What’s the best value 1/0 OFC wire? (1/0 OFC Cheat Sheet Update)

[@bassanonymous4923]

I get a lot of my 0 gauge from my local Pull and Save junkyard. A lot of the newer cars that has the battery in the rear will have a pure copper 0 gauge wire running from the trunk area all the way to the hood area. Been doing this for years and never had an issue. Plus rather than 2 to $4 a foot you're averaging out roughly 25 to 50 Cent foot 🍻😁🔊🌪🌪

[@HifiVega]

Pro tip!

[@craigengelman4534]

only problem when dealing with used is copper turns green . now if you ever see it no big deal get a bottle of coke opean the wire pour soda on it wait couple mins rince clean with water dry it with hair dryer wrap with eletric tape then i use heat shrink the 3 time one and good to go .

[@bassanonymous4923]

Haven't had that issue yet but I also try to only get from newer cars.. a little vinegar and baking soda also does the trick🔊🔊🌪😁

[@djkeys415s]

Man I bought some stinger that's 0 but looks like 4awg

[@djkeys415s]

I also been doing that but it be stiff and 2awg pure copper tho

[@SaltwaterBoogeyman]

Best one on the web love how this built up and you keep updating

[@HifiVega]

Thanks homie!

[@MullinPerformance]

Either looks like it will get the job done. Flexibility and tinned are the two things I look for the most.

[@HifiVega]

Flexibility is nice

[@edud8452]

My go to is going to have to be Skyhigh it's never let me down. I order it direct from them always gets here in 2 days but you better use their lugs and ferruls.

[@HifiVega]

yeah Jon killing the game on ship speed fo sho!

[@scribbyj]

Yet another great video by the man, Vega. Helping take the guess work out of which wire is the bomb and the homework is done. Great job buddy.

[@HifiVega]

Appreciate it man!

[@garyclemmons1073]

Thanks for the update. I watch all of your videos. I’ve always thought and maybe I commented before that the taped together sample reminds me of sushi. Have a great day.

[@HifiVega]

Thanks for watching!

[@rajasekhar9840]

Hello Robert, 2 questions 1. When selecting a power wire what all insulation materials we can look at and which is most ideal and flexible insulation. 2. Any suggestions for speaker wires with good shielding against noise. Thank you

[@TPDhifi]

I don't understand the point of paying extra for tinned copper in amp (car audio) wire. The purpose of tinning is to resist corrosion in areas exposed to the elements, yet the insulation on car audio wiring does not resist elements as well as actual battery cable. If you are that worried about corrosion, wouldn't it make sense to just buy actual battery cable with tinned copper so both the conductor and insulator will last?

[@dlcarburetor]

I'm a big fan of Knuconceptz but these did really well. Went full Knuconceptz for my daily driver but may have to go HiFi Vega for my other car, brainstorming like crazy on that one.

[@HifiVega]

Yeah Knu is great

[@elfuego4341]

The 1/0 Master swinging the thick OFC lasso again.

[@HifiVega]

😳😂

[@paulgood2218]

The wire king !! Is back !! Thank you Hifi for your research and contribution !! Also you kinda a battery expert can you do some videos on battery's . The difference between types batteries and what all the numbers mean discharge rates . And how pick a good good car audio battery . .

[@HifiVega]

Thanks! I'm less versed on lithium and that's where the market is heading, but I might do that in the future after I've done more research.

[@paulgood2218]

@@HifiVega that is where market going I do agree . But right now only maybe few percent the high end guys running lithium . The working class budget guys still trying price together what we can . I'm on alot the budget bass groups and there always so many questions and not alot understanding how battery's work. . I look forward to your future videos !!

[@1Patient]

I appreciate the shoot-out Thanks for posting Vega 👍 Now, lets talk tech. I don't know much about it, but I do know some basic understanding of electricity. OFC is OFC, there is nothing magical about it. It just is what it is, OFC! Some are tinned, some is Aluminum (CCA). Different Gauges, different current draws, and amp pull downs, Resistance, I get it 🙄 the longer the wire, the more the resistance. Cost. prices have increased over the last little while, (inflation, adjusted for stabile economic policies, I understand it, I get it,... don't like it, but I get it...) I have purchased Welding cable, it is OFC, it is multi-strand, highly flexible and flows current just as efficiently as any other cable of the same kind shape, size, etc... If these other wires were so much more efficient, don't you think that industries would have incorporated these designs into their manufacturing processes already? Don't you think Elon Musk must be using Full Tilt Cabling to power those booster rockets when leaving earths atmosphere, or do you think he is using that CCA cabling instead from Scosche?? 😁😃

[@HifiVega]

OFC is kind of car audio marketing. Welding cable is perfectly acceptable as it is pure copper. It’s just less flexible

[@1ohmwrecker]

Dude, you totally got the DC wire lol. All I've ever bought was the 4 and 8 gauge. I've never noticed the difference in jacket like this tho? But I love its beautiful wire and love what it says lol. But I only use it for speaker wire to be honest.

