What's the Difference: Blade Runner vs Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep

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Cozy Weather

Cozy Weather

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@cozyweatherfilms
@cozyweatherfilms 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I talk to fast is because this was for a college "Literature to Film" class. For the final we had to read a book and make a presentation on the differences made to the adaption. Obviously there was a time limit and I couldn't spend 30 mins of the 45 min class to explain in a well paced voice. I hope this clears up some things for future viewers.
@cheapnoiseinthehouse5578
@cheapnoiseinthehouse5578 Жыл бұрын
Man I am a high school student and I have to read the book and watch the movie just like you had to do. This video is very helpful at the moment so thanks for sharing. I hated Rachelle in the book. The idea of making sex with humans to manipulate them is just wrong in my opinion.
@SEgrin28
@SEgrin28 Жыл бұрын
It's not because I'm listening at 1.75x speed? 😂
@immawraffle
@immawraffle 10 ай бұрын
I, for one, appreciated the fast pace
@thisismyname3928
@thisismyname3928 6 ай бұрын
🗣🗣🗣
@annagirlieee5290
@annagirlieee5290 3 ай бұрын
Well since this was for a college class, I should point out that Blade Runner is not influenced by "Chinese culture"it is a Japanese influence. This would have been obvious to even a second grade child watching this in 1982. Also, there are two words in the English language that are pronounced the same but spelled differently, this is called a homonym and the word "to"and the word "too" have two different meanings which become important if you write. Not being able to distinguish between these two words is a huge indicator that your parents didn't get their tax dollar's worth. When the government was supposed to be educating you somebody was absent. Either you or your teacher.
@danny_boi5116
@danny_boi5116 3 жыл бұрын
Reading the book right now for the first time, there are a lot of differences deckard seems more like a hardened classic bad ass bounty Hunter in the movie and in the book Rick deckard seems more like a underdog not having a real animal and only now getting his first serious case he also seems to show a lot more emotion.
@jamesloymartin
@jamesloymartin 7 жыл бұрын
The main reason you know Deckard's not an android is that he can fuse with Mercier. Androids can't do that.
@reverendbluejeans1748
@reverendbluejeans1748 6 жыл бұрын
If he is a Android he is bad fighter
@Alex_Penjamin
@Alex_Penjamin 4 жыл бұрын
But his eyes are red for 2 seconds
@josecortez5213
@josecortez5213 3 жыл бұрын
Wilbur
@ranfan1820
@ranfan1820 2 жыл бұрын
@@josecortez5213 Bill Bur Mercer
@lewiscranston881
@lewiscranston881 8 жыл бұрын
I agree that Hampton Fancher did a good job of loosely adapting the book, but I would still liked to have seen the android police department and Phil Riesch.
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 7 жыл бұрын
Play the video game. The android police department is in it. The game, by the way, is one of those unicorns of gaming. It's a game based on a movie, but *both* are good. It features voice work by several of the original stars (plus a pre-fame Lisa Edelstein), and takes place at the same time as the movie. In fact, if you do the right thing at the right time, you can catch a glimpse of Deckard in a photo as you run it through the Esper. If you don't, he's missing.
@RideMyBMW
@RideMyBMW 5 жыл бұрын
the Replicant cops plotline is AWESOME!!! It shoulda been in 2049....
@deadlandplacebo1695
@deadlandplacebo1695 3 жыл бұрын
I pictured Phil resch as that sleazy guy from aliens
@lewiscranston881
@lewiscranston881 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadlandplacebo1695 good shout man. paul reiser would have been good for that role.
@LukeAvedon
@LukeAvedon 5 жыл бұрын
"An android," he said, "doesn't care what happens to another android. That's one of the indications we look for." "Then," Miss Luft said, "you must be an android." That stopped him; he stared at her.
@donviitoriodasicachiavi5555
@donviitoriodasicachiavi5555 3 жыл бұрын
@Luke Avedon For just a second I have a suspicione about me.I feel a relief when I realize how much care about...Others
@jiyon167
@jiyon167 8 жыл бұрын
The movie actually has Japanese look not Chinese. They're references to Japanese Geisha. And at the start the old guy who Deckard buys noodles from is speaking Japanese.
@cozyweatherfilms
@cozyweatherfilms 8 жыл бұрын
It's kind of both influences, and the Geisha stuff I can see and never thought about. It's like the whole world they live in is a huge mishmash of all the cultures of the world, so you could probably find influences from everywhere in the movie.
@rebootcomputa
@rebootcomputa 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah in the movie they do say (on my cut version anyway) that the spoken language is a mixture of Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, Spanish and others... cant remember
@denisdooley1540
@denisdooley1540 7 жыл бұрын
Also, Taffy Lewis' club is in "First Sector, Chinatown". This mismash is not an unreasonable imagining of what Los Angeles would be like in the future, from a 1982 perspective.
@hitachicordoba
@hitachicordoba 7 жыл бұрын
He does order four bowls of Japanese noodles "Futatsu wa juubun desu yo!" but later gets a bottle of Tsingtao after killing Zhora.
@ooloncolluphid7904
@ooloncolluphid7904 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this was an intentional hodgepodge, just with a strong Japanese bent. Look at Firefly, for another example. There are myriad cultural influences, but Chinese is most prevalent without _dominating._
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: In the book Deckard's main motivation for killed Andies was wanting to get enough money to buy a major animal, like the ultimate status symbol in a world that had few animals left. The wife is shrewish at the start.
