What's the Difference Between Monitors and TVs?

[@tunacheesefingers7113]

Jeez this guy looks like the dude from LinusTechTips

[@sound123mine]

I know right?!

[@jeem5807]

haha

[@mrtva_baklawa9633]

Me too, righttt

[@alexle3032]

No...... this is Austin Evans!

[@oranhartley4754]

Just waiting to r/woosh someone

[@ladyathenaofowls]

1.Higher pixel density 2. Higher refresh rates 3. Better response times Damn came back to this for someone correcting grammar to realize it blew up lol

[@greenstorm5568]

Y cant manufacturers not make tvs that improve on those weaknesses tho? Is is bc increased production costs and generally unnecessary for their niche?

[@kav0da680]

@@greenstorm5568 yes.

[@FrozenEtho]

Greenstorm why ask a question you already know the answer to?

[@greenstorm5568]

@@FrozenEtho not bc i neccessarily dont know, but it was a way to blow off a frustrating truth. Kind of like "so your telling me... Example: pay double??"

[@Hotobu]

#1 is no longer true at all #2 The gap is closing #3 Mostly true, but the gap is closing there too

[@hulk2mad]

I like how when he said screen tearing the screen started tearing on him at 2:20

[@MPALMedya]

king taran

[@thenonexistinghero]

I think that was on purpose.

[@unoriginalyoutubename8761]

@@thenonexistinghero ye

[@_mcms]

I thought it really happened the first time I saw it

[@edgaresanchezo]

I deeply appreciate it when KZbinrs have this level of attention to details on their content.

[@dennisanderson8663]

The simple difference is that monitors have much faster response times. For gaming, response times are just as important as the refresh rate measured in Hz. Linus just tested several TVs and some had response times up to 80 ms.

[@notflamesx_3082]

Fucking ridiculous

[@tlovehater]

The response time for my TV is 2 years.

[@wadimek116]

Most tvs today has less than 10ms response time. When oled appeared they killed any pc monitors untill they also started to do oled screens.

[@nameaccount8749]

you think TVs are bad, some projectors have responses times in the region of 200ms

[@kirti7659]

know what's funny? Just used my old tv as a monitor for my new pc build and spent ages working out why the resolutions wouldn't line up. Coulda used this 8 hours earlier linus

[@CaveyMoth]

Gotta turn off dat overscan, man.

[@2BTO]

You telling me you built a PC and didn't know this sheet modasuka

[@UltimateGattai]

I tried to match the TV picture up with my monitor's (because I know my monitor is calibrated to accurate colors), tried, but it's still a little off.

[@armanke13]

I could easily do the same mistake, I thought they have the same features..

[@kirti7659]

thanks dude, will try it out today. I tried using it in the display preferences in windows and got a somewhat good result by making the picture a bit smaller than the tv so I have some big bezels but not enough to annoy me. I'll try the GPU control panel

[@harveyinhd8419]

me watching this with my pc plugged into a tv 😂

[@CapnPicard]

I'm using my old 55 inch Plasma. hahah! It's getting old but I still love my old Plasma.

[@Kingnotorious22]

yep 65 inch

[@harveyinhd8419]

@Drty_Windshield my tv is good but not good for color correction on premiere

[@anthnylder8136]

im on phone i have a chromebook and shitty monitor

[@hectec69]

Lol iam using Samsung 40inch TV I don't complain

[@itayschmidt1601]

I love how you apply effects on the video as an example...

[@amatar8531]

TVs work better in Palestine

[@evooff]

@@amatar8531 Lmao

[@nihilsinedeo9472]

Amatar why do you have to be mean to people? just curious

[@itayschmidt1601]

@@nihilsinedeo9472 yeah I was also wondering...

[@itayschmidt1601]

@@amatar8531 1. I have no idea what you are talking about. 2. I live in a place called Israel.

[@ninjabrycelee3066]

Petition to start the manufacturing of gaming TV's!

[@narayanavhale4514]

Wouldn't that be, .......monitor?

[@celsius1359]

@@narayanavhale4514 monitors don't have receivers for TV functionality or infrared for remote controls

[@cbtan16]

Slap a Corsair, Razor, Gigabyte Aorus or Asus ROG branding on it and starting prices will be in the five digits at least.

[@AugustoV8Cesar]

@@celsius1359 you have a console or a pc, this is useless

[@reaux1560]

Well in the near future gaming tv's will be common.

[@MarkusNapp]

Love how at 2:22 the image tears when talking about tearing. Nice editing.

[@treymiller5736]

Markus Napp lmao I was wondering if anyone was gonna point that out.

[@soosbotshorts6959]

umm it didnt tear lol

[@treymiller5736]

Doge umm yes it did....very much did my friend it was very fast and if your didn’t see it the g-sync and free sync are currently pointless to you as it was a hard harsh and you can tell they very much meant to do it. It was only a single frame so we are talking very quick

[@johnnyboy2165]

Uh, no it didn't....

[@AmanSingh-px5if]

@@johnnyboy2165 253+ people including me can confirm it did.

[@cameronpoe9331]

Hdmi Computer monitor 700.00. Hdmi Television 350.00. Realizing you only needed one for everthing. Priceless.

[@giann3021]

Tacitus Kilgore lol yeah. Monitors are overpriced where I live for some reason. $200 only gets you a shitty TN 60Hz panel.

[@geniusaitoolfinder]

@@giann3021 got me a 144hz 1ms respinse time

[@SaikeeKonosukeLuc]

don't forget the budget to repair your eyes after. you'll need it with your 350$ HDMI TV

[@ard-janvanetten1331]

@@giann3021 protip: second hand monitors are very good of hou don't want a super high end one, you can get pretty good monitors for almost nothing. I got my 1400*900 60hz third monitor for 5 euros and it's working awesome

[@benderong4478]

A tv screen where I live is about 3-5k

[@caloss2]

Dude those scars, are you a cage fighter ? "Nah we have cats"

[@jasonlisonbee]

Unlike cartoons, real life humans suffer permanent brain damage and loss of mental faculties from each hit to the head.

