What Sony Isn't Saying About The PlayStation Portal

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[@tyronejennings599]

You say that it's difficult to hold up two separate consoles I disagree with you. If Sony makes a successor to the PSP that plays PS5 games in cartridge format that could actually work

[@whothehelliscarlos420]

Apple is crying

[@Satwr]

​@@tyronejennings599 That's not how it works, you can't just put the Ps5 game on a cardrige and put it in a handheld console without extra programming xD Its not something he says as an opinion its a fact... Game developers get there games barily to run on 3 devices (PC, Ps5, Xbox) how will that look like when there is a 2nd console from each company Sony/Xbox = Handheld / Nintendo = HomeConsole?​

[@tyronejennings599]

@@Satwr Look at the steam deck it can run without any issues & yes I'm aware that it doesn't use cartridges.

[@chriswright8074]

There is no use cause they already devices that can do what this does ..you have to buy a PS5 buy games buy this device to use it when your phone or tablet you already have can do the job

[@lemonatorpk]

Crazy that the vita (in my opinion) is still a great purchase and does everything I wanted out of the playstation portal.

[@rtbear674]

Good thing with vita is the graphic and resolution is good enough not to be bothered by it even for current year. I thought by using smartphone hardware for vita, it'll be have better compatibility as well as backward compatible from PSV 2 and PSV if they decided to make one. I don't feel like buying ps5, and now this.

[@dan-ger6963]

It's a shame they don't update the remote play to work with PlayStation 5 as well as PlayStation 4

[@KyushuTrail]

Yeah I bought a vita and a bunch of games recently. It’s great

[@darrensanders653]

Why did it fail because it never got a chance their was to many haters like this when it came out

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Steam deck is a better buy

[@EdwardPHandsBasedManchild]

I'm sure there will be those who will definitely get value out of this. But as someone who grew up with the PSP and DS systems, this was a letdown. This is basically a $200 paperweight to me. :/

[@nickolaswilcox425]

if it were able todo the ps3 streaming i could easily see this selling well with or without bluetooth and driving subscriptions too, but as is? i might get one for my collection eventually, but i hardly have a use case for it

[@kellyd1910]

​@@nickolaswilcox425L

[@6reen6uy]

@@nickolaswilcox425part of the problem, you people and your stupid “collections” haha.

[@Jawwaad1111]

I’m definitely going to get value out of this as now I can watch TV and play my PS5 at the same time though I’ll probably wait for a sale as I’m still battling through my 3DS backlog

[@MisterUrbanWorld]

Lol at psp and ds. I grew up on OG GameBoy and Sega Game Gear

[@kuricosmos]

Regarding the WiiU comparisons, the technology is there to do the full dual-screen if they wanted. It's just the thing people loved the most about WiiU, was just playing your game completely from the GamePad, myself included.

[@DJVexillum]

The Vita really does still feel modern, I just went out today and picked up three Vita games I found at my local hobby shop. Still a wonderful neat little system

[@darrensanders653]

Yet when it came out influencers destroyed it only years later people realised how good it was the damaged sorta sounds familiar what happening now huh 🤔

[@xxBLKSNXxx]

I just bought a new one from Japan, can't wait to get it.

[@victoriarichardson9609]

I actually bought a damaged one and rebuilt it. Still seems like a more purchase than this.

[@DigitalVersionOfMe]

@@xxBLKSNXxxwhere do you buy it? Link.. are they real?

[@Walking-MY-Path]

@@DigitalVersionOfMe Amazon or Ebay

[@ultimablackmage]

The lack of 5G & Bluetooth was a bad decision for the PS Portal. Cloud streaming via PS+ would be a nice feature in an update for it.

[@MithosDagon]

I’m waiting till it comes out to pass judgment on that. The previews were saying they removed Bluetooth for latency. That and Sony is marketing this as an at home device even though it works as long as it is on Wi-Fi. This tells me that they built it to have the lowest possible latency and could work better than the apps. If that’s the case, it would be worth it to me.

[@M_CFV]

@@MithosDagon the steam deck can do all of that + can stream outside the house using Tailscale alongside Moonlight (or Sunshine). And it can natively play almost any game in history, for $200 more ($130 more on a good sale)

[@holyheretic3185]

@@MithosDagon yeah people are thinking of this and going why didn't sony make a hand held console? Because this is cheaper. Anything with cloud server would have made it too laggy, Nintendo cant even get online to work right why risk it for this? 200 bucks for first world people who already have a ps5, so they can play and have their TV be a TV, isnt a bad deal.

[@saesang352]

5G is meh, latency is horrible. But yeah I have no idea why this doesn’t have cloud streaming

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

People forget that the Xbox doesn't support Bluetooth either. There's a technical reason for it, it's not a conspiracy.

[@marshmardgames9884]

That sponsored product at the beginning is far more interesting than the PlayStation portal

[@bltzcstrnx]

Agreed, I even listen to it carefully.

[@offspringfan89]

lmao

[@Stunbunny]

Truth! I’m looking for reviews after this video.

[@cactusrosi1409]

Reading minds over here lol

[@tylerl250]

​@@Stunbunnyhave a pair cuz backed the kickstarter have the neckband too works pretty good

[@FSAPOJake]

It's just so weird to me that this thing doesn't support PS+ Cloud Streaming. That's absolutely insane.

[@seuper_gaming]

your internet speeds would have to be higher for cloud streaming for 1.

[@joegardner851]

@@seuper_gaminghere’s the thing, you can stream games on your console. Why can’t this? Xbox partnered up with a company that’s a android handheld and it also stream games off of gamepass. Internet speed or not, it’s possible

[@ulrichleukam1068]

They will probably enable it down the line, as they did not yet revealed Project Chronos which is the next gen PS+ Cloud Streaming

[@jubez187]

You don't need super great speed for cloud lol @@seuper_gaming

[@jubez187]

It would give people an avenue to buy this and not the PS5. They want to ultimately sell PS5's. Meanwhile, microsoft wants subs. They'll let you stream gamepass on a TV (no console, like directly to the TV)

[@maj02jr]

ps portal really shows that the wii u was ahead of its time

[@stevenstocker9873]

Er no. Both the psp and Vita had a cross play feature well before the wiiu. Nintendo had switch idea but thought they could've cheap out, only to find the public was going to buy that . Forcing them to bring out their a game...

