What's the Hardest Answer in Wordle?

[@Pokecheeese]

So here's a little fun fact: The word that I claim is hardest in the vid (not naming it in the pinned comment to prevent spoilers) actually WAS a daily Wordle answer! It was Wordle 130 on October 27th. Thank you to NomiBoy for pointing that out to me. Unfortunately, Wordle only started getting mainstream attention around Wordle #200, so without the mass twitter posts there's not really any way of knowing how players did on that word. If you're someone who's been playing Wordle for that long and remember this puzzle, I'd love to know how you did on it!

[@BunkeredGaming]

I'm pretty sure that the code is 3Blue1Brown's original video had a bug in it, as he made a follow up video after. Not sure if the code he put in the description had the bug in it.

[@Pokecheeese]

@@BunkeredGaming It did have a bug, but that bug was unrelated to any of the functions I used it for in this video.

[@swordfishxd-]

@@Pokecheeese i havent played it but if i had played it with my current strategy it would look like this (G=Gray R=Green Y=Yellow): GGGGG (Flick) RRGGG (Bodes) GGGGR (Angry) GGGGG (Thump) RRRGR (Booby) RRRRR (Boozy) 6/6

[@thenamelessdragonfish]

I would have gotten that in 5.

[@claremcculloch1903]

I have a problem with the code: I am a dumb child, and what if I'm just being dumb and dont get it?

[@ichmagheringway89]

"We're imperfect creatures with imperfect knowledge about wordle" That quote along with the picture makes it sound like wordle has been around for 200 million years 😂

[@blazoraptor3392]

Sounds like something someone would say about chess lmao

[@ziwuri]

@@blazoraptor3392 Well, if we count chess engines, we have practically perfect knowledge about every possible chess position. (As in if we plug in any position, we will almost always know the definitive best moves for both sides.)

[@blazoraptor3392]

@@ziwuri yes, but we're not computers.

[@ryandcb]

a guess is a guess. You can't say it's only a half

[@baconlettucepotato69]

lmao

[@YuuuupThatsMe]

*it's not a mistake ✨IT’S A MASTERPEICE ✨* kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHqYYXyXmLpghKs

[@TrungNguyen-no9mx]

6:08

[@dumbidiot1119]

Tj “Henry” Yoshi

[@saengdaocarter8964]

Hahaha!

[@itmightbevid]

The puzzle at 2:18 was Event also 2 of my previous starting sets were listed at 12:43 (Rates Dinky Gumbo and Rales Found Pitch) so thanks for including those! Ok my newest starting set was also included as the last set in the list (Stare Plonk Fudgy Chimb at 13:06) so thanks for including that too! Loved the video, you went very in depth and I have no clue how you aren't more popular than 2 thousand subs, but that's the algorithm i guess.

[@flashystorm]

I wish you added an obscurity factor in the third metric. Just because there may be 4 answers left after a particular set doesn't mean all 4 words are equally likely to be guessed next.

[@ItsCocoTacos]

My favorite set is Great Slink Pouch, but I only use the set on stuff like dordles, quordles, and octordles, because I want to get the least guesses on the daily wordle.

[@SurrealBackrooms]

I made a python bot recently to come up with the hardest words (on the wordle list) and the top ones were Fuzzy, Glyph, and Jiffy. Edit: just looked at the video and fuzzy is up there too :)

[@Pokecheeese]

Ooh, I was wondering if anyone else had tried to answer this question. Obviously, depending on what your method is, you're going to get different results. On my final list, fuzzy was 244th, glyph was 224th, and jiffy was 12th!

[@NotNochos]

@@Pokecheeese Wallnut finds it interesting that two programs meant for the same thing can find totally different solutions.

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

I'll get glyph pretty easily

[@ethancheng6734]

a guess is a guess. You can’t say it’s only a half

[@asheep7797]

a half is a half. You can't say it's only a guess

[@SG2048-meta]

a half is a guess. You can’t say it’s only a half

[@NotFinnish]

a guess is a guess, you can’t say it’s a guess

[@SG2048-meta]

A is is an is. You can’t say it’s only an is.

