What's the deal with Viego? || character review (League of Legends)

[@Tuskor130]

TB Skyen: *sensual explanation of why viego is so wrong and feels so good* Also TB Skyen, seconds later: Viego's a fuckboy

[@TBSkyen]

the duality of man

[@raffierutomo8948]

Still can’t believe his corpse manages to keep the six pack for thousands of years

[@jeremyvanauken5011]

It’s from all the crying he does, heavy sobbing is a real core workout

[@sortacoolmaybe]

No exercise but also no food lol

[@Patmax17]

Must have been eating the same rats Sylas got

[@pavelandonov3345]

Worms eat the fat first

[@helloitsowen6639]

8... pack

[@RedDotPink]

When TBskyen was describing Viego during the 'What makes Viego hot' I- i FELT THINGS

[@kamvas4803]

s a m e

[@maiolena]

😳

[@cusarov328]

like maaaan it catch me out of nowhere

[@filthyracoon9339]

lol *he knows*

[@FulgurHalcyon]

6:44 replay button

[@lukasbright201]

“What does it sound like when he gasps?” Bro I was NOT ready for that I think I short-circuited for a moment there 💀💀💀

[@supernaturalwitch5265]

Same

[@emptybanana2126]

read this comment beforehand so i knew it was coming but i still wasn't prepared. jesus skyen 💀

[@NitroBacter90]

I was at work listening to this and i gasped too XD

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Fuckin same

[@sarahcole9661]

Me when that part came up: “The fuck? Okay!? _shocked laughter_”

[@MoonyMoonzzi]

Honestly in the case of Viego, his design is great and actually really creative if you understand the archetype that he is. There are so many lich tragic ruined king stories. Instead we have a pathetic little man who believes he is the greatest man in the world, an overgrown child who believes to be a Prince Charming, a tragic ruined story of a man created by an unfair system brought up by a kingdom doomed to fall. Someone who should NOT have as much power and appeal but who HAS and that fact is terrifying. I really love my boy. Also a detail, his sword is used without mastery. It reads as someone who uses a sword for its meaning and power, but instead of using it with artistry and technique they use it like a child playing with a stick.

[@user-er6oz7sl7c]

Wattpad wants their love interest back-

[@g33kaholic24]

This literally had me dead and I had to find the common again just to like it because I appreciate it that much

[@pavelandonov3345]

Great comment!

[@teradul2480]

TBSkyen describing how Viego seduces you, was more seductice than anything else I've experienced.

[@thekasura8712]

I felt that. Yes.

[@usernameplaceholder3]

Yeah I was sitting here like OKAY

[@ozberryy3428]

the asmr

[@androshernandez7515]

Bro I felt the same and I’m a guy😂

[@teradul2480]

@@androshernandez7515 so am I, man. A straight guy, on top of that.

[@noukan42]

Viego AKA, when the shadow isles went from Dark Soul to Final Fantasy

[@bubaelbubiel3984]

Darling, Final Fantasy villains from past few games, especially nonhuman ones had gorgeous design, go check FFXIII l'cie

[@noukan42]

@@bubaelbubiel3984 you are not wrong, it is not that Viego being Nomurian is bad. Is that having a Nomurian villain in an otherwise "gritty" region feels out of place. I could see a Viego-like villain in Noxus quite well(in fact i heard theories that maybe Vladimir and Viego are related), in the Shadow Isles, not so much.

[@bubaelbubiel3984]

@@noukan42 I completely agree with you on that, I really wish Shadow Isles' "Final Boss" was something mesmerizing and otherworldly. The other thing Im afraid of is the land where Viego comes from. We have only 2 characters representing Camavor, and they're one of the most anime/gacha characters in league history. I don't mind anime skins etc. but I feel bad for lol artists and writers forced to disrupt the cultural integrity of Runeterra

[@orbitrons6731]

@@noukan42 Its not just a theory. Vladimir is canonically Viegos uncle

[@manhuman328]

Viego describe as weak and pethetic king that can't rule and easy to manipulate so making him a skinny guy without bulking armor make sense could you imagine his design resemble the looks of mordekaiser

[@benjaminlo9783]

Therapist: Long Viego doesn't exist he can't hurt you. Long Viego: 26:30

[@centurosproductions8827]

It's kind of funny that he still wants her after she *literally tore his heart out.* Though I guess if he actually remembered that Isolde killed him, the Ruinations would never stop.

[@paulgibbon5991]

Never has someone more badly needed to hear "She's just not that into you."

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

Take the hint, buddy!

[@crisendeep178]

1) He didn't remember it. 2) She was out of her mind.

[@Hamlettte]

Before Viego was shown, I always thought he was a king gone mad because of grief over the death of his beloved, but now he is a king gone mad because he lost the object of his obsession

[@dankmemes8254]

My biggest issue for me with him is that he doesn't look like a king at all

[@Hamlettte]

@@dankmemes8254 which is accurate because he didn't want to be king in the first place

[@dankmemes8254]

@@Hamlettte it makes sense lore wise but like skyen said he looks nothing similar to mind

[@creaketh]

@@dankmemes8254 I was expecting a mix of Aatrox and Mordekaiser/Karthus but instead we just got Danny Phantom with big spooky sword..

[@kogorun]

A boy who lost his toy

[@alejandropetit6573]

That way of explaining how viego sees himself Is genius, i never really thought about his own point of view of his own actions and he seeing himself as a hero

[@peteomarjebdollosa9170]

I mean yeah, that's pretty basic villain writing.

[@Cosiek7]

He has some quotes when he says for example ,,You're not the hero of this tale. You are not anything!" and I believe some others.