[@pr3st00]

While Wiiu as whole was a big failure, the technology behind It was indeed ahead of its time. It certainly deserved more attention..

[@VagrantValmar]

The Wii U had zero lag wireless streaming. No other remote play option I've ever used is that good

[@christianr.5868]

@@VagrantValmarexactly, the only good experience I’ve had with streaming

[@ElZamo92]

No.. the Wii U was dumb, this is just 10x dumber because we all know that the Wii U was dumb and they still made the Wii U again.

[@combatpainter14]

Honestly my main problem with the portal is with how it does its remote play, because it functions like other wifi only remote play solutions such as xbox's remote play or something like parsec or moonlight for pc. Meaning that it will end up having the same problems that the others have with things like increased latency or stuttering due to short drops in wifi connection. Compare this to how the wii u gampad works with how it has a direct, no interference connection with the wii u itself, leading to practically no latency at the cost of a shorter range. Imagine if sony had done a hybrid design with these implementations, with long range wifi streaming and then a short range wii u gamepad like connection for a no compromises, zero latency experience.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

Basically the whole proprietary connection thing they doing with the new playstation earbuds and pulse elite, they should've had that be a mode for the actual streaming device as well. Heck even the vita could do a direct connection to the ps4, why can't the portal?

[@Death_To_Kong]

I agree, but the short range of the WiiU made it nearly useless for me personally.

[@lordeilluminati]

​​​@@Death_To_Kong thing is, the short range is just because.of the positioning. It is no different than any 5ghz wireless device. The wii u has an antenna pointed towards the front of the console since it expects the player to use the gamepad in front of the device. If you move the front of the console to where you want to use the reception will be better

[@Neo7Geo]

I use my Steam Deck to Stream Xbox X and PS5 and its amazing (localy). I have a mesh wifi installed so I can play in the garden and all round the house. I guess it's up to how good your Wifi is and if you somtimes you want to use it away from the main TV's. Personaly I am going to get it.

[@roygelissen2709]

I play my ps5 remote on the Switch. Works fine. I do sort of like the portal because it's also a controller just One with a pretty big screen.

[@BeamerTime354]

I love how they show it off on the fastest WiFi possible yet most people have older WiFi and will not get the same experience.

[@zengamer21]

So upgrade your wifi? It's not expensive.

[@UltimateInkling]

​@@zengamer21how do u know?

[@bfhandsomeface409]

Well if you have garbage internet this might not be a good purchase for you lol, but a lot of people have decent WiFi now.

[@JMsolidsnake]

​@bfhandsomeface409 speak for yourself. My area has trash internet no matter what company you go with

[@jeretron0]

​@@zengamer21it's not the wifi ...it's the internet speeds. You can upgrade wifi hardware all you want . If you can only get 5mb speed this isn't gonna work.

[@xSuspect-7]

If that is $200 imagine if they did a dedicated portable

[@myralchista]

599$ min to support ps5 games. Another failedd vita 2... Sony did everything right, sales gonna be huge

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

@@myralchistasales are gonna be huge? For what? That paperweight Sony peddled out?

[@johnflapper]

I'm really looking forward to this. I work full time, have a 2 year old, most of my gaming the last couple of years has been Switch handheld in my own home. This fits in that window for me, so I might FINALLY be able to play through Horizon Zero Dawn

[@James-gj8rn]

They're not saying it's a waste of money who in their right mind would pay £200 for a handheld that isn't even a handheld

[@vivid8979]

You're underestimating 1st World citizens... They're the #1 enabler of this kind of stupidity...

[@dookie_12]

CONSOOMERS “PS logo on box, gotta CONSOOM!”

[@ABD-pc3jf]

Dont worry. It won't take long for this thing to drop in price just like the ps1 classic.

[@no-barknoonan1335]

​@@ABD-pc3jfEven at half the price it's a ripoff, even at quarter price its a ripoff. Classic Pony response tho "Don't worry.", you're projecting, no one is worrying, everyone is laughing.

[@lizardman1303]

@@no-barknoonan1335 I’ll wait for when it drops to half price . But I’m sure the market is for people with larger family’s or people with kids since u can’t leave them in a room alone and they are taking over the tv .

[@itsTheCurry]

i use my old phone with a razer kishi, and that can even run some gamecube games and has a battery that can keep a charge longer than the portal.

[@MCAWESOME19]

This product is not going to sell that well

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

It will sell, but parents will complain, because it doesn't work without a Playstation 5 :P

[@fattiger6957]

I doubt Sony is hoping for it to be a massive success or anything. It's just another accessory.

[@VagrantValmar]

​@@fattiger6957Sony is just hoping to trick parents into buying this.

[@furyiv]

You're not gonna get ps5 games running on a local device. This serves a specific purpose and seems to do well for it. I rarely get screentime these days so this device is exactly what I need.

[@richjkrt]

I think one of the issues regarding the reason cloud streaming isn't available (and to echo the sentiment it could be added later) is that at the moment cloud PS cloud streaming isn't available in all countries. I live in Australia and we have a modified top tier of PS Plus called Deluxe which omits cloud gaming, so I think what Spawn said about waiting for this new streaming service is probably it.

[@gaxy7724]

Its the same in Colombia. Lets hope the best.

[@Berrytenor]

I just use remote play on my phone and also use my Vita. I don’t feel the need to get this at all

[@vanceg4901]

How will Playstation Portal avoid compression artifacts and input lag? Last night I played Quake II on local hardware and controls were very good, streaming to a Samsung Galaxy tablet Quake II had somewhat imprecise controls and randomly had pixel breakup.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

Make an actual handheld, that’s how.

[@vanceg4901]

@@I_SuperHiro_I - Our best buddy Jimbo Ryan wouldn't stear us wrong, would he? 🤕.

[@crestofhonor2349]

That’s based on your internet

[@vanceg4901]

@@crestofhonor2349 - 300 down 15 up and 5G wifi.

[@MithosDagon]

I am reserving judgment till it comes out…but this is supposed to have a better connection to the PS5. I currently use my ROG Ally for remote play with Ethernet. If this device works better, I will probably pick it up.

[@ChizFri]

I still think that the best thing SONY could do with the Portal is second screen gaming like the Wii U. The Vita also had functionality like this with the games that supported it.

