What’s the Point of Pointing in Japan, Anyway? | Atlas Obscura

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4 жыл бұрын

On every platform and every train in Tokyo, employees are always pointing at things. These ritualistic gestures-known as shisa kanko, or “pointing and calling”-are crucial to keeping Japan’s train system running smoothly, and they might even save lives. But how does it actually work?
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@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
Laugh if you want, but their transport is among the best in the world.
@strumptavianroboclick5596
@strumptavianroboclick5596 3 жыл бұрын
Ya and nobody owns a car.. its a result of size.. the population density demands a top notch system.. I point and call all day, my kids just ignore it.. and my parental system is amongst the best
@jun_suzuki42
@jun_suzuki42 3 жыл бұрын
As a passenger I trust my lives on them.
@rohittkrr
@rohittkrr 3 жыл бұрын
No one is laughing
@JerryChanD
@JerryChanD 2 жыл бұрын
@@jun_suzuki42 As a foreign traveller, I trust your public transport :)
@Tokax
@Tokax 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the pointing was really cool since a kid
@AnnKilzer
@AnnKilzer 4 жыл бұрын
As a Tokyo resident, it brightens my day to watch the conductors and platform attendants diligently point and check things. Thanks for making this awesome video.
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Ann!
@enigmadrath1780
@enigmadrath1780 Жыл бұрын
0:10 "It might look a bit silly" I actually thought it looked pretty sick. Very professional and smooth. I'm just a sucker for flawless gesturing
@luismvilla1
@luismvilla1 2 жыл бұрын
I work for the railroad I'm the states, I started doing this before departure and it has helped drastically to get details. I've become more punctual with my departure times, passengers have also taken notice when I do this
@kornkernel2232
@kornkernel2232 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to know that it really does works! Maybe give a shot to the management to give a shot if that can be implemented to the system as a whole. They should at least appreciate your idea.
@GoldKeralis
@GoldKeralis 2 жыл бұрын
@@kornkernel2232 agreed, I feel like it should be a thing the whole world should be doing as it seems to make things like transport a lot safer and efficient
@flashflair
@flashflair 2 жыл бұрын
I was really struggling mentally to remember if I locked the house door seconds after locking it. It was a panic inducing process that would make me stop my car and get out and walk back to the house to check again. With the pandemic isolation side effects my brain kept jumping around so much that I couldn't focus on the simple trivial task of remembering the action of locking the door seconds after locking it. Until I remembered my visit to Japan and how they were pointing on the train platforms. I decided to give it a try. It was like sunshine coming out through the clouds. I could peacefully go to my car and actually remember the action of pointing to the door and saying "locked". It's honestly a mental saving process. I love it.
@mudso
@mudso Жыл бұрын
Have you consider recording the action while you are locking your door, also mentioning the date and time? That way you can really assure that in your mind, WITH an actual video reference in your phone, too.
@mercadocatherine_stem9a919
@mercadocatherine_stem9a919 9 ай бұрын
​@@mudsothat's a lot of work
@SLCtica
@SLCtica 4 жыл бұрын
I swear the Japanese are at least 20 years ahead of everyone in so many different areas. We should stop being so proud and learn from the good things other countries like Japan do. But I’m biased because I Love Japan ❤️
@whatsitsgalore
@whatsitsgalore 4 жыл бұрын
I am totally going to try that to help me remember stuff. But I'm going to use the Japanese name Shisa Kanko, because it's cool.
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
Strong +1 to this idea.
@treelover4978
@treelover4978 2 жыл бұрын
I just read the book atomic habit. This Pointing-and-Calling mentions in this book and i know about its now such a great 👍
@GavinVeasey
@GavinVeasey 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a rural mail carrier and I’ve started doing this at all my boxes and stops. It really helps me ensure I didn’t miss anything before I depart to the next box.
@myhumbleperspective8345
@myhumbleperspective8345 2 жыл бұрын
I am here because I read it from the Book, "Atomic Habits". The author was James Clear.☺️
@Chew1964
@Chew1964 4 жыл бұрын
The US submarine service uses it. We call it “point, read, operate”.