@kessler_could_not_care
@kessler_could_not_care 8 жыл бұрын
Read the book. Never watched the movie. Book is amazing
@yusefendure
@yusefendure 7 жыл бұрын
Watch the film. The book is amazing, but so is the Director's Cut of Blade Runner.
@67kingdedede
@67kingdedede 6 жыл бұрын
Yusef Endure i much preferred the final cut
@chasey4069
@chasey4069 5 жыл бұрын
EvilEyebrowBoy Read the book and just finished the movie. Love the book more but they’re still amazing.
@pookypoo1169
@pookypoo1169 4 жыл бұрын
Its way better.
@Elliott.Revell
@Elliott.Revell 4 жыл бұрын
You wierdo
@marezesim8119
@marezesim8119 5 жыл бұрын
it IS ok to like BOTH.. never understood why people insist you have to like one or the other better.. love bladerunner.. RIP Rutger Hauer
@FCBertrandJr
@FCBertrandJr 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is one has a question mark at the end of its title, the other does not.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO In the movie, having Deckard be human is essential to the plot (inhumane humans persecuting humane replicants). Also Deckard is too weak to be a replicant. All the replicants he fights with are able to whup him in a fight if Deck has no gun. Rachael never has a physical contest or fight with him; she is enamored of him. Nothwithstanding, The Director says he is a replicant; Harrison Ford says he is not (much as I argue on plot); original screen writer says it is ambiguous. So have it your way.
@deadlandplacebo1695
@deadlandplacebo1695 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that when deckard takes the test in the book it's to test whether he has empathy for androids (especially female ones) not whether or not he's human
@realrudy735
@realrudy735 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it innately proves both answers though, in showing he has empathy for androids, it shows he is human because androids don't truly feel for each other
@Fleury4
@Fleury4 Жыл бұрын
He took the test before the story starts. That’s what he’s referencing.
@mwont
@mwont Жыл бұрын
​@@Fleury4In the book there is implied that you can get Android version of a person and substitute for real. So Decker in the book can be Android.
@travisbrown9936
@travisbrown9936 8 ай бұрын
@@mwontif that had happened he wouldn’t have passed the test he took after retiring Luba luft
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 8 жыл бұрын
No discussion on the frog in the end? It was kind of a big deal! I enjoyed this video, but for future notes - slowing down would be better - I spent more than 5 minutes backing up the track to try to understand what you'd just said, so you didn't really save any time for me. 20 minutes would have been fine!
@cozyweatherfilms
@cozyweatherfilms 8 жыл бұрын
+Maddy James Sorry, I was also making this for a school project and didn't want to make it super long for that. Thank you for the feedback though, the next one I work on I will keep that in mind.
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 8 жыл бұрын
Username Hype Ah, that makes sense. Well, it was still an enjoyable video and it wasn't meant as nasty criticism, I promise. :D
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the correction. It's been a while since I've read it.
@yusefendure
@yusefendure 7 жыл бұрын
You mean toad. Agreed.
@totaltotalmonkey
@totaltotalmonkey 6 жыл бұрын
According to the book there are two main differences between a toad and a frog. Frogs stay near water but toads can hop off and live in a desert. Secondly, toads can not jump nearly as well as frogs.
@briankentpirrie5228
@briankentpirrie5228 8 жыл бұрын
blade runner month in november in 2019.
@probot6515
@probot6515 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Kent Pirrie yep
@RadRogue1
@RadRogue1 5 жыл бұрын
I can hardly wait. I hope it rains.
@tanya3615
@tanya3615 5 жыл бұрын
yep right now bby
@Mrchair-bk5ns
@Mrchair-bk5ns 5 жыл бұрын
@@RadRogue1 Well, it's raining fellas. This November. Dubai has just experienced heavy rainfall. It rained so bad that buildings such as Dubai Mall started to flood.
@christoffer4862
@christoffer4862 4 жыл бұрын
In Sweden the cinemas are showing Blade Runner in December 2020.
@brianhunt1748
@brianhunt1748 7 жыл бұрын
I think the mood wheel is a cool allusion to humans being android themselves.
@rebootcomputa
@rebootcomputa 8 жыл бұрын
Best scene of the movie, completely improvised by Rutger Hauer.
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus 6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine how Deckard could be a replicant when every replicant in the film, except Rachel, kicked his ass.
@ivanrosario247
@ivanrosario247 3 жыл бұрын
There were different kinds of replicants.
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanrosario247 So obviously the police department would have the replicant that acts completely human and gets its ass kicked constantly. Because no problem with the police having a replicant in violation of law. Just like Deckard having no problem with replicants being on Earth as long as they're not a "hazard," even though he's a cop and the opening crawl says he's under orders to terminate any replicant on detection, as long as she isn't Rachel. I mean, seriously, you give a director 10+ years to revise and re-edit a film and clearly he'll end up being a "genius."
@johnshogskins4443
@johnshogskins4443 9 ай бұрын
@@Cryptonymicushe’s a Nexus 7.
@eymerichinquisitore9022
@eymerichinquisitore9022 2 жыл бұрын
The book is definitely better than Scott's movie. A cinematic adaptation faithful to Dick's text would be interesting.
@robin-scottjohnson2013
@robin-scottjohnson2013 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the whole point of the book and Mercerism was that only humans have empathy, and that machines can never make a moral choice.