[@ŷrlb]

watch it be grrrl or xylyl edit1: thanks for likes edit2:I know the difference between answers and guesses

[@baactiba3039]

They aren't solutions so no. Also if those could be it it could be many more obscure words like nduja or tyiyn

[@rajeshofficial1657]

@@baactiba3039 ydrad

[@crazyperson9996]

I originally thought pzazz or crwth

[@Djadou]

Or phpht

[@ŷrlb]

@@baactiba3039 ye true

[@abstein283]

I think the optimal play should be weighted lower than the other two scores, since it doesn’t come into play in a real wordle game. That would place Bezel in first I think

[@AnglosArentHuman]

I actually thought of crone almost immediately and didn't even realize prone was also possible until you mentioned it. Not sure if I should feel like a Gigachad or dumb for blanking out on basic vocabulary.

[@apnpawaw3448]

Always see you post your puzzles on the community tab but I havent acctually seen one of your videos lol. This was an awesome video, definitely gets a like from me!

[@huntzzio]

This is a really good video! I have been subscribed to you for a good long while, and have watched these videos get just more and more interesting with higher quality. One of my favorite channels by now! Super underrated!

[@jademonass2954]

somehow guessed crone on that "_rone"

[@gapple1733]

I always thought it would be 'Jazzy'

[@ezra7088]

I think cysts would be a very difficult word to guess, but I know it's not in the wordle data set

[@cadenhenderson4322]

17:54 JAZZY!! YEAAAAH! that’s my starter word!! i’m so proud to see it up there :D and great video! the presentation, math, and explanations are all really great. Also, i was playing when SWILL came and it was terrible. I didn’t fail but i got it in 5 or 6 if i recall correctly. i didn’t know of the word swill until i solved it, but i was at the point where i was pressing enter on just about anything that looked like a word.

[@sphericalcat1434]

Xylyl,Skill,Caulk: im the hardest *Boozy: NOPE*

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

I got lucky when the word was skill I got it in 2, my old starter word used to be skate

[@jasonmei3132]

"I'll get straight to the point" said the person with the 20 minute video.

[@lorenzobrunati8797]

It would be interesting to repeat this analysis only with the words that have come out so far in Wordle and see how different the results are from Twitter's

[@peterboylan8560]

6:13 Just wanted to say that was hilarious. Was not expecting SM64 when I clicked on this video

[@Danny15]

I failed getting "Boozy" yesterday which caused me to lose my streak of 50 on infinidle.

[@Robtie67]

Worth,saucy,being

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

W isn't great

[@TrungNguyen-no9mx]

2:38 The trick is to put “WAXER” in the fifth answer in order to guess correctly on the next guess. It has both a W and an X, it has an “ER” at the end, and if you get none of those, use “TERRA” to solve the puzzle.

[@thenamelessdragonfish]

Or just guess extra. Green a means terra, yellow e+yellow a means water, green e+yellow a is eater.

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@thenamelessdragonfish guessing eater also works

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Guessing water also works

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Terra is the only one that doesn't work, it has a 50/50 for eater and water

[@eaglehunter5210]

best opening obviously pzazz, fluffy, mummy, mommy, poppy or you can use steak, stake, state, stats, takes

[@Adyman182]

17:51 Man, the irony of me missing Alien in Wordle Archives, but getting Boozy (in five tries).

[@PowdergameFan18]

“A guess is a guess. You cant just say its a half”

[@harraz7632]

If scrabble dictionary joined wordle, PAEON, AULOI, AIOLI, OIDIA, AIDOI and many more vowel dumps

[@dadtoz]

'Anyways' makes my skin crawl.

[@Teddiursayoshi]

moderately tempted to use Ryan's pfp to write that comment =)

[@ryanokeefe5695]

Im such a child, i keep giggling whenever booby is mentioned. I JUST THINK SEABIRDS ARE FUNNY. Good video Mr. Cheese

[@ianmarks9527]

Bro I was doing Wordle unlimited and the word was polyp

[@leeachristie]

A half guess is when you keep holding down your ending word from yesterday's puzzle to the start of today's.

[@JoeBTD]

16:59 me thing that woozy is the hardest because why not. Turns out it is boozy. Just one letter off

[@NF_Supertrav]

The link to the full list doesn't work for me

[@Pokecheeese]

Looks like the old links expired. I've updated them to Google docs so hopefully that won't be an issue in the future.

[@NF_Supertrav]

Thank you :)

[@mtzvarich3234]

That is only one interesting and fun maths lesson

[@jorgesaxon3781]

6:14 nice reference

[@CandyCrushSaga1887]

Very similar to 3Blue1Brown and WordleBot

[@rolandsolomon7596]

17:05 queue might be even harder.

[@xander-shelton]

i use serai, godly, bumph and if i don’t get a lot from that i use track

[@NotNochos]

17:00 is the answer.