@AveryMilieu
@AveryMilieu 4 жыл бұрын
Been doing that for years to maintain focus. I am easily distracted, chronic short term memory issues, and when I'm looking for something I put down or running through a daily routine, I tend to point at the thing I need to be focused on (my phone on the counter, locking the door, adding detergent to the laundry...) and say what it is I intend to do. There are So Many distractions that this really does help beat the "oh Look! A squirrel!" tendency I've had most of my life. I am reassured that this in not some personal quirk on the road to senility.
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a bad quirk! It is extremely helpful to ground yourself in something with as simple a gesture as pointing. :)
@AveryMilieu
@AveryMilieu 4 жыл бұрын
@@atlasobscura I point at the door I intend to use when I am leaving. I point at my shoes before I put them on, point at my purse to remember to take it. Some folks have a better time learning and remembering when it is associated with a physical thing.
@Mentocthemindtaker
@Mentocthemindtaker 4 жыл бұрын
Should be part of standard teaching practice for children with ADHD to learn.
@valdasguzys8727
@valdasguzys8727 2 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one. For many years been touching my pockets before leaving the house and talking to myself: "Keys", "Phone", "Wallet". Before locking the car or the locking house door. Turning of the stove or oven.
@ajmalrasak4641
@ajmalrasak4641 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Atomic Habits.
@testtestmann3155
@testtestmann3155 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask you what it is?
@madhu_bhisetti
@madhu_bhisetti 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hey am also here after atomic habits
@madhu_bhisetti
@madhu_bhisetti 3 жыл бұрын
@@testtestmann3155 actually its a book
@testtestmann3155
@testtestmann3155 3 жыл бұрын
@@madhu_bhisetti , thank you. I've got it.
@peasantfaye5403
@peasantfaye5403 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@thowell3031
@thowell3031 4 жыл бұрын
I actually do this every time I hitch up my travel trailer. I check each connection point (hitch, pins, chains) and I think it helps.
@Mentocthemindtaker
@Mentocthemindtaker 4 жыл бұрын
Studies show it reduces errors by up to 85%!
@busara221
@busara221 2 жыл бұрын
Atomic habits brought me here x)
@rixxroxxk1620
@rixxroxxk1620 Жыл бұрын
Along with a safety first attitude, I feel it shows a level of professionalism and pride in their job. The Japanese seem to have mastered this attitude that other countries should take notice of. Well done video!
@lastmilejapan5463
@lastmilejapan5463 3 ай бұрын
This practice has been widely adopted by the transportation industry in Japan. If you're in Japan, take a close look at truck or taxi drivers right as they make their turns or back up. It's to ensure that pedestrians or objects are not in the way. That split-second check really helps prevent accidents. It also helps others confirm that they are actually adhering to safety procedures. In case of an accident, the driver recorder will clearly show that an effort was made for safety purposes. Even within the warehouse, floor staff members point as they work to ensure that all the boxes within their mental checklist is checked off.
@Tokax
@Tokax 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Japanese trains since a kid it would be a dream to drive one especially a N700S!
@teslafreak
@teslafreak 4 жыл бұрын
It seems so simple, but is really quite brilliant when you think about it.
@AmanGaming521
@AmanGaming521 11 ай бұрын
The fact that this system reduced errors up to 85 percent and cutted the accidents by 30 percent is insane
@IamWhoIam2023
@IamWhoIam2023 4 жыл бұрын
You should visit the US to see the rats in train stations practicing pointing and calling
@SnownelVEVO
@SnownelVEVO 3 жыл бұрын
Rats don't take the trains anymore here, it's faster to just walk.
@lyucky1
@lyucky1 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this was a "real thing"! I do this before I leave the house for a night out. I point at the outlet where my curling iron or straightener was plugged in and SAY "unplugged" - prevents that "oh shit" moment later in the night when you're wondering... "did I?"...