[@jeremiemarion3966]

It's the point of ruling classes, they see themselves as saviors, Hitler himself viewed himself that way as the savior of Germany. Usually people in power tend to falsify reality and hence the vision of themselves, you get a large amount of example: "this war is just", "we're saving the country from a threat", "there are weapons of mass destruction". They lie to others to hide their true goals, and in the end wraped in their own world believe the lies they told to justify their action. Look at Joe Biden, he voted for the Irak war and said he would do it again. He probably won't present any excuse for the hundred of thousands that died, and probably will never care. But even if you don't look at historical examples, this is what a french youtuber call the Magneto syndrome, the aim is good in principle, like for Magneto or Thanos, but the means and the lies they tell themselves to go through their action just serve themselves to excuse their violence and path of death. This is why the best villains are never "pure evil" type of villain, they're people that twist reality to their own advantage, Viego is suffering, yet "he wants to save Isolde", or so he says, whereas in reality he just want his suffering to end and go back to where he was before he doesn't care about Isolde, he cares about how he felt when he was with her which is not the same.

[@MandiocaMagica]

My therapist: fantasy asmr skyen is not real, he can't seduce you Fantasy asmr skyen: 9:33 💀

[@cameronjellison2085]

Long Viego isn’t real he can’t hurt you Long viego: 26:33

[@polnareffisfrench7142]

YO IT LOWKEY MADE ME FEEL THINGS AND I'M A *MAN*

[@kurkovoin7906]

@@polnareffisfrench7142 same

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

Not kinkshaming but personally, if I wanted a hot villain with red flags, Viktor is right there

[@SugarTheBee]

*Me in the corner, somehow simping over Aurelion Sol* ...I beg to differ.

[@hydrokazuha5421]

​​@@SugarTheBeeso real😭😭

[@KeitieKalopsia]

We’re on the same team with this

[@venenametacoenubia450]

This aged like milk nowadays Viktor is one of the greenest flags out there

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

@venenametacoenubia450 I don't play league I just heard he wants to change my body

[@ImVeryHongry]

Can't wait for Viego to find all of Isolde like he's trying to summon Exodia 💀

[@Horde1Blades]

Isoldia

[@vali_bg5234]

@@Horde1Blades OBLITERATE!

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

@@Horde1Blades ITS NOT POSSIBLE

[@hailsatan6678]

Bro needs all the dragon balls

[@saltytoast6669]

Maybe they could have made the triangle at his heart an actual nasty gaping hole that came out all the way thru the back. And when u look into that hole, it looks like it goes on for ever. That could add a nice creepiness to him that contrasts nicely with the rest of him. Also he could have like a mist cape.

[@xidjav1836]

I like the idea of him being similarr to Fos from fore emblem where only select few parts are decade and held together by the mist, or at the very least he should've been the mosr twisted and tangled person of the mist

[@trickjump19]

@@xidjav1836 feel like you're right about this, i felt like he should've looked kind of like xerath/mordekaiser, parts held together by a sort of energy.

[@xidjav1836]

@@trickjump19 well for me i would differentiate by him having a constant flow of the mist from his ribcage if they want to go full emo then it should be his blackend heart devoid of life and colour maybe his face is peeling away held only by the mist. In short incorporate the mist more i to his design since he is the originator of the mist he could easily be immune to its symptoms

[@void_watcher1737]

One thing I want to say to your comment. "NO CAPES" (Edna Mode)

[@Ajehy]

I like the mist cape, but I think his “fleshiness” is actually great. It contrasts with the ghostly aesthetic of the rest of the Shadow Isles, and tells you that he’s different. He’s not dead, not completely. He was stabbed by the sword meant to keep him alive, while standing in the Waters of Life. He’s trapped between life and death, in a cycle of torment and obsession, so making him look truly undead wouldn’t work.

[@Gamemaster13000]

Everyone being horny about how Skyen describes Viego's toxic hotness have both completely missed the point of that segment and very much so got the point of that segment.

[@Ajehy]

Exactly. I hate that trope (the toxic, abusive, obsessive love interest), but his ASMR reading still got my panties in a twist. What I love about Viego, though, is that he’s PORTRAYED as the absolute psychotic asshole he is. He’s not Edward Cullen or Christian Gray, where that obsession is painted as a good thing. He is so toxic he literally destroys everything he touches, and Isolde explicitly wants nothing to do with him anymore. He’s hot, but that in no way excuses his behavior, and the narrative reflects that. I find that a refreshing change.

[@anastasiadrozdova1192]

@@Ajehy just wait until they come up with some sweet healing redemption arc for him in the future, lol.

[@paulgibbon5991]

@@anastasiadrozdova1192 I guarantee you'll be able to find dozens of fanfics which have already done just that.

[@inkchip7351]

@@paulgibbon5991 47 as of writing

[@azurabbit12]

​@@anastasiadrozdova1192 that'd require they actually update the lore

[@Firecell777]

Skyen: And the endpoint of designing for appeal, ultimately will be gacha game aesthetics Me: *looks at Gwen* we're too late 💀

[@Siecyl]

At least the yordle will look different.... I hope

[@mr.mc.doesntexist7693]

@@Siecyl oh god the furries will go nuts lmaoooo.

[@weegee9616]

@@mr.mc.doesntexist7693 its yuumis master because book has the shadow isles page ripped out of it. (Norra)

[@konradklukowski1009]

At least we have the old void.

[@perapapic3683]

@@konradklukowski1009 i mean Kai'Sa did fuck thet up the onlye thing she brings to the table is thet she is Kasadin's daughter. I mean she is the amine girl from the void thet stoll Kha'Zix evolution thing and hes theam.

[@alexbomar3137]

I like the usage of Evelynn's theme at 7:33 while talking about how Viego "sees you". It really adds that extra layer of dangerous desire that you are trying to portray.

[@Ajehy]

I want to see these two meet; the toxic romantic “hero” and the femme fatale. Battle of the unhealthy sex fantasies!

