What's the BEST Computer for Mastercam?

[@waynedejong6228]

Great video! Mastercam 2022 Intel Core i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E) Cores, 24 Threads up to 5.2 GHz, Ram: CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 5200MHz C40 Black 1.25V Desktop Memory Kit SSD -WD Black SN850 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 2280 w/Heatsink Read:7,000MB/s, Write:5,100MB/s SSD PNY nVidia Quadro RTX A4000 16GB GPU-Server / Workstation Graphics Controller - 4x DisplayPorts, Time: 2min 8 sec

[@CamInstructor]

That's easily the fastest time I've seen yet! Those 12th gen Intel chips being able to use DDR5 RAM (~2x faster than DDR4) and also PCIe Gen4 (~2x faster than Gen3), I think that is behind the majority if the improvements because that is a big step over the 10th and 11th gen systems!

[@CEO_Eng]

Mastercam 2020 CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X RAM: 32Gb SSD: Samsung EVO 970 (M.2) GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 DUAL (LHR version) Benchmark time was 2min 51sec. Awesome video. Thank you 👍

[@frp9737]

Thank you for posting your results

[@jtotheizzh]

Appreciate your work on this as I'm looking to upgrade some PC's for my machinists. I ran your test on 3 different machines. Here are the results: Old Desktop 4min 56s - Precision Tower 5810, Xeon E5-1620 v3 @3.5GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro K2200 4GB Laptop 3min 43s - Precision 5530, i7-8850H @2.60GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro P1000 4GB New Desktop 4min 03s - Precision Tower 7820, Xeon Gold 5222 @3.8GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 4GB I find it interesting that the laptop beat both desktops. Including the one we just got. I think this confirms for me how important the CPU is (as you've said). I also noticed while watching the performance monitor that the GPU isn't doing much at all. Oh and I was using Mastercam 3D 2021.

[@CamInstructor]

I've asked about toolpath calculation and GPU usage. The answer, which does make a lot of sense, is that the job of dividing the calculations up and giving to the GPU as well as managing this handling of data ends up being a net loss. So the GPU will calculate a toolpath faster but all the logistics involved ends up making the overall process take longer than just a straight CPU calc. However, where the process is beneficial, Mastercam does use the GPU. (ever see that OpenCL note when opening Mastercam? That's the process that handles this) Like I eluded to in the video, I think we just need a better file to test with in order to get a better overall system check. There are also benefits to Xeon processors that I'm not sure will show up in any benchmarks.

[@jtotheizzh]

@@CamInstructor Thanks for the details. For the record, I'm just the I.T. guy who's responsible for updating the PC's of our machinists. I don't use or know much about Mastercam, Solidworks, etc. So I definitely appreciate what you're doing. Hopefully I can gain enough knowledge to make an informed purchase soon.

[@shawn01707]

Xeon is not good for MasterCam.. a i5 would beat it. High clock speed!! I7 or I9. Their bench times will be similar but the I9 will perform much better at running multiple programs like Solidworks in tandem. Such a frustrating issue that MasterCam ever chose to put Xeon on their recommended specs! Not saying it does not work but when I begin to utilize stock models “which is a must unless u feel like creating dozens of tool containment curves over and over and have waaay more tool paths then u need. “ I personally like to use a high feed insert and do .03” step downs at very high feeds vs dynamic milling with a full carbide end mill. It can be faster and the chips are waay easier to clean up. Downside.. doing so adds a lot more step downs and a lot more toolpath calculations. Tip: always use stock models over just referencing old tool paths to cut remaining stock. Having stock models allows u to only have to regen one or two paths not all of them. I’ve had a 8 hour regen once it was terrible. I would never wish a Xeon cou on any MasterCam user! Usually we get stuck with it thanks to someone not the end user buying the PC based off Matercams recommended specs and assuming a Xeon is better.. it is not.. there are cases where having one makes sense if u run tons of programs but for a dedicated Cam PC nope never!

