What sounds better: cheap cassette vs good cassette vs mp3 file

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@robviso
@robviso 6 жыл бұрын
This was done very nicely. we are listening to this in our masteringstudio in a very well treated room (+ - 1.5 db flat from 32Hz to 1Khz) You can hear clearly how the tape smoothed the midrange compared to the Mp3 + a nice fluffy lowend & a shimmery topend was added by the magnetizing process of the tapedeck combined with the particular chrom tape. Very pleasent and rich to the ear. we also use tapedecks (onkio integra Ta-6711 and nakamichi cr9) for restauration jobs, and people are allways impressed how good tape can sound.
@Hairyderriere
@Hairyderriere 5 жыл бұрын
What's a Nakamichi CR-9? Never seen one of those. No such thing, surely? Seen a CR-7 and a ZX-9. Own a ZX-7 and it's a thing of beauty (and amazing sound).
@AussieTVMusic
@AussieTVMusic 8 жыл бұрын
Was listening to my 30 year old cassettes today. They still sound great.
@acefrehley3797
@acefrehley3797 2 жыл бұрын
IF YOUR TAPES ARE 30 YEARS OLD. YOU NEVER CAN HEAR TE COMPLEAT AUDIO THAT A NEW BORN CAN HEAR. 20 HERTZ. TO 20 KILO HERTZ. AND YOU NEVER CAN GET THE PARTS FROM YOUR ORGINAL DECK. AND PUT A CASSETTE IN A CAR. THE CAR GETS HOT IN THE SUMMER. YOUR TAPE IS NO MORE AS IT WAS.
@sergio-kq1wc
@sergio-kq1wc Жыл бұрын
@@acefrehley3797 ayo chill
@kaznjenik111
@kaznjenik111 6 ай бұрын
@@acefrehley3797 False
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 8 жыл бұрын
I like the way the good tape sounds, it adds something in the sound quality that's not there in the mp3. The mp3 sounded a little flat, and of course the cheap tape did not sound very good at all.
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck 8 жыл бұрын
wow, the mp3 sounds flat and thin, the good cassette has more bass, also the drums sound more natural and real in the good cassette.
@cobiwilliams
@cobiwilliams 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically, KZbin audio is a (fairly poor) mp3 quality
@silvervens
@silvervens 5 жыл бұрын
Mp3 is made of digital bits not like a smooth line of analog
@pavle516
@pavle516 5 жыл бұрын
@@cobiwilliams Well, I hope it's actually AAC, as some site claimed.
@CyrilViXP
@CyrilViXP 4 жыл бұрын
Павле Станковић it’s even worse. The bitrate is 192
@eggshellskullrule7971
@eggshellskullrule7971 4 жыл бұрын
And the mp3 file is 320bps! I always say cassette tapes excel mp3 and certain cd
@shomosnicholas5
@shomosnicholas5 9 жыл бұрын
Good Tape> MP3> Budget Tape
@sportodevy833
@sportodevy833 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Shomos Budget tape like Maxell UR, TDK D, Sony HF etc. recorded in a top cassette deck sounds better than all mp3s. Sure, if you play great quality cassette recorded in a bad quality boombox, mp3 wins..
@Minecraftminer3000
@Minecraftminer3000 8 жыл бұрын
Sony HF is actually a pretty good tape for the price. It sounds nice.
@sportodevy833
@sportodevy833 8 жыл бұрын
you are right, but you can tell difference to chrom tapes
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 7 жыл бұрын
If you look for a good and cheap deck, try with a Denon DRM-700 or a SONY K670...
@HamtaroEL
@HamtaroEL 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Shomos Good tape > Budget tape > MP3
@ntulsian
@ntulsian 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very educational video. I grew up listening to cassettes, records and then CDs. And like many others I never had good tapes and definitely never had a good quality cassette deck. Now that I have them I tried your methodology and lo-and-behold the TDK SA Type2 cassette recorded on a SONY TC-K2A . The results were indeed excellent and since then I've started noticing how none of my MP3s (256-320kbps) are missing most of the highs, no clear cymbals in any of them. The Police songs sound quite dead. I still have to do a test of recording from a vinyl record (like Ghost in the machine) to cassette and play that versus an MP3 of the same song. But I'm confident the cassette will not be lacking. Thanks once again. Neeraj
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 7 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I used to record a lots of stuff to tape back in the 80s to mid-90s. The Maxwell XL-II chrome tape used here was one of the types I used as well. But my favorite brand was TDK. I remember their SA-X tapes where very good. They also had the even better sounding "Metal" tapes. But those where rather expensive. The SA and SA-X tapes where better value for money.