[@spectre7769]

@@Ajehy now I’m curious, would Evelynn take the form of Isolde if she sees Viego? She’s a shape shifting sex demon and it’s canon she becomes what the victim wants the most right? That would be Isolde to viego. And since viego “loves” her so much he has a helluva lot of pain to give eve if she does the orgasm switcheroo thing and reveal she’s actually a demon and not his wife then murder him.

[@grotesquette6536]

@@Ajehy Evelyn would clear his ass

[@Hi-fw3yk]

@@spectre7769 can't find the tweet but im pretty sure the writer confirmed that Evelynn's charms wouldn't work on Viego.

[@GMathieson]

One thing I like about the tension in Viego's various stances is that yes it communicates hostility but it's also... defensive? Guarded? He's not just goal-oriented, he also comes across as constantly expecting and ready to react to an attack from any quarter, his resentment at the world for taking and keeping his beloved from his coalescing into a perpetual and reflexive readiness to strike back at a world he expects to hurt him further. Oh, and 💀

[@zholyker]

*Therapiest* : _Long Viego doesn't exist, he can't hurt you._ *The long Viego* : 27:44

[@R_AM02]

I think the story also fits another thing. Stories like beauty and the beast were made because in those societies, women rarely got a choice in who they married. Because of this, men didnt have to act right or respect their partners, and therefore lots of men tended to be extremely abusive. So from a very young age the idea of "you can fix him" was hammered into the minds of girls and women. You can fix him, you can make a prince out of the beast, over and over and those women really couldn't, but that idea kept most of them from "attempting unalive" (I don't know if I can say that). I think that's a really cool thing, it pulls from history and you see get to see the horrible truth hiden behind those fantasies. Even today the idea that you can make an abusive partner better can cause problems, so I think it's cool that they made him like that

[@silverun280]

You know you could make a "toxic boyfriend tells you you're his entire world" asmr-esque video, and it would be another bomb. You have the power. Now decide 🤐

[@mariostoynov]

I would love to see that, but I doubt he will do it. There have been people acting weird in the past and this would just give them an incentive to act weird again.

[@shirosaki15]

Ikr!

[@endre7984]

That would've been such a nice vid for aprils fools.

[@theodoregabranth1800]

That would be lovely

[@esukgfjyijlgul5335]

Viego did nothing wrong

[@wolfgangromine8341]

After the “why is he hot” section I felt something and I kind of find Viego attractive now 😳.

[@dukeg.rabbit368]

I still do not care for Viego but TB can get it if he keeps on whispering in my ear like that

[@jon9828]

Seconded. On both counts.

[@belphegren2062]

Felt this

[@quitted7276]

An unstoppable force against a very moveable object.

[@veermudambi5795]

She might have loved him but also, I suspect, to large degree was terrified of him. He’s unstable, obsessive and holds absolute power over her. Unlike a noblewoman, she didn’t even have any sort of political backing of her own to stand up to him. Overall, I see serious abusive partner vibes but in a way more insidious manner. Just like you said around 8:30 it’s a type of madness that pulls you in and *makes you feel responsible for it.*

[@acehealer4212]

“Depressive Demon Nightmare Boy 💀” isn’t my “type” either, but I am pretty glad Riot decided to go that route with the Ruined King instead of making, like, Mordekaiser 3.0 or something. I can’t wait for the Runied King game. I want this twunk obliterated.

[@drguthrie7621]

I like that Riot is portraying Viego and his relationship with Isolde as being abussive, one-sided, and more based on control than love. It is way more interesting than it just being a tragic love story. Isolde wouldn't dare so no, and when she finally was free from him he destroyed an entire sacred isle to bring her back. It is so interesting that they really decided to make Viego kind of pathetic when alive and terrifyingly obsessive when dead. I think they absolutely nailed Viego, it is an amazing release IMO!

[@megatennepster3833]

Yeah, Viego's visual design is... decent, and likable, but his lore blows everyone out the water.

[@GabrielCarvv]

His visual design could've been better but his lore is great.

[@drguthrie7621]

I honestly don't mind his visual design, I think it fits the idea they were going for a lot better, Viego was young, selfish, vain, and a horrible kindg. The fact that he looks like such pampered prince and in a brooding way really fits is pathetic hopless romantic vibe they are going for to me. If he was more monstrous I would have a hard time seeing that and if he looked more royal it would give a more sophisticated kingly look and Viego is anything but kingly.

[@darkfox1861]

Yeah he is one of my favorite champs also one of the only champs who’s lore I looked up

[@handsoaphandsoap]

I think people just still have that preconception we are forcefed in childhood that attractive people are automatically good and worthy of trust while unattractive people aren’t, when the opposite is often the case. Viego is the suburban husband abusing his wife behind the curtains, Viego is the frat boy who gets a slap on the wrist by the justice system after being accused of several sexual misdemeanors, Viego is the boss who “lays off” his female staff after they return from maternity leave, Viego is the politician sponsored by gun production companies who gets away with tax fraud. I personally applaud Riot for designing an attractive villain and portraying his actions pretty unambiguously as villainous.

[@MissSam]

"a skull emoji" Thank you, that was a really good video!

[@stupidbluegoblin77]

Ngl, Viego's idle animation, with the tension and the posture and the way his chest sort of heaves as opposed to the more understated rise and fall of someone whose breathing is relaxed, kinda looks like he's gonna burst into tears at any second.

[@renzbaluyot5953]

Viego is a wattpad fan fic but in the lol universe and i love it

[@silvraanctuary]

dinka's reaction to viego was so iconic i cant forget her reaction lmaoooo

[@HeroADI1]

Some of Viego's quotes say the possibility that Isolde is, in fact, the Maiden from Yorick's ultimate ability. If this is true, is interesting for the fact that, even if he kills Yorick and take his body, and still can't summon the Maiden.

