What sort of world do you belong in? Mark Drakeford loses temper with Tories in Senedd

Mark Drakeford, the Labour first minister in Wales, lost his temper on Tuesday when Andrew RT Davies, the Welsh Conservative leader, quoted someone saying that Wales had become a 'third-world country' for healthcare under Labour.
Subscribe to Guardian News on KZbin ► bit.ly/guardian...
Drakeford told Davies: 'It is absolutely shocking to me that you will think that you can turn up here this afternoon with the mess that your party has made to the budgets of this country, to the reputation of this country around the world.'
UK politics news - latest updates ► www.theguardia...
The Guardian publishes independent journalism, made possible by supporters. Contribute to The Guardian today ► bit.ly/3uhA7zg
Sign up to the Guardian's free new daily newsletter, First Edition ► theguardian.com...
Website ► www.theguardia...
Facebook ► / theguardian
Twitter ► / guardian
Instagram ► / guardian
The Guardian on KZbin:
The Guardian ► bit.ly/guardia...
Guardian Australia ► bit.ly/guardia...
Guardian Football ► bit.ly/gdnfoot...
Guardian Sport ► bit.ly/gdnspor...
Guardian Live ► bit.ly/guardia...
#MarkDrakford #Healthcare #Labour #AndrewRTDavies #Conservatives #Wales #Politics

[@guardiannews]

UK politics news - latest updates ► www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/oct/18/liz-truss-mini-budget-cabinet-backfire-conservatives-jeremy-hunt-uk-politics-latest#maincontent

[@BlackGriffin195]

And if there is one rainbow flag on any Welsh hospital site I win my argument

[@charlesbuchan8873]

These vile Tories need to go I can understand how people are angry the Tories only listen to what the rich have to say the couldn't care less about families. Our uk is laughing stock of the world thanks to the disppicable Tory party.

[@1LordBudge]

If you want some spare ambulances Truro hospital has about 20 spares ones parked up all day doing nothing ✌️

[@catmalogen23]

There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.

[@martinmanifold2241]

Anger runs in the family ...drakeford passed it on to his son ....lovely family

[@frankmorgan5845]

@@martinmanifold2241 ridiculous comment.

[@peterjones7303]

Not really the money spent keeping his son in jail could have been used to buy an ambulance I guess it all boils down to priorities Wales it seems does not prioritise the NHS

[@divergentlearners8169]

@@martinmanifold2241 how would that work? The son in question was adopted

[@ashleybirch93]

​@@peterjones7303 the NHS in the whole country is a disgrace at the moment. there's not enough training and funding and a lot of the money the NHS does receive gets wasted.

[@Arwar555]

I love the Welsh accent. Even when angry it still sounds polite.

[@kevinleberger2513]

Mmmm as a Welshman it is the angry Welshwomam you need to fear lol

[@anjidoyle9006]

Oooh yes and add in a splash of Irish too, as in my case and you have a veritable tornado!!! 😂

[@colinb8103]

The Welsh pray on their knees and prey on their neighbours

[@christopher71300]

🤪

[@amelia-lilly657]

Abit like canadians they will Thank you for sleeping with their wife

[@kieranmonk4646]

We need a general election right now

[@afacelessname1378]

It won't change a thing.

[@xRxixcxhxtxexrx]

We do, agreed.

[@xRxixcxhxtxexrx]

It will, we get rid of the trash.

[@michaelgillman2505]

If, as reported, the vast majority of the country wants one and the government wants to refuse purely in their own self interest, all we have to do is say that none of us will go to work until they accede.

[@frank1847]

@@michaelgillman2505 Deal me in Michael. Its the only way mate.

[@wosse666]

its interesting to see how utterly angry he gets when he talks. He is getting angrier and angrier, and almost shakes with anger

[@Ross-p5q]

Find yourself a decent book regarding narcissism you verbally attack a narcissist the result is always the same

[@janetgough6585]

Drakeford didn't lose his temper. Given the egregious hypocrisy of the Tories, he was remarkably calm.