[@Otacon1105]

It was terrible when WiiU did it. It was probably terrible when the vita did it. It’ll be terrible if PS5 did it. Idk why people compare this accessory to actual failed consoles and be like “yeah do that again instead” lmao

[@Icebgriz]

​@@Otacon1105I ACTUALLY LIKED THE WII U

[@Merco81]

You should probably clarify that the portal does have an audio jack.... so wired headphones work and any bluetooth headset that has an audio jack will also work. That being said, I can see personal use cases for me as well but the explore earbuds are a much bigger sell for me right now. I can easily see them being used regularly with my PS5 and PSVR2 to work between the two without fumbling with audio settings. Getting the portal later on and having my earbuds work between the PS5, PSVR2 and Portal will be an added bonus.

[@Death_To_Kong]

I’m all in on Portal. I understand disappointment towards it not being a dedicated handheld platform, but I also don’t really care. I’m more interested in laying in my bed and playing my PS5. I currently use remote play on my laptop and although it works nearly perfectly, I find it to be cumbersome. This will streamline remote play onto an all in one device. I also don’t care about lack of Bluetooth.

[@lk92]

People are confusing this as a handheld but its really an accessory, I'll definitely be getting one to play gran turismo around the home, and free up my phone for work calls.

[@TheFondalizer]

Racing games off wifi sounds like an awful experience especially if you've never streamed games before. Even being half a second of latency will easily ruin it. I'd like a handheld from Sony not a glorified tablet that I can already use in the same way.

[@lk92]

@@TheFondalizer streaming works fine on my wifi, and no one cares what you want. Devs don't want another system to develop for.

[@lk92]

@@Mycarisloose not everyone plays with a wheel, some of us just wanna unwind

[@nicktrask4717]

It’s a piece of garbage it is what it is

[@thegaminggambit2089]

Instead of being advertised as a remote play device it would better serve as a second screen controller with a remote play option.

[@Cjay2200]

It is the same thing for the PS5, you cannot natively connect bluetooth headphones. It is really a shame....I don't get why the Playstation Portal doesn't offer more. Wouldn't it be nice if it could be used as a second controller or even a controller with added features? Like to be able to see your party chat, volume controls, shared screen, anything really...Am I the only one who would be interested in that?

[@holyheretic3185]

I can't BT my Naga on my ps5 either

[@fattiger6957]

Bog standard BT like the kind they put on most phones has too much latency to comfortably play games. To get the kind of latency that is acceptable for playing games, you need to use specific BT codecs like APTX LL or Adaptive. Those are proprietary and Sony would need to pay licensing fees to use them. It might even require qualcom hardware, but I can't find information on whether it is hardware or software based. I imagine this new PS Link thing uses a codec that Sony developed in-house so they don't have to deal with licensing deals.

[@Nerevarine420]

​@fattiger6957 yet the switch can do it ? Just say sony Is cheap and lazy

[@holyheretic3185]

@@Nerevarine420 when Nintendo cant* do online in the first place it kinda proves this is the better idea.

[@fattiger6957]

@@Nerevarine420 Switch can connect to BT headphones, but it has lag. Nintendo didn't license APTX either. Everyone has different tolerances, but I can't stand the kind of lag you get without a low latency codec. In a way, you can say Sony is being cheap. But they are also trying to push their own headphones which I'm sure use their own BT codec.

[@silvergreen333]

They could have simply named it the "PlayStation Remote Play Controller" to avoid any confusion.

[@XionSteel]

I would say that it has an audience if around 4% at best. In the end its Sony's take on the WiiU and unlike Nintendo, Sony isnt really catered to being a family console so it'll have the sales numbers to match it's use case. They will either keep this as an obscure item or else very quickly unlock it (if its capable of doing so) with an update to do more then local wifi streaming.

[@fattiger6957]

I don't think they're expecting it to set any sales records. So even if 4% of the userbase buys the thing, that's like 4 million sales over PS5's lifetime which is probably beyond Sony's expectations.

[@Giliver]

Nah it's just a lazy ass product so Sony can say "we tried portable but it didn't sell well"

[@testoftimegaming5219]

this will likely do alright in japan and china were its common for a family home to only have 1 tv

[@dapperfan44]

It's not a Wii U, the Wii U is a whole console that more often than not requires the tablet. And unlike Wii U, you can take Portal anywhere. It's still a waste of money if you have a controller/tablet and a smartphone already though.

[@fattiger6957]

@@testoftimegaming5219 The problem is that home consoles just aren't popular in Japan anymore. Haven't been since the PS3 days. And that's not just for Sony. The Wii U was specifically designed for Japanese tastes and it still did horribly there.

[@balaam_7087]

They’re building an apartment complex across the street from me, and the construction guys just put in a handicap accessible ramp. Now everyone who can walk is screaming at the construction dudes because the ramp is useless to them. Meanwhile the guy in the wheelchair is happy now because it’s a good use case for him.

[@kchorro2012]

If this feels useless with a 199.99 price point in the US imagine in other countries in which it'll probably be sold at the equivalent of 250~300 dollars. You can absolutely get a pretty decent phone or a switch for that money. The dualsense features aren't really that much of a selling point as Sony think they are.

[@fattiger6957]

And most people probably have an old phone sitting around somewhere that they can use as a dedicated remote play device if they really want it.

[@MithosDagon]

Good for you as you are not the target audience

[@Giliver]

​@@MithosDagonthe only "target audience" that exists for this product are fools who aren't aware you can do this for FREE with your phone. This product is literally fucking useless, an old cell phone you put in a drawer 3 years ago would legitimately do a better job.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

I remember people saying that this would have cost 300 and more. Now that the price is 199 people are still complaining.

[@kchorro2012]

@@MithosDagon I could be if the price was justified with features we actually care about (4g/5g support, cloud support for ps plus premium, Bluetooth). I already own a ps5, a real portable device would be very welcome.

[@cohibadad]

Dude. I thought this thing was ridiculous originally. But now I think it’s brilliant. For my use case at least. I would be so much more likely to play PS5 games if I could play reasonably on a device like this. If you have a good Wi-Fi. If you want to be mobile, even if just in your home. If their “portal” play is as good or better than PS Play with a Bluetooth controller on my iPhone or iPad, I am so into this device. I’m looking daily for the presale. And you already have this thing portable, the cheapest way to get great audio is through and audio jack. Bluetooth audio would be a nice option but given the choice between $199 as it is or higher price for Bluetooth there really is no choice here. $199 is a great price for this!