[@kunibertrandolf1886]

My guess: Isolde DID love him at first and was happy in their relationship as I guess that the outside didn't know of what a failure their second prince was. But as she lived with him, she saw more and more what Viego really was, abondoning his duty, dooming his country and trying to permanently "buy" Osolde with gifts as to secure her staying with him. While she might have truly loved him, she soon realized that his love was purely obsessive, not romantic. Realizing her situation, she fled into her craft and stayed shut in, sewing all day. That in returned only fired up Viegos possession problem, trying more and more to have Isolde in his hands. Gwen was present as a puppet and saw all his obsession and anger towards Isolde growing more distant the more Viego tried to appeal to her, reflected in her voiceline "When I was a pupped, I wanted to fight" and "She hasn't forgotten you. I haven't forgiven you" Then Isolde got poisoned, maybe by accident maybe she begged for an intruder to stab her in an attemt to escape him, we only know the story Viego knows. Viego then brought her and the Gwen-Doll to the blessed isles in an attemt to save her, bringing her dearest possessions along. But as he revived Isolde, the pain of resurrection and conflicting emotions towards her husband made Isolde stab him. The clashing magic of sword and blessed water made her soul break into pieces shortly afterwards that then searched for save spaces and one piece went to her favourite doll, Gwen, while the other flew to partly unknown places. At that time, the ships of his army sunk by the explosion of the black mist, as we see in puppet Gwen sinking in water in her teaser. The part left behind of Isolde was the lady of the mist, an accumulation of Isoldes raw anger and unreasonable, emotional part while the concious parts got spread over runeterra. Gwen can't sense Isolde btw as in Senna voiceline "You mist is neither good nor bad" and also doesn't know about what happened to Isolde as she was on the ship while the ruination went down, again reflected in her voicelines "Wherever she is, I hope she is happy"

[@ekkehard8]

Why do a lot of people bet against their love being happy? I need someone to tell me the logical conclusion to an obsessive love

[@kunibertrandolf1886]

@@ekkehard8 Because Viego is an obsessive, heartless scumbag that doomed an entire nation for his selfish desires- that isn't really a basic character for a happy love story. And what do you mean with "logical conclusion"? Would be happy to answer but I don't really get what u mean

[@ekkehard8]

@@kunibertrandolf1886 They say it *can't* end well. I'm puzzled because I only see it as very likely to end poorly. By my understanding this would be the case something comes between them or they fall put of love, which is common. But I still think they can possibly indulge in both the fantasy of being obsessively loved and obsessively loving long term; they could even change this volatile behavior in the future. How are people so certain this is not a possibility? Edit: And thank you for answering the first question, it was succinct. What I understood is that people don't root for him because he is a bad person.

[@kunibertrandolf1886]

@@ekkehard8 Well of course we don't know how it goes yet but the hints so far overwhelmingly hint to their love not ending mutual, even questioning if it was mutual to begin with. Viegos story tells a story of "love at first sight" with everything being perfect without mentioning Isoldes side a single time. No she was happy, no she loved it, nothing. The narrator seems to be edged towards Viegos pov and while pointing him out to be selfish, he never looks at any other side to it. We know the kingdom fell but never do we read "and they hated him for it" or get any emotion from anyone. It passively draws the picture of a nihilistic person simply lacking the understanding of other peoples emotions, thus nothing but HIS feelings are mentioned in his bio. It just hints towards him and conclusively the story completely misinterpreting their love. Next, the very sane and concious part of Isolde that inherited Senna constantly warned them about the mist and Viego coming to search her. She seems to be sane and reasonable and actively tried to get away from Viego, crying out as she was ripped from Senna. I think that this confirmes their current relationship of viego being a manic nutcase, wanting to obtain Isolde for his personal gain(obviously), rather than getting a mutual lover back for the best of both. And while we do not know about their "early" love, is just seems natural that a hard working peasant, suddenly pulled into the castle to watch the kingdom and inevitably their family perishing from the balcony would NOT be on the side of her husband.

[@el0quinn]

"made Isolde stab him" um that's not taking responsibility for ur own failures in a relationship. TBH Viego deserves better

[@Deadeye7177]

9:30 - 9:57 "Sir, this is a Chipotle."

[@mati3271]

Can't wait for the 💀darktimes💀 when Riot makes too many hot guys and people will rage over a lack of cute waifu releases. That would be interesting.

[@Horde1Blades]

wait 3 years give or take.

[@teodoraristic822]

The good timeline

[@el0quinn]

based

[@AzerunAeducan]

Ok so the storyline of Viego is pretty fun, but Gwen is the last nail on the Gacha aestethic's coffin for me 💀

[@kaizu8326]

Just fcking give her buttons as eyes, or maybe turn her skin into fabric. Her silhouette is already good, her main body being all fluffy and circly and soft, which gives her the nice and kind person vibes that she got from Isolde's soul, contrasted with that massive snippy snip scissors. Like jeez riot, her design doesn't read "oh I'm a doll that was brought life by the soul of my creator", instead she looks like "awww anon that was so cute. You wouldn't mind if tie you up and peg you with my scissors, right?"

[@alias-yv2ro]

Yeah I agree Gwen should look a little more doll like, but I can also kinda see where riot is going when they say that doing stuff like giving her buttons for eyes would make let look a little like orianna? But still that’s no excuse, they could still add stuff like add more stitches to her face, making it more raggedy-ann and less pretty girl

[@alias-yv2ro]

Steel Barz actually I’m fairly sure that riot WAS considering giving her buttons and stuff, but that somehow got lost through development

[@kaizu8326]

@@alias-yv2ro oof. It's always like that. Look at the concept art for kaisa and that should tell you about the creative work in riot. So. Many. Good. Designs. Are. Lost. In. The. Development. Absolutely disrespectful to the creative artists

[@MichaelThompson-ux6nn]

@@kaizu8326 tbh I think her silhouette is boring with very little breaking up her over all design. She shares the same silhouette as qiyana another champion with the gacha character feel. I wish they would've messed with her proportions more to give him some interest instead of large circle on top of triangle

[@khanhduongmacgia2662]

His title is "The Ruined King" for a reason.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

My art brain: Viego the ruined king is a bland hot boy design and they could have done so much more with the concept if they just tried. My other art brain part: Hehe hot villain goes brrrrrrr

[@ildathet]

at least he could have gone with a better armor; not this mess

[@thechainwarden]

Now you see why the tiddy babes are popular. You can not defeat the power of horni.

