What's the big deal about baptism?

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[@PastorBryanWolfmueller]

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[@timl5282]

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is for the remission (pardon, forgiveness) of sins. ( Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38 & 22:16, Colossians 2:11,12 ) The Bible does say that New Testament Baptism saves us. ( Acts 2:38-40, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16 ) The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is our burial, which is an essential part of the gospel of Death, Burial, and Resurrection. ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 6:3-5, Colossians 2:12 )

[@denny33]

Baptism is absolutely a work. It is a work of God. It is not a work that we do. It is a work that is done to us.

[@Brosephus]

I REALLY REALLY love your KZbin picture. Its also got a cool look to it! PS. I agree with your comment :)

[@RCopley23]

The means he uses to cleanse us is the Word. The Word is all you need. You can see in real time the Word regenerating people everyday. I would affirm all the gifts that you would say come with baptism, but I do not see it scripturally as the cause of salvation.. "So faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God"

[@billyjack3678]

The baptism that saves, is not the baptism with water

[@Mygoalwogel]

Matthew 3:15 Jesus insisted that even John's baptism was fitting for them to fulfill all righteousness. A servant is not greater than his Lord. Matthew 3:16 In baptism, the Father claims the Son. The Spirit rests on the Son. Matthew 21:25 Mere water baptism is a gift from Heaven. Matthew 28:19 Make disciples by baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and by teaching. Mark 1:4 Mere water baptism repentance grants the forgiveness of sins. Mark 16:16 *Baptized believers are saved, unbelievers condemned.* Luke 7:29 Even water baptism is a public declaration that God is righteous. Luke 7:30 *Rejecting even mere water baptism = rejecting God's purpose for you.* John 1:31, 33 John knew beforehand that God would reveal the Christ through baptism. Acts 2:38 *Repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus = forgiveness and the Spirit.* Acts 2:39-41 3000 bachelors, virgins, wives, husbands, and children of all ages *received forgiveness and the Spirit in baptism.* The smallest can't have decided to repent in a mature way, but they were not excluded. Acts 8 Many early church Bible readers saw a distinction between the Spirit's invisible gift of repentance/forgiveness and the Spirit's visible gift of leadership/ordination. Philip the Evangelist could baptize but not bestow spiritual authority. Only the apostles could do that. Acts 10:47-48 *Baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism.* Acts 22:16 *Baptism washes away sins.* Romans 6:3-5 *Water Baptism (which buries) is death to sin, death with Christ, newness of life in Christ, and resurrection with Christ.* 1 Corinthians 1:13 Baptism must not turn into hero worship, cliques, and factionalism. 1 Corinthians 12:13 On the contrary, baptism is unity in the one Holy Spirit in Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:29 Even heretical baptism declares the resurrection of the dead. Galatians 3:27-28 Baptism clothes every member of the body of Christ in equality. Ephesians 3:5 There is one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all. Ephesians 5:26 *Baptism sanctifies the Church because it is the washing of water with the word.* Colossians 2:11 Water Baptism is the Spiritual circumcision, the circumcision of Christ. Colossians 2:12 Christ was buried. You were buried with Christ *in water baptism.* God raised Christ from the dead. You believe God raised Christ from the dead. Therefore, God raised you with Christ *in baptism.* This is all *God’s powerful work.* Hebrews 6:1-2 *Baptism is a basic foundational teaching. You can't say you believe in Jesus while rejecting his basic teachings.* 1 Peter 3:20 Noah was saved by water, not from water. The flood waters washed away much evil. 1 Peter 3:21 Baptism now *saves you!* Baptism is assurance/demand of a good conscience before God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This verse summarizes all that has been said above.

