What's the favorite programming language for ICPC?

C++ beats the rest for most teams at ICPC2017

[@ATeima-kk5ps]

The reason most people choose c++ is the fact that c++ keeps getting more features while having good performance.

[@raianmr2843]

Not really. Most problem solving platforms are stuck at C++14, and the most popular ones (ICPC included) at C++17. And performance is a non issue as you'll be compared against others using the same language as you. The real reason people use C++ for this use case is that it hosts STL, which was only implemented in C++ because of generics and RAII, features that aren't exclusive to C++ anymore. The design of STL successfully abstracts away most of the counterintuitive grammar of C++ that pop right back up when you crawl out of this niche and start programming software. Other than that, AOT compilation is the second most important feature here. Online judges exist out of your domain of control, and so the determinism AOT compilation brings goes a long way. I'd say this C++ monoculture will persist for years to come because like I said before, the issues with C++ aren't relevant in this isolated niche, and no other big name languages are getting gifted with something like STL any time soon.

[@tanmaysingh3968]

and time limit too , its the best language to solve complex problems so at least time limit wont be a problem

[@ericxue3244]

@@raianmr2843 There are no features to my knowledge that are useful for cp in cpp20 that didn't exist in cpp17

[@sauyon]

I swear they asked me what my favorite programming language in general.

[@Maver1ck101]

Are you the last guy in the video?

[@sauyon]

yeahhhhhh

[@youssefel-shabasy833]

XxxD

[@ajaymalik4653]

@Ozzy jak they also have to code a lot

[@amogh708]

you look like an Anime character in real life, your profile pic

[@tilakmadichettitheappdeveloper]

for all the Java fans who got disappointed, Petr Mirtchev codes in java

[@vikramadityakukreja4795]

I find SPOJ really hates JAVA even after fast IO otherwise mostly other sites have no trouble

[@joelmeza9595]

Wait.. Tourist codes in C++

[@tomriddle2427]

but then the tourist codes in c++

[@tarunkr.9041]

Love java

[@shubhamjain3501]

Not true anymore :)

[@sourabhkhandelwal689]

C++ : 9, Java : 2, Rust : 1.

[@stem6109]

python 0

[@lordofwizard835]

Result.. Rust wins

[@astronaut22]

@@lordofwizard835 yes rust is very good

[@vectoralphaSec]

@@stem6109 Python is so good.

[@lshadowSFX]

@@vectoralphaSec and soo slow too.

[@Garentei]

The only reason one would use Python in competitive programming is if they use 1e+200000 sort of numbers

[@w47-p1e]

Do you realise how slow that would be

[@austinrowell7167]

@@w47-p1e I was going to say

[@raianmr2843]

literally no problem statement said ever

[@GMKirKon]

Well, it’s actually really easy for ICPC finalists to write BigInt with FFT/Karatsuba, it takes less than 10 minutes for such great programmers.

[@lancetv4826]

It's best for coding interview though, you can solve most problems with less code.

[@SarvpriyArya]

HTML

[@yacineelayar7385]

u make my day

[@indrit66]

HTML is not a steroid enhancment drug you fool. Prime mike tyson would have beaten c++

[@tazaoumur]

txt

[@II_xD_II]

F

[@DanielNyong]

JavaScript and Php

[@thetrainoflife8327]

C++ is boss , and especially STL , damm it's absolutely beautiful ❤️

[@luistheserrano4785]

STL is only for windows applications and crap like that with unlimited resources, the real hardcore stuff is done with pure C++ and your own matrix, arrays, etc. library

[@luistheserrano4785]

@@Karvalian using stl on linux is like using a Fiat panda engine in a Ferrari

[@vectoralphaSec]

@@Karvalian lol he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@benyao788]

@@Karvalian No. If it’s Kernel you’re referring to, C is mostly used in kernel. STL is shit, most companies don’t use STL.

[@venkateswarans1012]

0:33 🤔 he loves C++ more than Bjarne stroustrup.

[@II_xD_II]

you made my day lol

[@shashwatsingh253]

Python 0.25 😂

[@missilemahmood]

That's called getting headfucked 😂

[@duhancaraciolo]

that's me, I have 0 idea why I was shaking my head 💀

[@mrityunjay1357]

Guy in red at 0:33, damn those expressions🤣😂🤣😂

[@HermanWillems]

Internally thinking: WTF is this stupid question. C++ duhhh

[@anna_inu]

@@armanbolouri9440 c++ is gay

[@Artaxerxes.]

