What’s Taken Tears of the Kingdom So Long?

[@broski7792]

I'm hoping that it was in Development Heaven, rather than Development Hell. Hopefully they delayed it because they were enjoying making the game so much that they didn't want to stop

[@Nosidda]

This is why I'm personally not worried. A lot of people who are concerned should watch the series Nintendo released about the games development. It's very clear that the developers enjoyed making BotW, and the passion and joy they expressed on stage when accepting their GOTY award shows how excited they are about Zelda's future. There's clearly a ton of love going into this game. Perhaps the reason it's taking 6 years is because the game just needed that development time, because there's just that much more going into the game. Hell, the entire reason we're getting a sequel at all is because the developers imaginations were so wild for making DLC, that a sequel just made sense. Nintendo almost never makes direct sequels, but most of the time when they do make a direct sequel, it's because the developers weren't done with it yet. They still had ideas that they wanted to express. That's how we got Mario Galaxy 2, and I think that's what's happening here with TotK. Zelda has never disappointed in it's major releases. The closest we ever got to that was Skyward Sword, and even then it's quality of lack of quality is often debated. A disappointment for some, but not everyone. But even then, every other major Zelda release is regarded by a ton of people as legendary. A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, all legends. I see no reason to be worried, especially since the devs seem so passionate about this game and are getting all the time they need to get it right.

[@Nosidda]

@Game Design Andy Just because they're a corporate entity doesn't mean there's absolutely no good things happening there. Nintendo of Japan has proven on multiple occasions that they are far better about good development conditions than most other companies. The devs clearly love what they're working on, you can see it in the interviews that they adore working on these games. Nintendo themselves delayed the release of Animal Crossing New Horizons in order to ensure the devs didn't need to crunch. They just raised the salaries of their Japanese devs by 10%. The executives have cut their own salaries multiple times when times were bad to avoid layoffs. Yes, Nintendo has MANY problems, but it's still worth appreciating the good things about them while criticizing the bad. Yes, the game took 6 years to make. So what? Welcome to the world of game development, take it from someone who has a degree in game design. Games take ages to make, even when you recycle assets. Assets, by the way, that were likely commissioned to outside sources during the original games development as it still took 6 years to make, and now asset flipping likely just means fewer outsourcing rather than faster development. This is especially true if the game is still ambitious. Every developer will tell you that TotK taking 6 years is NOT abnormal, it is normal. Video games are extremely complex, and unless you want the game to release unfinished and buggy, have patience. Zelda games have never released as unfinished and buggy messes akin to Cyberpunk, so why the hell are people so damn worried just because development is taking a bit longer? If anything, asset flipping just means they've been allowed to get more ambitious than last time, hence why it's taking so long. There is zero reason to believe at this time that the long development is due to the game being in development hell aside from people thinking it's taking too long, so that must mean it's in development hell. The team behind this game have managed to release legendary games that were made on extremely tight and stressful crunch, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess come to mind. So why be worried about them taking their time?

[@stevejeffrey11]

Yes, they had too many new ideas that would not all fit in a DLC so they decided to make a sequel

[@suckernmahdurg8131]

@@Nosidda If you can give me faith in the game’s development maybe i can find similar faith in myself 😭👍

[@dRac_XII]

@@Nosidda cope

[@jhollo]

A lot of people forget that BOTW was delayed three years and the team couldn't stop thinking of new ideas. Go back and watch the gameplay from 8 years ago and you'll find different Sheikah Towers that don't glow, a magic meter, slightly different shaders, and more of a focus on the Wii U gamepad. So much changed even though it was meant to release a year after the gameplay reveal. They could've just spent that time polishing the gameplay, but instead began overhauling the world and it's mechanics. It's not out of the question that the Zelda Team did the same thing to TOTK. The sky islands might not have been thought of when the first teaser dropped in 2019, leading to more development time.

[@jayevans6146]

It was only really delayed 1 year, and two is stretching it. It’s initial release was 2015. Then 16, then the start of 17

[@moemuxhagi]

BOTW WAS ANNOUNCED 8 YEARS AGO ???

[@nunooliveira1628]

1. Covid 2. Launch window without competitors 3. Positioning to extend Switch lifetime 4. Getting a glitchless game with DLC already prepared

[@corbelan4]

I’m going straight to Korok forest to see if frames drop 😂

[@20000dino]

I heavily doubt number 3 is true. The Switch is already six years old, and it shows. NO ONE wants it for 3-4 more years.

[@dizdawgjr34]

And the fuse mechanic (a system that allows you to fuse literally any tool and item in the game together and it still having a use alongside it working properly was probably one of the longest and most challenging parts of development for this game.

[@dizdawgjr34]

@Game Design Andy Now that we know about the fuse mechanic as well that explains part of it, that system is absolutely ridiculous in how difficult it would be to develop.

