What's up with COP28

Special guest Julie Johnston joins Dr. Peter Carter, Paul Beckwith and Regina Valdez to discuss the upcoming Conference Of the Parties, COP28 to be held in Dubai, UAE beginning on November 30th.
This video was recorded on November 14th, 2023, and published on November 19th, 2023, and represents the opinions of the discussion participants.
The importance of hosting the COPs in different regions to facilitate a broader attendance was mentioned along with the significance of including the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region due to predictions of extreme climate changes rendering parts of it uninhabitable. The forum touched upon the history of COPs, highlighting the first conference in Berlin in 1995 and the Kyoto Protocol established in the third COP in Kyoto.
Julie Johnston shared a heartfelt message urging women attending COP to represent mothers, grandmothers, and all of humanity in climate discussions. She added a perspective on ecological responsibility, calling for compassion and courageous advocacy at COP28.
The subsequent discussion involved participants expressing their views on COP negotiations, highlighting the deceptive nature of some agreements, the urgent need to address fossil fuel subsidies, and the potential consequences of climate change on future generations.
The forum participants also discussed the disconnect between government negotiators and the broader public and the critical role of activists in holding leaders to account. The discussion underscored the urgency of addressing climate change and the importance of COP28 in shaping global climate policies.
Links:
- Climate Impacts: Mediterranean and North Africa (CEF Video)
• Climate Impacts: Medit...
- Kyoto Protocol
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_P...
- An underwhelming G20 skates over the big issues of poverty, inequality and climate'
www.oxfam.org/en/press-releas...
- What is the UAE Cop28 plan of climate action?
www.theguardian.com/environme...
- What is COP28 and why is it important?
www.chathamhouse.org/2023/09/...
- Nationally Determined Contributions Under the Paris Agreement: Synthesis report by the secretariat
reliefweb.int/report/world/na...
- Global Warming in the Pipeline (CEF Video)
• Global Warming in the ...
- International Maritime Organization
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...
- Does rising methane signal a ‘great transition’ in climate? by Euan Nisbet
earthsky.org/earth/rising-met...
- Pakistan's Pluvial Plight (CEF Video)
• Pakistan's Pluvial Plight
- Eco Grief (CEF Video)
• Eco Grief
- CEF to attend COP28 (CEF News)
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Special Guest:
Julie Johnston
- Sustainability Education Coach & Consultant with GreenHeart Education; Climate Reality Leader
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Regular Panelists:
Dr. Peter Carter - MD, Expert IPCC Reviewer and the director of the Climate Emergency Institute
Paul Beckwith - Climate Systems Scientist. Professor at the University of Ottawa in the Paleoclimatology Laboratory as well as at Carleton University
Regina Valdez - Program Director, Climate Reality Project, NYC. GreenFaith Fellow and LEED Green Associate
Video Production:
Charles Gregoire - Electrical Engineer, Webmaster and IT prime for FacingFuture.Earth & the Climate Emergency Forum; Climate Reality Leader
Heidi Brault - Video production and website assistant, Organizer and convener, Metadata technician, COP28 team lead for the Climate Emergency Forum and COP Team organizer for FacingFuture.Earth; BA (Psychology); Climate Reality Leader
Our Website:
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Attributions:
Background Music:
- Title: Through the City II
- Author: Crowander
- Source: Free Music Archive
- License: CC BY-NC 4.0
Image and Video: climateemergencyforum.org/ass...
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[@drakewauters2109]

COP is now OPEC.

[@robertlussier2944]

50-70,000 attendees to the next COP, most will travel by jet, to see a collection of "tedious" displays (Paul's words) when they could easily set up power point displays online, and attend from home. This could make the conference available to the public, and further disseminate this vital information. By the way, Dubai is getting flooded TODAY.🤔 An unusual occurrence?

[@literalghost929]

It's good for the economy.

[@carolynbrzezinski5779]

@@literalghost929So….the economy’s the most important thing, eh? 😖

[@chesterfinecat7588]

Rich people are different - their jet fuel emissions become angel farts. Plus they drive Teslas so there's an offset.

[@literalghost929]

@@carolynbrzezinski5779 The economy is what keeps us going. Without infinite economic growth, at one point as we grow older nobody will be there to take care of us, which is why immigration is absolutely crucial, as decrease of population would be like the most horrible thing imaginable.