[@HifiVega]

Like Pokémon I’m tryna catch em all

[@kswis]

Hell ya skyhigh ftw. I'd go with the limitless otherwise. Excellent update ty sir

[@ranchosdelnorte]

I feel like I won the jackpot because I managed to get 2 50ft rolls of 1/0 OFC Sky High Audio cable for $126(that's what I paid for both, would have still been a decent deal even if I got each piece at that price.) But if I didn't get this sweet deal, I came across a brand called Atrih Technologies, they have 50ft rolls of OFC for $119(plus shipping) and the wire looks fairly legit and worth checking out.

[@HifiVega]

That’s a steal! I’ll check out the Atrih.

[@TheMotoPiercer]

Im glad I found this video, I initially was pretty high on Knuconcepts but they did me Dirty, I ordered 1 Foot of 1/0 block wire and 12 feet of red, They sent me 11 of red and 2 foot of black. They woudn't do me right, went through the whole trouble of reproducing order and weighing it and woudn't pay for me to ship their order back. I didn't order by weight So I will definitely use this list. Thank you!

[@michaelgroves7178]

I couldn't see the cheat sheet. Thank you for letting us know what wires are best.

[@dilbeckskate]

killer video man

[@HifiVega]

Thanks bro

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

You know, I was just looking up different metals and resistances, and Tin is only as electrically conductive as brass and nickel, its actually way less than aluminium, and its like 4 times the resistance of copper. So I wonder, is tin plated wire actually inferior to bare OCF wire, would it be far higher resistance per km or mile? I heard or read somewhere that the tarnish on copper doesn't affect the resistance or current transfer, and that that oxide layer in fact is beneficial. I think that's total BS personally, and I've always bought tinned wire for its longevity. Ever had wire that's turned green and powdery the whole way down the entire length of wire? After seeing this morning that the resistance of copper is like 60 aluminium was around 40 and tin nickel zinc and brass were around 15, it makes me wonder.... Is tinned wire in fact a poor choice like CCAW wire? (It's not as bad because its only a plating, but you get what I mean, is it measurably inferior) I also thought brass was miles better than aluminium and that's why I just spent hundreds on all these brass fuse holders and distro blocks, I thought aluminium was far inferior, boy did I f&#* up! 😆🤣😭 The only thing about aluminium I really hate is that it is very soft and threads are very easily destroyed.

[@freeradical431]

Aluminum is superior in a lot of ways, its lighter, by weight its more conductive than copper, it dissipates heat faster, costs a lot less but you would probably need 2 runs of cheap CCA to equal 1 run of quality OFC.

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

In fact, if you ran 2 runs of CCAW, you end up with less resistance than 1 run of OFC. So, if the aluminium wire is half the cost of the copper, double it up and you are far far better off. You have to go up by 3 AWG sizes to double strand count or half resistance. If you ran 2 runs of 0awg CCAW instead of 1 run of OFC, electrically its almost the same as if you had of ran 3/0AWG copper. Because 0AWG is (all roughly) about 4000 strands, 2/0 is 5300 and 3/0 is 6600 strands. And 4/0 is 8000, or twice as much as 0AWG. And aluminium is apparently 60-65٪ as conductive as copper. I've done so much damn shopping the last few months, and I've learned that 1) getting accessories such as fuse holders, distribution blocks, battery terminals etc etc that can accept *larger* than 0AWG is basically impossible & 2) because you need to go to 4/0 just to double the current of 0AWG, because you don't save money buying the thicker wire, it actually costs a premium the thicker you want it, you are far *far* better off buying multiple runs of 0AWG than buying a thicker cable. For example, you might think its smart to run 2/0 from the front to the rear of the car, but its really is not smart at all, its going to give you 30% more current at best while costing much much more than 30% more $, then additionally you would have to use lugs because you can't find accessories that accept the 2/0AWG. Its *WAY* smarter and cheaper to buy a big roll of 0AWG CCAW and do 2 or hell even 3 runs of it, it will be lighter and more flexible and you will have more options with how you run it and how you terminate it and what accessories you can use, and this way you can do everything without having to buy a crimper and lugs too. In the end, if you buy CCAW and double it up, its equivalent to using copper in 2 sizes up, eg 2 runs of 0AWG CCAW is equivalent to a run of 3/0AWG OFC, because again, the aluminium is around 66% or 2/3rds of the conductivity, and each step up in AWG size (or each number down) is 33% more conducting metal eg 0AWG = 4000 strand, 2/0AWG = 5300 strand, 3/0AWG = 6600 strand. Knowing this info can save you so much time in researching power accessories like terminals, distribution blocks and the power wire, its crazy, let alone the money. And if you have super hungry amps, well, of course you just buy those dual 0AWG inputs. You buy a big roll, multiple runs from front to rear, make 4 runs to each amp if you want. I bought these sweet distribution blocks that are 2x 0AWG in - 4x 0AWG out, so I run 2 off the battery, to 2 fuses, in to the distro blocks, then 4 out to 2 pairs of dual input adapters to the amp. It's all smart, because the 2 runs off the battery, to the 2 ANL fuses, then to the distro blocks are super short, just a few inches long, then the 4 that go from the distribution blocks to the amp are fairly long, but because they are more than twice as long as the short ones, the 4 are actually the bottleneck, the 4 runs that go to the amp is a higher resistance than the 2 runs off the battery to the distribution block. I know there's a lot of wordy words in there 😂, but I do think its super helpful info, so I hope it helps someone out