[@andrew3347]

When you only have deflection as your argument, you don’t have an argument…much like mark drakeford, who must certainly lost his temper because he doesn’t like people questioning him.

[@adamcraig1468]

He was literally shaking. Lol unstable wimpy little man

[@mrpopparouni8571]

@@adamcraig1468 Yep. With anger. I can understand that. Oh boy, I can understand that!

[@archieyarr9357]

@@andrew3347 "why are there service issues in your NHS caused by underfunding, understaffing and poor working conditions??" "also we are cutting your budget" can't imagine why that would be frustrating

[@JGS123WRPTP]

@@andrew3347 Must certainly :D

[@wyndgrove9452]

Well said. It's the Tories who have been cutting funding for years, while refusing to get those with the greatest wealth to pay fairly towards shared public services.

[@andrew3347]

And yet drakeford has money for all his pet projects! He has a budget and decides how it’s spent!

[@bampie1]

Wales receives 15% more per head than England in NHS funding. Dripford elected to spend 10% of the annual NHS budget, some £1 billion, on "free" prescriptions that he is using to bribe voters. If the prescriptions were means tested as they are in England £100's of millions would be freed up to increase funding on frontline services. Maybe then the quality of NHS the English experience would also be enjoyed i Wales. Dripford is a disgrace.

[@peterburnett1661]

Please tell us more.

[@vtechead1]

@@andrew3347 Similar to Sturgeon in Scotland, wasting money on failed projects, then bleating they don’t get enough funding. Same old, same old.

[@WalesTheTrueBritons]

And how does that Budget get raised? Do Wales have the same borrowing Powers as England? No! The Senedd was set up to make The Welsh look Enept. Until Media, law and Banking are all devolved. Wales will not be free.

[@TheElDoctoro24]

Dripford

[@primus7776]

Heartfelt emotion, hurt and sincerity from a decent Man Totally wasted on this pitiable excuse of a Tory.

[@neverindoubtjones4789]

​@@Jonnybravo6742 yep. You obviously go for show ponies like Johnson and Truss (probably Farage). All has-beens.

[@primus7776]

@@Jonnybravo6742 Thank You.

[@WELLBRAN]

read up about his adopted son

[@DrMontague]

And Starmer won't cut spending?!

[@anjidoyle9006]

@@primus7776 why are you thanking him? Lol

[@peterkuleczko348]

Nevermind the change to labour, we need a change in the voting system - we need proportional representation!!

[@michaelpattison8543]

We have proportional representation for our Senedd in Wales. It makes for better governance. .

[@peterkuleczko348]

@@michaelpattison8543 the current system is broken. Nobody wants con or lab, they're both corrupt and useless!!

[@michaelpattison8543]

@@peterkuleczko348 We need Independence, Annibyniaeth i Gymru! Independence from the rotting unequal union

[@yamyam2987]

HAHAHAHA LOL

[@ece2178]

@@michaelpattison8543 Do you really think we would survive economically, we are struggling under drakeford as it is

[@iancraig6070]

This is the kind of passion our opposition need to show.

[@Lee69111]

indeed sir

[@innerpeace5913]

I agree. We need proper debates.

[@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333]

Theatre.

[@iancraig6070]

@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Politics,wherever in this world is theatre and lies,no facts.

[@johningram5186]

How does the conservative leader for wales get to demand a road map of health care in wales for the next year. when the prime minister Lizz Truss doesn’t even know how the NHS will be funded to what level next week? He should be apologising to the welsh assembly for the utter carnage of the uk economy that will lead to more deaths and more homeless and people starving and freezing. I’m not surprised the welsh minister was so perplexed.

[@DrMontague]

It what the working class deserve. For decades they have been right wing.

[@nisebiggs6572]

He wrote the speech last month.

[@natenae8635]

Why are you bungling national and devolved politics. What’s the point of devolution if your only go is at Westminster as a deflection from local issues.