[@El_Mouse]

@@jasonlisonbee whoosh\

[@wheresmypudding]

My uncle has the same amount of scars it's because there are actually a lot of injuries that can happen when you are involved with pc building

[@AfroHeadYT]

It's funny how a Woosh can get more likes than a roast

[@EddyGraphic]

Fast forward to 2020 and the LG C9 has a MS lag of 1, a refresh rate of 120hz and on top of that it is OLED And Nvidia G-Sync compatible, can't say that for a lot of monitors, so the Gap is closing really fast.

[@sidthegamer6107]

No it isn't , now a monitor powered by nvidia has a refresh rate of 360 Hz . 3x the TV you're speaking of . Though I agree that 120 Hz is fine too...

[@simply_cake]

Sid thegamer Anything over 120hertz is useless

[@tj10777]

stormer I’ve got one too and I didn’t know that either. It’s the best TV I’ve ever had. The only annoying thing about it is that it won’t switch on automatically when it receives input from my computer. It will for every other device, just not my computer. Don’t know why

[@EddyGraphic]

t1077 That’s because your computer most like doesn’t support CEC while those other devices do.

[@natend741]

@@simply_cake yes because humans can't see more than 8gb of ram

[@avenged110]

My main problem with TVs is it seems pretty much all of the "good" ones (4K OLED) have some bloated OS it has to boot for all kinds of stuff I don't want. I wish it was possible to get a color-accurate 70" 4K OLED panel that powers on in just a couple of seconds and does absolutely nothing except display the HDMI signal I send it, much closer to how a monitor would generally behave.

[@thenonexistinghero]

The Sony ZF9 was the most colour accurate TV ever released when it came out last year. Not sure how their 2019 flagship compares. The downside of the 2018 ZF9 was less deep blacks and some blooming issues, but other than that it was the best or among the best in every other category.

[@japookie]

mannnn good look with the color accurate part but i use a 4k lcd tv as my monitor and this bugger boots up with the quickness and performs like a champ (to me at least) with low latency to boot

[@japookie]

@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot with most newer tvs having a low latency game mode you can pick up a sub 500 dollar 50 plus inch 4k tv (maybe even one with acceptable hdr and local dimming) and really enjoy ur pc as long as u have the graphics horsepower to push those pixels

[@David-ud9ju]

What you want is a TV that's not a Smart TV and I agree. If I want Netflix or KZbin I can use a laptop and plug it in to the television. I don't actually think non-smart TVs exist though.

[@gerRule]

David I use my ps4 pro for those things

[@Arovna]

Now that's a legitimate question I've always wanted to get an answer to.

[@DragonProtector]

Same to me

[@emirahmetspahic6858]

If you've really wanted to get the answer, you'd look for it and find out yourself.

[@mandlamsipa7149]

Andrianarinivo this video has failed to provide an answer

[@UltimateGattai]

Try explaining this to other people, the ignorance is mind blowing.

[@willl5410]

This is the simple version. Monitor = no built in tuner TV = has a built in tuner

[@silversolver7809]

For those who use their PCs for more than gaming, then a 2nd monitor is one of those hugely productive never-go-back experiences-like moving from monochrome to color. Checking Newegg & Amazon, 2 x 42" monitors are over $1,000 cheapest. I'll stick with my 2 x 42" TVs-I don't play online, so the big-screen experience beats any tech advantages for me. Tips for using a TV you already have: 1. Try the different ports on your TV to see which is best. They're often not all the same-try any labelled Game or PC first. 2. Change the default port name from HDMI1 to PC or Game-that can config some TVs to be more game friendly. 3. Switch off all the other TV modes you don't need. Tips for buying a TV for gaming: Must have 1. Latency max 30ms for action games, else max 45ms. 2. Full RGB or YCbCr color support. Nice to have Non-interpolated refresh over 60Hz. PC or Game mode.

[@weckar]

Shouldn't you try try any labelled Game or PC LAST? If they ARE the best, no need for an extra change to the right one.

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

Silver Solver 6 months ago (edited) "For those who use their PCs for more than gaming, then a 2nd monitor is one of those hugely productive never-go-back experiences" You are definitely correct on that. I just recently started using two monitors and I will never go back to a single monitor setup unless it is absolutely necessary. As to the subject of this video, my second monitor is actually a vizio 35inch t.v. LOL

[@Josh-ify]

In the earlier days of HD screens, I really loved using a TV for my display when playing games like Shadow of Mordor. This video, 2.5 years later, finally taught me why I preferred my TV to my slightly-older-but-still-halfway-decent monitor. Thanks Linus!

[@ySkippy]

imagine having to turn your head to see all the parts of your screen This post was made by monitor gang

[@bakonpancakz]

Epic

[@questioningeverything4200]

KingSkippyyy I’m gonna get a monitor but I need to know all the stuff It need like best fresfeesh rates and hurts etc I’m a noob to cpu

[@yes_not_it9171]

Questioning Everything 144hz monitor and get i5 or better

[@fatcat2025]

Imagine not being able to look around to see your screen. This post was made by the TV gang

[@MoosePolo]

Ultra wide gang*

[@VaalkinTheOnly]

2:23 that was smart what you did there

[@rollingrocky3608]

@MeglaDawnYT he's talking about the screen tear thing. The screen appears to tear (at his head) when he is actually talking about it

[@shootinbruin3614]

Input lag, refresh rate, vrr, color accuracy and gamut... it’s amazing how just 18 months after this video was made mainstream TVs like LG’s 9 and X series have addressed all these issues and are now actively being marketed to gamers. I still wouldn’t want to use an OLED as my main monitor, but I would definitely love to have one as a dedicated gaming display

[@magnusm4]

This comment being 3 years old makes me excited over how even more PC compatible TVs have become for gaming.