[@PeterFeltersnatch852]

@@minus3dbintheteens60 holy sh!t. You got to be a computer program, (ai) cuz that was pretty damn technical. If you're not props... Screenshotted lot of excellent information and seems like hours of research! 👍

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

@@PeterFeltersnatch852 sweet man, Im glad it can help someone out, coz I've spent countless hours these past couple of months deciding what wire and what accessories like fuse holders to buy. My advice, get a roll of CCAW 0AWG, and look at the IllCustomz 0AWG distribution blocks, they come in 6+6, 8+8 or even 10+10, so that 10+10 can accept 10 bare 0AWG wires on 1 side, and another 10 on the other side, 20 connections in total, they are made of aluminium which is better than brass and is actually better than everything other than super expensive copper, BUT, when copper and aluminium interact together they seriously degrade each other, they are poisonous to each other, but using the CCAW + the aluminium distribution block keeps it all the same, and light weight, and they are sold in pairs. Just google ILL CUSTOMZ 10 + 10 0AWG and you will see what I mean. A pair of them and a roll of 0AWG CCAW, you can supply *serious* current to whatever amps you like, with plenty out outputs to run off to all the batteries and capacitors and alternators you can muster. Again, you won't need a lug crimper or anything because you can get 0AWG bare wire fuse holders and battery terminals and everything you need. I wouldn't get the SMD fuse holders or distribution blocks or buss bars because they all require lugs, so do pretty much all curcuit breakers. ILL CUSTOMZ also sell dual 0AWG input adapters, but I've seen them on ebay for $30 aussie dollars a pair free post also. The only downside to going this way is I guess having to run extra power wires could look messy, I kinda of think it looks hard-core seeing 20 different 0AWG running everywhere, 4 going into each amp haha. Anyway, check out those products and have a think about the prices. They sell *super* fast, but if you want the distribution blocks that are 2x 0AWG in - 4x 0AWG out that I just bought myself, search on eBay for DB2040 distribution block. Peace!

[@freeradical431]

@@minus3dbintheteens60 Yep! U got it. Just got to have the space for it.

[@RJSDZNS]

I still like Knu Conceptz. Love the content Rob. Keep it coming!

[@timmyinthewell1]

3:21 You might get a more accurate measurement using the part of the calipers that's closer to the tips.

[@HifiVega]

The tip of the tool is more susceptible to pressure manipulation that’s why I try to use the broad area in hopes of a more consistent result

[@timmyinthewell1]

@@HifiVega It is more susceptible to pressure so its best not to apply much pressure when measuring this way. Measuring a curved surface from the flat areas of the caliper and then squeezing ( it appeared that you were squeezing the calipers rather firmly?) to get a measurement would almost certainly produce a wider variety of less accurate measurements. That's my 2 cents anyway, I was a machinist for roughly 10 years.

[@HifiVega]

@@timmyinthewell1 yeah I’m pretty familiar with using calipers as well using them every day for about 20yrs at work to measure parts and on the parts at work (lead plates) I use the tip because they’re not flexible like a wire casing. These wire casings also have ridges inside of them and many are inconsistent from one end to the other so i discovered this way was the best way for me to get consistent measurements after measuring more than 30+ wires and making 7 different videos on them.

[@darrelsmith4549]

Plus when weighing he had a bit on the table and the scale by accident I'm sure,but it appears so🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bobshool1237]

Thanks man. I use Shyhigh

[@leonardslade903]

King of comparison lol

[@phrogman4654]

I bought some cheep Pyramid 4 gauge wire from Amazon. It was stupid the jacket was 1/8 thick on both sides and had less then 10 gauge wire running down the center. Sent that crappy wire back.