[@ihateexcessivelylongandpoi4490]

Should be called COCD: Conference of Cognitive Dissonance.

[@charlessoukup1111]

This is SO SO SO IMPORTANT to our Earth today. How can it NOT be an Immediate priority??

[@nsbd90now]

The international corporate oligarchs who rule things are sociopaths?

[@WoodstockG54]

Didn’t Dubai just get hammered by freak weather recently? Of all things , they had a flood.

[@gweflj]

Yes, increased Co2 is greening the deserts. Rejoice my friend.

[@lionscircle4700]

On Friday a fan at a Taylor Swift concert in Rio de Janeiro collasped and died. Looking deeper into the matter, the perceived temperature(including humidity) was 138 degree Fahrenheit during the morning concert. New record for the city.

[@nsbd90now]

Also... no water in the venue and what was available is reported as $10 a serving. Late-stage Capitalism indeed.

[@Budguy68]

Perceived temperature? Whats the actual temperature? How many ppl are drying from the climate emergency per year?

[@Budguy68]

​@@nsbd90now Capitalism would involve free market Capitalism. What we have today is government regulated corporatism. Its a public private partnership ran by the globalist. They will control everything and you will own nothing.

[@ceeemm1901]

Taylor who? Apparently Peter Allen doesn't go there anymore....

[@wadeinn463]

28 years and what has been accomplished? All talk.

[@TheDoomWizard]

👍

[@lionscircle4700]

Completely agree. Isn't the head of COP an Oil company executive?

[@Deebz270]

Sweet Fanny Adams.

[@earthsystem]

The entity called "the economy" is more powerful than the entity called "humanity"

[@ceeemm1901]

...and caviar canapés....

[@brucebernard4383]

I think you should arrange to have. The air conditioning turned off for one whole day at the Main days activities so the delegates get a real sense of what 2 degrees feels like.

[@em945]

I think that is a genuinely good idea. Could be applied in many situations.

[@coweatsman]

Julie says "we can't eat oil". Yes but we sort of do in an indirect way. The whole green revolution of agriculture from the mid 20th century on depends on fossil fuel inputs in the form of fertiliser, pesticides, machinery and transport. Modern agriculture is the use of land to turn petrochemical products into food. Our population has increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 8 billion today, 3 doublings in 200 years, and largely on a once only available endowment of fossil fuels. We need to downsize because we are in overshoot.

[@robertfontaine3650]

The year when the voices switch from "We must do something" to "It's too late"

[@3g0st]

Thank you all for doing the emotional labor of helping set our expectations & ground us with well-organized info and trustworthy names

[@lionscircle4700]

(Look who is driving the bus at COP28) Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber, CBE is the Minister of Industry and Advanced Technology of the United Arab Emirates, managing director and group CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company. He is the United Arab Emirates' special envoy for climate change,and the President-Designate of the upcoming COP28 climate talks. (source:Wikipedia)

[@user-yv6vx]

Really love the Sunday uploads. Most other channels don't put out anything today so this is a treat.

[@aum82]

It’s also so the optics of the event aren’t disrupted by rabble rousers

[@ceeemm1901]

That's right, they now have these meetings in places that are impossible for protesters and the intelligentsia can get to.

[@CandC68]

I FOLLOW Paul. He is for me, a valuable source.

[@nickcooper1260]

I wonder what the carbon footprint of COP28 will be? There must be a more eco-friendly way of doing this

[@michaelcap9550]

Apparently they didn't ask Al Gore on how to do this...

[@georgehagstrom1461]

It's not important that the government take action live near work. It's an alternative life style

[@drhirise1]

To even have this event in this location is completely absurd. It a bold attempt to stop the process, and to move in the opposite direction. It is insane, and suicidal.

[@coweatsman]

Carbon capture is just bargaining, as in Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's 5 stages of grief (denial, anger, depression, bargaining and acceptance). Grief at losing our unsustainable way of life, being beyond overshoot as it is. I call it techno bargaining.

[@WoodstockG54]

Now if we can get all the fathers of the world to demonstrate .

[@larry785]

Another avenue to reduce Global Warming is Conservation of Energy. That means turning down the heat in the winter, turning up the thermostat in the summer.