[@ValuedValue]

im finally truly the first person lmao "No views" finally i've accomplished my life. I'm sobbing. I am actually crying. I love you

[@meepmadness9270]

you beat me to it that was nearly me

[@CockLord2059]

Nice

[@alcides2494]

3,903rd view

[@qwop1853]

@@alcides2494 11k☠️☠️

[@kyhag130]

Bro doing tricks on it

[@Tass...]

Regarding the interview with IGN where they said the game name would reveal too much i think they changed the name of the game some point after that. Tears of the kingdom in no way gives anything away. It's very possible that they changed it because the original name was too spoilery. If that is the case i expect we will find out at some point after the game releases.

[@EndoYoutube]

Yeah that definitely could have happened

[@7milesdavis]

I’ve been asking myself this question for four years.

[@ElliotKeaton]

Maybe it's a pun on _'Tiers of the Kingdom'_ and it references the sky, the land and the underground?

[@alcides2494]

What I’ve hear some people say and I agree is it’s not the title but the logo that hints to the plot, the logo shows an ouroboros (snake eating its own tail showing a cycle without end). What’s more interesting is that it’s 2 snakes instead of one showing to beings bound to an unending cycle

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@ElliotKeaton Then, why don’t they name it after that? I think ‘tear’ have it’s meaning and the pun is just added on top

[@MilkPridd]

I thought at the time that maybe the delay had something to do with Elden Ring. They saw just how far the game developers had taken their Breath of the Wild concepts and how many gamers responded favourably to the difficulty, in-depth combat systems and enemy/boss variety and realised that what they had, as fantastic as it most probably was, could be, and probably needed to be refined and elevated even further if they wanted ToTK to make as many shock waves as BoTW did, now that they had a direct competitor. If this was the case the delay could only be a good thing.

[@7F0X7]

Even if they pushed the release to 2023 as to not compete with Elden Ring, it makes absolutely not sense to push it all the way to May. BOTW came out in March '17, so it would make sense for TOTK to drop in the first quarter of 2023. The fact that they needed the entire first quarter + 2 more entire months is a bad omen IMO. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this game.

[@MilkPridd]

@@7F0X7 I'm not worried because in my view the difference here is between perceiving their team "needing" until May 2023 vs allowing themselves the opportunity of an additional year of interesting development and content. I don't think it would have been because they didn't want to compete with ER but that ER raised the stakes beyond what they had anticipated. Elden Ring changed the game and did what all open world games that took inspiration from BoTW couldn't up until that point. If i'm correct the Zelda team, having built up enough trust and goodwill through their efforts with BoTW were probably allowed additional time to capitalise on, and cannibalise from the success of Elden Ring. They did say when it was delayed "to make the experience something truly special" they were taking some more time. They've got a first rate track record overall. So there isn't much reason to doubt them. If they were desperately scrambling to cobble together something out of a project that just wasn't working for them they wouldn't have given a solid date for May. This is coming from somebody that was highly sceptical until the last trailer. I feel all the people worried are only filled with despair because of how much BoTW means to them, not because of any objective evidence of disaster and struggle. Anyway, I hope you're wrong too.

[@GuY-ExE]

​@@MilkPriddand they also say they took inspiration from red dead redemption 2

[@jomner4]

@@GuY-ExE where did they say that

[@daveonezero6258]

doubtful.

[@imagomonkei]

I'm just throwing this out there, but I think the vehicle/weapon crafting had a TON to do with the delay. My guess is we'll be able to build just about anything we can imagine, and all of it will function.

[@Engelinz]

Idk how to feel about this Nuts & Bolts feature…

[@woody5476]

God help us if they turn it into a Labo game! Lol

[@ThatOneGuyYouSawAMonthAgo9576]

​@@Engelinz The thing is that it doesn't work for Banjo and Kazooie but it's perfect for ToTK. The bike was amazing, as long as they don't make it stupid then honestly this is both a great way to traverse and also makes sense in the world.

[@YesPlatinum]

I think all the new features made it way too demanding on the Switch, and they've been working on optimization so it doesn't lag like all hell. That would make sense since it's on a rather unpowerful console compared to the competitors.

[@DieterPrivate]

I hope not, don't want to see a Nuts and Bolts focussed game...

[@elsahyrule6711]

Perhaps in 2019 when they announced the game they had planned an earlier release, however when Covid happened it slowed development right down for possibly two years. I think that is the reason for the longer delay.

[@dr_ubo]

It's common sense, but apparently common sense is not common and gamers are absolutely disjointed from reality.

[@edgardomarineros7951]

Thank you! People seem to forget that everything changed when covid appeared.

[@-im-aim]

exactly

[@buibuiopolismayor7329]

Yep, I think that’s the logical reason. Covid happened, they decided to take it easy and maybe go back to the drawing board and see what else they can do since they have all this time. maybe they then realized they could do more and just went with it and delayed it more.

[@woody5476]

In this video, he pointed out that the 2022 release date was given after Covid had already started easing up, and the workforce was starting to get back to normal.