@tont760
@tont760 8 ай бұрын
In the book it is suggested that groups like the Nazis could use Mercerism to... It trails off. The meaning, I think, is that horrible people use God to justify horrible deeds.
@feameldo
@feameldo 7 ай бұрын
In case it would be so, it would be a very tragical dilemma for humans whether to feel compassion for robots. Because humans cannot turn off they empathy, on the fear of becoming inhuman; but robots have none to begin with. Kinda like in "Ex Machina" movie.
@tont760
@tont760 7 ай бұрын
@@feameldo Yes, but this notion of Rick's is continually challenged to the point where we may realize that androids are capable of this empathic exchange, even more so than humans.
@yusefendure
@yusefendure 7 жыл бұрын
Another huge difference between the book and the films is that the story is set in San Francisco; not L.A.
@ChristopherGHope
@ChristopherGHope 6 жыл бұрын
And Deckard meets Rachael at the Rosen Association headquarters (Tyrell Corporation in the film), located in Seattle!
@geoffbullyn8297
@geoffbullyn8297 3 жыл бұрын
Morphology, Longevity, Incept dates¿ A concise and in-depth comparison great work and intuitive video to this iconic Film
@YK-jn2kp
@YK-jn2kp 4 жыл бұрын
"If our memories could be stored and transfered to others. Are you willing to expose your deepest secrets to others?"
@Aras_Uyar
@Aras_Uyar 5 ай бұрын
where is this line from?
@Roguecellmedia
@Roguecellmedia 8 жыл бұрын
The book is much better. It has a sort of religious/philosophical angle. Ishidores a brilliant character in the book. He turns it into a comedy, especially when he tries to repair a real cat.
@Roguecellmedia
@Roguecellmedia 8 жыл бұрын
For me the most disturbing thing I ever read would be in David Alexanders Dark Messiah, when a contam... basically a zombie... but this one has been enhanced into a massive monster, smashes someones head open and skull fucks em until they're dead, maybe that, or how an ex prostitute has a habit of distracting guards by letting them fuck her in the arse (to me that's totally screwed up)... David alexander describes damaged tissue as food "he covered his eye's before the nuclear blast turned his eyes into beef burgers", every wound is described with surgical pricision, right down to piss spraying onto internal organs from the bladder and other gory details. But yeah, the spider bit was pretty bad, how the androids laugh and joke, but Ishidore freaks out and tries to protect it. Books are fucked up sometimes.
@totaltotalmonkey
@totaltotalmonkey 6 жыл бұрын
The spider had eight legs slowly cut down to none, there where eight androids slowly cut down to none.
@tont760
@tont760 8 ай бұрын
Isidore translates to Isis, goddess known for generosity. She has a son, Horus, also the name of the cat that dies. Horus is equivalent to Jesus Christ, hence we have a resurrection, but interestingly with electric, Android replacement.
@ReubenAStern
@ReubenAStern 8 ай бұрын
@@Resentius may I recommend metamorphosis by Franz Kafka?
@DivinePollination
@DivinePollination 7 жыл бұрын
I listened to an interview from Philip K. Dick on KZbin two years ago, of which I'm sadly unable to find anymore (although a similar discussion is in the book "The Last Interview: And Other Conversations"), where he mentioned how he came to the story of "Do Androids Dream..." by studying the Nazi's, and a Nazi's private journal in particular. He was fascinated about their lack of empathy, and considered them emotionally deficient humans, like an android would be. On the converse side he also wondered about how those who fought the Nazi's would have to put aside their empathy and feelings in order to fight psychopaths, and how they might end up becoming the very evil they were fighting, which was Deckard. In this way, he stated the screenplay differed slightly from his book, because Roy Batty and the replicants were painted in a more sympathetic light, with Roy Batty becoming more human (when it was originally only Rachel becoming more human), but Deckard was still rightly painted as less empathetic than he originally was because he had to sacrifice some of his humanity. This theme of sympathizing with artificial intelligence and machines has been prevalent in the entertainment industry over the past thirty years or so, and it is a shame. Humans are ternary beings in that they have thoughts, feelings, and actions, while psychopaths and machines are binary beings, having mostly thoughts and actions, and being what Dick called "emotionally deficient". His book was a reflective look at the dynamics of psychopathy, but the movie was a sympathetic look at psychopathy.
@dwangnoderbora
@dwangnoderbora 7 жыл бұрын
Psychopaths aren't human?
@logancaine9616
@logancaine9616 7 жыл бұрын
Alpha Zalgo Humans who lack emotions.
@todddoom
@todddoom 7 жыл бұрын
I am gona read the book again
@annamitchell9875
@annamitchell9875 6 жыл бұрын
Do you mean this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZWaiYCkorWai80
@damonplay8185
@damonplay8185 6 жыл бұрын
Psychopaths are still humans. And not every psychopath is a criminal far from it. So having a sympathetic look at psychopaths is nothing I'd describe as a shame. The only thing I'd describe as a shame is the lack of material featuring viewpoints opposed to that.
@gravityhamster
@gravityhamster 4 жыл бұрын
In the book the Andes had a 4 year life cycle but that was a manufacturing limitation not a designed one.