[@kaizu8326]

Srsly tho, when I was reading the lore or when I'm in game and I hear "The Ruined King" or "The Blade of The Ruined King", I imagined a towering pack of meat, wounded by the past, wielding a sword so powerful that it cursed an entire island, or a tall old man with his flesh withering away, and his royalty falling apart, but he couldn't die yet. That old man had one job left to do, and that is to find his dead wife. But the riot gives us an emo boi that looks like Bury The Light from DMC5 will be his theme song

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@kaizu8326 I imagined a decrepit black knight, skeletal underneath the suit or something. The other idea my brain also had was this shadow encased undead prince/king that is barely held together by the shadows and his obsession

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@kaizu8326 Oh! Another thing they could have done They could have designed him to look like a typical hero, but just a bit off. To match how Viego sees himself To bring his ego to the forefront but then have the heroic look contrast and clash with his actions.

[@Jjaeger_H]

Okay, the whole "why is Viego hot?" section gave me goosebumps and made me...feel things not gonna lie, definitely made me look at Viego differently. And it's that same concept the reason I like crazy girls/yanderes, definitely not something I want in reality but just as a fantasy...yeah there's something I just can't deny about it I hadn't thought about modernity clashing with fantasy until now but I definitely see what you mean and the dissonance it'd cause in people. Personally I've never really minded it especially since I think he looks really cool and his armor in the fog is awesome though. And also it's true that while I like appeal and good looking characters and don't mind it at all, I really believe that of all the games League is the one that needs it the absolute LEAST, the game is already huge. I think more than anyone else they can make more out-there and unorthodox ideas

[@WilBotYT]

Every video on KZbin should have a "How is Viego Hot?" section tbh 💀

[@dentredjeluringen6831]

This guy always reminds me of Erik XIV of Sweden, sometimes called "the mad king" who defied his court by marrying a commoner and ended up being deposed by his brother. Also it is said that he was really hot.

[@orbitrons6731]

Yeah Erik XIV was also kinda paranoid and ended up killing quite a few nobles of prominent families, because the stars said they were conspiring against him. Now its very possible that they were actually conspiring against him, he wasnt all that liked as you said, but the stars most likely played no role in that lol

[@flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469]

All the whispering about the love story Virgo would grant you was killing me, but all was forgiven with the Kermit voice at 11 minutes

[@mirkouv]

the switches from evelynn's theme music to sheer comedy is just gold

[@Vanity3_]

I like how his boots kind of bulge in the back of the thigh, it reminds me of goat legs like the devil sometimes has

[@NeverWhorget]

The power dynamic between Isolde and Viego is a huge red flag. The myths of the gods (or goddesses) as well as the stories of kings having some interest in a person of lower position... It's terrifying...

[@xidjav1836]

Eros and Pshyce would be the closest kind to not fucked. But I'd rather see them actually love and care for one another, yeah he maybe overly focused on his wife but at least he does the minimum required from a king at the very least. But then something broke them, the slow death of Isolde, the grief quickly consumed him in a desperate panic he was easilly manipulated by his general that he's suspicous of. And when Isolde finally got revived, her confusing and wrath from him taking her peacful end. Keep in mind that this is my headcanon, I basically wanted to see Viego oggling Isolde but gives enough fucks gor his country to at least rile with the minimum required of him

[@garreonlefay6703]

oh yeah, the rape culture in Greek mythology......I can't believe I just said rape culture....but its not really wrong. Have you seen how many "lovers" didn't want anything to do with gods? Much less the sex? The list is very long. Eros and Psique is the tamest of all stories, heck Hades and Persephone is another!

[@Ajehy]

@@garreonlefay6703 - It doesn’t help that, in Ancient Greek art, the visual symbolism for “marriage” was literally the same as for “kidnapping”. Look at vase paintings. And yeah, it’s fucked up that Hades gets all the rap for following Zeus’s advice in kidnapping Persephone (and then being a loyal husband), while Zeus is lauded for far worse behavior. Yes, Zeus was a god of masculine fertility in an age where women didn’t matter, but the fact that Disney shows him as a good divine dad and Hades as Satan 2.0 is just WRONG.

[@garreonlefay6703]

@@Ajehy it is heartwarming to see how much Red and Blue from OSP teach. You are forgetting something though. Zeus was Persephone's father and he gave the ok for the kidnapping...heck he was the one that gave Hades the idea. The only person that gave Hades a fair shake is, ironically seeing as OSP was mentioned, Rick Riordan. In the books Hades is an overworked deity who is swamped in work up, down, left, right, front, back and center. He doesnt really care about the politics happening in Olympus and he is the only God that kept the Oath....partially because he was still grieving the death, via thunderbolt, of his human lover, Maria Di Angelo. Another fun Fact, he is the least unfaithful God and only looks for a lover, when he can't stand the loneliness of his realm after Persephone goes to her mother....and even then it's a lot of time before that happens.... I won't get into the dumpster fire that were the movie adaptations....because, once again Hades is defined as simply an antagonist and only wants the damm bolt instead of recovering his Helm

[@esukgfjyijlgul5335]

Nah viego did nothing wrong

[@KholfinnaKillerKitty]

09:30 HOW DARE YOU seduce me with you voice like that!