[@zachlegend8726]

These are my thoughts exactly.

[@viciousviolet3783]

I will 100% be getting the Playstation Portal. Yes i totally understand it's not for everyone but for me it makes sense. Also i don't mind having to buy the new headphones as i was planing on getting new ones as my galaxy buds no longer work properly. And yes it's the same price as a switch lite but the switch lite doesn't have an 8 inch display and also doesn't play PS5 games. I'm also thinking Sony might be using this as a stepping stone towards releasing a new dedicated handheld.

[@Neo7Geo]

Steam Deck can stream PS5 too.

[@viciousviolet3783]

@@Neo7Geo it's not the same tho and doesn't have all the features. Plus you can't buy it in store in Australia

[@viciousviolet3783]

@@Neo7Geo i honestly couldn't care less about the Steam deck. Not interested in it at all.

[@Neo7Geo]

Totally but it shows how good local streaming is now. I am all in for the portal for the pad features.@@viciousviolet3783

[@alexandermccalla5098]

Considering the fact that they made a 3G model of the PS VITA, I'm surprised that they didn't do something similar for the portal so that you can use it on the go, as long as your ps5 is on and you have decent reception.

[@drivillain4967]

Another problem is how late it came out for the life cycle of the PS5. With a fourth month old in the house, I can't always just go to my game room and play my games, that's why I bought a Backbone in June of this year to play my PS5 remotely. If this came out earlier, I might have ended up getting this, but not now.

[@MATTierial]

I think the answer here is don't make two ecosystems. Make a handheld that can play every PS4 game digitally. Make it so you can remote play your PS5. Then, open it up for indie developers to develop games for it.

[@chibicascade]

I think the biggest problem here is not the device, but the price point for what you get. For $100 more, you could have an Xbox series S. For $200 more, you could have the base level steam deck. For the exact same price, you could have an AYN Odin light, which will do everything this device will do and more. For $170, you can buy an Amazon fire tablet 8 and a dual sense controller, which would allow for the exact same setup as what Sony is offering. You could even take 50 bucks off if you buy the refurbished one. It is a niche product at a bad price, and while it is cool to have it as an all-in-one package, it's just hard to justify when there are so many better options for the money.

[@rum918]

For $15000 more you can get a car and for $200 000 more you can buy a house

[@shrub9677]

@@rum918 that is probably the worst response you could have made

[@DZA3051]

make this make sense

[@VITURE]

Thank you for having us! We're optimistic about the future of handheld gaming, but screen or no screen there's no better way to play on the go than VITURE One. 😎

[@M_Tc]

Perfect timing love listening on my way to work

[@pizzakoe]

This is not the concept of the Wii U, this thing is what people thought the Wii U was (a tablet to go with the existing Wii)

[@snacks1994]

I hope if they do make another portable console it is not digital only. I have good memories of planning out my day to get to GameStop for a Vita game release then still have time to catch my train to college.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

At this point you should just buy a portable system. There are sooooo many.

[@riptaiyo]

Why? It should be digital only. It’s a win win for both consumer and seller. They get more digital sales, we can keep our library across consoles.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

@@riptaiyo how is that a win if you like physical? If you go digital then physical has zero effect on you.

[@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose]

​​​​​​​​@@riptaiyoUnless sony decides to go digital only and than later on they changed there mind and want to remove the digital games that people already paid for like they already do with the digital movies. Going digital is just licensing fees being sold to consumers instead of the manufacturers paying the licensing fees and anything with digital. You don't own anything digital since it can be removed and taken out completely even when you already paid for it. I play games on pc and the games I use to play on steam was removed from steam and I had to buy the physical copy on consoles in order to play the games that was removed on steam. The same thing could happen with an only digital console. The digital only console is just e-waste and paperweight when they are discontinued and stopped being supported and when a manufacture wants the consumer not allow access to the digital content and by removing the digital content the consumer already purchased they can already do that since it's a loop hole with anything digital. It does not make any sense to keep something when it's a digital version when its discontinued and not supported. I can still play my ps3 games even though it was discontinued and stopped being supported. The same thing can't be said with any digital whether it's video games, music and movies. Movies and music have drm which restricts access to the consumers. By allowing physical media the consumer has full control. When companies go digital they have full control of there consumers and they can abuse the flaws that comes with anything digital and it's already happening with music and movies and almost everything has turned into a subscription service. When someone buys a physical copy of a cd, vinyl record or a physical copy of a 4k movie. It can't be removed due to licensing issues like anything with digital. With any form of physical media, the manufacturers don't have control but the consumers have control. It benefits the consumers not the manufacturers. I wanna be able to own what I paid for even when it stops receiving support and have control over what I paid for instead of the manufacturers having control of what I paid for. Digital is convenient just like fast food such as mcdonalds and burger king. I hate the idea of own nothing and being happy about it and than with subscriptions services prices always increasing. When I pay for something once with any form of physical media. I don't need to pay for a subscription fee when I paid for something once. I can play the physical media anytime i want without paying for a subscription fee since it's free to play since I already own what I bought. When I bought the digital version of games on steam and than I have to go pay for it again with a physical copy, it's not a win win for consumer but a win win for the manufacturers and brands. For example, when bluetooth headphones batteries degrade and stopped holding a charge, you have to throw them away since the batteries are not user replaceable and bluetooth headphones are another form of e-waste just like a digital only game console and are planned obsolescence. I have a drawer full of bluetooth headphones that stopped holding a charge and the batteries need to be replaced. My wired headphones have even out lasted my bluetooth headphones. I have wired headphones that are user removable and user replaceable and even more affordable than any pair of decent bluetooth headphones. I went back to wired headphones since there are so many benefits with wired headphones. Wired headphones don't have batteries that needs to be replaced when the batteries degrade throughout prolong use. Wired headphones have superior sound quality compared to bluetooth headphones and don't rely on an app to work properly compared to certain models of bluetooth headphones. Certain models of bluetooth headphones rely on an app to function properly and can be bricked intentionally by the manufacturers with an app with an over the air update in order to sell as many pair of new bluetooth headphones to as many consumers as possible every year. The airpod max relys on bluetooth and batteries to work properly since there is no way to turn them off completely since there is no switch to turn them off and on when they are not being used. I use the headphone jack all the time and I use my micro sd card all the time. I don't pay for any streaming services. I still watch live tv from the dish network app and I only time I stream is unless I can stream for free otherwise I stick with physical media and buy my physical media. I still buy cds, 4k, blu ray and dvd movies. I rip the cds and store my music locally on my micro sd cards and listen to my music offline without needing an internet connection. It's why I bought the sony xperia 1 iv android phone since it still has the headphone jack and micro sd card slot plus it has the 21:9 aspect ratio with it's 4k 120 hz oled display.