[@jerrylyns7331]

How are we just going to stop using fossil fuels if we have no other method of creating renewable energy other than using fossil fuels, if we have no method of creating modern technology, other than using fossil fuels, if we have no method of creating plastic for medical equipment without the use of fossil fuels, if we have no method of creating fertilizer without the use of fossil fuels

[@solexxx8588]

Creating plastic is not the problem. Burning fossil fuels is. Plastic and rubber can be made from oil with renewable energy without burning any fossil fuels.

[@amberazurescale5617]

Their denial of declaring the 1.5° goal to be officially failed (which is obvious)... could it be for legal reasons? UNFCC calls the goal "legally binding", it seems to be related to international law and in some countries there are already related lawsuits against governments and companies. I wonder if an official declaration of 1.5° failure would allow developing countries to enforce huge damage compensation payments from GHG emitters by court? So, is it "what must not fail cannot fail"?

[@stephentrueman4843]

Julie Johnston summed it up in the vid at 7:45 - "[...] we just need to do something". The 28th or so meeting of the worlds "leaders" to reduce global emissions clearly isn't the something we are looking for.

[@EmmaSolomano]

I loved hearing from Julie, I hadn't been aware of her work until now. Thanks to all of you, it's so nice hearing interview and news style conversations about climate and the environment that don't include arguing or the false balance that most mainstream news has.

[@georgehagstrom1461]

$10 spent puts 5 pounds of carbon in the air. So we can't buy our way out.

[@lowelllodesign]

What about the topic of non-mechanized means of shading building facades ideas to lessen the use of AC worldwide?!!

[@benbashore8561]

❤❤❤

[@charlessoukup1111]

When do we stop Meeting. And start Acting??

[@chesterfinecat7588]

Careful what you ask for. Depopulation is near top of the list.

[@earthsystem]

When do we stop watching carefully and start flexing puripsefully.

[@literalghost929]

@@chesterfinecat7588 What is there to be careful about? You believe not having children is murder or something? Weird so many don't seem aware that not having children would result in a decrease of population. Too late anyhow, we are reaping what we have sown.

[@ceeemm1901]

"Language is a virus, OOOOOOOOOOO"- Laurie Anderson

[@adventurelife_]

I got a warning for poor air quality yesterday. I couldn't breathe

[@mysticalskiessuriname]

For some strange reason I always get unsubscribed. This must be at least the 3rd time I have subscribed again.

[@ArthursHD]

COP was in Poland at some point, That would have been cheap to attend :) I'll wait when it's closer to Riga.

[@robertcrane6237]

Is it a Cop casino event

[@mamapretz]

I really enjoyed this episode and the format. Thank you for the excellent content. Admittedly, I didn’t start twitching until the “unabated” part, so that’s good I suppose. Nothing quite tickles that fury emotion like climate change news.

[@jazziejim]

I told Paul before that the cop was such a waste and he shouldn’t go but now I think he should go. He should go as his most sarcastic real self! I think the cop is going to need that.

[@TheDoomWizard]

Close enough to 2°C by a 2030

[@Deebz270]

And the rest... The Earth's biosphere will reach 2 deg C of warming sooner than expected.

[@chesterfinecat7588]

8.6 billion of us may be ready to make a decision by 2030. We'll be done with religious nonsense and wars so will need something to do.

[@earthsystem]

We're not even close to bending the curve. Emissions aren't at last year's levels, they are increasing, There is no indication anyone can even stop increasing emissions.

[@carlosbcn2020]

Northeast of Spain is starting water restrictions, 210 liters per person per day.

[@THEOneAndOnlyDOCTORofHUMANICS]

Julie sounds a little bit like she is shifting to an ECOcentric Worldview, so I will contact her for a shared Zoom-conversation!?! I also like that she is with Royal Roads University. Professor-Marty.

[@JeffHiemstra]

If we remove lots of carbon from the atmosphere right away won’t that create a massive heating element due to a loss of masking?

[@guymanteau446]

Rainbows and unicorns. Indeed, Paul and all that has been done has been unethical ruthless dishonest destructive and theft. Looks like the world is dying

[@ba_charles]

keep their feet on the fire?! we aren't even tickling their toes

[@channelwarhorse3367]

For the strongest arm in history, combustion of water, wrestle the saving of the planet.