[@yellowtheyellow]

fr tho

[@yukikaze6380]

I laughed so hard at that part

[@NeoLeDalmatine]

I am getting kinda worried with the art direction League is going with it's characters lately 💀

[@gibbyboi5703]

Yeah the last splash art looking splash art is samira, and everything else looks like a goddamn fan art

[@orbitrons6731]

@@gibbyboi5703 Nah Rell was pretty cool ngl

[@Malthanis_]

I'm honestly rather disappointed in Viego being *The Ruined King*. I don't know what I expected, to be entirely honest, which has led me to the conclusion that the act of actually explaining the Shadow Isles beyond myth and legend was a mistake. At the very least, for a character that should be incredibly powerful and imposing, I don't think he necessarily has a place outside of a single-player game (where he can be appropriately characterized within the context of the game itself). 💀

[@noukan42]

I don't think it is necessarily impossible. In DOTA invoker is supposed to be incredibly powerful, and this is conveyed trough the fact that he is indeed overpowered, but is gated by requiring an absurd amount of skill, both mechanically and tactically, to be used to it's full potential. Basically the way to do that is to allow them to be as overpowered as their lore describe them, but gating such power to some limitation, such has by making them very challenging to play or giving them their full power only late in the game. In MtG terms, they should be "Timmy" champions.

[@SkyBlueMistGhost]

Skyen is describing Viego in a way that is very convincing. Like yeah.. I would make that mistake. Thanks Edit: 💀

[@EepyAmico]

Viego our favorite smad yandere bf 💀

[@sockietockie]

Yandere simulator has seen better days

[@xidjav1836]

Ahhhhh, so that's why I like him. I'll be honest here, if he was a female, his obsession would be seen as "smexy" instead of "Ew no unforgivable emo toxic trashbag"

[@yellowtheyellow]

@@xidjav1836 there are communities out there where the sexy takes precedence, believe me. I forget sometimes that there are yandere characters who aren’t men tbh

[@Ajehy]

@@yellowtheyellow Exactly. Fanart, fanfiction... you just need to find the right parts of the internet. People (mostly girls) drool over Sephiroth and willfully ignore the whole “genocide” thing. I was right there when I was a teenager, believe me. Also, I wanna see Viego vs Evelyn. Like she turns into Isolde to mess with him, and he just goes NUTS.

[@iwatchstuffs7933]

Sacrificing everything for love. Viego literally taking it seriously

[@Ajehy]

Everything but himself.

[@louc.6735]

TBSkyen: so this is why Viego is hot Me, knowing the routine because my league husbando is Aatrox:

[@arly803]

This video made me super self conscious of my posture

[@srenholter2405]

☠️ Damn I just hope when Isolde finally drops presumably at the end of the year she's somewhat closer to that runeterra card art that was leaked ago where she's sitting on a giant amalgamation of wraiths. That would look rad as hell.

[@monitaroy7462]

oh boy the league yandere fanfic community on tumblr is gonna have a field day 💀

[@mastermind42ful]

I'm very confident in my sexuality but I don't think I've ever been more certain that I am in fact a lesbian through and through as I was when I was subjected to the "How is Viego hot?" section of the video and had to physically stop myself from puking in my mouth

[@mastermind42ful]

@@lordoftempest9617 thank you!

[@TBSkyen]

Happy to be of assistance :)

[@cheshirefiend]

I am always reminded of Yahtzee's Shadow of the Colossus review whenever I think of Viego. To quote: "This is what they call true love apparently, something I've always felt is virtually indistinguishable from brain damage." Honestly I like Viego as a different take on a leader character for League, specifically one who is incompetent, completely bonkers, and utterly lacking in moral complexity or merit as a ruler. Who do we already have? Mordekaiser: Terrifying ancient warlord that the world fears the return of. Swain: A Machiavellian mastermind who holds the future of his nation in the highest regard and is effectively what happens if you cross Gul'Dan and Tywin Lannister. Karma: A spiritual leader with centuries of wisdom by nature of being a gestalt being. Azir: Someone who also was never intended to take the throne but proved to be an excellent leader (if a bit too dedicated to waiting for a big surprising gesture). Jarvan IV: Umm... Well I'm sure he'll pull his head out of his arse at some point. At least some percentage of Demacia likes him. Probably. And the list goes on. A love stuck madman/ idiot who acts as the center of a maelstrom of undeath and horror is rather interesting. I do think his overall design is a bit too modern for my tastes though. Good thing he's dead cause those pants would absolutely cut off circulation to his legs every time he sat down.

[@jimmymcrustleson3044]

Skyen really has an incredible voice, I could listen to him talk about character design for hours! (And i usually do 💀 )

[@BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr]

I love how some people found how he describes Viego attractive mean while I find it creepy and it just makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. Although the fact that I'm aroace probably has something to do with that. :D

[@RecurringExtra]

"A skull emoji" Damnit, this joke was already made by an early viewer. Well still, great video. Excited for more Bloodborne stuff, although I've been enjoying the League content a ton.

[@Laur_Stefan]

STOP MAKIN' US HÖRNÍ IM HERE MAKIN' BREAKFAST C'MON MAN✨

[@Ajehy]

Yeah, baby, cook them sausages 😏

[@averylarsen2511]

I have to say, with the context of Arcane being a thing now, I sure hope a season of Arcane touches on Viego. We REALLY need it.

[@kokichibestboi]

jeez Skyen your sensual narration of the fantasies regarding Viego are way too good

[@steglitzboy41]

Personally the walk animation for me feels much more like a pouting child. Which in itself fits his character super well. I do not get as much violence-infused vibes as you got.