[@Merco81]

I can understand where Sony's coming from on the remote play angle... from a development angle it's pretty much putting all PS5 games on a mobile platform with no additional development cost. Part of the issue with the Vita had been the development costs associated with developing for a separate sku, splitting development resources, and having Switch platform outselling them and having their entire team dedicated to a hybrid console. PS5 made the business smart decision to focus on their console.

[@jay.p.88]

It's garbage. That's what they're not saying.

[@ricoxkiller]

If it does what it intends to do, then it will be the best device/configuration for remote play on the market: then it will be a device worth getting for some people. A fully functioning dualsense ($70) with an 8 inch screen ($80) and the form factor/technology/and closed ecosystem even makes the price appropriate.

[@jhonathandio1]

​@@ricoxkillerwithout Bluetooth. Please don't be a Sony pony. Not even Apple is this greedy

[@ricoxkiller]

@@jhonathandio1 Ps5 doesn't have Bluetooth and neither does Xbox. It's never been a thing. For whatever reason they exclude BT, it's not part of their hardware ecosystem, so why would they include it now?

[@maxisenberg9093]

Not being for tou doesn't make it garbage troll

[@Yami_Industries]

​@@ricoxkilleryou don't have phones and a backbone controller

[@PilotPerkins]

Would be nice if they did a PlayStation PC launcher with cross-saves.

[@JubeiSenpai]

Sony always makes the most pointless gaming accessories with the most bare minimum features at the most premium price 🤦‍♂️

[@preay12345]

There are plenty of 3.5mm jack to Bluetooth adaptors that could be used to link to Bluetooth peripherals

[@riptaiyo]

Yeah I have a home spot for my switch. When this goes on sale for 50% I’ll buy this and use my home spot

[@lucasstephens5003]

THANK YOU! Finally, someone with a logical explanation of why you'd use this over a Backbone! So tired of people going, "Why not just get a Backbone?" Because reasons!

[@dramosuk]

Just play on your ps5 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jhix1816]

I like to play in different rooms. PS5 is huge not fun plugging it up and moving around

[@flamesword300]

I’d be willing to buy the PlayStation Portal if it had Bluetooth audio,could use PS cloud gaming, and took advantage of the screen for games while playing on the PS5 at the minimum. What I mean for the screen is like if I could have the map up for an open world game on it,or manage my in game inventories using the screen. Just ways to use the screen on the portal to enhance the gaming experience on the PS5.

[@magnusalexander2965]

It's an easy product to understand: it's a controller with a screen on it. I'll get one for when my GF or kids use the TV when I want to play. A little annoying that my Pulse headset won't work wirelessly with it and I have to use the cable, but seems like a decent deal for the price

[@G360LIVE]

Nintendo thought the Wii U was an easy product to understand.

[@dookie_12]

The Portal hasn’t been released yet and I already have three devices that have remote play and controller support.

[@jordanwhite352]

Also hang on a moment. Did you say that you're going to give the gaming device to your kids when you want to play the PlayStation? 5?? I don't think they confirmed that you can use the streaming device while you're using your main system. I'm not saying it can't do that. I'm saying I've never seen them advertised that.

[@IHitTheWater]

Yeah like all the people complaining are just not the people who this is for

[@RayRayZ28]

Then use your phone, you’ll save money. This is the biggest, most useless device. There’s nothing positive about, and it being a PlayStation controller, the battery will surely suck. Save your money sir

[@twicethemegapower3995]

I don't need one bc the ROG Ally does remote play, but I don't understand all the hate for the Portal. It's "Old Man Yells At Cloud Shaped Like A Nintendo Switch Lite" Energy

[@RebuildandRenovate]

What i'm expecting, is for Sony to drop another "premium" model with a z1 extreme processor to compete with rog ally while at the same time stream from the ps5. would also love to see 5g support to stream from your ps5 thats at home!

[@TalonJHGaming]

The problem is what games would it play? The options are, you let it play PS5 games at lower setting with some just not working and being a similar problem like what issues the Serise S is having, or you create native games and that take attention/resources from PS5 development, meaning either fewer games for both or having to think about the portable version when creating PS5 games which brings us back to the first problem.

[@wendelllawson3320]

@@TalonJHGamingall of the games will work because the horsepower is being handled by the PS5 and the handheld is just mirroring that on a second screen.

[@TalonJHGaming]

@@wendelllawson3320 Sorry, I'm repling to someone that is looking for a something more similar to the Rog Ally and Steam Deck. They are asking for the same processor that is in the Ally, the z1 extreme chip.

[@RebuildandRenovate]

@@TalonJHGaming the ROG ally with the z1 extreme chip already plays AAA PS5 games, imagine what Sony could do if they were involved? i'm sure they can push for 120 fps!! 1080p has much better pixel density on handheld devices and people wont be able to tell the difference from 4k on the big screen! and if it were to have 5g support, you can stream games you own from home, or also from PS + (sonys version of gamepass)

[@TalonJHGaming]

@@RebuildandRenovate I have a RoG Ally. I love it and use it to remote play both my XBSX and PS5. The problem is Sony needing to develop for another platform and slipping resources with it. A Developer can only work on so many games at a time and ports aren’t a trivial amount of work. I would prefer that since they’ve already decided to port some of their games to PC to instead work on a launcher for their PC releases that let’s you earn trophies, cross save, etc.. That way, the Steam Deck, RoG Ally and any portable PC becomes a sort of 3rd Party Playstation Portable without having to worry about creating games for it or spending money to R&D portable system that could go towards creating more games. At least with the Portal, they aren’t wasting resources on games specifically on the Portal. They do need to get PS+ cloud streaming working on this though.