[@venomdank965]

looking into buying a TV so this is good news. can use it for gaming too. :)

[@arthurn8952]

This guy is everywhere on tech KZbin

[@CEKROM]

When I bought a 27 inch monitor someone told me why I buy a TV =D

[@krenzzie7290]

He is dumb.

[@Haarba1]

I cant imagine working on less than 2x27". Got 3x27" at work and at home for a few years now. Anything less than 23-24 I cant even call "monitor" :)

[@eklipz2413]

Charlie Rothwill ur mad over someone typing how they felt like it?

[@obvious_humor]

Charlie Rothwill You try learning a different language. How's your German?

[@computethisinfo]

Haarba1 I use a 24" as my main monitor and a 22" as my second however the second is also my tv which it was designed for. I just make extra use for it, and my tv is smaller than my monitor lmao

[@satevo462]

When I moved my PlayStation from my 50 inch TV over to my computer monitor and played a first person shooter I knew I could never go back to the big screen TV. Now I have a splitter so if I want to play something besides a FPS I can put it on the big screen and hop on the couch.

[@manueljammers4747]

Doing the same With racing games; )

[@freestyle8195]

Satevo whats the splitter called

[@KiLLED5639]

I've figured this too. The only thing that's keeping me from getting a monitor as opposed to playing ps4 games on my 50" Samsung tv is I don't have the space right now. I know damn well I would never go back to playing games on a tv ever again if I had a monitor.

[@dewump9369]

What monitor I need one for my Xbox

[@blair5475]

You have a shitty 50 inch TV then. Get yourself a good gaming TV and you'll never want to play on a tiny screen again.

[@arthurwatts1680]

3 years on, and with dozens of 'my TV is now my monitor' vids on YT, I suspect that it's time for Linus to revisit this. TV manufacturers definitely got the message re response times even I'm personally not sure I could handle that much screen real estate.

[@TonytheEE]

I think this video could use a 2024 refresh, since we've gotten more OLED panels in the monitor space, as well as curve and weird aspect ratios.

[@finnmccann13]

Short answer monitors are Better for gaming

[@bobo42024]

Finn McCann No shit

[@CaveyMoth]

And gaming is what I do most. So.. *snaps fingers* yahhh...

[@drakZes]

Not for all gaming. If you only play RPG's(or mostly single player games that don't require fast input lag) and you want that crisp colors and big screen size than TV is the way to go.

[@lifeofabachelor8547]

monitors are better for gaming only if you prefer faster response times and better color. however if you prefer to play on a big screen then a tv is better

[@mustafahasan957]

its same for most games only if you have 1070 or better card bcz above 60 fps and fast respond time for games like cs:go

[@tamodolo]

Wait!! Response time isn't inputlag!!!! Response time is the speed of pixel change!

[@CatOnACell]

correct however for gamers it has identical symptoms to input lag as you can't effectively see what your next move is until after the screen has changed and some games even use the pixel changes to determine response times effectively turning response time intoo a game specific type of input lag. i call it game lag.

[@tamodolo]

@@CatOnACell not really no. The change still happen at the inputlag rate. the response time only implies more blur as the pixel reach full transition before next frame. The "game lag" actualy have a name: it's called display lag that is the time between receaving the signal and actually display it. Input lag = system lag (time between input and send finished frame to display) + display lag Again, response time IS NOT display lag.

[@kingjames4886]

response time is totally display lag...

[@tamodolo]

@@kingjames4886 No, it is not. I'm not speculating, I'm affirming. Go research and you will see.

[@tamodolo]

Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqeriWV7m9qkla8 In this case, it seems a TV from 2015 that have 37 to 48ms inputlag but quick response time (maybe samsung). The time the image takes to change don't enter in the inputlag as the picture is already on screen but the pixel didn't responded the change completly.

[@taltigolt]

one thing i love about tvs over monitors oled and fully glossy panel it is damn near impossible to find a glossy monitor it is impossible to find a good 100% glossy monitor, any antiglare coating ruins the picture completely

[@giotphan9673]

apple monitor welcomes you !!!!

[@hellenhardy3144]

@@giotphan9673 They are expensive

[@TheLaptopLagger]

livin that imac life

[@Augustus_Imperator]

for the experience I have, usually tvs have much lower dpi counts. so they may be pretty decent at certain distances, but they really suck up close.

[@RetroBerner]

I started out with a c64 hooked up to a 13" TV, then I upgraded to a PC with a 19" CRT. I realized my PC CRT had a better image resolution so I started to use that to watch TV. Eventually I upgraded to a 46" 1080P LCD TV and realized my PC monitor was looking rough in comparison. So I got a 4k monitor and now my TV looks like shit again..... There is no winning.

[@Pasi123]

I have a 17" PC CRT monitor that has a lot better colors, contrast, black level etc. than my 1080p LCD monitors on my main PC. But I don't have money to buy any better LCD monitors

[@atari2600b]

CRT's don't require HDR & do 4k just fine

[@kuhhnt]

Steve Martino yes there is. I bought a 65” UHD QLED HDR monitor. So. What’s a tv? I haven’t bothered with a TV for the better part of a decade.