[@lm8348]

@@natenae8635 Perhaps if Westminster didn’t chokehold the budgets through their awful fiscal policy, devolved governments might have a chance at sorting out the problem. Conservative approach of strategically underfunding public services to make privatisation seem like the answer is something a lot of people are waking up to, and it’s no wonder it infuriates someone in Drakeford’s position.

[@Charlie-ly9kp]

@@natenae8635 health budgets aren’t a local issue lol 😂

[@techstyle123]

How fast he flipped that page

[@charlesselby3559]

The woman with the black hair behind the speaker smirking and laughing the whole time like its a great bit of entertainment wile we can't afford to put out heating on

[@johncopeland3826]

Liz Truss has still not phoned Mark Drakeford or Nicola Sturgeon ,some 6weeks after taking office ! If that's a United Kingdom ,then it's knackered with a capital F !

[@Time.travelling.beauty]

The emotion of Drakeford voice at the end literally left a lump in my throat

[@andrewelliott4436]

Couldn't swallow it, right?

[@vtechead1]

And left him with wet underwear.

[@cathlaurs9754]

Time•Travelling• Beauty: Me too, I admire him immensely and his passion gives me hope.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

Left a lump in my pants

[@silvercat9155]

The guy is emotionally unstable.

[@TheOrlandoTrustfull]

Thankfully the Tories won't be in power for much longer

[@sambryce321]

Funnily enough they have never in power in the Senedd. They sort of just hang around in the Senedd whining about anything the Labour do.

[@ABOVETOPSECRET1]

Yes be carefull what you wish for

[@Givemepeacealone]

Mate it’s till 2025

[@vtechead1]

Don’t bet on it.

[@aidygooner]

I feel like the Tories are intentionally trying to cause even more damage so that the Labour party have too much to fix

[@jean-lucpicard5510]

Wales has Tory Mps? That's like Turkeys voting for Christmas, I'm surprised England still has Tories.

[@thomasjenkins2555]

Demographic not that different to England and with a lack of Plaid support it’s basically a two-party country. Independence not on the cards, Captain Picard.

[@WalesTheTrueBritons]

Yet over 40% of Labour Memebers and voters in Wales are in support of Independence. Huh…

[@spamme9021]

The only reason the Tories exist is because of England, more specifically, little Englanders

[@neverindoubtjones4789]

Independence a matter of time. Once Scotland goes and the English grey vote dies out Wales will follow.

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

Over here, in the small country that is England, there's about 20 million people that are yet to realise they live in a small country.

[@Helen-nl9lv]

Excellent. How dare a Truss supporter spout ......!

[@cathlaurs9754]

What a louse Davies is. I WHOLLY support Drakeford's anger and words. He speaks for me ✊

[@lukesmith8651]

he was out of order should be sacked

[@robertevans8010]

I know Mr Davies he is as Friendly as a Skunk in the Bath

[@vtechead1]

He needs to control himself, job must be getting to him. Time to go.

[@pauldavies7251]

@@vtechead1 should have gone long ago Absolutely useless

[@hugodrax71]

Actually the NHS in Wales has been a disgrace for years. Well before this present crisis. It's a real sore point for Drakeford which is why he had his little outburst.

[@propergander1162]

The bear can only dance to the length of its chain 🤔

[@HShango]

That was the first time I've seen a welsh First Minister loose his composure a bit. Tories have no moral leg to stand on.

[@pn2360]

Even then it barely sounds like he's raising his voice that much. Must just be the Welsh accent though lol

[@BertBobRobert]

Loose?

[@HShango]

@@pn2360 true

[@liamjones9115]

Loose?

[@Ross-p5q]

Neither does the labour minister I have just posted a little experiment that I did it may be a couple of posts back from this one trade out yourself it's not rocket science I wish I had some scientific instruments to do this but I'm sure there's somebody out there has got this sort of equipment and can prove the point personally you don't need scientific instruments the results are conclusive

[@berniethebolt3007]

The lack of Mr Davies' recognition (let alone apology) for the fact that his party just trashed Britain is staggering. Mr Drakeford's response was entirely appropriate and heartfelt. He was representing the people of Wales. History will one day notice that Mr Drakeford has been a great leader and a great Welshman.