[@Zaque-TV]

Dualsense with a phone clip adapter is the way to go. The no bluetooth is an insult.

[@enriquepinero707]

The world has a delusional and unhealthy obsession with depending on the internet. It is a finite resource. Even if everyone had "THE FASEST" service; it would still cuase congestion, fropped connections and lag; then forcing companies to "upgrade the service" to provide a small window of time, where you qould have stable service. Gaming needs to offer permanent offline solutions to play games l, using the internet as a supplemental, once in a while option and not the main way to play. For as behind as Nintendo is in this area; it is actually a strenght that they put most of their efforts in offline single and multiplayer solutions.

[@MegaManZer088]

I have a Asus ROG 6, a dualsense controller connected to it and a phone holder, this setup works great for me with remote play.

[@Tackitt]

How did this make it past the idea phase?

[@albinoDlN0]

The problem with the PsPortal is that it costs $200 for something you can do for free. It’s basically useless. Everyone owns a phone, the ps4/5 comes with a controller, just download the remote play app and boom. You can even play long distance. I’ve done it, it’s okay but it still works. There is no point for the Portal. It basically serves no purpose.

[@reahslademhA]

All i know from my years of following games is that when other companies start copying nintendo, then nintendo comes out with a brand new crazy idea. And im excited for that. This portal thing doesnt make sense to me. It’s weird, it reminds me of the wii u somehow.

[@RAHelllord]

It's effectively meant for couch gaming away from the TV. Want to sit in your backyard and play some PS5? You can do that. Want to play a round in bed? You can do that. That sort of "game in your home where you want" has become pretty big in recent years, and the steam deck is another great example that fills the same niche. However unlike Valve that can get away with cramming a dedicated PC into the shell Sony wouldn't have been able to do that as easily. Making the PS5 run natively in a mobile format is impossible and a new successor to the Vita would be too expensive. This is pretty much the best they could do given their current hand.

[@christianr.5868]

@@RAHelllordyeah but you can already stream your ps4 to plenty of devices, including the steam deck. This is kindve just redundant

[@TheFondalizer]

@@RAHelllord You can't do it outside because the wifi connection is prob way weaker outside, most places are at least. Steam deck is in a different market entirely. you actually get games on a steam deck and can buy from a massive selection of games while you get a stream on portal, only of games you have on your ps5 and streaming is not ready for most games even at what they say is max internet speeds. Just one of the reasons google failed in the gaming sphere. If plenty of companies are putting out handheld PC's than Sony can definitely try to make a PS handheld with their milliions more dollars, they're just scared. This thing is gonna flop and I feel bad for anybody willingly streaming their games when they could just go in another room to play it. Unless it's a puzzle game or a turn based rpg it will most certainly mess up the game

[@RAHelllord]

@@TheFondalizer Getting a good wifi connection in your backyard isn't hard. You either just have to place the router in a smart place or get a cheap second one and extend the network. As for handheld, Sony could certainly offer a PC handheld, but it would eat into their branding if it's PS branded but doesn't support any PS games. If it's android based they'd have to cooperate with the phone division and that one has been irrelevant for half a decade now, and carries the same branding issue. And if they make an actual PS handheld they need to invest heavily actually making games for that thing, too, which they don't want. The vita didn't make them as much money as they wanted and this would just be the same.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

​@@christianr.5868cope harder Nintendrone lol

[@D3sdinova]

I do miss the smaller pocketable handhelds, i still carry my 3DS sometimes. Switch or steamdeck are ok for backpack trips or something, but its just not the same.

[@christianr.5868]

Gpd win max mini, it’s stronger than a steam deck with the formfactor of a 3ds xl

[@D3sdinova]

@@christianr.5868 that sounds amazing, hows the battey life?

[@ToxMod]

John how can you say PSP days are over when Sony literally just came out with this device. Baby steps John, this machine will evolve. You (your channel) should do the same.

[@christianr.5868]

Is this sarcasm? The machine literally can’t do anything without a ps5. It can’t “evolve” Sony’s given up on dedicated handhelds. And this here is proof

[@ToxMod]

⁠​⁠@@christianr.5868 sounds like you need to let your brain evolve. Think outside the box. Yes this is just a shell of a handheld when compared to others, but just think what the next iteration of this device will be able to do. Imagine playing PS5 games straight from the cloud any where in the world where WiFi is available.💡

[@HensonKwong]

Not sure if this will actually happen, but it would a really good second screen, like if playing gta6, that's where the map would be, or item and equipment for Baldur's gate 3 etc

[@jordanwhite352]

You know one of the things that's not talked about when it comes to the PlayStation Vita is that it was really obvious that this was the core Japanese company of Sony's division because they're still very Japanese centric and they didn't get the memo that Sony is basically a global western company now, so no one else wanted the Vita that they in Japan wanted? To me, this screams of Sony panicking about the Nintendo switch sales and after much in fighting in the company releasing a product for that that's too little too late.

[@fattiger6957]

Japan did buy a disproportionate amount of Vitas. I think about 1/3 of them were sold in Japan and the most of the support it got (from studios that weren't indie) were mid-level Japanese devs. I don't see this as being a Switch competitor or even planned by Sony to be one. Like Jon said in the video, this is just another PS5 accessory like the duelsense edge or those new headsets. It ain't even in the same tier as the PSVR2.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

Seeing how successful the Switch turned out to be, the abandonment of the Vita was a big mistake on Sony's part. Their shift to the west may be profitable in the short term, but it's putting Sony on a path to follow Sega's footsteps, including its demise as a console manufacturer. Giving too much power to the western division is what's killed off Sega.

[@francissampson]

If this could download games and you could take it on the go, that would have been something worth buying .

[@blackearl7891]

​@@DioBrando-qr6yeSega Japanese division were downright idiotic. It's incredible how the Sega didn't downright fail much earlier considering the shit they pulled.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

@@blackearl7891 the American side of Sega is the side that 1) Sabotaged the Saturn, 2) pushed for the 32X, 3) refused to publish almost any 2D Saturn game ( sabotaging the Saturn again) and the Japanese are the idiotic side. Now , if they're so idiotic, how come that the Saturn was a massive success in Japan? Clearly they were doing something right.

