what's up with these hands? | Ghost in the Shell

i should come up with a better title before this publishes. Maybe I'll upload it as a short too, and see if that makes a difference. Anyway, the idea is basically that this scene shows a lot with very little

[@alexeytelepnev9582]

any type of connection is 2 ways, keyboard is only one way

[@GordonWrigley]

​@@MANTISxB it's much harder to hack someones implants via keyboard and monitor vs if they are directly plugged in, this comes up a bunch more in the TV series where they have androids that interface with computers with the spider hands for the same reason, although a bunch of sentient tanks F over one of those androids by telling it a riddle so 🤷‍♂

[@mistercohaagen]

That's actually almost correct. Most connections have a thing that raises or lowers the voltage (1 versus 0), and on the opposing end a thing that reads that voltage. There are "1-wire" protocols that wait specific intervals and share a wire, but USB, or PS2 connections (keyboard type) themselves have bi-directional serial connections, and each dataflow direction is on it's own wire. When you type, there are "button on" and "button off" messages send over the TX wire, along with some error correction. The RX wire on a keyboard basically controls your Capslock and other LED's, which could technically be used to send information to the user, though as far as we know it's non-destructive. Most connections are 1-way, they just bundle them into bi-directional bundles of cable. I'm trying to think of an abstraction.... it's like UDP versus TCP. Actually that doesn't work either. Meh, you're correct enough. But the connections themselves are dumb; all the intelligence resides in whatever is using that connection. I feel like there is a deeper philosophy I'm missing here, especially related to GITS. But you right.

[@alexeytelepnev9582]

i think you can block any incoming signal on hardware lvl and have output, this output can just simulate keyboard and monitor will be input, but keyboard is input, and monitor is output

[@mistercohaagen]

@@alexeytelepnev9582 100%, absolutely correct.

[@ltcuddles685]

@@mistercohaagen You're thinking too far with this. physically *TYPING* on a keyboard is a one way connection

[@FelipeTadeu-ky5iy]

There was a old reddit post that someone calculated how fast those hands would work as an input method and it was some crazy numbers, like almost enough so some processors wouldn't be able to keep up

[@todaysdystopia283]

Classic Shirow mechanical design. That cool and simple cyberpunk concept that is made solely to solve one specific problem, get one specific task done. Reminds me of the original System Shock, a dungeon crawler where movement was a little clunky and made exploration quite dangerous and enemies hard to react to. One of the augmentations in that game literally just puts a camera in the back of your head... so you can watch your back better. It's almost just as silly as having a super hand made for typing ultra fast... but you can't say it's not useful or it doesn't work. Anyway, cool video! Hope to see more of these!

[@DanielJoyce]

Its a analog high speed specifcally intended to avoid back hacking. Its mentioned in the manga. They are used in ultra high security situations as a physical firewall/airgap. So they would have an android with these hands interface with a screen/keyboard and people could then brain dive the android. The android would then interface with the system that was a severe security threat.

[@KairuHakubi]

it's so quaint how we used to have robots and cyborgs doing things like this, or tapping things on their own bodies, or even giving their own bodies' computers vocal commands... or even, plugging in with cords. They didn't ever realize it would all be done silently and wirelessly. But like you pointed out, that would also be boring. and hey, the fingers would also be useful for building model kits!

[@aleksgold7540]

Good Vid