[@mr.cheesytoad5845]

Welp, this certainly aged interestingly lol

[@NerdEmoji1067]

Now that I’m actually playing the game I can definitely see why it took so long to make the game.

[@profutzer]

seems like a follow up video is needed now that we know about the fuse and ultrahand mechanics..which would obviously add endless development hours ...

[@HyruleGamer]

"What’s Taken Tears of the Kingdom So Long?" - Developing the PERFECT mechanic for petting dogs & cats in TOTK!

[@HecmarJayam]

This is a must. With motion controls and all.

[@Dairunt1]

And let the dog chase a stick!

[@Camlegofan]

“A good is eventually game, a rushed is forever _game_ “ - Shigeru Mario

[@floydneesen8628]

what

[@mewa3263]

​@@floydneesen8628I cooka da pizza

[@PaulyEditz]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." - Shigeru Miyamoto

[@corrinflakes9659]

Gary Mario

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

@@mewa3263 I eata da pizza.

[@NotoriousROZ]

... False premise: It hasn't taken a long time. It's taken a pretty average time for AAA studio development. The same amount of time Breath of the Wild had, in fact. Skyward Sword came out in 2011, Breath of the Wild 2017, Tears of the Kingdom 2023. And that's only one more year than what was between Twilight Princess (2006). Games take a really long time to develop, especially games as big as these two. You shouldn't want them to rush their process. I'd rather have a finished game than get it faster.

[@colegarcia7574]

As long as the quality matches up to the time it took to make, I'm happy to let them work on it as long as they like

[@yourpaljake6024]

Honestly, when I saw 2022 I was like, alright its gonna be released in Spring 2023. And damn I was spot on with that

[@danielmarbella1197]

A piece of art needs its time. And this studio is still one of the few that still has the purpose of designing pieces of art that endure time.

[@itz-electro]

*cough* wii-u... *cough*

[@sanscalvo6927]

@@itz-electro It has nothing to do with it, it was just a console... The quality of it’s games never suffered and that's why most of them ended up coming to Nintendo Switch

[@redumbrella795]

Majora's Mask took less than two years.

[@calmv_]

@@redumbrella795 yeah and the game is pretty short

[@aquaabouttogetfunky]

@@redumbrella795 And? If the devs of TOTK need more time to make the game the best of their abilities (especially post Covid) then we shouldn’t complain.

[@nikkothegoblin]

I'm like, some percentage sure I remember self criticism from Nintendo that BotW was basically shown entirely upfront, which they didn't want to do it again for fear of spoiling too much. From what I can tell about the game I get it, it's probably going to be way more dense and story rich in comparison. However, yeah we really haven't gotten too much of a strong hook outside of wanting to play the sequel to a game I love with all kinds of content additions and mechanics improvement

[@gibbleway]

good because BotW l;ooked silly from the outset despite open world mechanics

[@caleb_widogast_fan]

Gamer when a game takes more than two years of development: OMG DEVELOPMENT HELL???? WHY TF IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED EARLIER????

[@NuiYabuko]

Exactly. 3-5 is normal these days and potentially 6 isn't even that out of the norm.

[@RGC_animation]

As Shigeru Myamoto famously said, "A rushed game is forever bad, but a delayed game is eventually good."

[@juanaugustolopez8747]

I think the delay actually gives more hype for the game. It means they aren't reusing as much from the previous game, probably only the engine and some parts of the map and assets. If was realeased 2-3 years after Breath of the Wild, it would probably be more like Majora's Mask, were there was a LOT of reused assets from Ocarina of Time.

[@ct2586]

From the trailer lots of the locations are directly from BotW. Hopefully it won't just be the same game with sky islands put in. I'm sure it will be great either way though!!

[@tumultuousv]

@@ct2586 obviously... it is the same map. But they've obviously added things to the areas. Drastically.

[@heffe4257]

It definitely looks like the same exact game. It looks like a dlc. Hopefully I’m wrong, that’s just what it looks like.

[@mimoe7587]

@@heffe4257 I'm happy, and i'm sure you are, that you were wrong. Before the game came out they said TOTK looks like BOTW DLC. After the game came out people are saying BOTW looks like a beta version of TOTK in comparison.

[@_RK_800_]

4:57 It’s not the name that’s the spoiler, it’s the logo. The Ouroboros (a snake eating it’s own tail) is the logo for Tears of the Kingdom, which is the symbol for infinite birth and death. Demise cursed the Zelda universe into a loop, which ultimately means that this is after Breath of the Wild, yet before Skyward Sword

[@7F0X7]

I wouldn't mind that plot device *IIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFF* they carefully explained how the three separate time lines reconverged into one in the first place. I'm sick of the ambiguous crap, I just want a well thought out story masterfully told.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

Great imagination. What if the three timeline are things happening once but split to different path and reconverge into one. One timeline happen first but the hyrule split to different timeline once the timeline looped

[@xero1022]

Skyward Sword being the first story on the chronology is official, Nintendo released an official order of the games, so anything that happens on TOTK is a really long time after Skyward Sword.