@s.mas.w
@s.mas.w 5 жыл бұрын
1st- Dick wrote Deckard as a human so that settles it. Its HIS story. Love ya Ridley but bad idea to change the story cannon in that way. 2nd- From seeing this at the theater in 82 as a 16 year old kid until today with all of the different “versions” of the film i NEVER believed Deckard to be a Replicant of any generation. Why? The fight with Leon. I never bought the “Deckard was a previous generation replicant” argument. If he was such an inferior “replicant” who got his ass kicked so easy (it was like Pee Wee Herman fighting Mike Tyson) he had no business being a Bladerunner in the first place. I think since Dick died during filming Ridley knew he could make Deckard a replicant and no one would stop him, although Harrison did try. Thank you Mr Ford for that.
@sumchi3690
@sumchi3690 4 жыл бұрын
of course they knew the book, as you point out so many similarities. ione i’d ..example is that some of the andies kept their names
@user-yv2cz8oj1k
@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын
Not paying the author you stole your ideas from?
@jessew3047
@jessew3047 2 жыл бұрын
the movie and the book asked different questions they are similar but in many ways very different. the movie asks are androids human?. the book asks am i an android?. this is why our favorite chicken head is not a prominent figure in the movie but is one of the most important characters in the book.
@ArcadeMusicTribute
@ArcadeMusicTribute 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is so special to me. It is one of my top 5 movies of all time together with Alien 1979. I can't believe I've only watched it for the first time in 2006. It somehow always sliped away from me in the 80s and 90s but I do remember seeing the final roof scene - the "tears in the rain" dialogue on a VHS tape at some point. I don't know when that was and I don't remember why I hadn't watched the whole movie back then. I didn't read the book but the changes that you've mentioned mostly worked for me. I just love this movie so much. Every scene is so special. I think my favorite scenes are in the beginning - the first one and then the one where Decard meets Rachel for the first time. The music is just something else.... I can't even begin to describe how awesome I find this movie and even the special effecst were way ahead of its time. The only thing I really disliked were the versions that featured the Decard naration. That was horrible.There was just something about these late 70s and 80s movies where they had a somewhat low budget and they were able to really deliver on it.
@patrickmccormack4318
@patrickmccormack4318 6 жыл бұрын
Ridely should have claimed a close spiritual feel to Philip's work. Pride and prejudice is systemic in driving artistic license, but it works and ... the universe expands.
@craignorth5625
@craignorth5625 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that in the original movie (the one Philip liked) only one Android was killed going through the Grid at Tyrell Corporation.
@DailyProg
@DailyProg 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I hope you got A+ in your course
@Phamtomdark
@Phamtomdark 7 жыл бұрын
Dude you know the Author of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" said before he died that Decker and all life that was still planet side was actually android life, the point of Decker taking the test on himself and find himself to be a human is part of the message (likewise the test isn't ever considered as 100%); If you can't tell the difference between X and Y, between a human and a replicant, then is there any real difference at all and after that Decker questions what it means to be human. Furthermore at the end of the book Decker needs to use a machine to put himself to sleep because he was too stressed, and at the beginning of the story Decker is obsessed with getting a real animal because his synthetic sheep sucks. Though it's not as for sure as it is in the movie at the end of the book you as the reader as suppose to question Decker's Humanity while Decker questions what it means to be human.
@VictorLima-rs7ej
@VictorLima-rs7ej 6 жыл бұрын
Verde_Manzana Gareth he doesn’t use the machine to sleep at the end, his wife intended to use it on him but he fell asleep before she used it
@ghosttogether
@ghosttogether 8 жыл бұрын
"But in the book he is definitely human. He took the void kampf test on himself and shown no sign of being a replicant." A replicant who was built to be indistinct from a human being must himself successfully pass the test as a human being. The running theme of the movie was the Tyrell building the next version of a replicant who isn't aware that they are.
@dwangnoderbora
@dwangnoderbora 7 жыл бұрын
For the movie that doesn't work, the entire conflict between Roy and Rick, man and machine, the reversal of empathy between the organic and the artificial, it all turns into a glorified, high tech Robot Wars episode. In DADOES I thought the point was supposed to be that it doesn't matter, but I read it imagining Rick as a human, the story just works better with that contrast.
@totaltotalmonkey
@totaltotalmonkey 6 жыл бұрын
But he never took the Boneli Reflex-Arc Test, which (from the description) sounds simpler and more reliable than than Voigt-Kampff Empathy Test everything2.com/title/Boneli+Reflex-Arc+Test
@user-yv2cz8oj1k
@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын
It works better off you can't be sure if either is human, a bit like the Turing test, except where the tester may or may not be human, is their test of the artificial intelligence valid of they also are not human?.
@Alex_...34565
@Alex_...34565 Жыл бұрын
well, in the book, it was a theme that the void kanpf test might actually not work on the nexus-6 generation of andys. This is the reason he sometimes seems to doubt himself. It could possibly be that he slipped through the test. This would not be able with the bournelli-test, but he took the void-kampf test. The only thing that makes it clear that he is in fact human and not an andy is that he is able to connect to mercer and the andys can't do that, no matter how hatd they try.
@mwont
@mwont Жыл бұрын
In the book it clearly says that nexus 7 will be able to pass the test. It is also stated that Androids would be perfect for hunting other Androids. So Decker can be nexus 7.
@jorgenpinoy1724
@jorgenpinoy1724 5 жыл бұрын
The details in blade runner are amazing, lots of thing from the book are in it...
@wolfgangbuck841
@wolfgangbuck841 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah! That mood organ would be a trip in real life! Lol I'd burn mine up trying to stay in a good mood.