[@adammarano8264]

I honestly would like to believe that Isolde's feelings towards Viego are love and affection, perhaps in a slightly maternal sort of way. Viego does a wonderful job of being both trope-y and not so trope-y, and it's easy to see that the relationship from Viego's point of view (even if it's third person narration) is perfect and wonderful. But another trope that's been very played out is the "rich person abusing poor person and poor person just deals with it out of fear." I'd like to see their relationship be a true, honest romance that defies class and stature. Rather than it be a case of "Viego only loves himself" it could be a more complex dynamic of Viego truly loving Isolde, but not knowing what love truly means, or how to accept loss, while Isolde truly DOES love Viego, and sees someone that needs to be nurtured and cared for. It isn't a healthy relationship by any means, and they both need saving. Perhaps it is too late.

[@el0quinn]

nooooo viego has to be bad and you can't feel sorry for him you have to hate him and expect that every character in the universe would hate him too /s

[@violaberry413]

I just realized that Isolde has the hairstyle of death in Gwen’s trailer

[@jsmth99]

22:00 ,,You are not the hero of this tale... you are not anything."

[@jimstoesz3878]

I wish Viego did remember the incident with Banshee-Ysolde. There's a lot of potential character depth that's discarded by him not knowing that Ysolde's rejected him. How'd he handle that rejection? I'd like to see that.

[@sarahcole9661]

We know how he handled it, he went crazyballs lol

[@Dhorannis]

Kids, this is what happens if you take teenage love stories way too seriously 💀

[@rixonite6122]

Ever since the reveal trailer, Viego's always been giving me Castlevania vibes. From his Dracula-like personality to the way he dresses. His outfit would fit with most modern castlevania pretty boys like Alucard or Soma. Even the musicbox tune and the recent Gwen reveal all fit with this slight Symphony of the Night aesthetic. That's probably why I think his overall design doesnt fell *that* out of place as Seraphines. Yes, hes modern for league standards, but I could still see this kind of character in a dark gothic type of fantasy game. And the shadow isles always felt like that kind of place. 💀

[@el0quinn]

so true bestie. I want Ayami Kojima designed svelte pretty twinks like Vlad and Viego who are infinitely cooler than other champions for the sole reason that their appeal infuriates haters

[@iantaakalla8180]

Actually, given his motivations it would be funny to have Viego dressed like classical Dracula simply because Dracula’s story before Lament of Innocence but after Symphony of the Night is also a “they killed my loved ones so they will pay” story.

[@onatamana3362]

If Isolde actually gets any significant characterization and it's revealed that she always hated Viego's guts, I will be overjoyed. 💀

[@kannavz3494]

I on the other hand, want to see that she was truly in love with him, but thousands of years have made her fall out of love. But part of her wants him still. But I'm a sucker for tragic love stories.💀💀

[@phoenixflames23]

The Gwen Insights stated that Isolde dreamed of being a princess...she idolized Camavor even if her country was colonized by them...then the prince suddenly fell in love with her and its a fairy tale... So i feel like they were truly in love but circumstances right now will determine what Isolde thinks of him in present day

[@cartoonishidealism582]

I think it’s a bit of both. I think Isolde was infatuated with him - I mean, if you’re a poor peasant and suddenly a handsome prince showed up on your doorstep, professing his undying love for you, and offering to whisk you away to a life of romance and bliss, well, how could you resist? It’s a fairytale come to life. But I believe that after a while, this happily ever after started to crack. The initial infatuation blinded her to Viego’s flaws and as it began to wear off, Isolde started to realise that he was an obsessive lunatic.

[@phoenixflames23]

@@cartoonishidealism582 welllll...if i remember correctly...i think Isolde did push Viego out of the way and she took the poison that was meant for him.. He only became obsessive after the Ruination..but before the two of them truly did love each other... The pain Isolde felt after she died..well thats enough for her to change her views on him...especially after her soul got split...

[@holms6047]

@@phoenixflames23 the poisonous knive meant to kill Viego is deflected by the kings guard and accidentally cut Isolde. This assasination attempt happens because Viego is a rly bad king. So he was never good all along.

[@mcglitchhowironic4679]

7:32 Sounds like one of those (popular villain character) x Reader, fanfictions on Wattpad

[@johnypanta6208]

"He is a terrible idea on two legs"😂😂😂😂. Hahahaha...That killed me 🤣🤣. I'm crying 😂😂

[@liverusrock6789]

The MK walking reminds me of the "Oh you're approaching me?" Jojo vs Dio me.

[@qAxLp]

My biggest gripe with Viego is that he looks almost nothing like the rest of the shadow isle champions. Just feels very inconsistent when Kalista, Ledros and Hecarim all have a very medieval wraith kind of theme to them whilst Viego, their king, seem more like he's from some MCR tribute band.

[@SakEma7]

On Viego's clothes, while the design may be somewhat modern, a lot of characters from the Shadow Isles in LoL and LoR are dressed with something that looks like black leather/hard_leather/metal/cloth. It's not on every character/card, but it is with a lot of them. So it could be that The Ruination transform the material of it's victim's clothes, and the design is sort of a mix between their personality and what their were wearing when they died.

[@violetraven8323]

Me, the grimdark writer’s thought about Isolde’s POV: What if there romance wasn’t consensual in the least? What if Viego may have not directly threatened her in anyway. But stalked her, wouldn’t stop asking even as she said no everytime. And as he grew increasingly insistent with presents and more proposals. Soon earning her the embittered jealously of those around her, her own neighbors started to hate her and she figured the only way to make it stop. At least a little- was to say yes. Unfortunately, the exact opposite happened. She might as well have been a gaudily worshiped mural in his palace. She may have been cherished like no one else in his life or in his entire country. But no matter how pretty the cage was it was still a cage. With bars painted gold, but made out of possession, manipulation, Viego’s own entitlement, as well as Isold’e growing self blame. It grew to a point she sent an Assassin after herself. Finding death a comparably happy ending, to staying any longer with him. Yet as she was brought back and made the shadow isles. She thought even as a ghost with the power to kill him, as she did. Would make it all end. But he’ll find her even in the afterlife. Extra: I never like romances where one is a monarch and the other is a peasant/citizen/servant/slave. Cause the power imbalance makes consent virtually impossible. Even if it’s not in character for that sort of exploitation and the relationship is healthy regardless. That’s either never the case in those situations, and can romanticize otherwise abusive situations. Or it’s outright stupid to suggest anyone who seeks sex/intimacy from someone whose entire life they can have total control over. Has altruistic motive and intentions. Even if my version never comes to pass or it’s not nearly as dark. I hope Riot subverts towards this in some way. I mean I can’t expect much but maybe

[@boitata2617]

I mean, based on his old sword sprite alone we would never guessed viego appereance, I can't even picture him wielding the old sword. Like, tell me, what would a viego skin, with him wielding his old sword, look like?