[@RetroBerner]

Wes I wish I could afford something like that, sounds nice

[@JJMza]

It's called *features* and understand why you don't need it. #standard4lyfe 1080p isn't going anywhere anytime soon as it's not even perfected to help cope with GPU Temps if we're talking PC

[@chandlerlaruex]

I have been gaming on 4k tvs for 4 years and after doing it for so long ive convinced myself im not at any disadvantage in any games mastering minute difference in response time and kicking ass in every title i play. And gaming in 4k on oled is the most beautiful eloquent thing ive ever experienced

[@Tomiply]

The "response time" you looked up on PC Part Picker refers to grey to grey response, though, not input lag. Input lag is stil 10-16 ms on most monitors.

[@sggdopeyz5346]

Tomiply no you are incompetent

[@t3hSurge]

Correct answer, so many errors in tech quicky

[@pedron30]

And what about input lag on tvs? Whats the usual? I'm going to guess that gaming on monitors will always be better but want to be sure about the input lag

[@RockyLaRosa]

​@@t3hSurgeQUICKY😅

[@SonuyosKool]

This video just make me appreciate how far we have come technological wise. 4 yrs and all the mentioned points for monitor are available on TV now. Writing this from 48 inch C1.

[@hanzohasashi2631]

Thank god for this video because my mom thinks our TV is 4K but it’s not it’s just a cheap small old tv 😂😂

[@markusTegelane]

Hanzo Hasashi Most moms can't tell the difference anyway

[@potatopobobot4231]

she single?

[@CaveyMoth]

It's for keiii, bruh!

[@elsholz2365]

My mom still rockin that 800x600 monitor :p

[@hanzohasashi2631]

El Sholz 😂😂😂does she think it’s 5k?

[@KashiwaDaisuke]

RESPONSE TIME ISN'T THE SAME AS INPUT LAG UGGGHHHHHHHH

[@GizmoFTW]

he never said it was lol

[@KashiwaDaisuke]

@@GizmoFTW the screen showed "response time" ratings when he talked about input lag

[@ambostralian]

I was hoping someone would point this out, lol

[@MNation69]

Yeah learned this the hard way with my first 4k monitor, which subsequently went back to the store the next day.

[@MrDesillu]

Right he mixed Resp time with input lag. Input lag of monitors is more like 10-15ms

[@AndersonChan]

Here’s a really short summary: TVs are for entertainment Monitors are for gaming and productivity and everything that’s within the lines.

[@bayareasportsfan04]

Exactly! I'd use a monitor for gaming, and TVs to watch sports or movies

[@braylonking3249]

@@bayareasportsfan04 should I get a monitor for my Xbox? Or is that a bad idea?

[@shaniceevans659]

Well tell that to these ps5 makers 😩😩😩😩

[@chronenojysk5107]

Me: *plays video games on TVs*

[@dificultyzfn9217]

If I get a monitor should i also get a keyboard and mouse

[@zack.123.]

Well worth doing a revised version of this video. Comparing 32' TVs with the current monitors would make for a compelling video.

[@MntRprznt]

I play on a 4k TV - it's 55 inch, about 20 ms input lag [with Game Mode on] - I usually do PC sim racing at 4k @ 60 Hz [tv's max]. People - make sure your TV works in the 422 or 444 mode [also set in drivers], dont do any fps limiters so each frame falling into 60Hz is more accurate, and its grand! I have it hooked up as my only monitor, so I do WIndows on that no problem, and for movies you can even turn on Smooth Motion filters and such, which makes it for an even better experience. Been using TV's as monitors for years now - started with a 40 inch 1080p years ago and then went up to 47 inch and 55 now. Cant complain - Im surprised more people are not into it.

[@ElMundoDeSam95]

Yeah me too...i have a 4k sony 55 inch tv also with 20 ms...im also shocked that people prefer to play in 27 inch monitors....no thanks! i prefer my 4k tv FOR EVERYTHING videogames,youtube videos,tv series,anime,movies even porn...using a monitor would feel outdated by comparison....everybody has different opinions i guess!

[@MntRprznt]

Sam's world MGTOW Exactly! As long as you dont need over 60 fps in games, its universal.

[@freddiemercury7844]

@@ElMundoDeSam95 I just wish that 4k tvs could be more compatible with other resolutions like 1440p.

[@ElMundoDeSam95]

@@freddiemercury7844 they are

[@masterzlife6153]

Yea I have an Lg UHD 50 inch tv in my bedroom.An Xbox one x to go along with it and a basically 4K set up.The tv has 4K 60hz and 1080p 120hz.It has hdr10 support etc.And the colors are amazing😍

[@eliasmcdt]

God damn it linus, I thought the screen tear in the video was legitimately my monitor doing it

[@aviciitributes]

Me too

[@charlesmoertle4034]

I cringed so badly at it.

[@carposp7789]

TVs: tv shows and movies Monitors: smoothest porn

[@CaveyMoth]

TVs: Bigger porn for less cost.

[@amanc9835]

carpos p damn bro you’re right I gotta have the 144 hz for all that BBC going into piper peri at light speed

[@valorkey1198]

is there really any 144hz porn available

[@lulmendes6983]

Cavey Manta you seem to hate monitors a lot lol

[@suhdude9775]

Only a smart person buys a projector to watch porn at a 130” display

[@leviathanit5570]

1. Builtin Sat Decoder 2. Builtin "Smart" menu B.S. 3. Lower pixel density 4. Lower refresh rates 5. Lower response times 6. Higher price

[@krisavi]

TVs are more likely to have speakers built in. There are monitors with speakers built in, but it is more rare. On computer they are more relying on person to have a separate speaker set connected to sound card or having headphones. For me I happened to get both of my monitors with speakers, but one of them has really bad location and quality for them, other one has acceptable quality and placement for youtube, movies and such. Or well to be more precise one of them has a speaker, while other one has speakers, so mono vs stereo sound and it makes a difference.