[@billyjack3678]

I think you are trying to combine 2 different baptisms into one, the scripture does not do that

[@Mygoalwogel]

@@billyjack3678 Acts 10:47-48 Baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism. Mark 1:4 Mere water baptism repentance grants the forgiveness of sins. Luke 7:30 Rejecting even mere water baptism = rejecting God's purpose for you. Acts 2:38 Repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus = forgiveness and the Spirit. Acts 22:16 Paul's water Baptism washed away his sins. Romans 6:3-5 Water Baptism *(which buries)* is death to sin, death with Christ, newness of life in Christ, and resurrection with Christ. Ephesians 5:26 Baptism sanctifies the Church because it is the washing of *water* with the word.

[@billyjack3678]

First a prideful man can not receive this. The only baptism that saves is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. It never comes with water in the scriptures, and it is not the speaking in tongues. It is the new birth, it has nothing to do with mans water baptism

[@Mygoalwogel]

@@billyjack3678 Try again. Acts 10:47-48 Baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism. Mark 1:4 Mere water baptism repentance grants the forgiveness of sins. Luke 7:30 Rejecting even mere water baptism = rejecting God's purpose for you. Acts 2:38 Repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus = forgiveness and the Spirit. Acts 22:16 Paul's water Baptism washed away his sins. Romans 6:3-5 Water Baptism (which buries) is death to sin, death with Christ, newness of life in Christ, and resurrection with Christ. Ephesians 5:26 Baptism sanctifies the Church because it is the washing of water with the word.

[@mysticmouse7261]

I'm hungry for theology

[@lutherserbe6435]

Man you do so awesome videos, the Lutherans (no offends, but it is the true denomination) are way to under represented in the internet! May God Bless you!

[@MrGassemann]

Bring Weedon in and you gather the three most awesome radio voices online media has to offer! Thanks!

[@donwhite1238]

A beautiful, concise, understandable teaching on why baptism saves!

[@SMJ0hnson]

I noticed you read Ephesians 5:25 correctly, “by washing with water by the word” and then immediately after said “water and the word”. Multiple times you repeat “water and word”, so it clearly was not a slip up. That change in language makes a massive difference. I’d love for you to show, exclusively from the Greek, how Paul is not saying the word is doing the washing. Because otherwise you’ve (no offense, brother) have made a huge error by rephrasing the text to suit your interpretation. Reading the Greek for myself, I notice the glaring absence of “Kai” between water / word. Just saying. I look forward to your reply.

[@Dilley_G45]

So true...Sound doctrine Matters. Qualifications of a pastor: Being able to understand and teach SOUND doctrine...not being able to use love to gloss over schisms. Division is bad when it's "contrary" to sound doctrine. Etc.

[@andrewchase6748]

Wow, Right when i was watching your video on why im a Lutheran.!

[@KatAmanti]

do you believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a separate baptism? The bible says ONE faith, ONE hope, ONE baptism. I go to a church where the preacher speaks in tongues, even while he's preaching. Sometimes he gives an interpretation of his tongues, but most of the time he doesn't it. To me it's annoying, and unedifying. Is it wrong for him to speak in tongues while he's preaching? I guess he gets so excited, he just has to speak in tongues. Let me know, thanks.

[@bigtobacco1098]

Language or gibberish ??

[@martinjohnson1366]

Since Baptism saves (1Pet 3:21), Baptism must be a work of God and not a work of man because our own works don't save us (Eph 2:8-9). Clearly stated without ambiguity: "And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the body but the guarantee of a good conscience before God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." (1Peter 3:21) EHV

[@bobbyfitzgerald7522]

Baptism work of God Col. 2 12-13

[@rickpettey8822]