@@anna_inu c++ is gigachad

[@LongLiveIsrael-c7y]

I see what you did there with smileys

[@mrityunjay1357]

Have heard of Indian head bobble? Fuck, I am Indian too😂.

[@aymenmt1]

The only reason one would use Python in competitive programming is if they wanna lose and go home early .

[@dominobuilder100]

No, python is quite popular actually. Competitions nowadays always use pypy, a program that compiles python code and runs it as machine code. That’s why python is almost as fast as c++, and sometimes we choose python just because it is easier to implement some stuff in.

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

@@dominobuilder100and they all lose.

[@dominobuilder100]

@@user-tz9jh6pv2j absolutely not

[@Nilesh-pj9ip]

Actually for low rated questions python can work as efficiently as cpp, tl won't get exceeded

[@tdpencil2811]

C++ beats any other language in most things but not all.

[@devjeff3192]

What makes the C++ so popular for CP is because of its STL Library

[@soumitsaha22]

Java also has a collection class that is same as the stl of cpp

[@HermanWillems]

@@soumitsaha22 zero cost abstraction. Google it.

[@soumitsaha22]

@@HermanWillems ik... performance in java is slow than cpp...but for that java is given 2 times the required time limit

[@raianmr2843]

​@@soumitsaha22 Most languages have some common algorithms and data structures in their standard library, this isn't exclusive to Java. But the comparison of STL with these libraries/modules/packages is not a valid one. STL was a separate, comprehensive project spearheaded by someone who didn't have direct say in the development of the C++ standard. It was implemented in C++ because of the many qualities of the language. The library was then integrated into the language, gifting it with something that no other language enjoys even to this day. Learning STL is a long journey that is somewhat separate to learning C++ as a language or standard library. STL's design goals are actually unattainable using OOP exclusively. This is why compile-time generics, default arguments, operator overloading, etc. non-OOP features are used in it's implementation. This wouldn't have been possible in a language like Java where it's idiomatic to solve all these problems using OO solutions. Another factor that makes C++ different (and this is less relevant to competitive programming) is the Boost set of libraries. Boost is a separate project but many of it's libraries are now part of the C++ standard. Unlike early STL, Boost is maintained by people who do have a say in the language's development. It's perfectly ok to use Java if that's what you want, I just wanted to point out how C++ is different and what contributed to its popularity in this particular niche.

[@tusharagarwal5306]

The only reason is performance. Java has also collections, but still cpp is preferred.

[@wthxrsh]

bro at the end casually said RUST in ICPC

[@ismbks]

kek

[@reyaanuppal5007]

I see, Not any language is even close to C++ when it comes to competitive programming

[@anikethdeshpande8336]

But why ?

[@anikethdeshpande8336]

Please tell me why and how is cpp better than others.. Please tell me as I'm a beginner and want to pick up the best languages for competitive programming

[@khanhchung4103]

Aniketh Deshpande Im not a competitive programer but I know why C++ is really popular. Competitive programming is all about solving problems in a short time period and your solutions must be fast in performance. The reason why chose C++ is its the fastest language (in performance) which can be used to solve the problems (Assembly language is faster but it is hard to program). Many people say that C is faster but the truth is C and C++ almost have same speed, but C++ comes up with STL library which is really useful to use in competitive programming.

[@anikethdeshpande8336]

@@khanhchung4103 thank you

[@DFsdf3443d]

@@khanhchung4103 actually c++ is faster than assembly

[@tintin5915]

0:33 , ahhh that satisfaction

[@ATULSHARMA-cc1ju]

last guy talks like elon musk

[@RobertKing]

I've switched from Python/Go/C++ to Rust, it's great :)

[@michaelscott5653]

Lmao

[@astronaut22]

I also started to learn rust, it's really nice, so many things we can do with Rust

[@vectoralphaSec]

Switched? Why do people always say they switched as if you only learn one language and stick to it leaving the others behind.

[@RobertKing]

@@vectoralphaSec I mean for programming contests it's what I use, but for real world I use mostly typescript ha, rust increasing tho

[@raianmr2843]

@@vectoralphaSec they're talking about the language they primarily use lmao work on your comprehension

[@deathvall3y]

Rust guy 😍

[@tango2olo]

Can we have a computer language whose compiler has the sophistication as that of Rust's and whose syntax is as simple as that of Go??

[@HermanWillems]

not vlang.