[@_RK_800_]

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 that would make perfect sense

[@_RK_800_]

@@7F0X7 I’ve got another theory (although I remember it from Game Theory) What if Hyrule Warriors was canon? I mean, it makes perfect sense. Hyrule Warriors is all about every version of Link and other characters coming together, but it has a plot and it makes sense

[@dirt_mcgirk]

I think the hardware struggles play a role in the development

[@wilhelm4789]

I do wonder if TotK will have a cycle of days like Majoras mask, since we’ve seen the three mazes from BotW both on the ground and floating in different clips, which could be time dependent. The logo of the game is the Oroboros as well with the snake eating it’s own tail reflecting a never ending cycle. Perhaps Link and Zelda lose to Ganon initially and Link gets sent back in time over and over again to try and beat him 🤷‍♂️

[@Brand-pn5yz]

Yeah since majoras mask was a successor to ocarina of time. Its basically a sequel to ocarina of time by the way where navi the fairy took off and link went to look for her. They had some ideals for the new game after oot. But things went a totally different direction! And fans asked questions about what happened to navi and why she leave? It was never answered. She was nowhere to be found.

[@johnxina7496]

No

[@mide8845]

I'd rather like to think it's the first and last game in the series, so all that happened before Skyward Sword with malice or whatever and the floating islands

[@RobinsMusic]

@@Brand-pn5yz cause she was annoying as hell

[@yannguerin3164]

I dont know what any of you are talking about. Every Main line Zelda game this century has always taken 4-6 years to make. Wind Waker 2002 Twilight Princess 2006 Skyward Sword 2011 Breath of the Wild 2017 Tears of the Kingdom 2023 That's why we get masterpieces everytime.

[@tripledeath5874]

Honestly im still playing breath of the wild with 3000 hours in, with how great of a game that botw is im fine waiting even 2 more years for this game. And knowing nintendo they judt want to make the game even better

[@nitzke1336]

I think high expectations of a sequel to that (almost) masterpiece can never be met. But when not expecting too much expectations will always be met. I am sure this game will be great but as a sequel to such a great game I have low expectations. I'm interested in seeing how they drop this bomb tho.

[@arminius504]

Agreed

[@nicolasgorszczyk9291]

Half life 2 tho

[@sutarn7246]

Portal 2 tho

[@nicolasgorszczyk9291]

Left for dead 2 tho

[@nicolasgorszczyk9291]

Last of us part 2 tho (controversial tho)

[@Neyan42]

my main theory is that they are expanding the size of the map, either by literally zooming in and making everything bigger, or by letting us go to north and west hyrule

[@mimoe7587]

Your theories of how was wrong, but overall point was right! They arguably tripled the map with the Sky and Underworld.

[@FTChomp9980]

Tears of the Kingdom probably took a while to develop because those DLC ideas for Tears of the Kingdom not to mention add more content then the original.

[@Andrewforjesus]

GREAT Quality Video.

[@EndoYoutube]

Thanks!

[@Ardi_0]

I haven't watched the video yet, but from the title alone: It haven't taken long. 3D zelda games takes about 5/6 years between each. If we start from WW. WW - 2002 TP - 2006 SS - 2011 BotW - 2017 TotK - 2023 Also they've released a remake and A Link Between Worlds came out in 2013.

[@jace15076]

The announcement to delay came just one month after Elden Ring was released. I'm hoping they played that game and said, "we need more enemies and bosses."

[@RizzyGyatt]

you know that isn't at all what happened lol

[@oppa1319]

Sadly Zelda will ALWAYS have a low amount of enemies and even bosses as it’s not seen as a core component of the series like a souls game is.

[@Airlo-rk8wj]

Elden ring came in wayyy too late in development for them to care really. The delay was likely for bug fixing, play testing, polishing, and getting ready for distribution. (Designing collectors edition and such, as well as printing out all the game cards and such.)

[@tumultuousv]

@@RizzyGyatt obviously not the sole reason. I doubt theybdelayed because of elden ring. BUT they definitely did play the game and might of added some elements to totk

[@RizzyGyatt]

@@tumultuousv i doubt it but we'll see.

[@ezral.l4173]

the fact that it got delayed when we have a fully built engine give me hope that this game will defeintly have amazing new fetures

[@bitz3225]

Yeah, Nintendo aren’t dumb. If they have an engine built and they delayed it, it’s because this game has some huge new features and updates/mechanics to separate it from its predecessor.

[@BossXAOC]

you shoudlnt forget that breath of the wild was announced to be released 2015 and released 2017 for a new console too. Especially with zelda they just want to assure to deliver the best possible experience. There shouldnt be any worries

[@tanzolo4487]

I think it’s going to deliver. Only thing I’m concerned about is file size. I loved the fact botw entirely is on the cartridge.

[@tumultuousv]

@@jordankelly4684 examples of different sizes of games on other platforms and switch?