This topic is near and dear to my heart. My B.A. in biblical studies was received at Palm Beach Atlantic University, a S.B.C. school in West Palm Beach, FL. Baptism was THE most discussed/argued/debated topic while there. In the beginning, to be honest, I was not all that prepared to defend it nor was actually convinced of the efficaciousness of infant baptism. (I had not long before returned to the church after being absent for several years). I am so thankful to my Christian brothers and sisters at that school for pushing me to really get into Scripture and not rely on rationalism for the foundation of my faith in Christ. Once I became a pastor, those prior "discussions" motivated me to prepare a study on infant baptism, and baptism in general. For unlike Pastor Wolfmuller I have a face for radio. :) Not to mention that I am somewhat older and not so well-versed in this whole video age. This Bible-study is 8 pages in length and addresses a number of the typical issues that arise regarding Infant Baptism. If you would like to receive it feel free to email me directly at: [e-mail]. I promise not to contact you further unless you request it. If you wish to verify my identity you can do so by going to the LCMS webpage and on its locater tab look up Rick Pettey. I am pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church, Fredericktown, MO. and Zion Lutheran Church, Gravelton, MO. (btw- the "sthilary" refers to the fourth century church father St. Hilary of Poitiers, Gaul, today France).

[@timl5282]

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is for the remission (pardon, forgiveness) of sins. ( Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38 & 22:16, Colossians 2:11,12 ) The Bible does say that New Testament Baptism saves us. ( Acts 2:38-40, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16 ) The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is our burial, which is an essential part of the gospel of Death, Burial, and Resurrection. ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 6:3-5, Colossians 2:12 )

[@RomGabe]

Thank you for Law & Gospel!

[@letthecreativityout7521]

I’m soooo thankful that I finally know what baptism means under sound doctrine. The LCMS is the only church body that I know of who preaches this. And even some LCMS churches are starting to be tempted by the devil to take more of an evangelical view, say to see, but the fact alone that it’s evident the devil takes time to whisper lies into the ears of the church about baptism and the Lord’s supper should tell us to stop and question why. Why would the devil want to tempt people away from these sacraments into diminishing the meaning? Because they actually are pricelessly powerful to save and reassurance Christians of grace amidst our sanctification , peace, and salvation. All things of which the devil hates for people to understand.

[@Mygoalwogel]

Thanks for the encouraging comment. I have the same doubts but your comment helps.

[@Dilley_G45]

While LCMS is good, we must not forget WELS and AALC and ELS and Eldona

[@LisaB_12204]

I SO regret my re-baptism. Bad theology is a terrible thing. Thank you, pastor, for all your efforts. May God bless His word and may many poor deluded souls be delivered from such lousy theology that teaches us to be dismissive of Christ's words. Lord have mercy!

[@marshmallowshapedmarshmall8849]

It's a good thing that your "re-baptism" does not taint or take anything away from your baptism or the gifts that God brings to you through that baptism.

[@EROPPER]

you got wet, so, no worries

[@katandpapa]

Can you take time to help us understand why having women as Pastors, etc... is not biblical? Thank you!!!

[@MrGassemann]

Yes please do.

[@williamgammeter5113]

My mom, a pastor, also not too happy about this one. If you believe that God's Word is both inerrant and Holy Spirit written, then our triune God through Paul made it clear...several times in the pastoral (what it means to be a preacher/shepherd of Christ's flock) epistles that "pastors should be husband to only one wife," and that "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over men..." However, the better arguments against women pastors is Genesis, the created order, and the curse of women to desire the headship of their husbands all their days and our lording it over them

[@williamgammeter5113]

So...long story short...we are either to bend knee to Gods word no female pastors...or our rationalism that says women can do anything men can do. Another consideration...God specified in the old covenant who would be the priests...not by gender...rather by being in family of Levite. The real rub is the same...do I do it Gods way...or am I going to do it my way.

[@shoestringfarmer]

Seems to me misconceptions of baptism coming out of the protestant movements that claim baptism is an act of obedience, is based on the idea that Christ sacraments are unnecessary or symbolic and that only man's decisions are necessary and our own works based on an emotional reactions, is the reason why we are baptized.

[@chapagawa]

Actually Orcas might be considered to be the apex predator of the oceans. Either way, great presentation about a touchy subject.; I remember when my brother married a baptist, and we had our pastor over to discuss the sacrament with him.