@veetour
@veetour 4 жыл бұрын
The 80s saxophone music was hot!
@Cinemaphile7783
@Cinemaphile7783 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Vangelis
@DouglasDavis
@DouglasDavis 3 жыл бұрын
excellent analysis.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: HAMPTON FANCHER is the original screen writer. He stated that after his 3rd re-write (or so) he stopped using material from the Electric Sheep novel. So I doubt that it is true to say that he never read the novel. I don't think it is accurate to call Ridley Scott the screen writer, tho he did put it together & cut out this & that, added the unicorn I believe.
@custer2449
@custer2449 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included the best scene in the movie. I really felt for the character Roy Batty.
@ConnieLynchitzWhoElse
@ConnieLynchitzWhoElse 3 жыл бұрын
Philip's book is a scattershot of unrealized themes; religion, humanity, commercialism, vanity, you-name-it fused in a futuristic dystopian detective neo-noir world that never really delivers in its short 200 or so pages. It's big on premise but leaves you dissatisfied if you're familiar with the film. Ridley Scott's vision is the definitive version. Dick is a great writer, and a visionary, but Blade Runner as a movie is a rare case of movie surpassing the book.
@garyburley2283
@garyburley2283 5 жыл бұрын
Username Hype, perhaps i can solve a mystery of the book and film, not that one. In 1982 i saw the film as a fifteen year old. i went and bought the book and read it. i enjoyed the book but couldn't equate the book and the film but felt strangely that both were masterpieces. over the years i went and read everything that PKD wrote. over the years i discovered that Hampton fancher was not only a close friend of PKD for decades when he was alive, but had managed to play homage to nearly half of the books PKD had written. for instance, the leader Roy Batty is based on the look of the assassin robot in 'Solar Lottery'. the City in Blade Runner is closer to the underground Metropolis described in detail in 'The Penultimate Truth'. The flying cars are closer to the Flying police cars in 'Counter Clock World'. many of the characters that PKD wrote were re-used throughout other novels that he wrote. that is the genius of Hampton Fancher in playing homage to his friend PKD. my conclusion is that Blade runner introduces a first time reader of PKD unconciously to nearly every book PKD has ever written in one easter egg filled movie, Literally (literally).
@josecortez5213
@josecortez5213 3 жыл бұрын
The empathy machine.
@canundrumsixnine6830
@canundrumsixnine6830 7 жыл бұрын
I see the comparison of Androids to Replicants, with the commonly known today Android with Asimov's Humaniform Robot.
@travisdamkroger5648
@travisdamkroger5648 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot Hampton Fancher, the other screen that actually sat down with Philip K. Dick and co-wrote the screenplay for the first and second Blade Runner.
@arphaksad01
@arphaksad01 3 жыл бұрын
Wish there were more movies set in the Blade Runner world
@Ninthsignmusic
@Ninthsignmusic 3 жыл бұрын
There’s this movie called Mute. Imo the movie sucks, but the aesthetics somewhat remind me of Blade Runner
@Alex_...34565
@Alex_...34565 Жыл бұрын
i think blade runner is kind of one of those pieces of media that i personally like to call "untouchables". Another example would be harry potter or the star wars movies. These concepts are verry cool concepts and many people wish there would be similar stories, similar worlds, but the problem is that if people attemped to do this, make a similar story/world, maybe not even directly thinking about the franchise they are similar to, people would accuse them of copying this because it had such a great impact on society and is such a highly rated and loved thing that it is put onto a pedestral and the similar movie would be hated because it is a bad and unoriginal and stealing etc. (even if it was not really a copy). Therefore, there can not really be movies similar to bladerunner, sadly (or at least nobody dares to do so). This is why there is so little cyberpunk media, which i find sad because i LOVE cyberpunk. If you want a cyberpunky story, you could read snowcrash or ready player 1&2 (way deeper than the movie). Both are really good books, I read them myself. You could also read the neuromancer trilogy, i have, however, not yet read them myself but they are THE example for cyberpunk fiction if you look it up on google. For movies, there would be minority report, total recall and ghost in the shell (an anime). For the topic of empathy & androids etc. there is also the movie ex machina, it is however TOTALLY NOT CYBERPUNK. It is clean, modern 2010th style scifi. But a verry verry good movie. I am sure there are more movies (I am actually not certain about more books, sadly), but these are the ones i could think of.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: The Replicants of the movie are not all that sinister, they act humane vs inhumane humans who only exploit & murder them. All their killings can be seen as self-defense vs murderous humans. The replicant Rachael saves Deckard's life & kills another REplicant to save him. She teaches the unloving Deckard to love. The replicant Roy saves Deckard's life, pulling him up from falling off a building (with a Christlike nail in his hand) at a time when Deckard is trying to kill Roy. The Replicants per story are instruments of teaching Deckard to be humane again, if he ever had been humane.
@dinkusstinkus4396
@dinkusstinkus4396 7 жыл бұрын
his wife was super against him being a bounty hunter though, I thought? I seem to remember a scene where she called him "a filthy murderer for cops"
@Jcush21
@Jcush21 7 жыл бұрын
...he patted her bare, pale shoulder."Get your crude cop's hand away." Iran said."I'm not a cop." He felt irritable, now, although he hadn't dialed for it."You're worse," his wife said, her eyes still shut. "You're a murderer hired by the cops."