[@TheJuice70]

I have the pulse 3D headset - the fact it’s not usable with the Portal is insane.

[@ShikaTV]

This is crazy

[@pressefr]

I can see in other countries it maybe viable, as in Korea with their hierarchy system, the head of the house controls the remote of the living room TV.

[@Rooster832]

The headphones alone for this thing are 200$ 💀

[@fattiger6957]

I would have preferred the headphones and earbuds to be cheaper, but $200 for headphones and earbuds is not that uncommon nowadays.

[@Rooster832]

@@fattiger6957 I've never paid that much or even come close. I think most people are fine with midrange earbuds. I also don't trust Sony as 3d audio isn't even better than Atmos.

[@crestofhonor2349]

The price for the headphones seems reasonable assuming they are high quality. Won’t compare to the best wired headphones but the price for those honestly aren’t the worst. I feel like the handheld has the worst price

[@Chepakishui]

Portal is just Portable with a couple bits removed such as a b and an e. So this name seems pretty accurate to me.

[@apolopig]

Homebrew vita with moonlight is glorious, I could see this device doing really well for that if it gets modded. It's honestly lacking too many features listed as-is.

[@billy_cross]

For that done whatsoever, they only marked it again would be if you can access the streaming service, but if you can’t do that, why not just open your laptop and do it

[@jaydeebow6431]

You know i hate the whole console war thing,but i honestly can see why Sony fan's stay so mad and toxic,this has to be the most disrespect Jim Ryan has ever shown his own fan's,so now i see why fan's where critical of Xbox and Starfield at Gamescom,but if you guys can see how stupid this looks to people looking from the outside in,critical of Starfield/Xbox but not one video on KZbin with this same criticism about Sony and Spider-man 2 not even showing up...now if you Sony fan's cannot see how ignorant this makes you all look is ...well.

[@dookie_12]

Jim Ryan thinks that old Gran Turismo games suck.

[@1995JediMaster]

I didn't know sony was so interested in free marketing for the Logitech G cloud.

[@fattiger6957]

At the end of the day, people should see this as it is. It isn't a platform like the PSP and Vita were. It is a PS5 accessory, like a duelsense edge or PS headset. That's how people should see it. That's not to say I am satisfied with this thing. I would love Sony to make a Vita successor, but Sony wasn't even thinking of that when they designed this thing.

[@2greenify]

Currently using a Steam Deck for Pc and Xbox games. Works awesome and supports bluetooth headsets, streaming and runs it own ganes as well.

[@ricoxkiller]

This isn't competing with a stream deck. It's a ps5 accessory. Not it's own device.

[@hoggo3789]

How in the world did this thing get so far into production? Or conceptualization even?

[@TheLastLineLive]

Hear me out: Instead of this, PlayStation 4 Portable -Run all your digital PS4 games in a portable form factor. -1080p 60hz display -Bluetooth audio, none of those proprietary crap -Have 500gb onboard storage via an SSD, with microsd slot for expansion -Also have the ability to stream the ps5 stuff if you want to do that, or the other streaming like the ps3 stuff -$399 (or less if they can feasibly do so) This would be a great way to handle this imo. Would extend the life and sales of the ps4 somewhat too.

[@mh22xv]

I think the new psp seems great. Would love to use my PS5 where I want, curl up in bed or on the sofa or out on the balcony and not have to be in front of the tv everytime I want to play games and and still have the exact same ui as the PS5. The bigger screen than my iphone 12pro max that I use with ps remote will also be great. Looking forward to it.

[@MinecraftianFlutterguy]

Why are people calling it a psp? It’s not. It’s just a streaming device

[@Giliver]

You can literally do the exact same thing with your phone, this isn't new at all. Don't waste your money on this junk lol

[@Fidelis1776]

​@@GiliverWhy is it a waste of money if it does exactly what they want it to do?

[@RAHelllord]

​@@GiliverBigger display and better controller, though. No other solution on the market is likely going to feel that nice to hold and use. I won't be getting it since I don't have a PS5, but considering how much I like playing my steam deck or switch on the couch even though I have a nice TV and strong PC I can definitely see why people might want that thing. Just the ability alone to play in a different part of the house can be huge.

[@RAHelllord]

​@@MinecraftianFlutterguy Because the acronym is also PSP. Nobody is going to call it PSPortal or similar.

[@timkeller4967]

I love that eveyone is knocking this thing but out buying a pro controller for $200. Look at it for what it is a controller with a big screen. I get it is not for everyone but I would love to be able to keep playing while someone else wants the tv

[@matthewhardwick8208]

I wonder if they want to create this type of controller for the PS6? And this is just an early test to see how the market reacts to it? Because it clearly looks a bit rushed and under prepared for the streaming future.

[@ryuno2097]

so you want a Wii U for the PS6? 😆

[@matthewhardwick8208]

​@@ryuno2097Not me but Sony? Who knows what they want to do with it ...

[@G360LIVE]

I don't think they'll want to make this a controller for the PS6. It's way too expensive to be a controller. Even Nintendo never sold the Wii U controller separate from the console, because of this reason. More than likely, it's a test for a cloud streaming device.

[@ddnava96]

@@G360LIVE. In Nintendo's case I think it was also because you could connect only one gamepad to the console and selling it separately would make people think you could connect more than one

[@mcpduffs]

Does it even work as a second controller on the PS5 ? So could be a cool second controller

[@mncllama]

I know I’m the minority but I actually like the idea of this. Sure I would prefer a full portable but being able to chill in bed while grinding some of my rpgs from my ps5 in the living room sounds really nice

[@we_thrive]

I agree. I like it too. When it comes to technology, people are a bit weird. I think this thing will do really well..

[@anthonywilkinson4922]

I’m with you, great to play while the big TV has ms Rachel playing for the thousand time for the kids to watch

[@Superboologan1]

But does it sound $200 nice?

[@Giliver]

​@@we_thriveyou people are actually insane You can already do all of this with your phone AND BETTER. Inform yourselves please because it's hurting my head seeing Sony essentially scam people like you.

[@wdf70]

Just spend 100$ more and get a switch for an actual gaming console or better yet, get the Steam Deck and have a handheld that can play games/browse the web/do your taxes/learn linux.

[@nyquilforthekill1620]

There's also no SD card so jailbreak or not the storage on the device will be limited to being able to play new gen games on the device other than being a vita 2.0 for older games.