[@judithtaylor6713]

Pow! I believe. A beautiful and heart touching message. Thank you.

[@redrebelleader-7495]

What do you do with the criminal on the cross? What do you do with Cornelius and his family receiving the Holy Spirit before Baptism? Were these people not saved until Baptism? According to scripture: “In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭ESV‬‬ The gift of the Holy Spirit is what seals us. Why was there a change of Ephesians 5:25 from “the washing OF the word” to “washing AND the word”..?

[@davidortega357]

The difference in One lord One Faith. One baptism eph 4 5 today we 20 ways to get baptized 10 formulas in the new of Trinity in the name of yahua,in the name of Allah. In the name of God in the name of Moses Abraham Issac Jacob Joshua Samuel Jackson Hiawatha there's only ONE. Name Jesus Christ Colossians 3 17

[@Godfrey118]

This topic converted me away from Evangelical/Baptist theology

[@j.sethfrazer]

Symbolic Water Baptism Is USELESS.

[@Josh_Antikainen]

It's good that Baptism isn't only symbolic.

[@nicholastrudeau7581]

I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of Ephesians 5:25-27. Paul is using the words cleansing and water as a metaphor to describe what the Word does to and for our souls. Baptism is an outward response, out of obedience, to an inward decision to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross and victory over death to provide a wrath-appeasing sacrifice and sufficient cleansing of our souls to make us right before God by grace through faith.

[@ProLifeBryce]

Absolutely LOVE this clip! Shared it in Sunday School at Ruthfred Lutheran Church in Bethel Park, PA, today! Thank you, Pastor Wolfmueller!!!

[@bobthrasher8226]

I guess if "baptismal regeneration" is true, then Calvinism cannot be true because Calvinists say regeneration precedes faith.

[@Scott-rf1un]

I've noticed Lutheran focus so much on baptism 24/7 lol

[@Yostyburneraccount]

Please tell us the whole story. I would love the whole story

[@jonathanrocha2275]

Honest question: how do we know that the Ephesians 5 passage is talking about baptism?

[@funnyfun7082]

Washing of water by the word

[@letthecreativityout7521]

I share this video every chance i get.

[@bryantrelfa6211]

THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO. !!!!!

[@checkplz6626]

I was baptized as an infant in a church of a false doctrine. Is that blasphemous (as Communion in that church is)? Shall I get baptized LCMS?

[@PastorBryanWolfmueller]

TailSwishers, here's the answer to your question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npXVfZuOipdmjrs

[@goodoleblue]

"Why do you say that baptism is a work? Does the Bible say that baptism is a work?" I like that!

[@williamgammeter5113]

The Bible says it is Gods work on us to be saved. When I was being raised in Merican Evanjellyism version of Chritianity it was taught that Baptism was an outward sign and first act of obedience...because majority of all denominations have law and gospel so mixed up...that they turn gospel into more law

[@1776iscool]

Can you please do a video on sacraments?

[@bobthrasher8226]

In Eph 5:26, note that the "cleansing" of the church is past tense. So what does the cleansing come before? It comes before Christ's giving of himself verse 25. So if Christ's giving of himself comes AFTER the cleansing, then this giving cannot be as a sacrifice on the cross since we would expect that to be essential to the cleansing. What other ways does Christ give himself which comes after this cleansing? He gives himself in marriage, which, of course, fits the context. So before we can be united with Christ, we need to be "cleansed" which happens in baptism.

[@andrewchase6748]

Some Catholic Said Jesus gives us free will. I said if the Holy Catholic church is the church of Christ Jesus then why teach free will if its not in the BIBLE.

[@martinjohnson1366]

During the Fall, did Adam and Eve act out of free will to sin? I believe that they did rather than the teachings of some humanists that their sin was determined by God (philosophical principle of Determinism) and they had no choice in the matter... That said free will won't get you anywhere except as it did for Adam and Eve in a state of enmity against God. Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith (Heb 12:2). All glory is His. All blame is ours.