@sethpajak
@sethpajak 4 ай бұрын
Great video, I’m reading the book now. Only thing I would add is that in the book I get the sense that the cities are in a state of decay and not so much futuristic skyscrapers. I get the impression everything is run down and decrepit.
@FellVoice
@FellVoice 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 8 жыл бұрын
You actually did job explaining the movie the best than other people reviews.I've never read the book but i want to.I like the movie Somehow the movie might had been teaching that life and love is more stronger than what people are on the outward appearance.Just I came up with after seeing this.
@kingbyrd.1512
@kingbyrd.1512 5 жыл бұрын
Question. What the hell does a laser tube look like?
@byron2521
@byron2521 5 жыл бұрын
Well..... Scott had to of got some clues from someone who read the book because there are Easter Eggs from the book, that I always thought were there for those that read the book, that someone that had not read the book would not notice. Just to name one: the Asian girl ad on the building taking the pill and smiling. If you have not read the book you probably didn't think anything of that. But in the book they live in a drugged culture, much Ike in the movie TXH-1138. So I don't think that was random. And there are others. The character name changes are immaterial. However, The J.F. Sebastian character is not the same in the book. His was the biggest character change. Other small detail like Decard is still married in the book might have been a P.C. choice? Because in the book he still has an affair with Rachel. However, in the book she is a "pleasure" model as well, just like Priss. In the movie Decard is free to run off into the sunset and live happily ever after. Hard-core book people often criticize a movie for departing from the book. However, movies are movies and books are books. A lot of what is in the book would not translate well on film. A lot of the intricate details that are interesting in a book would be boring on film. One of the earliest sci-fi books I read was 2001. The opening scene with the apes takes up about 1/3rd to nearly 1/2 of the book. Yet it is maybe 3 or 4 minutes of the film. This is O.K. because 45 minutes of Moon-watcher staring at the moon in amazement, although interesting in the book, may be a little boring on film. (Moon-watcher is the name of the ape that kills the other ape) SO...... again, movies are movies and books are books.
@pats3714
@pats3714 4 жыл бұрын
His inablity to take care of animals always struck me - in the book. But whether he's a replicant or not isn't the central theme, it's about what makes a human, human. Lots of kids pull legs off spiders, does that mean they're not human? Or maybe it's about a developing humanity in the replicants, like now they're acting like spoilt kids, but there are plenty of signs they're developing a true human conciousness. - just being existentially challenged, as some of the protaganists seem to be, should be a clue. Anyway, the title of the book and the fact Deckard seems happy with an electronic toad at the end gives food for thought, especially in this age of increasingly sophisticated sex robots. Personally, I think conciousness is an unexplained mystery, and I have my doubts as to whether anything mechanical can replicate it, as opposed to giving a simulation. And, at the end of the day, that is what all this is about. As a thought experiment I sometimes ponder what would happen if you tied up some living creature, an amoeba say, to give an extreme example, to a bunch of neurological links. After all we started out as something similar.
@mickcowell5353
@mickcowell5353 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps bro, I used so many of your points in my comparative task for my English subject
@sir1thomas1
@sir1thomas1 7 жыл бұрын
The original writer Hamton Fancher did read the book but didn't enjoy it however thought it had potential for a film. Peoples was brought in because Fancher's script was to limited to rooms and didn't take the film outside.
@tkmad7470
@tkmad7470 4 жыл бұрын
I'm normally one of those "The book is so much better" types, but in this case I thought the movie is infinitely better. So much clearer and a much better rational from the android point of view.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere Жыл бұрын
One of the neatest parts of the movie for me was the use of the photo analyzer (shown in your video at 11:10) I just thought that was really clever and made it seem like something that could be real.
@denisdooley1540
@denisdooley1540 7 жыл бұрын
Also, PKD just plain didn't have access to the idea of genetic engineering. As I recall, the androids in DADOES were mechanical. Incorporation what was then relatively new science on genetic engineering before GMOs were the widespread reality that they are today was a great way to modernize the story and keep it futuristic while also further the blurring of the difference between human and A.I. beings.
@terriblycharismaticduck2717
@terriblycharismaticduck2717 7 жыл бұрын
Denis Dooley Also, in the book, the Rosen Corporation didn't know how to create an android that could live past four years. In the movie, the Tyrell Corporation used it as a failsafe.
@denisdooley1540
@denisdooley1540 7 жыл бұрын
The screenplay did make some cleaver adaptations of elements found in the book. I'll add that to the list. Great observation.
@dwangnoderbora
@dwangnoderbora 7 жыл бұрын
It makes the most sense in the story for the replicants/androids to be sort of like a terminator, with a human exterior (maybe even human bones) but ultimately a computer/robotic brain. Otherwise, the fully genetically engineered organisms are the same as something that's already found in nature.
@craignorth5625
@craignorth5625 3 жыл бұрын
“More life,” means children. They came as pairs. Rachael had no life span yet she would die. Roy knew she could have off spring but it would not be with Deckard. Figure that one out!!!
@CookingwithYarda
@CookingwithYarda 3 жыл бұрын
Blade Runner is my favourite movie ;-) Thank you !!
