[@dimanimatedtakes]

Slight confusion -- so.... there's no way for you to just swoop in through the border? They'll drive you to the border lines and you'll have to go through them? I havent slept well these past two days so extra explaining is needed lol sorry. Also, agreed on the 'respect people who still mask up' thing. Theres a reason flight attendants and/or captains on planes say that in their announcements when talking about face coverings. (I wonder if Amtrak conductors are doing the same?) Mostly probably due to unruly passenger things happening when it was still federally enforced, but still. Also, not gonna lie. Kinda missed the ✨Caleb Didnt Do His Research✨ bit Also also, kinda wanna do this myself, but as a mostly solo traveler (male, but IDK if that matters in Tijuana because some parts of Mexico are very rough right now unfortunately) I don't know how safe it is tbh. And I don't really have close friends that are available and could help me.

[@Square-ow7oq]

What parts exactly are you talking about?

[@dimanimatedtakes]

@@Square-ow7oq everywhere that they say to avoid these days in some recent articles, where there's a lot of gang violence and other crime going on in general territories that are marked as "unsafe". I did a Mexico tour back in 2008, and I remember a lot of the places me and my group went to were deemed safe and good travel destinations, but now many years later, they're not as good areas to visit anymore. The bad thing about these articles though is they do not tell you where IS safe, they just say "these areas that used to be safe are no longer safe."

[@Square-ow7oq]

@dimanimatedtakes so you don't even know what places, you are just saying whatever this "articles " say. It was in The New york Times, The Guardian, Le Monde, El Pais? Or are you just reading facebook "articles " ? And watching newsmax?

[@dimanimatedtakes]

​@@Square-ow7oq ​ No need to be condescending. Just because I didn't name places doesn't mean I don't know what places. Of course I do know there's a whole "don't believe everything you read" thing, which I think is the argument you're trying to make, so I guess fair enough. But for the record I've seen posts where they say that areas like Acapulco are now dangerous (which is surprising because when I saw it 16 years ago it was safe, beautiful, and amazing). Also some people have concerns about Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez, among others. A friend once told me Monterrey was dangerous too, but that was eons ago and IDK if that's true now. Maybe I also didn't do my research. For the most part, I'd want to see Cancun and Cozumel because I havent yet, but for the record on my tour I did see Mexico City, Oaxaca, Puebla, and Acapulco. Plus another one that I forgot the name of. I really wish I could remember it. If I ever went back, I would honestly probably want to recreate that tour and then add a few extra stops that most people skip. As long as they're safe for tourists.

[@jimoconnor6382]

A cab taking you to Independence Street🤦‍♂️

[@yoitsniam]

Why can’t you just take rail into Tijuana and Ensenada? I think they should work with San Diego MTS so that we don’t have to transfer onto a bus. Trains are so much nicer, they’re like on-ground planes haha.

[@ClassyWhale]

@@yoitsniam they're working on it!

[@darioprime]

Please do not pronounce San Luis Obispo with accents, as he did here, unless you are fine sounding like a tourist, in which case, carry on. The locals however, just say San Luis(like Louis) or SLO.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Same with San Ysidro It's not yis-see-dro It's see-dro

[@texasstylebasketball]

Technically he’s pronouncing it correctly, close to the Spanish pronunciation

[@markberg6197]

The business model of oxxo is the same as Tim hortons

[@corzopulidooscaremilio6033]

Tijuana isnt the second largest city, its like te 7th

[@ClassyWhale]

Wikipedia says otherwise

[@youtubesewersocialist]

Counting the city itself, not its metro area, Tijuana is second

[@ncgallagher]

they are saying 240 Grill is permanently closed in 2024. Que Triste

[@ClassyWhale]

@@ncgallagher noooo!

[@helen5472]

Best to stay out of TJ and Baja unless you live there.

[@ClassyWhale]

@@helen5472 or unless you know people

[@celebrityrog]

Keep it simple. Whats SOUTH of the San Diego San Ysidro Trolley? A McDonalds, and a long pathway that looks like a prison path to a concrete barrier that says MEXICO on it, with some turnstiles. THATS WHAT SOUTH OF THE FUCKING TROLLEY

[@ClassyWhale]

Wow had no idea

[@vinceghio]

I live in San Diego

[@CarlosVazquez-p4c]

AARRIBAAAH!!!!

[@ejspad]

I would never go across the border to Mexico

[@sqoomsh]

answer: mexico

[@santinomamone2674]

Noel Phillips =)

[@chrispontani6059]

OXXO’s business model is monopolistic.

[@randomtransitadventures]

_8k views in 1 hour_

[@Matthew-p2h]

'teehuana'

[@rodrigoe.gordillo2617]

There's nothing in Tijuana

[@ClassyWhale]

@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617 there's cheap insulin

[@alittlebitgone]

I mean.... Canada exists, and trains actually cross the border.

[@ClassyWhale]

That's Amtrak, not rapid rail transit

[@ThePathbauer]

Tijuana is not the second blargest city in México by far. Monterrey, Guadalajara and Puebla are larger.

[@detroitpeoplemover]

By population, it is. In the 2020 census: Mexico City had a population of 9,209,944. Tijuana had 1,810,645 Ecatepec had 1,643,623 Those are the top three. Puebla was fifth with 1,542,232. Guadalajara was 8th with 1,385,621. Monterrey was 9th with 1,142,952

[@subatenome]

@@detroitpeoplemover Yes, but that is still missing the point. By metro area, Tijuana is only the 6th largest city in Mexico. Mexico City, for example, is almost quite literally sliced in half because of it's weird political borders that do not reflect the true nature of the city and its sprawl. You can see that with Ecatepec, a "city" that is nominally known by the locals there as just being part of Mexico City proper. Thus, saying that Tijuana is Mexico's 2nd largest city is incredibly misleading, even if technically true.

[@detroitpeoplemover]

@@subatenome We shouldn't be counting suburbs. Suburbs are not cities unless they are big enough to be considered a city like Ecatepec in the State of Mexico If suburbanites want to be considered part of a city, they should move to said city

[@ThePathbauer]

@@detroitpeoplemover San Pedro Garza García, Cholula or Zapopan are not suburbia, they are part of the cities Urban fabric. Mexican cities do not sprawl like US cities. It's like saying that Brooklyn is not part of New York City.

[@subatenome]

@@detroitpeoplemover So, let's ignore what the people of said region think about their own city and its place in a larger urban area and instead go with the old and dated arbitrary political lines that somehow count more as a city rather than the city itself. People in Ecatepec consider themselves a part of Mexico City because that's how they see themselves. No amount of technicalities will change that or make them "move to Mexico City". Political divisions often don't make sense for a number of reasons. For example, Mexico City has grown and swallowed many neighboring towns that are now just considered part of the city. Other times Mexico City's growth has spilled over political boundaries and so government officials have to "create new cities" out of that spillover. And of course, governments can be very slow, reluctant or inefficient at updating city boundaries. This is especially true for a country like Mexico where urban planning and urban development is often very unregulated, messy and unplanned. Meaning that the growth of cities here is very organic but also very poorly done and often don't respect these political boundaries.

[@luislaplume8261]

You may like that beach in Mexico but for me, give me good old Coney Island Beach in Brooklyn, New York City!