[@nikolaykim16]

Hey Linus, love your videos. One thing to add - you messed up response time and input lag, those things are completely different.

[@JohnDoeJL]

Good point, weird he confused it as it's pretty basic knowledge.

[@DiegoCobain]

What about a 4k tv with a 120Hz panel and Freesync. 6.6ms input lag at 1080p VRR and response time 6ms.

[@beowulf_5060]

Not that good

[@rondar2]

What about a 30k usd price tag

[@whywhy8287]

@@rondar2 what about a $300 4k 40inch 120pHz 1080p tv

[@HustlerBoy420]

@@whywhy8287 "4k 1080p tv".. i dont see what you did there

[@whywhy8287]

@@HustlerBoy420 LMAO i just messed up

[@sonsofrock12]

Do a vid about Real Time Ray Tracing

[@bradhaines3142]

Jonathan Moore gotta agree, i dont see the big deal with nvidias new line, other than that it finally exists

[@Aiden-on2fk]

He should do a video with Linus Tech Tips

[@pyzo.]

xd

[@Nt3Hr]

lol

[@ilikeyai]

ThAT iS lInUs TeCh TiPs 😒 you are so dumb omfg 😤🙄 sush dumb asses in these comments have a great day😇💚

[@skrzii]

@@ilikeyai you idiot. R/wooosh

[@landonstudios9653]

Difference Skateboarding what are you saying he is not Linus your an idiot

[@avocatobobble]

I use a 48inch 4k LED TV and game on it. I do fairly well considering how bad I am at Siege. I don’t know my response time but it has 60hz for definite and I’ve done a 4:4:4 colour test and it passed. I play all my games windowed mode 1440p resolution, when up close as 48inch is too big and then movies and tv shows are in full screen when I’m chilling further back. Plus that amount of screen real estate is awesome for multitasking and the pixel density is great to! The only thing I wish it had was 120hz but for now and for a cheap 4k TV, it’s bloody excellent! I needed to add this on... With my screen, if I do have games in full screen when I game on a controller, I have to go and use borderless window to stop screen tearing! Same settings in full screen, screen tearing EVERYWHERE! Same settings in windowed or borderless, smooth as heck. Someone please explain this?!

[@ivanortiz3934]

Thats because in windowed and borderless options the Vsync is always on. In Full screen Mode the Vsync is optional and must be turned on if you want to avoid screen tearing.

[@charlesbeeman]

Rule One: Don't talk about Linus Tech Tips

[@pyzo.]

lol

[@user-vg2mu8ix5k]

You just broke your own rule 🤦‍♂️

[@Damian125]

1:16 just wondering isn’t respond time means the time it takes for pixels to change to another Color (GTG) and not time it takes to respond to inputs?

[@kuyache2]

its related, he mainly did a shorcut explanation hence techquickie. faster GTG means shorter delay from input to picture action so yeah faster response times.

[@pixure]

@@kuyache2 yeah but the numbers he showed in the video has nothing to do with input lag

[@gamingwithjust921]

Man this KZbin channel is the best...I’m a kid and I learned ram, vram, cpu, gpu and more from this channel thx a lot 👍🏽

[@kpcenti]

Explains what input lag is, but highlights response times....? Umm that's not right

[@easi_solstice]

While response time does not mean the exact same thing as input lag a faster response time will still display the image earlier than a slow response time which in turn gives you more time to react it's almost the same thing but not quite.

[@robintaylor3713]

got fooled by that once. never again slimey marketing people

[@bryanenid1228]

“Screen tearing” 2:23 it actually had one in purpose xD.

[@xraptor10]

Television lag can also be reduced by turning off various signal processing features. Digital noise reduction True motion Basically anything done to improve the picture takes more time to deliver the picture.

[@honey4xi]

Computer graphic cards of AMD & NVIDIA use refresh rates monitors. Modern TVs are confusing us about refresh rates because they call motion rates or effective rates for their TVs which are higher numbers than the true refresh rates numbers. !0 years ago, TV companies used refresh rates for all digital TVs. In the last few years, they use motion rates or effective rates for their TVs for sale.

[@Princessfaith_]

“I’m not gonna cry over it”😭😂😂😭😭😭you’re so hilarious

[@noisullI_dnarG]

FINALLY someone who respects the communities choice by saying 'LIKE/DISLIKE' rather than telling/commanding you to LIKE. Lol Respect👊

[@prezidenttrump5171]

You're a dumb nugger, every fucking KZbinr does that.

[@prezidenttrump5171]

@@ikeshrafter When every youtuber actually says that same thing, it's not trolling. You begin to realize that's all you have to say because you can't think of anything else to dispute.

[@peanutjam7601]

When my 60 hz monitor started tearing because he cant handle 120 fps. Monitor: please turn on v-sync Me: no, i don't think i will

[@pietr036it]

You monster lol

[@Jappjap]

This guy is literally kicking his monitor ass

[@blyat420]

Lol the pic on the tv on the thumbnail is from Slovenia 🇸🇮.

[@blyat420]

Emma Madison ?

[@Madditcs]

Emma ne konta te prefinjenosti Bleda

[@mangonectar8117]

JEBEMTI

[@AlexandrBorschchev]

thats really cool, its in my lg tv all the time!

[@CarloPiana]

I'm currently forced to work on a 43" tv at 4k, working from home with my new working gear. Actually not bad, but that is simply too large a screen for actual work. Conversely, I've been using 4k on a 24" monitor and that made things too small, to a point I had to enlarge the HiDPI output correction to 125%. So there is a balance and such a thing as "too big".