@garimasharma7471
@garimasharma7471 Ай бұрын
Came to know about this from Atomic Habits.This method is great👍
@youcanpunchmeintheface
@youcanpunchmeintheface 3 жыл бұрын
Been doing this in daily life and I assure you it's really helpful for not forgetting things easily
@bembs0256
@bembs0256 2 күн бұрын
Indonesian Railways (KAI) has adopted pointing-and-calling since 2015 during the railway reform, and the results are incredible. Trains have become more punctual than before, work safety improved, and the number of incidents has decreased sharply. I’ve personally started to implement this technique in my daily life. For example, when I’m about to leave my house, I will call “Lamps off OK, stove off OK, doors locked OK,” etc.
@Bothomas-vm5hz
@Bothomas-vm5hz Жыл бұрын
I saw one conductor doing this on the mta nycta in brooklyn once years back while opening and closing the doors I taught it was very unique and others looked on with a strange face
@jespinosa176
@jespinosa176 3 ай бұрын
James Clear "Atomic Habits" told me so. This is a nice strategy :)
@TheHeavyshadow
@TheHeavyshadow Жыл бұрын
0:10 I'm a huge fan of the adage "If it looks silly, but works, it isn't silly."
@RFD7BL
@RFD7BL 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact : Indonesia also adopted the pointing and calling, they call it "tunjuk sebut" in Indonesia.and the ones who mostly use this are the train conducter, PPKA (railroad attendant), and the train driver. Sorry for my semi bad english
@petermobius
@petermobius 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@modtomodern
@modtomodern 4 жыл бұрын
I also lived in Japan and always watched the workers do this. The Japanese have fascinating hands, most very elegant, as best observed when they dance at O-Bon and at festivals or make your sushi. So watching them at work just filled me with wonder. I had fallen in love with Japanese boyfriend's because of their hands. I have fat farmers hands with stubby fingers and was always jealous of the thin fine fingers of my Japanese friends. Thanks for posting.
@SocialistDistancing
@SocialistDistancing Жыл бұрын
I've adopted pointing and calling after a first saw it in a documentary about trains. It works, and I've been educating others about it.
@NE-cf5tf
@NE-cf5tf Жыл бұрын
Hi, could I use this video for staff training courses? Do I need permission?
@TuNguyen-my2xd
@TuNguyen-my2xd 3 жыл бұрын
This method is very much useful.
@BelloBudo007
@BelloBudo007 4 ай бұрын
When I first visited Japan and saw the 'white gloves and pointing' thing, I did wonder what they were doing. I suspected it had something to do with Safety and Thoroughness, but was only guessing. This video made it very clear. And Yes I'm pointing at you Japan. 😊👈
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 4 жыл бұрын
I use it when playing board games or magic the gathering. It's great for me and for my game partners to keep track whose turn it is, what's happening, what actions are triggered
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
Oh! That's a great tip!!
@Storytimewithgitte
@Storytimewithgitte Жыл бұрын
no wonder they're the best. They are so organised! 🚂🤚🏼👆🏼👏🏼
@nmplab
@nmplab 3 жыл бұрын
After forgetting to lock my cabinet once on break at the dorm, I started to do this every time I go home from college for break haha. (no, nothing was stolen or touched, thankfully)
@ryan124007
@ryan124007 2 жыл бұрын
I've also been doing it to check things before I leave somewhere.
@rajatmarwaha
@rajatmarwaha 5 ай бұрын
Hi This video is really amazing. Would like to seek your permission to share this with my colleagues for training purpose only.
@RealNameNeverUsed
@RealNameNeverUsed Жыл бұрын
2:48 my noob ass will point at the traffic and yell “Clear!” even when it’s not.😂
@devonhughes3805
@devonhughes3805 8 ай бұрын
Being prideful and diligent in whatever YOU do contributes to others doing the same. Members of Japanese society all keep eachother on-point and on-task and it makes life so much more orderly, clean, and dependable over there. I miss the 4 years I spent.
@Sidewinder627
@Sidewinder627 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE IT
@vanaals
@vanaals 4 жыл бұрын
It's how I remember learning to read. When my parents would read to me, they would point at the words they were saying.