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

15:01 nymph appears in adieu stork nymph

[@claremcculloch1903]

I usually do either MAYBE TRICK SOUND or ALIEN SHORT DUCKY

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Alien storm duchy

[@maireadnicgiollaphadraig3651]

skill point swift savvy kazoo

[@bluerednotpurple]

Nice video! I enjoyed it a lot, and also was the thing at 11:52 from my screenshot in the wordle discord when I was still speedrunning faithful?

[@Pokecheeese]

It's not the exact screenshot but I recreated it from memory lol

[@bluerednotpurple]

@@Pokecheeese Now I can say that I have contributed to a Pokecheese video

[@discussions.]

I’m actually planning on making my own Wordle version. It’ll have a lot of features like having your own answer list and guess list, maybe even wordle unlimited. A timer? Auto-inputting your wordle strategy. That’s just off the top of my head.

[@antimatterg]

Please link when you're done!

[@discussions.]

@@antimatterg okay.

[@saturncool5140]

Lol I thought crone before prone at 2:04

[@Reerv]

6:53 I would've guessed leave

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Wow my strategy lyric hound steam appeared

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

12:58 has a Z (rarest letter) and a Q (2nd rarest letter) but no E (most common letter) Doesn't sound very good

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Actually Z is 4th and Q is 2nd but still rare

[@Xiphius]

I always thought the hardest was like jazzy or eerie or something like that

[@Jan-the-Man]

Yes

[@benjulesrun9057]

I don't comment so I'm not in your database. I use PRIME CHANT BLOWS FUDGY for quordle. I like it because I came up with it and I think it's funny

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

Did I miss the miss the hardest answer? Was it swill?

[@mathbuster0999]

This feels like a vsauce video

[@mrxylophonegaming4249]

My wordless strat is flame haunt gripy

[@JTGameZZ2]

Nymph is the hardest one I’ve done

[@iminediamonds]

i once got DIZZY on wordle unlimited. i gave up.

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

0:45 I know salts is a word but it's not in the list

[@Jaden_Iv3y]

Dang, he never found out the best starting set is: tares, cough, linky

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

It's not the best,it's good but it has some rare letters like the K

[@-JustAGuyOnYouTube-]

i got ethos on my first attempt

[@Levitationable]

cool and amazing

[@braydonslayz43]

18:04 heyyy #1 is the wordle today

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

That's cool

[@sigggo]

remember me when you get your playbutton

[@swordfishxd-]

make a pinned comment for wordle sets (so we can check if its in the video)

[@Pokecheeese]

This is a good idea, I added the list to the description!

[@swordfishxd-]

@@Pokecheeese nice (btw my starting set which is flick,bodes,angry,thump wasnt added to the list but thats okay)

[@valor9x7]

My starting words are always Story, Adieu

[@lukesteiner8934]

Try stern, audio, to get n instead of y

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@lukesteiner8934 or soare unlit to get L instead of D

[@lukesteiner8934]

@@locomotivetrainstation6053 I still think stern audio is better because doing stern first gives you enough information sometimes to guess it in 2

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@lukesteiner8934 soare is a better starting word than stern

[@claremcculloch1903]

HELLO? XYLY? CWTCH? GRRRL? QUEUE? HOW IS BOOZY THE RAREST?

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Xylyl and grrrl aren't in the list. Cwtch probably isn't either

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Queue is on the list but it's not the hardest

[@elijah21v28]

Pzzaz

[@phs125]

Plier is such a common word. It only seems uncommon to your stupid English ears because you say things like "scissors" "pants" etc while referring to single scissor, pant or a plier. I have a cutting plier and a nose plier. Together I would say, I have 2 pliers, but if I'm referring to only one of them, I wouldn't use plural...

[@ShTHfan1]

Except that's literally wrong. A scissor is a single blade. A pair of scissors (i.e. what you call a single scissor for some reason) has two. Plier and pant are the same. You ever notice how scissors and pliers have a bolt in the middle connecting the two halves together? Or how a pair of pants has a seam right down the middle between the legs? I think you just need to accept that there are words referring to singular objects as a pair because they are technically a pair. You don't put a glass on your face, you put glasses on your face. Saying otherwise is patently ridiculous.