[@andrew3347]

Worst leader wales has had. He is never accountable for his failings and his only response is to throw a tantrum like a spoilt child, it’s not the first time either. Any time anyone dares criticise him he blows his lid, it shows what a snivelling weasel and a pathetic man he is! Try actually living in wales and then you’ll change your mind!

[@anjidoyle9006]

Only a Tory and his/her acolytes would have the brass neck to continue behaving so arrogantly and self righteously in the face of complete disaster.

[@andrew3347]

@@anjidoyle9006 and yet it is welsh labour acting so arrogantly as they have done for the 23 years! Wasting money at every opportunity!

[@drizzle952]

Drakeford is a prize fool.

[@vikingsmb]

in your dreams, he is a massive prat, even labour voters dont like him.

[@66Revolution]

As always, Mr Drakeford deflects the issue and fails to address anything whatsoever

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

He needs booting out.

[@nigelrequiem]

That civilized Gentlemen was angry and rightly so!

[@richardshelton6039]

RT looks like he will need an ambulance soon if his head goes a deeper shade of purple

[@joannewaters1966]

😂

[@MrOlympuse410]

for those lacking context: Wales has a devolved goverment which has seen Labour in control for a long time. The Tory is accusing labour of cutting NHS Wales funding and running it poorly. However, the amount of funding the Welsh devolved government gets is determined by the government in Westminster, controlled by the Tory party, who have cut Wales budget and ran with all these insane financial policies in recent weeks. He's calling out the hypocrisy that the man criticising him is representing a political party that forced NHS cuts and near bankrupted the entire UK, and is now accusing him of cutting budgets/running the NHS into the ground

[@user_-qg6yd]

Thank you, it’s much clearer now

[@user-ie3qx6iy3g]

But why then did the Tory guy say that the labour guy voted for the reduced budget for nhs wales

[@MrOlympuse410]

@@user-ie3qx6iy3g because the total funding they got from the UK government was reduced - most things got cuts. He's slamming the first minister for being forced to vote for something by the tories' cuts

[@donmah06]

FM Drakeford does also actually answer Davies' questions btw, it's been cut out here for brevity I suppose. If someone's interested in his answers about what the Welsh govt will do regarding the Ambulance waiting times, he lists several things, the version of this video posted by the JoePolitics channel didn't cut it out

[@marklewis7484]

The PoliticsJoe vid also had no answers and no plan.

[@TimHall-Smith]

Drakeford does not answer any questions, 23 years of failure, under Welsh Labour - keep on mind Welsh Labour and UK Labour are two very different animals.

[@howareyou857]

​@@TimHall-Smith have you looked at the Barnett Formula and what it means for Wales

[@neverindoubtjones4789]

​@@howareyou857 no, he reads the Daily Express/ Mail headlines.

[@tangaz5819]

@@neverindoubtjones4789 And it really shows. The ignorance of the population reading those rags.

[@pauldavies3764]

Mr Slow could have put 33million into Wales NHS instead of 20mph road signs.

[@andrewmaccallum2367]

2 simple rules for life; No.1 - Never trust a tory No.2 - Never forget rule number 1

[@yamyam2987]

HAHAHAHAHA LOL

[@stephenparslow8535]

Rule No.3, if Labour get into government in England, jump in a used Dinghy at Dover and head to France lol

[@chance258]

@@stephenparslow8535 ?

[@stephenparslow8535]

@@chance258 basically, get the f-k out lol

[@paulgibbon5991]

@@stephenparslow8535 Which policy do you disagree with? Or do you just need to unplug from the Daily Mail?

[@johnpearson-phillips7464]

The voice of decency, kindness and moral fortitude in the face of Tory mendacity, duplicity and utter corruption.

[@wendynicholss6886]

I thought Labour were in charge of health in Wales🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@hugodrax71]

+john pearson-phillips You've got a short memory. Drakeford during the covid era?