@tont760
@tont760 8 ай бұрын
Scott did a great job on the film. No question. But what happens with a PKD movie translation is that the really engaging scientific, psychological, and religious aspects that demonstrate PKD's genius and versatility are substituted out for action and more action because a film needs action. Total Recall is an even bigger example of this. But at the end of the day, it's the book tjat shines. I habe lectures on my channel that covers this novel from beginning to end, and its crazy to read through what people thought they heard about this book as opposed to actually reading it and forming their own valid opinion. It is nice to know that PKD saw early stills of Blade Runner before he died, and he really liked what he saw. For that reason alone i will always love the movie, too.
@eyebrowsguy9219
@eyebrowsguy9219 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison dude, love the film and I've always been interested in the book, now i think ill give it a read.
@cozyweatherfilms
@cozyweatherfilms 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael “Eyebrows” Murphy thank you
@drjthornley
@drjthornley 4 жыл бұрын
That was great. I enjoyed your take immensely. Thank you.
@russellschaeffler
@russellschaeffler 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has already been stated, but at 1:07 you talk about the Chinese look, that is in fact Japanese.
@nexxxus7498
@nexxxus7498 3 жыл бұрын
Read the book... watched the movie... both are unique unto themselves!!! Loved the movie, liked the book!!!
@TheCharnstar
@TheCharnstar 7 жыл бұрын
How the hell did Gullivers Travels try to pawn itself off as the book? I don't think ANYONE was under the misguided belief that it would be anything like the book.
@eviljim292
@eviljim292 Жыл бұрын
I would Definitely pick the movie, but I loved the book too !!
@thisismyname007
@thisismyname007 4 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the movie version of The Three Sigmata of Eldritch Palmer!
@1300l
@1300l 7 жыл бұрын
Funny is that the best Blade Runner story for me is from the 1996 game. So amazing to have a game that feel and look as well expand the universe of Blade Runner and Do Androids Dream of Eletric Sheep
@jplittle1987
@jplittle1987 7 жыл бұрын
1300l The game was brilliant, deserves some sort of remake. My only problem was the voice acting. And the weird giant rats that you have to kill - didnt seem to fit. But the expansion of the world was great and I thought it was a good cross between the book and film.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: There are so many cuts & deleted scenes available for this movie. I did see Deckard's wife (Iran in book) mentioned as having left him & in a long version of the end Rachael asks if he (had) loved his wife. "I thought I did."
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 5 жыл бұрын
In the voice-over in the original version, Deckard mentions that he had an ex-wife who left him for a man who could go off-world.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: I don't remember in the book Deckard doing sex w/ Rachael in order to get her out of his system before murdering Pris, as if doing sex w/ a woman wud make it easier to kill her -- only if you are a monster.
@jimburley5871
@jimburley5871 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic movie I have thought about it for years and even personified parts of my life after Roy. A true jem of inspiration for personification.
@bladerunnerdeckard836
@bladerunnerdeckard836 5 жыл бұрын
November 2019.
@espada9
@espada9 Жыл бұрын
In the movie replicants and animals are NOT electronic but organic genetic replicants.
@electrotab
@electrotab 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus 3 жыл бұрын
All those moments will be lost. Yeah, except that memories can be transferred so no "moments" ever need be lost. But, hey, it's great we should all feel sympathy for the guy who slotted 23 people before hijacking a shuttle. And if Roy's incept date is 2016 why is he "expiring" in 2019? Oh, right, the math and continuity problem again. Ridley is such a genius.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: In the movie it shud not be thot that he starts to have affection for Rachael only after he has sex w/ her; before that, she killed Leon the Replicant who was about to kill Deckard, saving him. Before that, he called her & asked her to meet him for a date. The narrative voice over is consistent w/ him having affection for her by that point.
@k.arlanebel6732
@k.arlanebel6732 5 жыл бұрын
Ridley Scott knew next to nothing about Philip K. Dick and didn't care what his views were. He had the legal rights to use the basic material in Dick's book and proceeded to make a movie that expressed views that were actually opposed to those of Philip K. Dick. Blade Runner expresses Ridley Scott's views starting from a basic premise created by Dick. Scott and Dick have nearly nothing in common. Just seeing Blade Runner will tell you very little about Philip K. Dick. The movie is not about Philip K. Dick, it's about Ridley Scott. Philip K. Dick did not believe for a moment that an android could ever become human or could ever be a meaningful substitute for a human. What he believed is that humans have the capacity to resist and deny what makes them human. And this is the root of evil in the human. For Dick, the creation of androids expresses the human fear of the deep challenges that arise in being consciously human. It is an attempt to escape reality and it will lead to nihilism and destruction. This does not mean that Dick had no vision of further human evolution as positive. But the creation of androids does not express this human evolution, but rather a resistance in fear to this evolution. In the movie Scott says that Deckard might as well have a 'love' relationship with the android Rachel because it's ultimately not different from a relationship with a human. But in the book, Rachel is a meaningless monster that Deckard is tempted by, but finally sees through.
@thecarrotmonster8827
@thecarrotmonster8827 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is, Deckered is not a fucking replicant! That change alone shows Ridley Scott never read the book and didn't get the whole point of the film
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 7 жыл бұрын
A couple of further facts: 1. The tie-in with the book was not coincidental. It is from the first screenwriter, Hampton Fancher, who did read it. The book is what started him writhing the screenplay. 2. The end monologue was not 100% improvised. Most of it was scripted or modified from the script. His line about tears in rain was improvised, and Hauer cut a lot of the 300 word monologue, with Scott's final acquiescence. Enjoyed your comparo, esp. after escaping from the Lost Orphan's one, which had some kind of horrible voice-under and other annoying touches.