[@nikospetrakis2056]

have a precision m4800 with a intel i7-4940 cpu and nvidia load time 15 seconds

[@joeyravesteijnvan7798]

Great vid! Were coming from 2018, about to upgrade the shop to 2022 I thought 2022 was able to use Quadro compute now. Bit late to the show, but We are running dual Xeon 6c at 3.5ghz K5500 128GB and regular SSD Note: using core virtualization like 6c cpu showing 12 cores will slow mastercam Disable in the bios for maximum performance.

[@K-DaK]

Hello and thanks for all the good videos! Had a discussion at work if Xeons and Quadros are worth it, so I just had to install MCam2023 HLE on my private computer and test. Mastercam 2023 HLE i5-12600 (6 P-cores, no E-cores) 3.3GHz to 4.8 GHz Boost RTX 3060 12Gb Corsair 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Vengeance LPX Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB Time: 2min 34sec

[@gregjoncas9109]

You guys are awesome! Thanks for the videos.

[@CamInstructor]

Thanks for watching!

[@gregjoncas9109]

My benchmark score for Mastercam 2021 was 4:37. I am running Intel Core i7-4960X @3.6GHz, 32 Gb of Ram, 64 bit and NVidia Quadro K4000.

[@The25sasa]

Do you have maybe a ssd?

[@gregjoncas9109]

@@The25sasa Yes I do. Samsung 500Gb

[@nikospetrakis2056]

i have a precision laptop m4800 - i7-4940 and a nvidia gpu and load time is 15 seconds and 32 gb memoty

[@heathenskip]

Great video! Very informative. I work in a machine shop and need to build a new pc to run Mastercam professionally and i have a 3070 on hand. I plan on pairing it with a Ryzen 9 7900x and 32 gigs of DDR5 6000 ram. In your opinion, would this be a decent setup for Mastercam?

[@TommiHonkonen]

i played with gibbs at work, there is some 10 year old pc, 6/12 xeon. Only time it used more than 2 cores was for 5 axis toolpaths. Most else was 1 or 2 cores. Kinda bummer because its slooooow when the cpu can boost up to 3ghz only. I have 10700k and is fast. I figure more speed is better than more cores.

[@CamInstructor]

Yes, cpu speed is king for toolpath calculations since most of the processing is linear....you have to calculate position 1 before you can calculate position 2, 3, 4, etc so that makes it tough to segment a toolpath and let multiple cores work on the same thing. But, we do more than just toolpath in CAM software these days so we can't totally ignore multi core processors either.

[@floxmfpv5295]

My time was 5:42 Runing on a HP envy Laptop: Intel Core i7-8550U 1.8 GHZ 16 GB RAM 256 GB SSD NVDIA GeForce Mx 150 Mastercam 2022

[@ipadize]

my computer took 3:19 with an Ryzen 7 3700x Stock edit: while i have the Vivaldi browser open with approximately 100 tabs open (yes i really have that much open)

[@haroldjoubert1986]

Good video. Thank you 👍

[@CamInstructor]

Thank you too

[@theebytesoftware]

Hi Mike, if you want to do something to Benchmark Mastercam using the chook sdk, I do have such a project. Peter

[@CamInstructor]

Definitely interested, what does your project have Mcam do?

[@theebytesoftware]

@@CamInstructor It makes a new Solid from the active CPlane using Boolean.. The new Solid suppresses Features outside of the active cPlane. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWeyiJeueLFpnbs

[@piolin23iq]

Awesome vid; however, the big event is the one vid am looking forward to. Plz post.

[@CamInstructor]

Big Event records can be seen here... info.caminstructor.com/the-big-event

[@ipadize]

may it be possible that you could make a tutorial on active reports setup sheets and how to manipulate them? Possibly with showing all parameters available for Mastercam, because thats what i search for the whole time.