[@theresoluteone]

@@wendynicholss6886 Westminster allocates all funding to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland assemblies manage where it's used, instead of Westminster. All 3 get decidely less money than England, but Englands NHS is in the worst shape of all. Yet Labour is at fault for the last 12 years of underfunding from Westminster?

[@DrMontague]

The working class support it!

[@devasurfer]

Well said!

[@alistairmacrae4870]

The Tories do not take responsibility for allowing the UK to be in the worst situation for many years. If these MPs became self employed, they would be on the dole in weeks, unless of course you were millionaires & really don't give a rats behind about the common man/woman

[@alexander92179]

Which most are irrespective of party.

[@barrywebber100]

The blatant hypocrisy of the Brexit Tories is sickening. Well done Mark Drakeford.

[@janereacher3069]

NHS wales is devolved to the Sennedd. Labour has been in charge there for 20+ years. NHS Wales has nothing to do with Westminster. Ask Drakeford why he spent £4:25 million pounds of our money on Gilstone farm because he refuses to say

[@donaldv13]

Brexit tories? The Welsh voted for Brexit too. They actually sided with the tories. Now they are reaping what they sowed.

[@janereacher3069]

@@donaldv13 The state of the Welsh NHS is everything to do with the incompetence of the Labour Party as it’s a devolved issue.

[@pietukiiskinen2403]

@@janereacher3069 the welsh government gets it's money from the broader UK government, it's affected by measures such as austerity. wales already spends more of it's budget on healthcare than england

[@adamcraig1468]

Drakeford no chin shaking like a hysterical woman lol

[@beatpeace879]

It’s shocking that tories are blaming labour for their mess in wales

[@JamesSmith-cx4pw]

The NHS in Wales is a devolved issue. The Labour Party have full responsibility for the NHS. They have completely run it into the ground. Drakeford and his party are turning Wales into a third world nation.

[@garethwilliams2058]

because RT Davies is correct Wales is governed by labour

[@pStar58]

@@garethwilliams2058 but underfunded as it has to get money from the gov lol which I’d try hence you only ever see projects in tory places

[@andrew3347]

@@pStar58 except for the pet projects drakeford has money for that don’t be fit wales. He’s sooooo underfunded but manages to do those “important” things.

[@boahnation9932]

@@garethwilliams2058 you do realise that budgets are set by the government in England, right? The government in Wales only deals with what they're given. By the Tories!

[@cyberpsychosis5367]

Deny and subvert. Typical strategy.

[@krisedu2000]

his hands speak a thousand words

[@damianw5861]

Thats how a gentleman shows his anger

[@lurkinnnhornet6521]

“sToP PoInTiNg” says a woman 😂

[@ItsMeBenson]

The amount of blood in that tory’s face is worrying. He was blacker than me by the end of this vid, and I’m half Jamaican

[@wilmaflinstone7650]

Bestrb Too 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣

[@MrBurtonshaw]

No, the tory is half farmyard animal.

[@anjidoyle9006]

Love it!!!!

[@patrickhoneyman9019]

Perhaps he could use the NHS to arrange an appointment to have his blood pressure checked (one would assume it is already quite high). I imagine he will pay for private healthcare though given the want for quick treatment and low wait times. Did I just suggest that the Conservative leader may use healthcare services that are nothing to do with what he is passionately talking about in the above video? Surely not ; )

[@BossySwan]

Drippy Drakeford

[@Davidg65]

Be afraid of the quiet man

[@nviscalling5752]

We need this anger, great fury to strike down the tories

[@daylight44ful]

If That Tory MP keeps anyonning the old man he might be going home in an Ambulance lol

[@Drizzle600]

Drakeford is a despicable human being!!!!

[@raycummings1309]

These tories cant remember they hold the purse strings.