[@Zucker1210]

it's only 18.2gb so its only 4 more than botw which is good

[@do0nv]

@@Zucker1210 Source: Dude trust me

[@Zucker1210]

@@do0nv ??

[@luisoncpp]

Don't worry about that, there are cartridges with more than enough size. Many companies decided to cut down costs by using smaller cartridges than the needed but Nintendo is not like that. They always charge full price, so they don't need to cut manufacturing costs.

[@thatsmattbaby]

i don’t want to have knowledge of the game prior to release. i don’t want anything major unveiled. this is nintendo’s first 70$ release, the game is going to deliver fine and dandy. chill

[@loneranger4282]

Since it took FAR longer than any other Zelda game, and is a sequel, I have really high expectations of the game.

[@nick277]

Title is a play on the word Tear. Tears as in crying and tears as in torn.

[@Muzangetsu]

Outside of the obvious (crafting, new mechanics, story etc), i think it comes down to them wanting to actually use the power of the Switch since BotW was limited by it being a Wii U port. From what i remember they didn't even decide on making a Switch version till very late in development. Looking at the trailers in comparison to BotW it's pretty clear it looks better. Draw distance is way better along with lighting and such. I think they ended up rebuilding the game to a certain extent so it not only runs better but looks better as well. Of course they have a head start when it comes to the models and the main land mass being laid out. However, if they took the time to tweak the engine and such they would also have to tweak the content they are recycling to go with the upgrades. Personally i feel this is a major reason for the long development time. Sure they had a great starting point but rebuilding that takes a lot of time and can push back other parts of the game they were working on. If this was a new game made to this scale i don't think we would be seeing a release for at least a couple more years. Of course this is all speculation and maybe once the game finally comes out we will get some more insight on what caused the long development cycle. I would also point out that even though the main land mass is being reused they're also changing and adding to that along with making the sky and underground areas. Just my 2 cents. At the end of the day i think they're playing their cards close to their chest since they showed more than they wanted with the BotW trailer. With all that said, i really think we're in for treat when it finally releases.

[@TheMalioman]

1:34 not to mention both Nintendo and Monolith Soft were already hiring for tears of the kingdom right before BOTW launched. so the game's been in development for 6 years at this point

[@austinglander1337]

I’m happy to wait for this game given how great BOTW was. If it can come close to BOTW in depth and charm, it will be a smash success

[@link-mx9op]

I could not be more excited for being forced to fight hundreds of thousands different monsters for another 5 years straight

[@shellderp]

As a dev myself, it's not a surprise at all a game like this takes many years to complete. It's an insane amount of work I'm amazed they can even do it this fast

[@jinushaun]

My theory is that it was delayed because they couldn't figure out how to make it different enough from BOTW, especially at $70

[@OnlyMichaelSparrow]

I got a tears of kingdom ad in middle of this. Coincidence?!

[@narufan987]

I think either the game got caught in development hell (not a clear vision, Covid, too many ideas) or became something much more ambitious (a lot of improvements, substantially more content, innovations on top of an already innovative game), although it's most likely a mix of both lol

[@didgeridooo]

2:06 i wonder if maybe that'll be ganons arm and it connects him and link

[@NatixSaNDawn]

me, a silksong enjoyer :

[@indiesongwriter5474]

I really hope that they have a lot of enemy and combat variety.

[@totallytoffy]

It's only taken 6 years?, that's the average time a triple A games takes... they just announced it super early.

[@Ri_Shin_Marco]

Good for them for delaying it! FFXVI was anticipated for Summer 22 but Yoshi-P said they take their sweet time to polish the game for a whole year even through the game is finished. I rather have them delay it to 2024 than get a game that performes like the recent Pokemon games...

[@k-lawn]

My belief for the delay: 1. COVID 2. Significantly smaller development team

[@MichaelW.1980]

Well with the BotW Trailer pretty much showing 70% of the story and the criticism surrounding it, they clearly didn’t want to make the same mistake again. So I suppose that will be the reason why we didn’t get a story trailer until now.

[@gkgyver]

I'm less concerned about TOTK, and more about the question how long it will take until Nintendo releases the next actually new Zelda game. If the next console is around the corner, all they got is a port of TOTK.

[@luisoncpp]

I think it was due to covid. Nintendo released a lot of great games since late 2020, however most of those games were not made by Nintendo EPD. The Kirby games were made by Hal Laboratories, Paper Mario and Fire Emblem were made by Intelligent Systems, Mario Strikers was made by Next Level Games, Age of Calamity and Fire Emblem Warriors were made by Omega Force, Xenoblade Chronicles was made by Monolith Soft, POkemon Snap was made by Bandai Namco, Metroid Dread was made by Mercury Steam, Mario Party Superstars was made by NDCube. The only Nintendo EPD games that were released since then have been re-releases, Splatoon 3 and smaller games like Switch Sports or Big Brain Academy. Nintendo has been always a very traditionalistic company, my guess is that the work from home switch really disrupted their workflow. I hope that they are _back to normal_ already, but I cannot say it for certain yet.