[@rosebelmahjoubi1932]

6:20 i was convince he was gonna say a simp

[@allmensland2106]

I actually love Viego. Being a big fan of Legends Star Wars’ portrayal of Vader, you usually see like, the tragic hero turned villain after a broken heart and frankly it’s a fantastic trope. But seeing it turned on it’s head and realising that even when Viego had his love, the phase that was supposed to be the ‘hero’ part, he was still an egotistical dickhead. Unlike Anakin or any of what I’ve seen personally

[@el0quinn]

Egotistical dickhead, he still deserves love and he's still a perfect young man

[@giixiee]

18:15 viego starts twearking

[@midowo]

God when u were explaining the "Why is Viego hot?" section i- oh boy ever thougth of making an asmr channel?

[@TBSkyen]

I wouldn't have time to manage one - plus, it's kinda rough on my voice doing that style of talking, actually, it uses a lot of throat muscles to sound that quiet, if you can believe it.

[@midowo]

@@TBSkyen of course, i have some difficulty to mantain a lower and quieter tone, but n anyways, ur voice's really good, and of course. u have godlike content, keep up with it.

[@lordsackay]

The "How Is Viego Hot" segment made me think that Viego's going to sweep TB Skyen off his feet next. It's hard not to fall in love, I know.

[@Steel_Prophet]

Viego, also known as Hot Topic, the person, is that kind of design where its hot/cool and streamlined for a place that doesn't or shouldn't have hot/cool streamlined designs.

[@sarahcole9661]

TBSkyen: “perhaps…he will even change for you.” Me: “He’d better!” TB later: “There’s a reason that this is popular. This is Kylo Ren-“ Me: “psssh, please. He’s not even that hot.” TB: “it’s Jareth the Goblin King and the Phantom of the Opera.” Me: “…All right, I’ll grant you that last one.” Also congrats you also described exactly what people find interesting in ascended astarion

[@justsomedudete3320]

I understand the point in making him hot and i appreciate the fact that people who like dudes have more eye candy in the game, but i wish he looked more like a king honestly

[@xidjav1836]

Maybe a robe orvsome extra ornamentswould do the trick and also make it seem like a corpse being handle by the mist like Lif from FE

[@theunknownpersonism]

The current King of Thailand wore a similar outfit like Viego during his stay in Germany.

[@ekkehard8]

@@theunknownpersonism Showing abs and all you mean?

[@theunknownpersonism]

@@ekkehard8 Well, the King of Thailand doesn't have abs, but he showed his belly in Germany in one of the photos.

[@evepsyche]

but the point is he's not supposed to look like a king.

[@herebyaccident5174]

You hit the nail on the head. He appeals to a juvenile fantasy often found in younger teen girls

[@littlelucas6317]

Between Gwen and Viego I can't wait to see what other anime visuals and narrative directions Riot Games decides to pull off with The Ruined King storyline.

[@kuba2466]

Lets hope not much else

[@cartoonishidealism582]

The Ruined King game ends with Miss Fortune sailing off to find One Piece

[@Azarian]

So, I dunno if you ever caught it TBskyen but his sword is actually a mash up of the two designs of the BoRK item you can buy in game XD

[@mariostoynov]

I agree with the criticism of Viegos design, it has its strong and weak points, but I personally love it and wouldn't change a thing. Say what you want, but that "edgy emo fuckboy" aestetic has it's charm. I also love characters connected to "twisted love" like Yandere and similar stuff. Obsessive and extremely intense affection is another level of scary, because it feels way more personal than say a dangerous creature that's trying to kill you just because it likes to kill and you happened to be nearby. 💀

[@Ezekku]

2:27 "It is Isolde who gets struck" as she disappears from the painting was a great edition touch. Great video as always! One of the 'what's the deal with' I was more exited to see. I only wish riot adds a toggle to use his in-game armor, because it looks cool as fuck.

[@shinysilvershinx9071]

I loved this video!(got hooked on your channel ever since I binged the hours long champion design stream during midterms studying). Looking forward to more Bloodborne stuff, it was my first soulslike game and is still my favorite. 💀

[@LordZemus]

Just found you recently thanks to youtube reccomendations due to Skootch , another League player I really enjoy. I've been watching your design criticism on League characters and Bloodborne and I really like how you dissect them. Keep up the good work! 💀

[@QuestionMarks420]

9:45 Ey yo whats up I'd like a 🅱️oneless 🅱️izza please

[@iliakatster]

Viego, the embodiment of the "DO. NOT. MESS. WITH. ME." guy

[@simulacrumdei6462]

I'm pretty happy Isolde actually loved Viego The relationship being one sided would have been so boring and bad

[@lunecakes]

viego is so incredibly fine, and skyen describing him is only making him finer

[@thechainwarden]

If I there is not a moment at the end of the Ruined King game where Mordekaiser emerges from the remnants of the black mist stomping on Viego and having his "fine, I'll do it my self" moment I will be livid.

[@WolfDB]

Therapist: "Long Viego isn't real. It can't hurt you" Long Viego: 26:36