[@grahamjpjones]

Typical Dickford denying any responsibility for his party's incompetence and blaming anyone else but himself, Welsh Labour have run the Health Service for 23 years, its their responsibility to allocate funds to the verious departments withing Wales, not Westminster. He is ultimately responsible for the actions of HIS government. He is responsible for the Health Service fiasco within Wales, not Westminster. If Dickford cant take the criticism and cant take responsibility then he should step down and trigger an election so the whole of Wales can decide who is more competent.

[@a.rentertainment2232]

Wales has the sheep. Well one things for sure, Wales has a ram for a FM. Make rams angry and you get bonked by its horns. Class! 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Oh please...

[@agt155]

Drakeford is a pathetic little man.

[@paulodefreitas9632]

@@agt155 and you are?????

[@zakk7930]

Get the tories OUT!!!!!

[@jds3185]

It is at 3:48 when the Drakeford puts the tories in their place lol

[@samueljones237]

Just pure Deflection from Drakeford.

[@engledelaffety4380]

welsh has a wonderful accent, like singing.

[@JDMJOE]

Drakeford...... what a horrible little man he is.

[@nuthstar6575]

A new beginning is coming for the UK, we need labour to take back control for the people of this country, the working class. BRING IT HOME 💪

[@agt155]

Yes rich Liberals in Islington are the saviour of the working class.

[@vinceellis9621]

A typical post by a brain dead zombie, both Labour and Conservatives are past their 'sell by date'

[@bg1616]

@Sonification Won't make any difference. They all get in fresh-faced (somehow) and gradually build up their sins with the public until they're a total mess. Anyone 40+ can see the repetition clearly

[@pauldavies7251]

Yes because last time they were in power that ended really well didn't it 🤣🤡

[@Althemusicman1]

@@bg1616 Absolutely spot on...👏

[@NoelleObcarskas]

Brilliant

[@iaf010]

To quote his Majesty - "Oh Dear oh dear".

[@helengilry1050]

Hear! Hear! Drakeford!👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@agt155]

He's a **** and his party have ruined Wales.

[@storms9023]

Drakeford is usually so calm. He was absolutely furious.

[@alexander92179]

This isn't the first time he's flipped out. In a debate like this it's kinda understandable as things tend to get heated, but I have seen him do it when confronted by the public on the street.

[@alexander92179]

@@barbararice6650 tell me more. I didn't even know he had one..

[@alexander92179]

@@barbararice6650 yeah just saw. The vile monster.

[@alexander92179]

@@barbararice6650 indeed

[@AdamNoizer]

Drakeford is 100% right. Tories proposing "solutions" for problems that stem directly from their own policies.

[@alisonbongo3287]

A mild gentle man saying how we all feel!

[@alexander92179]

You have a messed up definition of gentle. This isn't the first time either.

[@peninsulageneralgoodsstore]

Drakeford should resign. Culture over reality has put us here. The long march must be stopped!

[@barneypaws4883]

How dare the Welsh Tories bring up the name of the great Aneurin Bevan. HE would be turning in his grave at way the Tories have treated the NHS as a whole in the UK. Well done Mark Drakeford

[@drparnassus2867]

Sadly we have the Gammonati in Wales as well.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Brilliant Video

[@mumtazhussain9976]

Well done first minister.

[@susandonnarumma9763]

Bless him 🙏!

[@bampitony6108]

Defund Welsh Labour and scrap the Welsh Assembly ASAP.. 😎

[@01karmacop]

From the heart beautiful

[@andrew3347]

Drakeford has no heart, just a black shrivelled up brick

[@jimkhana007]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@daveroe1241]

Wait till ambulance's are stuck behind 20mph speed limits on narrow country lanes?

[@daffyddduck2419]

Deflection deflection deflection that’s unaccountable Drakeford

[@ferret31]

Unbelievable

[@kennygreen2795]

Go on Mark

[@David-wj9ok]

R T Davies destroyed Drakeford, time to step down First Minister, you're making a fool of yourself.