[@Daily_Cool_Facts]

The title could be so secretive because the blue green circle behind the words is a snake eating itself, signifying I repeating time loop or smth like that

[@iseveneleven2593]

Dawg, a game not telling you everything it has going for it right out the gate is not a sign of bad developement or a bad game. Not every trailer needs to tell you what the entire game is going to be before you play it.

[@JohnDemetriou]

A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad. - Shigeru Miyamoto

[@jeffloud6180]

The new copyrights Nintendo obtained for this game specifically the time manipulation you see in trailers and the new sky combat that hasnt been shown.

[@NickHamilton88]

I will never care how long a game takes to make. I’d rather have them perfect it than rush to ship early.

[@gaigedicus585]

Maybe silent realms are coming back, tears of the kingdom, sacred tears, GUARDIANS, the sky and stuff.

[@PigDaddy2020]

The majority of development time on BOTW was used to create the huge interactive world & the handful of mechanics that support it, primarily the dynamic physics system that drives most of the interaction. That being said, the actual content part of the game was very sparse & barebones, as made apparent by the excessive use of copy/paste shrine design & limited enemies/bosses, among many other things. The fact they are taking so long now gives me hope that TotK will be focusing much of this development cycle on having more diverse content, since the engine & other systems are already in place, & can be adjusted with minimal time & effort. Dungeon crafting has often taken the longest time other than primary engine creation & bugfixing in most other previous titles tho. I expect this title will be no different, as uniquely themed dungeons have commonly been the most requested feature for the sequel to have, tho it is possible that they spent the majority of their time making new above ground & below ground areas instead. My guess is they have been doing both actually, since again, with the engine already in place, creating new overworld areas (even relatively massive ones) would still not make sense to have taken six full years, but rather more like half that time even if new assets needed to be created. From everything we have seen, including interpretation of material from leaked artbook images (which is not certain, only speculated!), it seems as though this game will be delivering it's most oft requested additions - that being what looks to be seven more traditional style dungeons (to coincide with seven "tear" images), more enemy diversity (a small handful of which have already been revealed, that being - Gleeok, Redeads or Gibdos, Kargaroks, & what appears to be a new type of fat moblin, & not just a variation of the existing ones from BOTW), & a story that is focused more on the critical events at hand, not just dialog based backstory told through random, assorted memories. IMO, this is what has been taking the developers so long. Essentially, crafting a Zelda game that actually lives up to the quality of it's predecessors & appeases it's old fans who prefer the more classical style of gameplay, while also maintaining & expanding on the modern formula beloved by so many newcomers (& old alike) returning to the series as well.

[@CordeliaWagner]

I love Breath of the Wild for not having a story. I love that it is not linear. I don't need dungeons when there is such a big world to explore and interact with.

[@PigDaddy2020]

@@CordeliaWagner I can understand your point of view too. I've just been playing Zelda games for so long now (since the original when I was only 6 years old), that to not have dungeons feels weird to me! Hopefully this new upcoming sequel will manage to incorporate plenty of what we both love!

[@awayekevin3397]

@@CordeliaWagner yeah, except that big world to explore and interact with has nothing to do in it except fighting the same 3 enemies, do the same boring puzzles (yes puzzles in botw absolutely suck and no having different solutions don't magically make them good when they barely expand upon concepts), collect some korok seeds (that can barely be considered as content). Totk will probably be the saving grace of zelda since they will allocate time to actually make content.

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@awayekevin3397 You not liking or being dismissive of content doesn't make it content though.

[@awayekevin3397]

@@NuiYabuko that wasn't an english sentence.

[@mltyblnd]

honestly who cares how long it takes as long as its good and polished/fleshed out throughly

[@KellCollect]

Love the video Do u think u will ever be streaming again?

[@EndoYoutube]

yes, but i need to get a better computer that can handle it

[@a_goose_boii5208]

it'll be there in 9 days We just gotta be ready!

[@rafricmak]

It doesn't bother me too much that the game has been delayed for a year, on the contrary I think it's almost good news because it means that they take care of the game. And as Miyamoto said "A delayed game may be good one day; a bad game released will always be bad." And that's my opinion too.

[@GonzoGoesToBitburg87]

I think the game was done years ago, but Nintendo decided to "bookend" the life span of the switch with this game, the same way the console was launch with BOTW

[@DEvilParsnip]

It really comes down to, "in the development team we trust", with the release of the first masterpiece, we are willing to wait for something as good, unless the wachoski brothers have any input into it, then all expectations are at rock bottom.