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, loved TDK SA-X tapes on my Aiwa F770. Could barely tell the difference between the cassette with Dolby C and the original CD. They still sound brilliant now, although the casssette deck will now only record one channel, playback is still fantastic quality and the TDK SAX tapes haven't lost any of the sound they were recorded with.
@freeecountryy
@freeecountryy 8 жыл бұрын
That era of Maxell XLII is my favorite. Look at that design.
@olaniyi570
@olaniyi570 8 жыл бұрын
J Ribadeneyra Agreed. Mine too
@willparrott100
@willparrott100 7 жыл бұрын
J R Don't know what "Epilaxial" means, but it just sounds good
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. The cassette design of the 80s tapes looked much nicer than the mid-90s versions. Both true for Maxell and TDK tapes and probably other brands as well.
@lesrogers7310
@lesrogers7310 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think Maxell did either!
@nikolamijic
@nikolamijic 6 жыл бұрын
Audio Porn at its best!
@Hordes_Of_Nebulah
@Hordes_Of_Nebulah 8 жыл бұрын
I've always maintained the opinion that most people who think cassettes sound bad were never using decent equipment in the first place. Good recordings on a quality cassette played through a higher end cassette deck will always sound better than even the best mp3. Tapes have no compression and can support a greater dynamic range than a mp3. Now if you are listening to a song copied off the radio onto a type I cassette on a $5 walkman it won't sound good and that is what I think a lot of people associate with cassettes and forget that it is a hi-fi format. When it comes to digital I mostly use FLAC and only use mp3 when I absolutely have to such as downloads to back up vinyl and tapes since I don't have the equipment to back them up myself.
@DOSORDIE
@DOSORDIE 3 ай бұрын
Tapes have a compression because they have a saturation that has a similar effect like a dynamic compressor. The higher the Recording Level is the harder the saturation is noticeable. Also it has different saturation effects in Highs, Mids and Lows. It depends on the Tape and the music you record. On high level recordings the highs will fall down first but if the Bass is too hard it is possible that it oversaturates and distorts before you notice the falldown of the highs. It also has a limited dynamic range. It's quite good for analog and a good Type II tape can reach around 65 dB without Dolby NR. With Dolby B it reaches 75 dB. Better Type I tapes are around 55-57 dB. It's enough for the most stuff. So yeah Tapes can sound very good and close to the original but mp3 has no limitations beside the data compression and the known artifacts. Dynamics and Frequency response are as high as the original so it depends on sampling rate and depth. Of course you can like the sound of the cassette more, because it adds artifacts to the music which can make it sound subjective better, but objective and technically it's never as good as digital (of course if we talk about higher bitrates, not Voice Mailboxes from the 90s). The mp3 doesn't sound noticeable different to the original if you use a good mp3 Encoder while the tape does. Especially Vinyl is the worst media ever technically and it still can sound great but in specs it loose against tape and digital.
@victoreboli211
@victoreboli211 4 жыл бұрын
The cassette recording on the deck feels "warmer" and more lively
@LuisRomanDonizAbrante
@LuisRomanDonizAbrante 8 жыл бұрын
Good JOB Hugo The Tape foreveeeeeeeerrrrrrr
@ricknelsonm
@ricknelsonm 7 жыл бұрын
The CASSETTE SOUNDS SUPERIOR,
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 5 жыл бұрын
Cassettes are superior than mp3 indeed
@watsonanthony8438
@watsonanthony8438 4 жыл бұрын
@@Badassvidsz exactly. Especially with a good stereo. The hiss makes it sound live
@happydappyman
@happydappyman 8 жыл бұрын
wow the difference is really huge between the cheap and expensive player. There's probably a noticeable difference between mp3 and cassette but we'll never know listening through youtube lol. Oh, I see you provided a lossless version thanks!
@MrTruth111
@MrTruth111 8 жыл бұрын
The sad part is that you cannot hear analogue tape through the mpeg layers of youtube...
@MikeMintTV
@MikeMintTV 8 жыл бұрын
true but funny thing is even with that in mind, you can tell the difference!
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 8 жыл бұрын
Have you read the entire description? There is an available download...
@enigmasenlahistoriaOA
@enigmasenlahistoriaOA 7 жыл бұрын
I do not even think it's the original audio of the cassette, the mp3 if it is, the bombox is not, nothing to rescue here
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 7 жыл бұрын
OVNIS ACTUALES ▬ Enigmas de La Historia interesting. Why do you think that?
@ovnisactualesenigmas95
@ovnisactualesenigmas95 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it's what I think, as the previous partner says, it is difficult to hear the true audio of a cassette with the conversions of youtube and that is why I say there is not much to rescue, it is not fair for cuality a cassette, Anyway, I congratulate you on your video. greetings
@patriayvida4209
@patriayvida4209 8 жыл бұрын
Wow man! Congrats! I love your hobby which used to be my favorite back in my country. Unfortunately I had to get rid of everything to make it here. Stay blessed and enjoy it bro!