@ryanhunter226
@ryanhunter226 7 жыл бұрын
2:56 I guess Gaff is like the film version of Phil Resch
@irvhh143
@irvhh143 4 жыл бұрын
Deckard and Gaf/Resch are character foils. They have similar jobs and status. Resch got burned by an andy and simply turns off his emotions, like a butcher at a slaughterhouse. Deckard becomes more introspective and undergoes character growth.
@Vebinz
@Vebinz 8 жыл бұрын
Hey great video! However great the book is, the movie will always have the dvantage of the unforgettable visuals and music.
@resonant.interval
@resonant.interval 4 жыл бұрын
dvantage - a Freudian typo if I've ever seen one
@Vebinz
@Vebinz 2 жыл бұрын
@@resonant.interval I don't see how one missing letter, "a", is a freudian slip?
@thetruthhurts4054
@thetruthhurts4054 6 жыл бұрын
In the second blade runner deckard is shown to be a replicant.
@cliffc2937
@cliffc2937 4 жыл бұрын
I hope a film more true to the novel is made. Maybe an animated film??
@fortgrove3166
@fortgrove3166 2 жыл бұрын
He is not a replication because he only has human strength. If he was a replicant, he will have the strength to easily take them down. Kowalski almost easily killed him. Also, he could have easily snatched his hands from Roy, instead of getting his fingers broken.
@andrewdeen1
@andrewdeen1 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lenny James is playing 'Mercer' in the sequel..
@MM-op6ti
@MM-op6ti 10 ай бұрын
In the book it’s also not clear if Decker is a replicant since there are doubts about the test. If the test doesn’t work then how would anyone know? He also similarly lacks all empathy and continued to kill them even after sleeping with Rachel, who is pretty evil in the book.
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 жыл бұрын
must be talking about the cityscape.. because the book was totally different. J.F persona it totally different from the book..he is not a chicken head in the movie.. he doesn't listen to buster friendly all day and Mercerisum is nonexistent .. Well you made my point the movie was nothing like the book.
@knonod669
@knonod669 2 жыл бұрын
While I still enjoy the movie, having recently finally read the book I kinda wish the screenplay would have followed the book word for word.
@brunandre
@brunandre 3 жыл бұрын
just finished reading the book. great video! agreed.
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 7 жыл бұрын
Really hope Scott's _'BR: 2049'_ doesn't marr the sci-fi masterpiece that was the original but, with the track record that sequel films have, especially nowadays?... I'm already starting to feel down...
@wolfgangbuck841
@wolfgangbuck841 6 жыл бұрын
Cool. Like your vid, man! 👍👍 Do more! I need more! Do BladeRunner2049 Prometheus, Soldier and Firefly.
@megavide0
@megavide0 Жыл бұрын
0:52 // I never actually noticed the guy pouring tea in the lower right corner of the screen. Is that Ridley Scott himself?
@christophergongora7885
@christophergongora7885 10 ай бұрын
Well now with Blade Runner 2049 he’s definitely human just lost empathy and Ridley probably screwing with people who miss that
@yellowdragon3301
@yellowdragon3301 4 жыл бұрын
Great job👏
@granderondeproductions3286
@granderondeproductions3286 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Rachel like the prototype model and that's why Priss looks like her or.. it? like a newer or similar model series. I read that whole book, was pretty good.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO: The theme of the movie is the Redemption of Deckard from being an inhumane human by the saving acts of humane robots. Both Rachael & Rob save Deckard's life, though Deckard was a robot killer. At the same time Deckard gets saved to being a humane human, tho at the end I wud have liked that cemented in: In a longer ending Rachael asks, "Are we lovers." Deckard says, "Yes," without much feeling. But I would like for him to save said it more tenderly: "Yes, you have taught me love." I don't recall such redemption in the book. The Mercerism religion of the book is off the wall to me.
@67kingdedede
@67kingdedede 6 жыл бұрын
Thunkful2 deckard is a replicant
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 7 жыл бұрын
I have read about half of the book and have all three versions of the movie. I like most of the changes they made but it would have been nice to see a sequel that was very close to the book.
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 7 жыл бұрын
There are *five* versions of the movie, not three. Original Theatrical Cut, International Cut, Director's Cut, Workprint Cut, and Final Cut. All were included when the Final Cut was released (I got the Collector's Edition, of course). I also have the Deluxe Edition of the Director's Cut, used to have the VHS of the Director's Cut, the faux soundtrack, the Vangelis Soundtrack, the Vangelis 25th Anniversary 3-Disk Soundtrack, the Blade Runner video game, Retrofitting Blade Runner (which contains a paper by a woman I used to date), the original fan magazine and the Marvel Super Special adaptation of the movie (both of which I bought new off the shelf), and the book. And before you ask, yes. Yes, I want a cookie.
@girlspooptoo8567
@girlspooptoo8567 7 жыл бұрын
WakenerOne You deserve one Sounds like you spent a lot of money
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 7 жыл бұрын
Well . . . Retrofitting Blade Runner was given to me as a gift by the girlfriend . . . but I did buy the Final Cut twice (the Collector's Edition I bought on DVD, because I didn't have a Blu-Ray player. When I got one, I bought the regular edition on Blu-Ray.
@eldel5806
@eldel5806 3 жыл бұрын
Iran was a major character in the book.
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