[@andrewchase6748]

@@martinjohnson1366 U can not find free will in the Holy Bible.. The bible says this What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Now how do you put free will into that?..

[@andrewchase6748]

@@martinjohnson1366 AND when you say free will which means we humans get to do whatever we want you are saying God has no Power over us therefore we people get to make are own choice and God does not rule over us?.. No NO no that is wrong. Free will is not in Bible. KJV

[@martinjohnson1366]

@@andrewchase6748 "What if God" does not necessarily mean that God did. It's a question, not an affirmation. God is almighty and sovereign. That's the point being made in that the potter (Creator) has all say over the clay (creation). Being a question, it doesn't affirm in any way that God creates people for the sole purpose of damning them in order to prove His sovereignty. And prove it to who? The Bible states that God is good and that God is love. Christ died for all, but God does elect those whom He will save.

[@andrewchase6748]

@@martinjohnson1366 I just gave you a verse and you killed it. Who are you to say that God does not do this or that? God can show his wrath if he wants.

[@1920s]

So good.

[@BibleLovingLutheran]

I’m now a member of LCMS. I wasn’t baptized again and is it necessary? Isn’t it just as valid to look back and now realize these truths that I was ignorant of as an IFB?

[@mrscms831]

Help please. My niece, baptized catholic, has had a baby. Catholic church is giving mom and dad many reasons why they wont perform the baptism. Divorce, non practicing, no official membership, Godparents need to be confirmed Catholics as starters. I said bring her to my church, LCMS, we will baptize her. Let me know if I am correct in telling my niece that we are not baptizing baby into a denomination, but into Jesus Christ, into Christianity. Baptizing baby will not prevent them from raising baby as a Catholic. Pastor, are there any reasons why I should not be encouraging this to happen? My goal is to get baby girl baptized. Thank you for your advice. PS, yes, I am also trying to get the parents and my Pastor connected.

[@joefear]

i am speaking out of my ignorance. There is nothing outwardly done could suffice the Grace of Christ for our Salvation, is not the Baptism done outwardly?

[@swm1700]

Great explanation!

[@lbee8247]

Currently my understanding of the bible is similar to a reformed baptist. Yet your teaching on baptism seems more sola scriptura than what I was taught and previously read. Yet, the baby baptism thing. It's no more sola scriptura than the teaching of baptism being symbolic. It's just not in the scripture period. You have to make a case for it. And anything that needs more than the simplicity of what the bible says I will always struggle with. It's why I struggled in the Baptist teachings of The Lord's supper, missionary work and yes baptism. They make a strong biblical case for why they are done they way we do them but it isn't simply what the bible says. Lutherans do the same extra explaining for baby baptism. I guess no group is truly sola scriptura on everything.

[@c.ramenglientraite44]

I am working on Baptism-Discipleship Relation in Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I find this beneficial. In you have anything that might be helpful, please do let me know. Thanks.

[@angprincesa3793]

Why do some DEDICATE their children instead of or before baptism?

[@judithweik579]

During WWBC today during discussion of the fall/God’s will, did you say that everything that happens is Gods will or did I mis-hear that?

[@vmars316]

International Standard Version "so that he might make it holy by cleansing it, washing it with water and the word," The ISV is the only version that says "with water and the word" , the majority of versions say "by the word" or "with the word" . Even the New International Version says : "to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, " I think it's a stretch to equate washing with Baptism .

[@berthamersma8653]

While you never come right out and say it it appears you believe that a person needs to be baptised to be saved. It also appears that you believe baptisn in itself saves an infant. Am I correct?

[@nyaigo07]

M daughter recently asked me a question who baptized the disciples?

[@triumphonyoutube3659]

But it has to be a valid baptism, which includes the resurrection too !