@ablresearchThailand
@ablresearchThailand 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Shisha ganko in Japan Airport, On the bus from arrived plane to terminal building. If you sit near a bus driver, you might see it. So cool.
@Kodasodanoda
@Kodasodanoda 8 ай бұрын
Very random but watching this reminded me of some of my favorite characters ever Emmet and Ingo who are conductors at s subway in Pokémon Black and white and they're art work always depicts them pointing and being loud
@nihnewsinfo8755
@nihnewsinfo8755 5 ай бұрын
This represents dicipline and concentration during work
@tuminol7426
@tuminol7426 4 ай бұрын
Quiet interesting 😮
@bridgetdavis9752
@bridgetdavis9752 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating; I have never heard of this before!
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there's your TIL for today! :)
@Jakal1391
@Jakal1391 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been to Japan, but I've noticed this technique is used by referees in Asian regional Mixed Martial Arts! If a fighter is hurt or a specific rule needs to be enforced, the referee will point and make a call.
@astha5229
@astha5229 Жыл бұрын
I came here to watch this after reading about it in James Clear's book, Atomic Habits.
@pattylasko7567
@pattylasko7567 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Mr. Radio's life-sized horse with all its parts!
@arthurcab
@arthurcab 3 жыл бұрын
Subway operators in NYC also do this.
@lemon2524
@lemon2524 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 2 жыл бұрын
The only time you don't want to do this is putting your PIN into the ATM.
@tomasbeltran04050
@tomasbeltran04050 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@fleischzerfetzer676
@fleischzerfetzer676 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me a little bit on hand signals at aircraft carrier's. 😅
@VulcanOnWheels
@VulcanOnWheels 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is true for other countries, but in The Netherlands, (house) doors automatically lock when they're closed.
@GabbiBelleS
@GabbiBelleS 2 жыл бұрын
Catch me out here pointing & calling out things while driving. I keep going into autopilot when I drive and I make mistakes when I do that. So I think this method will help me remain focused when driving
@familyTV334
@familyTV334 5 ай бұрын
Atomic Habits by James Clear brought me here
@RahnyT
@RahnyT 5 ай бұрын
Same here lmao
@RahnyT
@RahnyT 5 ай бұрын
Amazing book so far
@sheenapelle
@sheenapelle 2 жыл бұрын
Came here bc of Atomic Habits!
@Negentropy.
@Negentropy. 4 жыл бұрын
The Cincinnati Street Car needs some Shisa Kanko
@DannyoRaiden
@DannyoRaiden 2 жыл бұрын
Best country once again✌️💚😊
@Andiakhyar95
@Andiakhyar95 8 ай бұрын
In indonesia, machinist using point and calling system, small thing but make good system
@vishalrajmehta4911
@vishalrajmehta4911 2 жыл бұрын
Important train patri sefty ❤️☀️👍
@roypabling2781
@roypabling2781 Жыл бұрын
atomic habits brought me here
@tempma1658
@tempma1658 3 жыл бұрын
🧠 > 👀 > 👉‍‍ > 🗣️ > 🆗 > 👂‍‍ > 👌‍‍, 👍‍‍ > ✅
@mylifeisJDM
@mylifeisJDM 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100 percent how it works but I do enjoy pointing and scanning before crossing roads. Makes me feel like a crossing guard.
@rubenfdez.-ramos550
@rubenfdez.-ramos550 Жыл бұрын
It seems a good technique to prevent errors but I believe that is difficult to implement in others cultures like Spanish. On the other hand, I think "Pointing and Calling" could be a possible solution to reduce the effects of automation in train drivers who use a driving mode GoA2 or superior.
@mgancarzjr
@mgancarzjr 8 ай бұрын
Pilots do it during their checks. It crosses all language and cultural borders.
@YoFreshWiggy
@YoFreshWiggy 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought more people should learn ASL (American Sing Language). If you can’t hear someone from noise, you can at least see what they’re saying. We could communicate better in traffic, help keep tempers down. Or military use; still want to communicate during radio silence, all you need is line of sight.