[@jonathonnordyke5370]

I know this is an old video but I think this is really cool that you're advertising team which has been my phone carrier for going on three years now love them

[@mrlithium69]

Who else thinks Tech*Quickie* isnt fast enough and watches it on 1.25x ? :)

[@killerking1987]

mrlithium why stop there

[@TheSquirrelyGhost]

If there is only one person in the video 2x if there is a group talking at the same time 1.5x.

[@aurkom]

I watch almost all videos on 2x....

[@AbhishekThakur-wl1pl]

@@aurkom superhuman spotted!

[@aurkom]

@@AbhishekThakur-wl1pl There's this cool extension for Chrome called video speed controller. I use it often to watch some videos at 3x. :p

[@PsychoStreak]

4:43 - "Stop watching me sleep!, It's creepy!" "Dude, we're playing a game" "Oh. Still. It's creepy."

[@Telodor]

I still have an old Plasma TV and it's great for gaming! I have the Panasonic G10 and apparently it has only 2ms of input lag! I want to upgrade to a Panasonic OLED this year, do you think I'll have worse gaming experience than on my plasma?

[@Pasi123]

I've heard many Plasma TV owners saying OLED is worse than Plasma for gaming.

[@thehunter4873]

Telodor567 depends, it will have more lag but will look amazing I’d say it’s worth it unless your really into multiplayer

[@Telodor]

Really? I haven't heard something like this before. Source?

[@Telodor]

I mainly play singleplayer games so I'd say it's worth it.

[@thehunter4873]

Telodor567 yeah that would be my decision to, may I ask what tv you’d be getting?

[@talon1706]

I use a 48" Sony Bravia for my pc monitor. Does the job just fine. Our main tv (65" LG) is for the console games. It's awesome.

[@narmak1074]

TVs with HDMI 2.1 and from the top manufacturers will get the same sort of G sync/V sync tech monitors have supported, and they are quite accurate at the top end when properly calibrated and not left in shop floor torch mode. Response times for input lag is what counts when gaming and LG has lowered it down to 13ms on 2019 models which is probably quicker than you can react even if it's not under 10ms. TVs like OLED however won't make good PC monitors for very long duration static icons etc. It's just nicer to be able to pay for one screen and do multiple things.

[@johnnyappleseed4794]

2:23 I see what you did there linus. Simulated screen tearing.

[@alfaix2073]

2:20 aswell

[@TevisC]

Input lag !=response time. Can't belive that slipped by the tech savy lmg.

[@cerealactivist2326]

This channel is what you watch to warm up for the things you dont understand when watching ltt

[@bubi7976]

2:09 TaZ :D

[@keppycs]

:D

[@hydeist0666]

Sadly VP is dying. Hope the biceps can carry once more

[@toottoot129]

F for taz

[@ggwpbryan]

Neo Anderson yes sir 😍😘

[@mohamedhassan8867]

And the reason why he's there because one time in 2013 or 14 he was complaining about a tournament had only 75hz monitors, that would be awesome if this is the case, and if not it's a strange coincidence lol

[@william41017]

2:46 What does he mean with "specially out of the box"?

[@HAWXLEADER]

Companies use extreme and incorrect screen calibrations for the WOW factor. It might look contrasty and vivid but it will also look wrong. Shadows and highlights loses details, colors looks too colorful (red skin for example). There is always the natural mode (or srgb in some TVs) but it's almost always not the one set by default

[@MLWJ1993]

TVs oversaturate, oversharpen & colour grade whatever it displays out of the box... An unclamped HDR monitor displaying SDR content would be considered "accurate" in comparison...

[@mikeO31082]

TV's are calibrated more for showcase on a display floor at a retail store. Where lighting is typical a lot brighter than you would have in your home. The manufacturer trys to make the image pop as possible to attract buyers, but the default settings are typically not ideal out of the box when you get the TV home.

[@samuelstroh8631]

I have a 32 Inch TV, despite being 1366*768, the size in 32" is amazing. Still I don't need speed, rather more screen size.

[@Flowers_LR]

thanks Linus, this video really helped me. I didn't know whether to choose a monitor or tv for my PC but i realised that I'm gonna watch more videos on KZbin and movies on Netflix then actually play games, so i went with a TV to get a more comfortable experience

[@RobertGoddard86]

I found out that to use HDR on a 4K Samsung UHDTV Running my PC GTX 1070oc You have to change the "label" of the HDMI input to "Gaming" for the refresh rate to work properly. Also you don't want to have any "Energy saving" on and leave the most of the "Display settings" alone. I just made sure the "Dynamic Contrast" is set to HIGH, "Backlight" is set to Normal, "Color tone" to standard, "HDMI UHD Color" set to on, I like to turn "Auto Motion Plus" to off, and put the "Brightness" up a bit. I put it 5 up to 50. also you can check to make sure that your "Special Viewing Mode" is set to "HDR+ Mode" = ON. P.S. If your running on Windows 10 v1803 you have a setting under "Display" called HDR. I would set that to on. lol If you mess up. it's ok. Just "reset to default settings."

[@kuhhnt]

Robert Goddard I use a Samsung QH65H 65” HDR UHD QLED display as my secondary monitor. It’s not a tv. Windows 10 doesn’t detect it as anything other than a Generic PnP display. I get the full 3840x2160 resolution, but not the HDR. HDCP seems hit and miss too. I firmly believe it’s the lack of drivers giving me grief. I connect via DisplayPort, not HDMI, but, the same faults are present through DisplayPort or HDMI when connecting the PC. Connecting the Xbox one x or PS4 pro via HDMI both work flawlessly, with HDR enabled. So it seems I’m just having a windows issue. I’m pretty sure mine is all set up as you’ve described. Will have a look at it agin though.