[@truthwithproof5847]

Want to debate Baptism

[@PastorBryanWolfmueller]

Sure. Send me a email here: www.wolfmueller.co/contact

[@dr.alanhales544]

Bryan Wolfmueller, Why don't people believe what the Bible says about baptism.. Which is by total immersion for believers... Infants cannot believe. Peter never said water baptism saves, he said it's a figure of salvation. And the Greek proves it. The Greek emphasis for "Saved" in Mk 16: 16, is on the "Believing", and Jesus went on to prove it. He said "He that doesn't believe shall be damned". Please note what Jesus didn't say. He didn't say, "He that isn't baptized shall be damned" DID HE?. Peter never said water baptism remits sins, in Acts 2: 38. The Greek says it this way, [And this is the way the people would have heard and understood Peter]. "Repent for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, THEN you can be baptized". Peter never said be baptized for forgiveness of sins in Acts 10, There are three Christian baptisms, [1] The rebirth, [2] the baptism with the Holy Ghost, [3]Water baptism. And you have to know which one the Bible is talking about. and in Rom 6: 3--6. Col 2: 12--13. Is the rebirth, NOT water baptism. To says it's water baptism, is to say water is greater the the Holy Spirit. The "Water" in Jn 3: 5 isn't baptism. Every time that Jesus meant baptism, He clearly said so, but He doesn't mention it in Jn 3: 5. Water is symbolic of the Word. Jn 15: 3. Eph 5: 26. James 1: 18. 1 Pet 1: 22--23. Eph 5: 26 doesn't say by the Word AND baptism, Does it. You are adding to the Bible. So you can see how wrong you are.

[@BenjaminAnderson21]

The irony of accusing someone of 'not believing what the Bible says about baptism,' then in the same breath claiming that there are three Christian baptisms...

[@bobbyfitzgerald7522]

Why did you not receive Baptism then ?

[@maxonmendel5757]

this video is so pre-covid/pre-decon

[@MyHanck]

Thanks Dr Wolfmueller! The impassable difference between a preached God and an in preached God unless the grace of God breaks in delivering the gift of faith!

[@MyHanck]

Unpreached God : typo

[@plattevilleclarks]

I'd be interested in the near re-baptism. A dear brother in the faith stumbled down that path.

[@williamgammeter5113]

The Wolfmueller talks about it in his book Has American Chritianity Failed and in a few of his lectures at Steadfast Lutheran conferences which can be found on KZbin

[@Selahsmum]

If anyone with sound judgement could read this and advise I would so appreciate it. We used to go to an evangekucal church for years that had adult onoy baptism. Now we attend a reform church that does infant baptism but my son is almost 6 and the pastor says I now need to wait for him to be able to have a believers baptism because he is old enough to say he doesnt want to be baptised. Bec the CRC sees baptism as a "means of grace" but not regenerative he sees it as no big deal to wait, but as a parent now quite sure that baptism is in some way regenerative, I worry waiting is irresponsible? Could anyone advise? Especially you, Pastor if you see this- am I denying my son a grace that could affect his eternal destiny should he due before he is able to make a believers confession of faith? Thank you. ❤ (btw to clarify at this point I would rather attend a lutheran church but we live in a rural area with no gospel-beluevibg lutheran denominatiins in driving distance).

[@MphsConservative]

I hadn’t seen any replies to this. I would not wait. God does the work no matter the age! Even if you have to make special arrangements with a Pastor and take a trip to do it. Why wait for God’s blessings ?

[@trinitylutheranchurch-lcms2691]

I am coming to this rather late. Sorry, but I only recently saw it. If he is not already baptized when you read this please respond and I will offer you the advice I have given to another family in a similar situation. Pastor Rick Pettey

[@sparky4581]

Question. I want to note believe in baptism. How do you place the man next to Jesus on the cross in this situation? Jesus said to him, "today you will be with me in paradise". They were baptizing with John's baptism around this time. Can you give a little clarity? Thank you.