[@subid.majumdar]

Yes we can

[@desrucca]

Well Vlang claims it is

[@raianmr2843]

Check out Odin. The guy behind it has written 100k+ lines of Go. And stay away from V, V is not a serious project.

[@ashulivechess]

Python?

[@LordLobov]

Assembly language

[@arkhamb]

Stack based

[@nirmalatiwari3295]

Lol

[@siddharthmagadum16]

I write in bits

[@vodanh1370]

@@siddharthmagadum16 :D

[@cooliotopnotch6287]

"Umm Hello? Based Department? You're gonna wanna see this comment."

[@Jaypatel-dw5vc]

didn't know rust was famous back in the day..

[@iam4lmir]

Simply because all programming languages are build and based on C, C++

[@solderbuff]

I think, Rust is self-hosted.

[@desrucca]

Rust : C who?

[@ElPikacupacabra]

@@solderbuff Still needs clib...

[@thegreekgoat98]

So, it means I took the fist step for being a good programmer

[@rameynoodles152]

Being a good programmer comes with experience. Don'tget too caught up in languages. Just pick one and learn it, then, later you can choose the language to meet the job.

[@user-pe9qg3hg3k]

Being a good programmer means knowing there isn't a 'right' language

[@samiulalomsium-t7i]

C++ : for competitive programming Python : data science JavaScript : web Java : enterprise/commercial real life usage

[@secahl]

ICPC kept that rust guy at the Last for a reason 🙏

[@nursultannazarov8379]

cope

[@shivamkumar-qp1jm]

I think people choose c++ especially for STL classes

[@saniyamansuri9607]

Feeling happy bcouz I m learning c/c++ 😀

[@vedx]

Binary is awesome though. 😬😂

[@MDSFreestyle]

c++

[@CrazyGamerSidh]

I like Java more than C++. Should I start practicing in C++ for competitive programming ?

[@music82936]

PolaBoy same question bro ... someone answer us please

[@amogh708]

In Java, there are so many things you've to remember and the code syntax is longer In C++, you only have to remember some general things for competitions and their implementation is very short Look how much i had to write just for i/o. Faster thinking, what to use which gives faster runtime is very important and using those general things in C++ you implement your own algorithm really fast. But definitely practice is needed to become familiar with the language and the general stuff that people commonly use A very basic example:- _Java_ Scanner sc=new Scanner(System.in); int a=sc.nextInt() System.out.println(a); _C++_ int a; cin>>a; cout

[@fajryariansyah6199]

@@amogh708 python : a = input() print(a)

[@MrPrince]

@@fajryariansyah6199 int(input()) instead

[@saibalne5631]

I wish i can understand what you guys are taking about

[@solomioist]

0:47 Go (lang) all the way, because it has nearly C++ performance and python level trouble shooting but without any limitations as in python.

[@HowDoYouUseSpaceBar]

hahahahahaha

[@hannahjohn2053]

How about Golang???

[@ayushmishra6077]

I knew there will a rust guy

[@vinhkhangtrankhuong7203]

c and c++ is a beast tbh, it's so fking fast.

[@phyrruskarimarmalgold3660]

C++ supremacy

[@codewithkolhar3131]

Visual basic anyone ??

[@hamimnasim9543]

meanwhile python lover: can anybody hear me !!!!!!

[@manoramapatra8091]

You said it... I have learnt only python😭

[@mrisholukamba1696]

The RUST guy💎💎💎

[@lordofwizard835]

HELL YEAH.. ALL HAIL THE ONE RUSTACEAN AMOMG THEM

[@gamebit9500]

I love c++

[@blockyquasar]

They put the nerdiest guy in the thumbnail lmaoo

[@AndoroidP]

For CP there's only c++, for daily development: rust

[@maheshbhat7075]

The subtitle/cc of this video 🤣

[@takeoffyoung2355]

Cause the ICPC World Final supports cpp only?

[@dragonballfan9997]

Where is my javascript?

[@takeuchi5760]

busy delaying some promise and returning undefined

[@luck13strike29]

Why people didn't use golang ?

[@AA-dt1od]

What's the name of last guy? And does he use rust for cp?

[@desrucca]

He literally commented on the comment section. The guy that swear he was asked about his fav prog language in general

[@ajeetstationajeet]

That rust guy is based

[@DarpaSeven]

C++ is the king of programming

[@maheshv18]

no, python is

[@zanies6288]

​@@maheshv18 python is not great when it comes to cp especially at that level

[@shiprasingh1647]

Remember my name

[@falcon8745]

How about Logo?