[@RobertGoddard86]

So what about GPU drivers and updates/Firmware? I had to update my GPU Firmware because there's an issue with cheep RAM sometimes. Maybe see if you can google it?

[@kuhhnt]

Robert Goddard GPU is Titan Xp collectors edition. It’s up to date. With current drivers. RAM is Corsair Vengeance LTX 64gb. Again, no issue with that. I have a 43” UHD display as well, everything works on that fine. I’m currently in talks with Samsung enterprise to try and rectify the lack of drivers, especially given their product listing, shows it as being supported under windows 10

[@RobertGoddard86]

Wes On my computer I see that my monitors both show up as "Generic PnP Monitors" but one is the TV. You can find this under Device Manager.

[@Nec89]

OK Linus but where do projectors fit into the mix? I've been shopping for one but the OLED TVs have me second guessing myself.

[@chrisredfield332]

Linus this was really helpful, thank you

[@pyzo.]

no hes techquickie

[@LincolnRon]

0:20 "For your satellite or cable subscription." If you had money to burn. Normal people just used an antenna, most houses had one on the roof.

[@MrDox90]

I honestly think times are changing. I bought a 2019 model 4K 43" LG TV. I use it as a computer monitor. It has better pixel density than regular 24" montors and is 43". In games even when AntiAliasing is set to off, i can barely see jaggy edges. Also you can sit at least a bit further away, reducing the effect more. Also the immersion for games is night and day. It has a dedicated game mode to which you can switch in literally 2 seconds. It shuts of all unnecessary image processing and gets around 10ms lag. It's practically unnoticeable. If you're not a pro and aren't gaming for a living, I really don't see why would you need better. And Oled tv's have less than 1ms lag. Those panels are fast. If you want something good you pay for it, but it certainly is worth it. Honest recommendation if you can afford it. Additionally when editing images in photoshop, or rendering or something similar, the screen estate is insane, while losing no detail. It's literally having 4 1080p monitors fused together. Now when I go back to a 22-24 monitor it looks like it's a toy. There are downsides. For example, a monitor can reproduce the 32bit output of a desktop environment, while my 10bit TV struggles. I can visibly see banding sometimes, but it's not too terrible. Also high end TVs have reduced this, while oleds have none. Night time browsing with lights off in the room is a nightmare. Bright white background with text blowing your eyes out. A small screen is way more suited for this if you want to preserve your eyes. Also my tv has vignetting, which monitors usually don't. This is only noticeable in desktop, while in games and movies makes absolutely no difference. Oh and of course horsepower to push 4k is a downside. Without a 1080 or 1080Ti don't try gaming. I have a 1080 and on med/high i can get into 50-60fps range in most titles. Some even maxed out. All in all it's a good experience even on a budget if you're not expecting way too much.

[@willl5410]

This is the simple version. Monitor = no built in tuner TV = has a built in tuner

[@bobo888bobo]

When lcd and plasma TVs first came out you could get cheaper ones without a tuner. I only use the tuner and rabbit ear antenna on mine when the cable goes out

[@BLINDCABBY]

Not at all

[@killertruth186]

Some monitors does have a tuner. And I would say manual settings for the monitor is considered a "tuner"

[@bottipoika]

i have tv without tuner

[@xheralt]

If it has a tuner, it's a TV. If it has tech specs suitable for PC gaming, then it is vastly overqualified to be a TV.

[@curts7801]

1:02 I’ve been memed!

[@silverwatchdog]

LG OLEDs are TVs, but with a flick of a button they can be the perfect monitor. The only downside of using it over a monitor is having to use the remote to turn it on everytime you want to turn on your PC, but when you see the out of this world picture quality and that sweet instant response times, you quickly forget about that. It's got literally everything else, even Gsync! The LG C1 is basically as decked out as what you can get. I love being able to choose whether to be close for gaming or productivity and then being able to kick back and relax and watch some movies, TV programs or some good old fashioned controller gaming. All I have connected is a PC and I can do basically everything in an optimal way. This is a really good setup nowadays if you have a RTX 3080 and I truly believe there isn't a better screen to pair this beast of a card with. The only reason why this couldn't happen sooner is 1080p really limited monitor sizes to 27", but 4k allows ppi that is good enough for monitor viewing distance on even behemoth 48" screens. It's like having 4 24" 1080p screens and as you can imagine it is a dream for productivity.

[@rius1010]

You seem to know a lot what tv should i buy for gaming and movies

[@Karimsama]

Also price. A TV is much cheaper than a monitor... That is honestly a big thing for me...

[@WARNING-1gv7ej2j]

monitors are cheaper than TV's.

[@faileduploader6366]

3:54 There Are Already terahd (16k) microled monitors With 16bit Color

[@Shintsu2]

Funny, I just looked very intensively and found PC monitors are largely inferior to TVs. I wanted so much for it not to be true, but black/gray uniformity is consistently mediocre on monitors. Also the resolutions and sizes are stupid. 2560x1440 @ 27" or you can just keep stretching that resolution up to larger size monitors. Then 4K monitors are so often some stupidly small size like 24 or 27" where the insane pixel density seems wasted since it's highly unlikely most buying them are doing print work. Sure, the refresh rates are high and input lag is low but there are good TVs that offer that as well. Color accuracy is far worse on monitors made these days than it used to be, or I guess TVs have just gotten way better. Go take a look at RTINGS, out of the box TVs are often quite good and when calibrated are exceptional. This is true for a monitor too, but limited only by the panel. Manufacturers seem to have focused on making TVs great and decided monitors are just for high refresh rate and made to be smaller and sit on a desk. I wish there were better 32" 4K options for monitors but they seem quite lacking and high cost for what you get.