[@efraimlicod6480]

Friend this situation was absolutely especial because at that time they were hang on the cross and the important thing is the man admitted that he is a sinner and ask for forgiveness. Babtism is a command by our Lord Jesus as he said to the apostle,, Go to every nation and teach them the Gospel and baptized them in the name of the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit.

[@stevencarter6194]

That is a great question. Since we are not God, we cannot know exactly how he dealt with this situation, but there are several possibilities. 1) The Great Commission had not yet been given (Matthew 28:18-20). Therefore baptism was not yet instituted in the Church. The way of salvation would be through faith as with Abraham and the patriarchs. At the time of the criminal's death Christ was already dead but not risen. Another reason for the use of the Old Testament plan of salvation. (Romans 4) 2) Acts 2:38 - At Pentecost Peter gave the command to be baptized for the forgiveness of sins. Similar to case 1, the command occurs after the death on the cross. 3) This was a special case where God/Jesus made an exception based on the circumstances. (The least likely in my opinion.) Note: The Great Commission and Pentecost call for baptism in the name of Christ, not John the Baptist.

[@nathanlaska3322]

"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16 In regards to the man next to Jesus on the cross, he believed. Let the exceptions be the exceptions

[@youtubecensors5419]

Except, the baptism was a work by your parents so...

[@Mygoalwogel]

How is that an objection? Translating the Bible accurately, printing, distributing, and then preaching it is way more work than baptizing somebody. But that doesn't seem to bother people who believe in faith alone.

[@thomasclyde3036]

Please explain how Baptism is a work of the parents and not of God.

[@tory5325]

Thank you!

[@GaryJ316]

What Bible translation do you use brother or what one do you recommend?

[@iancampbell1494]

The lcms officially uses the ESV, I don’t know if that is his preference though. I’d say get a few translations, I own the esv the kjv, the new kjv, and a nsv Catholic 2nd edition. If that sounds daunting to you, download a bible app and you can have them all, blue letter bible is a good one to look at imo. What I would say for sure is avoid summarized versions.

[@Dilley_G45]

@@iancampbell1494 the ESV is often associated with the reformed churches which are calvinists. Pastor Sullivan ("Ask the Pastor", ELDONA Lutheran) supports the NKJV and the ELS supports also the EHV

[@Dilley_G45]

You can use NASB 1977 or 1995 edition....NKJV and KJV and ESV without hesitation. You must avoid any paraphrase and gender neutral modern ones.....avoid NIV...TNIV....NRSV....message....passion "translation"...NWT...

[@caelachyt]

Yet the thief wasn't baptized.

[@RomGabe]

Yet, the thief was made a special promise. You hAVEN'T received the same promise from Jesus. Believe that Baptism == Jesus and it saves!

[@caelachyt]

@@RomGabe _ Looks to me that he received the same promise as stated in John 6:40. I see nothing in the Word that shows it to be "special".

[@christopherdunham2637]

I was baptized in a Lutheran Church as an infant. Later I left the Lutheran Church and was baptized by immersion. I now know I was wrong. I'm back to a Lutheran Church but did I deny the faith when I was rebaptized? Another lutheran pastor on KZbin says that you cease to be a Christian when you get rebaptized.

[@rlcpd]

We believe in ONE Baptism...............

[@garyscalf2225]

Bryan I love your heart for the LORD, and your zeal; I loved hearing your journey on Baptism for it sounds so much like my journey. I think your right Bryan there is a lot of confusion about baptism; but I would have say, that baptizing infants is part of that confusion and shows us that we really don't fully understand baptism. I am open for further dialogue if possible.

[@davidortega357]

The Devil loves Confusion his against truth he loves division he loves false religion fig leaves Jesus said beware many shall come in my Name Matthew 28 19 was Changed by the RCC in second century it originally was written like this go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in my Name the phrase. I n. My Name is written 17; times in new testament Trinity was a latter development

[@davidortega357]

You will not find in the name of the father in the son in the name of the holy ghost only once