@Mentocthemindtaker
@Mentocthemindtaker 4 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with this! But for me, being Australian, it would be AUSLAN. I honestly believe it should be compulsory for all teachers to learn and an abbreviated version (key word sign) should be a normal part of instructional technique in classrooms, paired with verbal instructions.
@YoFreshWiggy
@YoFreshWiggy 4 жыл бұрын
Australia has it’s own sing language?!? How is it different from ASL? I’m assuming that we use ASL here in Canada, no need to make it more difficult to understand Americans.
@Mentocthemindtaker
@Mentocthemindtaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@YoFreshWiggy AUSLAN is _completely_ different from ASL - it's literally a different language. AUSLAN is closer to British Sign Language (BSL) than ASL. But all of these - ASL, BSL and AUSLAN have regional dialects and some signs change depending on which part of the country you're in.
@YoFreshWiggy
@YoFreshWiggy 4 жыл бұрын
Mentocthemindtaker Wow! I’m learning lots today! Thank you! Are the different sing languages relatively understandable to each other or is the syntax completely different? Would someone speaking in AUSLAN understand someone speaking in BSL?
@Mentocthemindtaker
@Mentocthemindtaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@YoFreshWiggy Good question, and I honestly don't know. There are similarities in many of the signs, but other than that I'm not sure, sorry!
@fault3k
@fault3k 6 ай бұрын
love japanese people
@malazforever8222
@malazforever8222 2 жыл бұрын
Who's reading Atomic Habit?🌚
@fadelhutama8330
@fadelhutama8330 9 ай бұрын
Is Kiken Yochi the same thing?
@bl00dhoney
@bl00dhoney 4 жыл бұрын
Daito is a cutie 😍
@bl00dhoney
@bl00dhoney 4 жыл бұрын
☝️Daito is a cutie 😍 (I forgot to point)
@sharescene-stories9332
@sharescene-stories9332 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah agree.. (pointed "yosh!")​ㅋㅋㅋ
@obkb1150
@obkb1150 Ай бұрын
Meitetsu operates in the Nagoya area, not Tokyo, but otherwise a good video.
@tango22ah
@tango22ah 9 ай бұрын
As you begin to get older this is a great practice to adopt in your life e.g I have turned off the cooker! I have locked the front door and most importantly I have flushed the toilet
@snooopert1048
@snooopert1048 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great mindfulness activity
@rudehr
@rudehr 11 ай бұрын
Did it last night under the duvet - my girl was not amused😮
@graceforlily272
@graceforlily272 3 жыл бұрын
Atomic Habits brought me here
@MrBogardus
@MrBogardus 6 ай бұрын
I'll do this at my job looks like I'm talking to myself... which I am
@cherriemay528
@cherriemay528 9 ай бұрын
I've seen it not just at the train station even the airport staff and drivers and construction sites do it when i first came to Japan ahahaha japan is definitely interesting😅
@ImSamudrzLikesFutbolFootball
@ImSamudrzLikesFutbolFootball 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesia train drivers/members does point too if they have permission to go
@arif.setia_ch
@arif.setia_ch 3 жыл бұрын
Same as Indonesian railway
@bogsmyt
@bogsmyt 6 ай бұрын
Who is here because of the book titled Atomic habit? 😂
@ddobry21
@ddobry21 4 жыл бұрын
So, let me get this straight, they point to.....make a point?
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@triis8643
@triis8643 3 жыл бұрын
yes, that's the point
@ddobry21
@ddobry21 3 жыл бұрын
@@triis8643 Ok you guys seem to be on point about this. Point taken.
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to do pointing and calling if you go on a date with a japanese woman? Also if you get lucky?
@Vv-gk4cu
@Vv-gk4cu Жыл бұрын
Remember to inhale. Remember to exhale.
@AlphaGeekgirl
@AlphaGeekgirl 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting… But I still didn’t understand what it’s about.
@petermobius
@petermobius 4 жыл бұрын
mental and physical reinforcement and feedback loops.