[@phs125]

@@ShTHfan1 mone of those things can be used singularly (as you put it) so there's no point of thinking of it like a pair of things. Unlike shoes, you can use a singular shoe to hit someone, or use a proper pair of them for wearing. You can't cut anything with half a scissor. You can't wear half a pant. And about glasses, IRL, I've only heard people referring to them as "eyeglass" and "spectacles" only one of them is a plural. Again you can't just use half of an eyeglass. Then it would be a monocle. Not "a glass"

[@ShTHfan1]

@@phs125 "You can't cut anything with half a scissor." Did... Did you even think about that before posting it? Let's be generous and assume you're talking about a single scissor (half a pair of scissors) when you jokingly say "half a scissor", which honestly sounds like you broke the single part in half. You only have the one handle with a blade. How does that negate the thing's ability to cut something? You use it like any old knife. I have done this. Wearing half a pair of pants is less possible with how it's designed, but even if we take this into account, NONE of this makes any difference. A word is not defined by an object's use unless you're talking about a verb. (And even then, it's just describing an action) You may think you're being revolutionary here, but all I see is someone who's trying so hard to be a rebel, it's honestly hard to look at. Or maybe you're just from somewhere that doesn't speak English as a first language, which would make sense given you call people out for their "stupid English ears", in which case, do you honestly believe you have a better grasp of the language than the people who speak it natively? Grow up. Do some research. And learn how to type, I cannot understand that first sentence for the life of me. Mone? Is that supposed to be most or none? Also I have never heard anyone call them "an eyeglass" used anywhere. I've heard them called eyeglasses, but not an eyeglass. Are you sure you're not making that up? Because looking up what an eyeglass is, you'll never believe what I found. According to thesaurus.com, eyeglass has two possible sets of synonyms. One meaning a "magnifying glass" which- oh! That's a single lens! Fascinating how that works... And the other synonym is... monocle! You see how little effort it takes to just look this stuff up? Try it sometime.

[@guyman6202]

This man acting like he isn't a human himself

[@mr.beatfan8814]

I thought it would be XYLYL

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Xylyl isn't in the list

[@BoicuBuduAndrei]

I use RANCH TOKES BLIMP FUDGY

[@Renitky]

2:13 The puzzle you managed to sneak in is here and the answer should be EVENT. Also, this video was insanely well made. Props.

[@Rangsk]

Nice video! I like your methodology here. I think it would be nice to have a way to determine word frequency for words that aren't length 5, so that if someone wanted to make a non-length-5 Wordle clone there'd be a good way to create the answer vs accepted lists. Also, I do have my own solver that I've been tinkering with, and it makes the following word pair/triplet suggestions which I noticed weren't in your list of suggestions used. I've recently played the triplet on Wordle unlimited and it's actually quite impressive how nice it is for a human to follow-up from. Pair: carse doilt Triplet: table crimp synod There are only three words for that triplet which take my solver 6 guesses (and none more than 6). Those are: jolly, rover, and stave One final thing: Your "hardest word" has definitely come up in daily multi-wordles. If you can find a day that it happened, you could search twitter for those results.

[@Mmm---mmm]

Lol i found you

[@tengwhi]

Hi rangsk

[@Okaz_]

Lol I found you

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Pair: soare unity Triplet: slice party hound I think these are best

[@fusion67]

“a guess is a guess. you can’t say it’s only a half” great reference

[@eboone]

comedy

[@SJohann]

Now I wanna learn about parallel universes again.

[@adastra2228]

I specifically remember when the wordle was swill. I was on vacation in South Carolina and I attempted it that morning. I got it in 6 that morning and I had absolutely no clue what that word was. Later than night we went out to get pizza and for the first time ever, played wordle with my aunt and uncle and introduced it to my mom. So my mom’s first wordle was one of the hardest wordles ever

[@BunniBuu]

Three main points I'd like to make: 1) There are starting sets that are complete, meaning they will always find every word (not in the set) in exactly 6 tries! Doesn't really mean anything for this video, but it's an interesting fact! 2) A lot of (and I'd wager probably most) people play wordle on "hardmode", whether or not they activate the setting. This means if they reveal any tiles, they MUST use those tiles in their later guesses. This means words that are likely to be one letter off due to obscurity (hence, SWILL). Also double letters are inherently more difficult simply because you have to guess the same letter twice, and the only metric from your three which accounts for that is the third one. 3) Not a very important point, because there is so much opinion and bias in this answer, along with quite arbitrary weightings, but meh that's where the fun is :D thanks for the video it was entertaining

[@Pokecheeese]

On point 3: I completely agree! I don't think there's a way to answer this question without any of that short of pure experimentation, so I did my best to work with that I had. I will say that at no point did I go back and tinker/modify anything to change the results, I just defined my method and accepted whatever words showed up at the end. Honestly I'm still pretty happy with my top word because it has those typical difficulty traits like a double letter and an uncommon letter. I think a player playing in hard mode/pseudo hard mode would still struggle with it.