[@CamInstructor]

Its on the radar. It will be a ton of work so it might have to wait till I've got a good chunk of time to get into it with.

[@ipadize]

@@CamInstructor maybe if you have time you could make a short video showing the help file and scrolling through the tag glossary shown in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJCsY3aXrdyrrbc that would help me also a lot. The problem is, when i click on the help button i get an error message (probably because its an HLE) and at work it just opens the browser and opens the mastercam website, which is useless.

[@MachinistEdgar]

Alienware M17 Laptop with 10th Gen i9-10980HK RTX 2080 Super 32gb RAM I do have the gaming driver installed, 3:33

[@CamInstructor]

Thats a pretty solid time!

[@MachinistEdgar]

@@CamInstructor I just downloaded and installed the studio driver and the time went down to 3:27. Not much of an impact but a difference nonetheless. Thank you for the benchmark file.

[@CamInstructor]

Every little bit counts!

[@nikospetrakis2056]

had a dell precision m6800 i7 4th gen and time to load was close to 1 minute , find a m4500 with a nvidia f1800 gpu and time was 40 seconds ,got a dell 7490 i7-1.9 8650 and time is 18 second to load mastercam

[@CamInstructor]

any of those using an HDD? They can really slow down load times

[@slammed4575]

Anyone know if mastercam tends to lean on the gpu more or the cpu? Not sure if I should go with a top of the line cpu or gpu

[@CamInstructor]

You'll want a high mhz cpu such as an i9. I would not recommend anything in the Xeon line. Without knowing what kind of work you do, or budget, tough to make a call on GPU.

[@zitronbolikov2900]

You are the best 👏👏👏👏

[@CamInstructor]

No, you are! 👍

[@henrikahlstrom4339]

MC: 2022 CPU: Intel 7700 K RAM 16hb GPU GTX 1080 Banched at 3:46

[@CamInstructor]

Nice!

[@DH_5464]

i5-12600k stock with tower cooler, 16gb ddr4 2666MHz and Nvidia T1000 in Mastercam 2022 comes in at 2min 24s

[@CamInstructor]

That's pretty quick! I'm guessing no bloatware on that machine allowing all the i5 to blast through those toolpaths!

[@DH_5464]

@@CamInstructorIts a new system but I think its just the 12th gen single core performance that is so impressive. I have rerun the test a couple of times, because I could not believe its so much faster than my Xeon workstation.

[@mihael6818]

hello , thanks for video , i would like to ask can i run MasterCam with i7-11K , 16G RAM, RTX3050 ?

[@CamInstructor]

Yes, you can

[@cheeriomartinez]

Anyone else having issues with 2021 graphics? Everytime time I save, my surface regenerates and takes a long time. On 2020 it does it pretty quick.

[@CamInstructor]

System specs?

[@cheeriomartinez]

@@CamInstructor intel core i7-7700 cpu. 16gb ram. Using the onboard graphics card and Nvidia geforce GT730. It's a shared network computer so I can't do much to it aside from changing some graphic settings so mastercam 2021 uses the nvidia graphics card as it's primary graphics. Basically, I did the same exact thing to make 2020 work more efficiently to 2021 and 2021 seems to lag pretty bad.

[@CamInstructor]

Might need some clarification on what is happening. It lags when saving? Something is regenerating when you save? First, make sure the drivers for your video card are up to date. That card does meet the minimum requirements but you're really pushing the limits of a GT card with CAD/CAM. If you are experiencing lag when saving and you are running on network storage, might be worthwhile to investigate there as well. Try saving local and see if there is a difference.

[@prasantht2593]

is there any free book available for mastercam ?

[@CamInstructor]

We have a couple free lessons here you can check out... info.caminstructor.com/caminstructor-resource-hub

[@ipadize]

there is no GTX 3080 :)

[@CamInstructor]

Haha, missed that one. I had it right in my google sheet though :) RTX!

[@ok-70707]

lol gtx 3080