[@hggpi]

if the chinese man says C++ , it is C++.

[@pedrorossi2003]

I was born in the wrong decade

[@codingmaster008]

last guy is definitly elon musk brother🤣😅😂

[@PaidiGeetesh]

rust runtime supremacy

[@imadudin1522]

ada yg dari UI... mantap

[@pocketprime]

Yang mana bro ?

[@MrMangkokoo]

@@pocketprime yang mana anying

[@werren894]

yg pake kerudung

[@okkism_]

namanya siapa ya?

[@Miles-co5xm]

sea plus plus

[@AsifAli-qz9pb]

Obviously c++

[@subarnalamsal2303]

0:48 Elon Musk spotted

[@mahdifallahy8839]

Man how could you figure that out😂😂😂

[@subarnalamsal2303]

@@mahdifallahy8839 Doesn't he look like Elon?

[@KETANRAMTEKE]

Java

[@solenopsys-ru]

TypeScript + Zig

[@gladyouseen8160]

Why no python 😢😢😢

[@almuhimen8023]

I can feel your pain brother.

[@gladyouseen8160]

@@almuhimen8023 i came to notice that jit compiled frameworks seems to be efficient and beats c++. Then there will be trend for those too in future

[@magamindplanet8930]

because it's slow 😭

[@alihamja7592]

Python have recursion limited and also Doesn't have stl Library

[@crackersnucker]

Python is slow af

[@anarcho.pacifist]

Sidef, because we can.

[@shaidsk2578]

C++😍

[@mehmetedex]

my favorite lang is my mother tounge

[@woosukbyun2455]

C++!!

[@etchris]

last dude gave elon musk vibes

[@ritikashishodia675]

C++ oooo

[@thetruepicture1327]

Why not python?

[@zombiezoo1384]

Slow af in a competition where speed is one of the main factor

[@chris.w391]

javascript

[@sergioalegre5159]

Me who know's Python 👁 👄👁

[@pedrorossi2003]

NOSSA UM BRASILEIRO AQUI ASSIM NOSSO PAIS VAI PRA FRENTE

[@w47-p1e]

where is python?

[@user-dj9ul7vq5q]

Machine language

[@JoeElmasry.]

C++

[@vamsimanohar2542]

Me who learnt JAVA , Instead of c++

[@Nexus_array]

My favorite language is gw basic

[@igoremelianov5200]

rust!

[@coderodion]

Good luck then.

[@vanyam1]

SCRATCH

[@yunisbedelov]

C++👍

[@aayush5474]

I see plus plus

[@samislam2746]

TypeScript

[@Crygd-utre1]

why do their faces all look like they've been electrocuted?

[@irontree3842]

Because they all have been electrocuted, what a dumb question !

[@dudebros6122]

Scratch???????

[@nawaz_haider]

no JS? 🤣

[@sajeebsuniverse9421]

Rust 🗿

[@spuefire9862]

Rust????????

[@MediumIRL]

Last guy very based

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

Python will win one day.

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

Ted Breslow yes that's true but it will prevail against the C++ and Java programmers.

[@pchandu1995]

how? there is no way a interpreted language can be faster then a compiled language.

[@himujjalupadhyaya6157]

Rust will!

[@jackm2375]

not as long as TLE exists.

[@amogh708]

performance is the main issue you get all sorts of shortcuts but they make your code slow

[@sairevanth7126]

c++ rules!!!

[@jankrupinski1162]

No JavaScript? Really?

[@conradnal8934]

Hahahahahaha good one

[@anuragmishra2153]

ye rust wala hai kya featuring modi ji

[@RICO4REALL]

For me is CSS 🗿

[@Rick-k1r]

👀💀

[@vishalmishra1937]

reason for choosing c++?

[@c6h4c12takamasa]

vishal mishra c++ is very fast.

[@mycrushisachicken]

cpo aim Why not assembler then?

[@c6h4c12takamasa]

c++ have STL. competitive programer often use STL to accept as many ploblems as possible in the time limit.

[@mycrushisachicken]

@@sectranib1029 I hope you know I was still being ironic like i wrote on my previous comment

[@orgho2044]

css here

[@ICPCNews]

Lol

[@greatsaid5271]

no python, so wierd

[@drakker2116]

Lisp

[@hamdyabdelfattah2156]

java

[@archismansural5076]

PHP

[@arthurg5966]

Noobs I directly write Machine code

[@larry_berry]

Noob. I use punched cards.