@FoolishFlock
@FoolishFlock 7 жыл бұрын
you know that the difference hit me like a hammer! ; )
@MrPitatom
@MrPitatom 8 жыл бұрын
Cassette always wins for me. Good video.
@dennisshia9269
@dennisshia9269 3 жыл бұрын
For the Cheap Walkman Part, hopefully you can adjust the head to make clearer sound.
@1sonyzz
@1sonyzz 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you shinning some light to folks who think that 80's medium sound was bad just because they could not afford good walkman or deck player and had cheap boombox or fake good brand product to begin with
@merak6395
@merak6395 6 жыл бұрын
Iam 21 years old and my ears are not familiarized with this quality of sound i really like it
@armin6242
@armin6242 5 жыл бұрын
Just compare the high-end tape here with a Max quality Spotify version of the song (love Huey's work), couldn't find a difference through my Sennheiser's. Tapes are highly underrated
@ericochoa4034
@ericochoa4034 5 жыл бұрын
They just got a bad rap but when recorded right they can sound just as good or better than any other analog format! There should have been a cassette revival instead of vinyl. Cassettes are just way cooler in my opinion!
@MikeMintTV
@MikeMintTV 8 жыл бұрын
geez as an audio engineer this made me realize how tinny and bad MP3 is..
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 7 жыл бұрын
It's the reason why people go back to vinyl and some to reel2reel or good tape. Sure, those could degrade with time but when you'd treat them with care and play them on good equipment that's equally treated well (cleaned/maintained) than you can enjoy those old formats for a long time.
@andreashoppe1969
@andreashoppe1969 7 жыл бұрын
And spotify doesn't even stream MP3, but even cheaper sound quality. So sad :/
@DJPenguino51
@DJPenguino51 7 жыл бұрын
Mp3 has that what I call "shiny" or "swimmy" sounding top end. It's fine for playing back in a vehicle but when I want to listen to something with a good pair of headphones on, mp3 doesn't cut it. Not even the 320 kb/s setting. AAC is a bit better but not by much. FLAC is definitely much better since it's lossless. Also on satellite television, the [compressed] audio has that same annoying "swimmy" sound. Extremely sibilant with the SSS sound being very pronounced. I can be in another room and I hear SS SS S...S...SS.....S. SSSo annoying!
@HASHEAVEN
@HASHEAVEN 7 жыл бұрын
If u want to upgrade from Mp3 go to flacs or hi rez. vinyl is pointless since it's created from digital recordings nowm so you only add to the sound the bias and distortion of the vinyl and equipment... and cassettes are the worst format possible, going back to them is devolution! you liked the sound better because it adds harmonic distortion, has less dynamic range, cuts high frequencies and thus sounds warmer... Even mp3 sounds better than cassettes as long as you don't listen to it from a crappy soundcard or a bad player....
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 7 жыл бұрын
Cassette also sounds better if not through a crappy player or recorded on bad equipment. Also the recording medium improves the quality a lot, and than I mean the tape type. Also there is another thing that people that record instruments don't realize it seems. While good MP3 or even Lossless is superior to analog in terms of noise floor, the way instruments are recorded results in undesired high frequency noise. For instance when mounting microphones directly onto brass instruments, the vibration of the instrument itself will also cause vibrations of the microphone's membrane. This direct way of instrument recording is thus recording high frequency noise that otherwise wouldn't be audible to an audience when they are listening to a live orchestra performance. Which depending on the acoustic of the hall they are in will give an even more warmer or colder effect. What I am getting at is that while digital might be superior, analog removes the undesired noise and creates a warmer tone upon playback that doesn't tire a person when he's listening to it. So while not perfect this benefit of analog is what makes analog more desirable for listening to than digital, cause everyone wants a nice relaxing listening experience and not a high strung one due to high frequency noise that the brain has to filter out.
@RBtutoriais
@RBtutoriais 7 жыл бұрын
This is the exact comparison that i have been searched for. Thank you so much!
@eudatux23
@eudatux23 5 жыл бұрын
The Maxell XLII sounds so perfect! I also really like Sony UX-S. I'm using a Onkyo Integra TA-2870. I also record on Reel-To-Reel quite often and got wonderful sound there using RTM LPR35 tape and my Revox B77 :)
@HamtaroEL
@HamtaroEL 5 жыл бұрын
The boombox might also have ALC which reduce loud passages and increase soft passages squishing the dynamic range. That's why it's good to get boomboxes from the late 70's early provided they are good in the first place if they have manual record levels, separate left and right channels if possible.