[@nr619]

already 2.06c above nov 17th 2023 .... !

[@erwin643]

This video is worth it, just to see Regina lose it. 🤣 We've already set-off all the self-reinforcing feedback loops (Just the Canadian and other fires last year put out WAY more CO2 than from any man-made, fossil fuel sources. Just deal, you guys.

[@mrrecluse7002]

Michael Mann has a typically rose colored view towards the Hanson papers, as he has in the past towards other dystopian views. He leaps through the hoops, but I think most of it is based on pure hopium, although most of us can't get past the fact that this looks very ugly, going forward.

[@coweatsman]

Nice sentiments from Julie about what women should ask for at the conference. But the bit about "a thriving economy" is a normie meme too far. It is "thriving economies" which has increased energy consumption and by extension, global warming. We not not a "thriving economy" but a "reducing economy", returning to the non human segment of the biosphere what has been taken from it. We need to question thriving economies, not blindly accept the concept as a sacred cow.

[@coweatsman]

To do better for other species we have to downsize the entire humanity in population, energy use and economic activity, be it with clean, dirty, finite or renewable energy. More for us means less for everything else. It's a zero sum game. By wishing more for our children we will allow less for everything else. Else it comes down to nice cuddly feelings bereft of understanding.

[@kirkha100]

@@coweatsmanabsolutely. This video is full of “soft denialism”.

[@russmarkham2197]

How will MENA adapt? Sounds almost impossible

[@kirkha100]

One day, we will all be Palestinians. Paul knows where all this is going. My respect for him increases. This is about Overshoot. Not climate change, which is a symptom of Overshoot. All human activity, in all contexts, must contract. It will contract. Voluntarily or involuntarily. This is called Collapse. There will never be any significant deliberate remediation or mitigation of climate change. The only path now, is adaptation. Even that is a throw of the dice. A very smart person said, “You must play the game. You cannot win. You cannot break even. You cannot quit the game.” In reference to Zeroth Law and thermal equilibrium. I suppose you/I will have achieved thermal equilibrium when we are dead. Steps taken during a walk are a series of interruptions to an inevitable and final fall.

[@jamesrichey]

You look really different with your hair pulled back Regina. 😊

[@jq747]

COP28... 75,000 people turning up, many by private jet, staying in 4-5 star motels, all patting themselves on the back that they're "doing something". Air travel aside, I'm horrified to think of the A/C energy usage alone, as I'm sure not one of the attendees would stand for 43 degree C heat. (Unlike the regular workers, of course, who have no such luxury.) The enormity of the of carbon footprint of this "climate change forum" would be hilarious if it wasn't so perverse. And at the same time they demand us mere mortals switch off our AC and take the train everywhere.

[@veganpundit1]

As responsible beings, all whom are able to adopt a plant based diet or, better yet the philosophy of veganism, should do so ASAP. Stop dismissing the effects of animal agriculture and personal choice.

[@adrianmacfhearraigh4677]

Concern for the future of children and hence humanity is laid bare in Gaza. It is extremely troubling and doesn't give any confidence in consideration for the health and safety of all generations yet to be born! What is called modernity, that 'scientific technological' progress that has gone into overdrive in the last 50-70 years, has merely enchained even ourselves into tools of self-annihilation all facilitated by warped wealth accounting mathematics transmitted by west European colonial terror in the name of trade and 'becoming wealthier'. It is that simple, yet 'experts and specialists' cling to their self-importance and status devising 'technical' solutions that will continue to fail humanity and all life beyond humanity to avert this evolving catastrophic biosphere apocalypse. Apologies for being very negative here but I'm afraid the COP process is dulling our own agency and imagination by allowing them to empower themselves by disempowering us. They don't have answers that are viable because they're ensnared in the ideology that Man has dominion over Earth and therefore is its master and can shape and mould it to his image. There is no humility and due to this it is a failed process. Such mass gatherings are hubris and full of expert hubris. Better for national governments to support local community COPs to work together to both reduce carbon and heat emissions by focusing on Net Zero Heat Emissions(NZHE) rather than Net Zero Carbon Emissions and build re-generative communities from the ground up. This should be the only agreement from the current COP process. Focusing on NZHE also has the benefit of reducing carbon emissions. These community COPs can also network and share ideas to accelerate the transition. Reparations and damages are important to address the injustices of evil imperialism, colonialism and damages due to climate chaos, but achieve this in parallel while community COPs engage with applying grassroots solutions that will reveal the inhumane and unjust systems of control and exploitation practiced by narcissistic psychopathic imperial colonialists and neo-colonialists. This will present the evidence and arguments that reparations are completely justified. It's time to move on from this format of COP and give the COP to the grassroots to get on with implementing solutions.