[@jnee]

I have a feeling the added verticality and need to load an even bigger play area + time reversing mechanics must have made this a real challenge to optimize. So maybe it's just been version after version trying to get everything to run smoothly. No doubt this is going to push the switch to its absolute limit

[@ionzOG]

I’m glad there not revealing much. I can be excited and surprised for once

[@ElliotKeaton]

7:09 _"The Switch has sold over 120 million units. The company would surely want to take advantage of an already massive userbase that they've built up over the years rather than release all the games exclusively to a new console with fewer users."_ Nintendo isn't Capcom or EA. Console manufacturers make their money primarily through licensing fees. The primary job of Nintendo's games isn't to sell games, it's to sell hardware so that publishers like Capcom and EA sell more games on their consoles. Building an install base is their utmost priority, so much so that Sony and Microsoft sell their consoles at a loss. The Switch _has_ sold over 120 million units. But how many more is it going to sell? It's reaching market saturation and it's already 6 years old. Games that sells new consoles are worth far more to Nintendo than games that sell more copies copies but no consoles.

[@EndoYoutube]

Great points! I like the mention of market saturation. Apparently, Nintendo is expecting to sell another 20 million switch units this year alone, which I have no idea how that could be possible unless they discount the price of the device. They mentioned in a shareholder meeting that they have no plans to do that, but I reckon they would say that anyway even if they were planning to do so

[@depressedwatermelon411]

Always expected another switch like a switch 2 even though the oled is still fresh. But after the ps5 situation it started to make sense that they didn’t reveal anything since they probably couldn’t make it

[@truthseeker9117]

I'm glad it took them so long. Bang out a Zelda game every 7 months and it turns into Marvel...do one every 7 years? Legend...

[@foxlefox5213]

It's pretty obvious that after the release of Elden Ring, Nintendo suddenly found it necessary to give Tears of the Kingdom another year of development. The game we get will be different from what it originally would have been a year ago. Let's hope that's a good thing!

[@NuiYabuko]

"Pretty obvious", do you really think potentially changing the game that fundamentally would only make a difference of few months in development?

[@foxlefox5213]

@@NuiYabuko A few months? No. Why would I think that?

[@durtypan]

I hope there is some mindblowing thing in the middle of the game, like a dark world or an expansive underground area

[@JordyQ]

Is 6 years really that long? Been waiting for the ElderScrolls 6 for 12 now and tbh I don’t even think they’ve started it lol

[@lalinski2322]

My uneducated guess is as follows: Breath of the Wild was originally planned for the WiiU so they started development for it, but since the WiiU was such as failure financially, they alongside made the development of the Switch, and decided that it would be a good to sell it in there as a release title, which they did. Now, they just tweak some minor things for making it functional on the Switch, but they didn't want it to make it TOO much better because, if they did, people would see that the Switch was the better version, ditch the WiiU and furthermore decrease WiiU sales, which they didn't want to do (at the moment). They were limited by the WiiU's capabilities in what they could or couldn't do with the game. Now, what does this have to do with ToTK? Well, ToTK was never planned for the WiiU, it was for the Switch, so they could use all the Switch's capabilities to make it as powerful and innovative as they want it. Yes, they have the assets from BoTW, but the code and how those assets interact with it are totally different due to hardware and software, so they have to remake those as well. Another thing that may or may not have been influential in development is that the popularity of BoTW was so big that they tried to figure out how exactly are they going to surpass (or at least reach) its predecessor's success, because as many have pointed out, they are going to be very disappointed if ToTK doesn't turn out to be the best game of the year. Combine all of this with creative team (having to many ideas for the DLC lead to ToTK) + COVID pandemic = 6 years in development.

[@MadMaxxed1224]

Botw wasn't just planned for the Wii U, it also released on it But I agree with your points 👍

[@lalinski2322]

@@MadMaxxed1224 It was originally planned to be a WiiU exclusive (development started in 2011, right after Skyward Sword launched and it was meant to launch in 2015), but due to delays + WiiU being such a failure, they decided late in development to launch it in their newest console (Nintendo Switch) as well

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Never rush art, I played a game that was rushed and it is regarded as the most polarizing xeno.

[@nbarusss]

I would much rather a game be delayed and released in its best form than a rushed game that isn't perfect. Nintendo only has one shot to make a perfect sequel for a perfect game.

[@nightbrand8016]

Honestly I think they kinda just wanted to build hype. They know how much we want it, so they're taking their time to highlight the anticipation. And then using that time to probably flesh out a bunch of detailed, interesting things

[@edonis2787]

I’m glad they didnt rush it, and if they did id gladly wait longer

[@marioandultrachap]

On top of that they were obviously working on this game long before 2020. Even if covid had affected everything it shouldn't of delayed the game by 3 years. When it was already in development 3 years prior.

[@sirthisisawendys9030]

I wish more games did what they’re doing with TotK. There is no doubt development was affected by Covid. Many games were released despite not being able to do their best due to it. The most notable in my experience was bravely default II. The first few chapters are pretty good but you can see the major drop in quality mid game.

[@luisoncpp]

There is a caveat about that: very few new games made by Nintendo EPD have been released since 2020. Nintendo has been relying on other developers and subsidiaries to release the content.

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@luisoncpp And?

[@NuiYabuko]

What? lol That seems par for the course when it comes to BD.