[@giann3021]

Shintsu2 just get ultrawide 3440x1440

[@cursedmonkey1033]

I've been struggling with the tv or monitor debate for something to game on with my PS4 for weeks, and the last point of this video finally let me make a decision. TV. Thank you. Now if I could decide on HD or 4K.

[@seanlacroix]

Sorry but there is way too much misinformation in this video. Response time and input lag are two totally different things. My crazy expensive gaming monitor has 5ms grey to grey response time and an input lag of 27ms. My Oled tv is close to that number in game mode.

[@thierryl8794]

Sean Lacroix What’s the brand of your tv and monitor please.

[@LordLab]

OLED have 0.01ms response time , and 21ms input lag if you have LG new models 2017/2018 , if you have sony it will be 31ms input lag .

[@seanlacroix]

Thierry L lg oled b6 and my monitor is an asus 27pg 1440p 144hz freesync.

[@LordLab]

55B6 = 28ms , 65B6 = 34ms , try upgrade your firmware it can help. or get C7 or C8 it have 21ms asus 27pg is a G-Sync , not freesync almost all G-Sync monitors are ~10ms input lag

[@seanlacroix]

LordX sorry, it's a 27mg not pg.

[@jimitSoni]

-"70 inch behemoth..." -wut? Who?

[@DylanMeek7]

I scrolled down pretty far without seeing this: Monitors don’t have speakers and TVs do!!!! This is the biggest difference between the two.

[@JunkBondTrader]

Some have speakers

[@Blue-jn1ph]

My monitor has speakers

[@patrickjohnson6259]

Don’t fit a 80” into my room you say?! 😲 I feel attacked! 😒 I’m trying to fit the biggest one I can fit through my door… I want my whole wall to be a screen so I can fake my soul into thinking we are in some far away rain forest with even leaving the hell of Las Vegas 😂🤣

[@RZ-psb1o]

Lol at that tearing edit effect

[@harshulv2605]

1:18 Wow... Instead of buying that Panasonic monitor, you're better off building a full-RGB, 4K TV gaming setup!

[@David-ud9ju]

It's a monitor specifically designed for medical applications. Not sure what that means but it can display 2D and 3D images simultaneously, which is apparently useful for performing endoscopies, so that's something.

[@mihastefanacmaucec7004]

The desktop image is called Bled Lake, iy is in our country....Slovenia

[@marthai.garcia5760]

I have been using a "dual" Samsung 16" (or 19"?) TV/Monitor for over 5 years now, and as you showed in this vid, have to switch from PC to HDMI/TV or viceversa. I'm not a gamer ("celebrated" sort of- my 80th BD last December ) so can't comment on how good or bad it works but it's been working fine so far in both options, so I am not complaining . Though I use mainly the Monitor option; don't watch TV or Cable since quite some time, thanks to KZbin and Netflix . Love your "Quickie" vids !! I find them instructive and above all FUN to watch. 😊👍

[@AlejandroFloresmotorsport]

This is really a dumb question, but very handy😂😂

[@GAMOLER]

So Basically monitor is for online competitive games and tv is for single player offline games

[@quintinnash2074]

Opa, Bled na thumbnailu ;)

[@osvrtnik]

Taman sam mislio to napisati :D

[@amanc9835]

Urosh Mal wee wee bled noot noot thumbnail uh some foreign language

[@milosm9280]

Inv1ctus He said that Bled was on thumbnail(lake in northwestern Slovenia)

[@amanc9835]

Milos M I appreciate it buddy.

[@milosm9280]

Inv1ctus Btw this is Serbian not Slovenian.Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia and Bled is close to Serbia(about 6.5h from Belgrade).That is why we know about Bled.

[@ShivaalTiluk]

Linus if you ever read this I just want to thank you for everything! Been following you since ~1million subs. I’ve learned so much from your videos, you and your team. And thanks to that I’ve been able to make smarter purchases. Will be with you to a hundred million subs and beyond!!

[@PetrisonRocha]

I take the TV because it's what gives me cinematic fps.

[@sebastiane7556]

Maybe the most important thing: a TV has a built in TV tuner while you need additional hardware to watch TV on a monitor.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

Only an issue with over the air broadcast. Most cable tv now encrypt all the channels, even basic ones, so the built in tuner won't work.

[@chytruseczek]

2:48 I feel like I know that intro 🤔😆 House of Cards? O o f

[@galaxys951]

That's awesome you added screen tearing right after you said it!!

[@optillian4182]

TVs are big. Your question has been answered.

[@killertruth186]

Monitors can be big.

[@outphase78]

@@killertruth186 65" big?

[@killertruth186]

@@outphase78 If the manufacturers want it to be that way.

[@snyggmikael]

tv is spelled differently than monitor I heard

[@killertruth186]

@@snyggmikael And TV did come before Monitors does.

[@Joutai]

Did they confuse response time with input latency/lag...?

[@cyangalaxy]

Wait, now I am confused. For a monitor for example 4 ms, does that mean it takes 4 ms for my mouse click to show on the display? Or is 4 ms how long it takes for the Pixels to go from a certain color to another (and that, the longer the response time, the worse the blurryness of a moving image on the monitor)? Because on monitors sometimes I see “1 ms GtG (gray to gray)”. i am really confused

[@cyangalaxy]

Okay another comment answered this. Response time (like 4ms GtG) is how long it takes for a pixel to change color. Input lag is the other thing, how long it takes for a mouse click to display on the monitor.

[@Hitokiri_Ace]

Joutai FGC Yep. Marketing BS keeps winning, because these guys get fooled.. and spread it.

[@yulfine1688]

no they just left it out of a video and by the way most monitors input lag is far lower than a tvs..unless you buy a cheapo monitor...most monitors even then are still lower than most tvs unless you put the tv into PC mode which a lot of TVS do not do...