[@Imnotnotjarrett]

You should create playlists of speedruns, and videos like this for people who only care for one type

[@mrmosaic7996]

Actually, in case of swill spill still shill skill, the optimal strategy after seeing s_ill might be using a guess to eliminate several letters at once. For example, PHoTo

[@mx_ae]

Hard mode

[@jellomochas]

WHiPT

[@mrmosaic7996]

@@jellomochas Great! This word would allow to find the correct answer exactly in two guesses.

[@Cloiss_]

a majority of people who play Wordle won't bother to do this, and even those who do might still (heh) struggle to think of the word SWILL - I didn't even know the word existed!

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

Also we had the word "skill" before

[@shadowyzephyr]

12:45 interesting, my starter for squabble is "turns gaped filch womby" for regular wordle, "slate" followed by "rhino" or "curio"

[@handupandu6000]

i use slate too, but i alternate between chino and rhino

[@Redddragon]

brawn cloth feuds gimpy was what i found for the 20 most common letters

[@novacentorium4943]

@@Redddragon yo

[@Cowmunist]

I use "slate" and then "irony"

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@Redddragon i think K is better than W

[@william_shakespeare]

Top notch quality, editing and script. You'll get big on KZbin

[@ETHowie1]

Love the video! However the majority of players do not use more than 1 or 2 starting words so the 3rd metric isn’t great

[@greenchess1832]

Nice! My guess for hardest word was jazzy, since I think an AI found that jazz is the hardest hangman word. Cool to see it ranked 10th!

[@Burnt99]

Nice job for this effort! No wonder it took you a while to put another video out!

[@amesstarline5482]

I remember my first Wordle game- it was actually the Swill one, so I learned a new word that day.

[@DizzyRL]

1:35 I really went “crone? But I don’t think that’s a word” 💀

[@twixerclawford]

I appreciate the 0.5 A presses reference very much. Thank you for being a nerd

[@TraumaTazed]

13:26 or you could just guess waxen. W and x are included. And the E for eater would he green if it was eater. If none help. It's Terra

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

You could also just guess "eater"

[@owenaspinall2046]

Or water or extra. Only terra still has 50/50 eater/water.

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@owenaspinall2046 yeah so optimally, you should never guess terra in that situation

[@vybz987]

The hardest for me was epoxy. Only time ive ever lost

[@FightingForceSoulless]

I'd say it's FLUFF. You'll get the LU, you might end up guessing something like BLUFF on your last answer, only to realize you've been bamboozled. In general, three of the same letter, like NANNY, these are the worst.

[@oshirokita]

My current very successful starting set is SUITE & HOARY. If the first word confirms an E in final spot, then my second word is HOARD. I can solve in 3 guesses about half the time. My previous not as good starting set was SEPIA & COURT.

[@arya6085]

haven't finished watching yet but my go to would be MELEE

[@dudley1]

What are the chances the unofficial Rubik's Cube world record is 2.68 seconds and the word Boozy scores that number.

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

Has it really not been beaten yet? Hasn't that been standing for months?

[@dudley1]

@@wildrubikslegokids1242 As far as I know it has not been beaten.

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

@@dudley1 Wer're literally talking about cubing right now. lol

[@dudley1]

@@wildrubikslegokids1242 Yes I know lol

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

And a lot of speedrunners for wordle also do cubing

[@whatd0605]

1:04 You would also want to account for the fact that the players may develop their own strategies and get closer to optimal plays as they get closer to completing all 2315 games

[@jsdp]

Amazing quality video and I cannot wait until your subscriber count shoots up. Been following you for what must be a couple months now and have loved all the content you've been producing! Cheers mate, keep it up:)

[@jellomochas]

My starting set is BEACH FUDGY KILNS TROMP

[@phs125]

14:50 I thought he said booby is a c-word and ONLY a C-word, while showing a picture of a bird. Then I realised he said sea bird, not Curse word...

[@samuelmitschele-dauenhauer2984]

Is it a bad sign I actually thought "crone" first?

[@Anda58_]

But before we solve wordle, we need to talk about parallel universes

[@isaacbird2317]

my favorite starter words are Nomad, Strip, then Fleck