[@joannewaters1966]

R T Davies doesnt have the intelligence fo destroy anyone. He can't even string a sentence together without sounding like a 5 year old trying to read out loud

[@oldguy2976]

My fear is that there is no one in politics today who can actually deal with the situation we are in …. We are doomed

[@liam77877]

Give Labour a chance then..

[@garythompson9452]

It's a genuine fear. Smart people are not in politics. This situation we are in will only be solved by the smartest minds. I really fear for our country.

[@Hundeputzmunter]

Despair is the greatest weapon of those in power. Never despair when things go wrong my friend, instead demand accountability and change

[@alexander92179]

@@liam77877 they already had the chance. Things really didn't get better.

[@alexander92179]

Certainly not in Westminster.

[@windymiller6908]

As much as I hate to say it as I'm anti-tory to the hilt, but Labour did cut the health budget back when spending cuts were first introduced by the tory government. Instead of ring fencing the NHS like England did, Wales decided to go for protecting council budgets thus preventing any council tax rise. A big mistake in my opinion.and there's no denying that the party leader for the tories has a valid point when he accuses Mark Drakeford of voting for cuts to the Health Service.

[@MrBurtonshaw]

there are social/health responsibilities that "councils" have to provide, by law...

[@Elleliza3501]

Ring fencing the NHS is a better bet than councils, because like in England, the health responsibilities of councils gets absorbed into the NHS out of necessity, and though care variation occurs, the NHS health platform is more powerful than the councils. I'm kind of fed up with Labour deflecting rather than being honest about the decisions made. And care quality has nothing to do with money - there was a health worker somewhere in 15hrs - that crosses two shifts! The culture in Wales must have become appalling under the cuts, and it was up to him as Health Minister to influence where he can.

[@alexander92179]

Just one example of why the established parties need to be ditched.

[@davidb6681]

The responsibility lies where the responsibility lies? Who’s in charge?

[@MikeJRe2ipi]

The way it's going I wouldn't be surprised to see Tories charging people to see their GP or to stay overnight in hospital. They'll want people not to bother phoning for an ambulance.

[@kittys179]

Tories want the national health service to become privatised like in America. If they keep underfunding it and therefore making it harder for the services to run and catch up with long waits then they are making the case to their voters to make it private. What the voters don't realise is If we made some pinches towards council funding and thrown way more money to the NHS so they can give higher, more deserving earnings to their staff (encouraging more people to join the industry), buy more specialised equipment and testing then some of these problems wouldn't be in existence next year. If we want free health care, it must be funded properly.

[@moodobusiness]

Haven’t cut it yet so let’s take responsibility for the current service.

[@jameschamberlain5817]

Mark Drakeford made that bubbling buffoon look like a complete and utter waste of time of time and resources then! 😂

[@stevebbuk]

I seem to recall Ann Clwyd unimpressed with the state of the hospitals in Wales several years ago.

[@nigelmoore6519]

The tores line there own pockets 1st

[@kevinwebb6338]

With any luck Drackeford will have a heart attack. When they call the ambulance it'll take hours to get there.

[@reekiereekie7264]

The torys must go

[@rosedavid8188]

Well said Mr. Drakeford - your passion is inspiring

[@keithlawton7821]

Obviously a relative of drakeford

[@mididoctors]

This is getting next levels

[@enzonavona9018]

Such a shame, It's shame Talk Talk

[@stephenbalsdon5275]

Drakeford accuses the tories of cutting the budget to Wales and causing the problems in the health service, but earlier this year handed back £130 odd million of unspent budget. Why on earth didn't he use it ?

[@markoshea6833]

yeah, Drakeford, Wales is listening Why'd you do that?

[@hazeljones4275]

Mark Drakeford i work in the NHS and i command you ! Thank you for your support please look after yourself but your passion then is what we all feel you are as we say in the job of nursing a true gent xx

[@titteryenot4524]

And I commend your ‘command’ of the English language.🥸

[@pauldavies7251]

With all due respect Hazell the Welsh NHS is an absolute mess I take my hat off to all the staff on the front line but the running of it really is an embarrassment, I don't vote for any political party by the way & myself have worked in the NHS recently,

[@stevemac6707]

Command him to do what? Learn how to spell?