[@jkromes20]

I think the way they make a handheld work is to have it be digital and cloud stream with your ps6 or whatever. Could sell them as bundles. Make it small like psp. Idk but that’s where I think they should go with it if they do that

[@edisjd]

How far away can you set the screen in the glasses?

[@joel198d]

Can’t wait to see what the homebrew community can do with this

[@acepengu1n355]

They won't be able to do anything as it has no internal storage or firmware on it. You pair it with your ps5 over WiFi and it just moves the game to the portal screen.

[@anthonybf2]

Nothing. This paperweight won't have any internal storage and the CPU/GPU will be just powerful enough to stream but not enough for actual playing games.

[@joel198d]

Oh I didn’t know that, maybe someone will find some unconventional other use for it then like when people were making gbzeros and were using gps screen lcds for parts idk

[@abejavadi235]

Essentially it's a Wii-U gamepad for the PS5. Admittedly my Wii-U library is pretty small. As I don't have any Wii-U games that use that dual screen function, it would be the same experience for me. 🤷

[@bfhandsomeface409]

All the smooth brains keep comparing this to a complete system lol, it’s an accessory NOT a system. Also, the price is not bad at all when you compare it to other streaming only devices. 1080p with an actual decent controller made specifically to work with the PS5 don’t sound bad to me.

[@fattiger6957]

I think people let their wishful thinking get in the way of logic. This thing is what it is, not what most people wanted it to be. It was never advertised as a stand-alone platform, so I don't see the point in getting mad over it. Just don't buy it.

[@bfhandsomeface409]

@@fattiger6957 EXACTLY!

[@crestofhonor2349]

No this is more expensive than other streaming only devices. Other “streaming only” devices ran things like android so you could do more. This seems like it is streaming only or it’s useless. It is absolutely not worth it

[@bfhandsomeface409]

@@crestofhonor2349 Then buy one of those , not sure why you are complaining lol. We don’t even know all the features this thing may have available to it in the future yet. With the 1080p 8 inch screen and controller built in for only $200 it seems like a good deal to me if you fit the use case.

[@RetroMythologist]

Will this thing work outside of the house? Like while on WiFi at work, school, a shopping mall, etc.?

[@5tereo1]

imagine if it could play multiplayer/couch co op but crops the split screen so each player can see fullscreen..

[@numberoneappgames]

They broke a controller in half and smacked a tablet in the middle. :( They should be ashamed of themselves.

[@Coolman13355]

Not even a tablet, just a touch capable display.

[@timothylewis2527]

This video REALLY makes me want to buy a PlayStation Vita!!😮 But i already have one that i haven't touched in close to a decade. Thing looks amazing, still!

[@MCAWESOME19]

You can get a Nintendo Switch Lite for around the same price as the PlayStation Portal, and have a lot more content.

[@gernblanston2652]

Can I play PS5 games on a Switch Lite?

[@Pichuscute]

It's actually typically $25-50 USD cheaper than this thing at this point, lmfao. And it's not that the Switch Lite has a lot more content. It's that it has content at all (before realizing the fact that that content is one of the best gaming libraries of all time, if not the best).

[@SnizelOfficial]

@@gernblanston2652 You can if you hack it.

[@RockstarMazy]

​@@gernblanston2652ha, if you don't already have a ps5, you won't even be playing ps5 games on it. maybe you missed the context of the comment...

[@gernblanston2652]

@RockstarMazy speaking of missing the context of the comment, I have a Switch to play Switch games. I have a PS5 to play PS5 games. If i want to play PS5 games, a Switch aint gonna help with that. The Portal would, though.

[@warawana]

Can anyone confirm what the issue is with the ps portal not being able to take headsets? Wouldnt you just be connecting the headset straight to the ps5 anyway? Cheers

[@mingo82]

While having options is good, using Bluetooth audio for gaming introduces too much lag, So i do understand why Sony have done this. Also its not the same as the Vita as you couldnt really play games without the memory card whereas you still can play the portal without BT

[@fattiger6957]

Depends on the codec. Standard BT sucks big time for gaming. Latency is around 200ms which is very noticeable. But get a headset and transmitter that both have APTX LL or Adaptive and latency drops to 40ms, which is pretty much inperceptible. But you don't see APTX LL on many devices (phones, consoles) because it is proprietary Qualcomm technology. I don't know if it is hardware based or it could be added via firmware updates, but either way device manufacturers would need to pay to use it.

[@Giliver]

No it doesn't, wtf year are you in right now? Get with reality wtf lol

[@gc3k]

I understand the EXCUSE for Vita's proprietary cards. On PSP, 3rd party MSPDs did create an uneven experience during online multiplayer, because one memory stick reads faster or slower than another players. Still, the same can be said for storage on other platforms, some use the latest SSD while others are using an old HDD lying around. It was really an excuse for greed and recouping their R&D costs

[@firepoet6926]

Glorified controller with potential for a mini map in your hands makes sense, just not $150 sense plus audio devices

[@bjnt922]

The only way Sony could make a truly dedicated handheld device would be if it’s made to complement a console device. Something that I believe the PS Portal has the potential to accomplish if they include the ability to stream PS Plus along with games already owned on a PS5.

[@KidVermin]

Is there any benefit the portal has beside maybe comfort over using my ally with chiaki? Does it offer a better connection or streaming over what i have now or no?

[@PNOBinc]

The reason for no Bluetooth is because of the audio lag or delay we get with remote play

[@MadJackChurchill1312]

This makes so much sense as a 100% cloud services controller. It’s low production cost and gets way more people into the PlayStation ecosystem. As a local streaming device, it makes zero sense.

[@Bragg224]

Them glasses look kinda fire !

[@Crispy_Tofu]

So do we know yet if this can be used anywhere with Wi-Fi or does it have to be on the same network as your PS5? There are a ton of conflicting reports online. The PS Blog article only talks about using it at home. No mention of playing it anywhere else.

[@MithosDagon]

The device can be used anywhere there is Wi-Fi. It says so on the official PS page. I believe they are just marketing it as an at home accessory which makes sense

[@MrSharkBait561]

Can't you connect your Bluetooth headphones to your ps5 and then use the remote play on thay PS Portal? I know that it wont work out long distance though