[@sirthisisawendys9030]

@@NuiYabuko I thought the first two were pretty good :(

[@johnsimpsen5]

A game taking longer usually means it’ll be a better game when it comes out

[@cheergiver]

Nintendo has always been slow developing Zelda with the exception of Majora’s Mask. In addition to *the global issue* it’s not really a surprise it took so long.

[@sanholo9494]

I think the major thing is optimization. There is always something u can optimize to make the game run better. This is always something u have to balance out as a Game Dev how long is the Team working on new features and how long optimization. The features we already saw are looking more complicated and seemingly have a broader range of uses. So yeah much was already made but I think they used the time they got from the previous work wisely and focused more on Story, which is one of the things u can criticize about Botw that the Story was a bit Basic if u exclude the Story telling through Level Design and Sound Design which not everybody is willing to interpret what they are seeing or hearing and played every previous Zelda to get the Easter eggs like Lon-Lon Farm for example. Thats probably why they are so hesitant of sharing information, because some crazy People could already figure it out. And I mean Zeltik already made a crazy Loop theory which could actually be true from a 3-min trailer. Third Reason is for Botw they needed a selling point hence the Trailer, but now that everybody knows what they could expect Nintendo wants to keep it a secret as they don't need a selling point any more because of Botw.

[@tnl-warrior3218]

the spoiler from the title is the snake that wraps around it

[@ninjaeddy1717]

Given the lengths they went to make the first game, hopefully all the delays are about making the game better instead of actual development problems

[@VfxBlender]

I have noticed when Nintendo delays things it’s generally a good sign.

[@spencer1980]

Yeah there's no way I'm accepting this job. My whole bit has been "look, you're doomed without me," so when I'm finally offered the chance to do it, I can politely say "too late."

[@JustAGenericHero]

My brain on 0:45 : "one of the most Hylian-ticipated games"

[@7F0X7]

The thumbnail is *EXACTLY* what my gut has been screaming at me ever since the 2022 release was officially scrapped. I have a very bad feeling about this game. Not a 'no man's sky' level of bad feeling, but more of a 'halo 4' level bad feeling. You get me?

[@Mo167ose]

So the games artbook just leaked, and it completely disproves the idea of development hell. This game is gonna be insane

[@adamantsteel634]

@@Mo167osethis ^

[@SogonD.Zunatsu]

​@@Mo167ose How does artwork disproves anything? It's doesn't even show the iterative process, just the end and it's not impressive. At all.

[@bruno78392]

​@@SogonD.Zunatsu you don't know the definition of the word "impressive", do you?

[@SogonD.Zunatsu]

@@bruno78392 🙄

[@gabrielrufino4010]

I'm just happy that they're spending the time to deliver something (hopefully) great, instead of rushing it like they do to all pokemon games and we get the same crap every year

[@WilbertBeltman]

I'm not that excited for TOTK just because what you said, so far it looks like a massive expansion for botw. The magic and fun for me was exploration, and this is going to be the same map. But I've already seen that, obviously I will get it on releaae but I'm just not that hyped you know?

[@keaton1749]

Sequels to great things *video games, movies* dont get trailers they get 30 second teasers and for good reason. I agree with Nintendo

[@thecarnomeleon538]

It's been a perfectly normal amount of time that it takes to make a good game

[@DarkMaestro88]

Exactly. This whole video is unnecessary and full of speculation/opinions.

[@tumultuousv]

Alright but a sequel with reused map and engine? That's seriously strange (not in a bad way). Makes me think they're adding a lot more than expected.

[@tumultuousv]

@@DarkMaestro88 obviously. It's a speculative video.

[@DarkMaestro88]

@@tumultuousv It comes off as less a speculation video and more of a hit piece. There’s just a lot of negativity when Nintendo has given no reasons to be worried whatsoever. Aside from that I agree with you. I think there’s going to be a massive amount of content in this game and the majority of it isn’t being talked about or shown. I think they’ll have the same map from BotW but with improvements and some changes, and then on top of that have the entire sky filled with islands while also having a huge other underground area. It would all add up as to why they’ve put so much time into working on the game and as to why it’s got a $70 price tag. Nintendo knows this is their biggest title and they’re just not going to drop the ball on it. I think people should be extremely excited for this game.

[@Zucker1210]

@@tumultuousv Well i think it makes sense cuz if they don't have to make a completly new world they can put more of their focus on the sky and better dungeons

[@19STARLIGHT92]

all i can say is you don't rush a master piece.

[@edwardgamerx9061]

Nothing really, the game was already finished by 2022.

[@JarumaruKnox]

I think the fact that Tears of the kingdom takes 6 years of development although the graphics, world and engine is still the same should calm every person who is still worried about that game. Please guys, it is a new Mainline Zelda Game like, Botw, TP, WW, Oot etc. Why the hell should they screw up Zelda? It never happened before with any Mainline Zelda game. So have faith and look forward to The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

[@That_Guy_Denial]

How is it possible to be so underrated