[@HifiVega]

That's exactly why I started doing this

[@chrispuckett1347]

Full tilt audio ofc for the win it high but you get what you pay for

[@drvictoria07]

💯. That's all I use in my build. All full tilt audio wire. I couldn't be happier.

[@leonardslade903]

I would like to see OEM copper weight compared from GM ford honda ect

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Use good wire so you don't start a 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.

[@HifiVega]

🔥🔥

[@850CANE]

I have 320 amp alternator and a single 15 ft run of 1/0 ofc wire to my lithium bank. Do i need another run of 1/0? My amp is a crescendo bass clef 6k. Thank you. Ii can't get a straight answer to this.

[@HifiVega]

Your single run should be capable of handling that load without issue, but if you want to have less voltage drop a second run should help.

[@Silentroller93]

Would you do some 4awg comparison videos?

[@HifiVega]

I haven't yet...

[@chevylife171]

Have u ever tested american bass 1/0 ofc wire is it any good

[@HifiVega]

I have, but not on video. It’s solid wire just make sure you get the higher strand count ofc

[@chevylife171]

@HifiVega it high spl ofc 50 feet for 156 I purchase some I was wondering was it as good as other

[@techfordummies6801]

What better tinned ofc or ofc

[@jakeclark3298]

Mesa is 6.67 Ft 410$ for 60 ft roll from a dealer

[@leonardslade903]

Would you install your big 3 upgrade

[@HifiVega]

I’m always so far behind on what I need to do I haven’t even had time to finish the Trooper build 😬

[@freeradical431]

Does 2 runs of CCA beat 1 run of OFC?

[@HifiVega]

I’d hafta test it out to say one way or the other, but as far as corrosion resistance no

[@mrcornut]

Just do a 2/0 run if you need more capability, don't use CCA

[@1ohmwrecker]

@@HifiVega that would be some good content to be honest! I've had 1 run of 2/0 welding wire and a run of 1/0 CCA both running to my back batteries for a good year atleast till I swapped it out with all welding wire. I figured it could only help.🤣

[@freeradical431]

@@mrcornut I would but most people dont know that CCA flows more current by mass than OFC. Meaning CCA that weighs the same as OFC, not measured by diameter of wire, will flow more current. But in cars size is an issue and therefore favor OFC.

[@mrcornut]

@@freeradical431 CCA will still corrode/get brittle faster. Plus double the ring terminals, wire to purchase, grommets, zip ties, sleeving, heat shrink, fuse holders, ferules etc.. when you do the math, you're not really saving doing a second run IMO. People should run some good copper and call it a day. Overthinking it by focusing on theoretical current capability, you overlook the added costs and downsides by going with CCA. Look at the cost per gram of copper from the Limitless on his list. That stuff isn't the thickest, but if cost is somebody's only concern it's probably comparable to a couple similarly sized CCA runs after factoring in the other added costs. This is my subjective opinion, I live in a moist area that sees rain 200 days/yr.

[@rubbensofficial5511]

Where’s the welding wire by windy nation

[@1ohmwrecker]

From what I've heard its not the best?

[@HifiVega]

I’ve got some here and it’s 1/0 awg standard, but some are more flexible than others

[@daddydude2011]

Where is the link to the cheat sheet ?

[@HifiVega]

got it up now I was trippin and didn't get my description in

[@jonathansch444]

DS18 wire ????

[@shawndalewilliams9871]

Treo 1/0 wire

[@Widowmaker2828]

4/0 welding cable!!!

[@firebirdude2]

Wow. SUPER disappointed in JL Audio. Paying the most and getting close to the least.

[@HifiVega]

I felt the same way. Maybe I need to try a newer sample

[@quickclips510]

Don't mean to be the hater but come on how many videos can you make about wire already

[@HifiVega]

Trying to measure every brand available. You can easily skip the ones that don’t interest you.

[@quickclips510]

@@HifiVega I'm trying to give you advice homie if the best your channel has to offer me is wire comparisons I'm going back to Williston audio his video are just as boring but atleast he has a likeable voice

[@HifiVega]

@@quickclips510 bye 👋🏼

[@ansalon72]

This cat literally wants every video crafted specifically to his likes and tastes. I may be stating the obvious here, but that’s not how content creation works. If it did, he would have exactly one subscriber. Why not do what everyone else does and enjoy the content that suits you, while scrolling past the things you don’t particularly like? Wouldn’t that be a lot easier than Rob changing his whole channel to suit you?

[@quickclips510]

@@ansalon72 besides being a chump my point was vega has no originality because he keeps repeating the same videos you say he's a content creator Im saying he's not creating new content