[@russtaylor2122]

Can we please define a baseline? Pre-industrial means 1750. I saw a graph recently using 1970 as a baseline! We all know that if one uses 1750, we're already way over 1.5... I've answered my own question. Human population and ecological overshoot combined, indicates our predicament. If the whole world lived like rural Afghans, we might prolong the agony.... Oh, the irony.

[@ClimateEmergencyForum]

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[@terencefield3204]

Net zero by 2050. I love marketing liars.

[@ceeemm1901]

"Net zero population" might be more accurate....

[@FacingFuture]

Julie's wisdom is much appreciated. She's a great addition! Also, amazing that most of the COP meals will be vegan - what a difference from Glasgow, where there was next to nothing vegan! Thanks to all of you for a great discussion.

[@ClimateEmergencyForum]

You're welcome and thank-you.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

how much flying does it take to offset the carbon cost of those vegan meals?

[@coweatsman]

Nothing about downsizing the human project in total as we are in overshoot. More inspirational than informed.

[@thuggineternal]

The only way to heal ourselves and to heal the earth is by growing our own food. Regenerative agriculture is our only hope. If everyone would get off their asses and start building community gardens we could turn this train around. Unfortunately, I'm seeing that it's going to take a traumatic event to wake people up. Only then will anyone get off their ass and start building community gardens because at that point we won't have any other choice. If people want to eat in the future we will have to incorporate urban farms into our communities. Delaying this is only going to cost lives and make it harder for ourselves in the long run.

[@ceeemm1901]

Hmmmm...look at all your neighbors in your street and at your supermarket. Do you think they're all gunna be voluntary Woodstockers? You can bet your "Om Shanti" they're not....

[@joseaugustofigueiredo2796]

Wow! Is there no more money from the PEC overflow? Brazil lies because it wants to prospect for oil at the mouth of the Amazon River and eliminate the corals in the Bahamas! Saudis want a leading role in decarbonization and partnering with Brazil is essential, says expert President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's first destination on a trip to the Middle East that began this Tuesday (28), Saudi Arabia offers a very varied and rich portfolio of investments for Brazil.1

[@dylanl2258]

I find myself disinterested in how women or men 'show up' or feel (motherly, fatherly or whatever) and more interested in what they do. If showing up with a particular identity inside is helpful (i can see how it could be) I'm interested in hearing what types of behaviors at the conference are going to be helpful, and then how certain states of identity can encourage those behaviors. Identity is important, but not when it becomes the central focus. Productive behaviors need to be the main focus. An example might be something like, "We need to stop pretending government isn't corrupted by big oil, and your maternal self can grasp the actual urgency of our situation, in these ways.."

[@earthsystem]

whatever. strong kindness is an important lens to focus on the problem of dehumanizing humans and animals, leading to indifference to climate mayhem

[@shaneelliott9045]

Hers your silver bullet either capitalism goes or everything goes even if we stop emmitting co2 today we are still on destination fkkd infinate growth is impossible with finite resources and all growth in human terms is destructive to the natural world

[@snowjoe43]

Forever hopeful ! !

[@chrisdurgin1209]

COP 28 more like a COP OUT 28 Really

[@President_NotSure]

normies get together talk like NPC's then go home

[@vthilton]

Save Our Planet Now

[@Method9]

Why legitimize this farce at all?

[@jenmorricone4014]

As Greta says, "Blah blah blah..."

[@hosnimubarak8869]

Why the denial.

[@ceeemm1901]

They who own the casino, make the house rules...

[@georgehagstrom1461]

Move closer to your work.

[@guymanteau446]

I don't really know. I haven't been to a party in 19 years and you might not have any of the background information around this childish name calling. Seems, the World is dying quickly.