@user-oq5yr1kp1d
@user-oq5yr1kp1d 4 жыл бұрын
Debi Taylor I’m Japanese and I think this video should translate the exact words there saying and what are they pointing at . For example: the train driver They are doing things like this (Departure ) Point @ the time table paper and read and call: 1)”Train no123 departures b-station @ 12:30” 2)point the clock on the train and Read and call. “12:30 correct! “ 3)point the signal ahead check the light “Green , checked” 4) point the warning lamp on the panel about a doors shut “ no warning , all doors are shut 5)point the rail check no person or cars crossing “ no objects in front checked” 6) here we go. ! Accelerate You train this over and over until You can do it without thinking. If something wrong it’ll be like “ door warning lamp is.......wtf ..on? He’ll grab the phone and talk to the co-driver at the rear end. “ hey some doors might be open, Could you get off the train and check With your eyes?” “ the door in the middle had stacked someone’s bag. I removed it problem solved “ “ roger that.” Back to 1) and start all over again lol
@wigwagstudios2474
@wigwagstudios2474 2 жыл бұрын
Eh's Hands
@stickynote2603
@stickynote2603 4 жыл бұрын
Bring here because of atomic habits
@stevenvictoria9568
@stevenvictoria9568 3 жыл бұрын
My finger points
@raedsmile
@raedsmile Ай бұрын
Who’s here from Atomic Habit?
@AsheOdinson
@AsheOdinson 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but this didn't feel like the thoughtful, wonder provoking style we've come to love about Atlas Obscura. This just felt like a very short educational video. Where are the videos like Giant Rock, or the megaphones in the forest, or the abandoned bunker, or the would be submarine? So much awe, wonder, and reverence in those ones.
@atlasobscura
@atlasobscura 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point, Ashe, and we're glad that you enjoyed those videos so much! (How cool were the megaphones, right?) We believe that wonder can be found in a myriad of things. We obviously believe that there are great unknown places, like the hidden megaphones, or the abandoned Coney Island Creek submarine, but wonder can also be equally found in sometimes the smallest of things-like pointing! Curiosity will lead us everywhere, and we're always eager to see what else we dig up in the course of us asking questions. :)
@AsheOdinson
@AsheOdinson 4 жыл бұрын
@@atlasobscura My intent was to point out the style, not the subject matter. This felt dry and analytical, with a faster pace in speech than the examples I gave, all combined to rob it of the sense of wonder in the narration. The idea of pointing and explaining making such a statistically proven difference is fascinating and says a lot about human psychology. It could open doors to more effective teaching in virtually any field. As much as technology is racing forward, this method could help us better keep pace in how we learn to use those technologies. It's the presentation that felt out of place, but that could very well be my opinion alone and it's nowhere near enough to cause me to ever disable instant alerts for your videos. 😊
@devonhughes3805
@devonhughes3805 8 ай бұрын
Now if only they can point and call to a higher birthrate before the whole thing collapses 😢
@maryriley6163
@maryriley6163 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good practice. When Trump lies there should be someone to point at him and say "LIAR!" If he was reminded every time then maybe he would eventually stop lying. Or is this just wishful thinking on my part?
@verycursedplane6557
@verycursedplane6557 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly Not most advanced network. Very primitive. Manual train operation for most lines. Platform screen doors recently only installed and needing conductors on trains. Needing to point at dangers? Still dangers on a platform? An advanced train network like Singapore has one person sitting in even the oldest generation trains and is there for redundancy. Singapore has fully automatic trains and only staff on platform during peak hours. Very little manual input. Japan certainly has primitive rail networks not advanced. Even New York subways are upgrading to CBTC. I’m not saying Japan has no automatic trains but the fact that they are switching to it in the 20th century? When automation was present in the 1960s. Some may say it’s hard retro fitting trains. New York and Londan have older train systems and run automatic with a driver present
@verycursedplane6557
@verycursedplane6557 2 жыл бұрын
@@C20F that’s literally upgrading a network to modern needs
@verycursedplane6557
@verycursedplane6557 2 жыл бұрын
@@C20F having such a manual system wastes man power and train operating frequency cannot go higher
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