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@pauldavies7251 The question is 'why' though. It's not like Wales has much say over the Welsh NHS' budget, and it's entirely possible that the circumstances have been, largely, out of their hands.

[@grahamturner1290]

Well said, Mark. 👍

[@andrew3347]

Yes! Well done for showing everyone what a vile man who doesn’t like being questioned you are!

[@grahamturner1290]

@@andrew3347 hey, incel troll. How's every little thing?

[@andrew3347]

@@grahamturner1290 incel troll? I don’t think so sweetheart. If you don’t like hearing people talking badly about your pal drakeford, I suggest you get off the internet! As for the random ad hominem, it speaks a lot more about your rationality and ability to actually make any kind of point.

[@grahamturner1290]

@@andrew3347 😂 triggered. 😊

[@andrew3347]

@@grahamturner1290 no argument 😂😂😂

[@silverslims95]

Whether you support labour, tory, green, or absolutely nothing, it's going to be a scary winter to say the least. We as a country are on the precipice of civil unrest at a VERY bad time.

[@kittys179]

This is the truest thing I have read in this comment section. They all judge everyone else's political leaders but neglect to realise how tough this winter is going to be.

[@LOTPOR0402]

They are all as bad as each other ,all mouth no action unless taxation is going up or bringing in things people don't want

[@jrobs1133]

Mark Drakeford making a lot of noise to distract from his responsibility. The Labour run NHS.

[@vitocorleone7040]

Well said Mark 👏

[@yamyam2987]

HAHAHAHA LOL

[@alexander92179]

😂😂

[@CTJ893]

When does drakeford go back to being a no one again

[@Mike20216]

The cheek of this joker quoting nye Bevan, Mild mannered mark Absolutely destroyed him

[@Pauline-wu4ej]

Oh really, Wales has the worst Nhs service? At least they don't have to pay hospital parking fees and pay for eye tests, and pay for dental check ups over 60, and pay for prescritions like we do in England. I think the poor in England are treated far worse.

[@gazfisher7391]

"..no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory party that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned, they are lower than vermin.” Aneurin (Nye) Bevan, 1948

[@alexander92179]

How times have changed.

[@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699]

Proper tory gas lighting everyone else

[@andrew3347]

And yet the first monster had no response as to what he was going to do to fix it! Just deflect! He has money for pet projects somehow

[@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699]

@@andrew3347 🤣could have done a lot with the £60 billion in extra interest Truss has caused glad your happy to pay it 👍

[@andrew3347]

@@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699 and he managed to squander his budget. Drakeford is to blame here. You’re defending his indefensible actions, what a vile human you must be!

[@Capybarrrraaaa]

@@andrew3347 How was the budget squandered?

[@andrew3347]

@@Capybarrrraaaa it’s easy enough to look up and I’ve mentioned it in comments on this thread.

[@AM-es5up]

Never answers the question…. As slow as his 20mph…..!!

[@clair233]

He had him banged to rights 👏

[@andrew3347]

Yes, rt Davies held drakeford accountable for the first time, and drakeford doesn’t like that.

[@billykotsos4642]

5 hours for an ambulance ? Oh my

[@Knappa22]

Yep. The Tories have slashed the budget to the Senedd meaning that it, like English government cannot fund the NHS properly anymorr

[@rhyslewis599]

Well done Mark Drakeford👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@adamcraig1468]

He was shaking like a hysterical woman the chinless pansy

[@charleswalker7656]

?

[@yamyam2987]

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL

[@mt3776]

For What? He didn’t say what the plan was and just said it’s all the tories fault. I mean change the record and have some accountability for once

[@andrew3347]

@@mt3776 that would be nice wouldn’t it, but we do things differently here in wales

[@catastrophic009]

Drakeford is a disgrace !!..Should be doing his gardening !!

[@dougaldouglas8842]

And not slapping his wife around