@nashvilleboy3163
@nashvilleboy3163 6 жыл бұрын
Funny how all 3 have been digitized for us to listen to the difference. LOL It's like judging the feel of a car by watching it next to you from another car.
@FrightfulAccountant
@FrightfulAccountant 5 жыл бұрын
Most people in the 80s had no money for expensive hifi sets with high end cassette decks. If they were lucky they could save up some money for an entry level Pioneer of Technics rack set, but most often it was the boombox that recorded on tape from a FM radio station onto a cheap cassette. A standerd 128 -256k mp3 will indeed sound cold, harsh and flat, but for people that can't afford much, this is quite a lot..
@tanner-rh6oo
@tanner-rh6oo 7 жыл бұрын
When doing these types of demonstrations, it is very important to "LEVEL MATCH" because I noticed that the level on the walkman way LOUDER in volume compared to the mp3. People will assume that LOUDER IS BETTER.....
@davidrapalyea7727
@davidrapalyea7727 5 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating demonstration! I have been an audiophile my entire life. For instance, back in the 1980s I only bought expensive half speed re-mastered vinyl. I then recorded those onto a high quality cassette. But I never was able to do a good A/B comparison of those formats and MP3. I suspected MP3 would be a little bit thinner and this seems to show that. Internet radio is another matter. For instance, I do not know what classical stations use as their source format. I doubt any of the use actual modern audiophile vinyl. I can hear the difference, however between 128kb and 320kb. BBC apparently has one channel dedicated to lossless FLAK and I might look into it.
@LostForWords
@LostForWords 6 жыл бұрын
The good tape / tape deck has a lovely warmth that the sterile, digital mp3 doesn't. Great comparison.
@berndp3426
@berndp3426 5 жыл бұрын
Decent tape material is always recommended for a tape recorder (and especially one which is best-fit from the settings being made for the tape type in a certain recorder - except if a recorder allows additional BIAS fine-tuning for a given tape, then a more wide variety of tapes can be used). I go for superchrome or metal type. From the mp3 standpoint: 320k is good and can be called "HI-FI". 128k or less is not really.
@ThisGuyFrritz
@ThisGuyFrritz 8 жыл бұрын
That's why I would rather buy the physical media like vinyl and audio CDs. Same with DVDs and Blu-rays because they have more MBPS than the compressed streaming video.
@thatsentertainment5602
@thatsentertainment5602 Жыл бұрын
Would a 3 head tape deck be better in sound quality then a 2 head deck?
@User-jk8wq
@User-jk8wq 6 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting such a noticeable difference between the tape and CD! All the warmth just disappeared!
@RestorationAustralia
@RestorationAustralia 4 жыл бұрын
Good old days.
@Cesarsound1
@Cesarsound1 5 жыл бұрын
The MP3 recording was applied wide stereo image, that is why it sounds thin.
@scaleop4
@scaleop4 6 жыл бұрын
if you have a good cassette deck with manual bias setting you can get allmost any cassette to sounds decent. i have a yamaha ks-650 and its one of the best decks i have ever owned recording and playback wise.
@HamtaroEL
@HamtaroEL 8 ай бұрын
The older 80s boomboxes provided its the top of the line had decent cassette decks that have manual record level control which make them behave like standalone cassette decks in their functions.
@TommioRS
@TommioRS 9 ай бұрын
Im blown away at the cassette deck and its quality!
@djonevibe
@djonevibe 3 ай бұрын
This is a super video, good way to compare sounds and audio gear, and the only one.
@MrFIORITOR
@MrFIORITOR 7 жыл бұрын
Digital recordings and players are substandard. The second device was obviously the real deal as all the chords are loud and clear. The first player the chords start loud but are quickly muffled, esp. by the drums, same as the MP3. Thank you for the good video.
@tommoyk4294
@tommoyk4294 3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the cassette in a good recorder more than the mp3. Sounds richer, less flat.
@expgretaillegacy
@expgretaillegacy 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Jordan-fn5rj
@Jordan-fn5rj Жыл бұрын
you like to hear the hiss and the pop and the high end distortion in audio cassette tapes you think that is good sound of the audio cassette tapes!?
@DANIELTHIBAULTchannel
@DANIELTHIBAULTchannel 7 жыл бұрын
xl II one of the best tape! maxell and tdk all the way! cr02
@cuedotfilms4427
@cuedotfilms4427 4 жыл бұрын
I love that player, you can see all of the cassette as it's playing. That is so cool.
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 4 жыл бұрын
I've always loved maxell. They had a good smell, cruel good sound, look etc.
@flappymlg3607
@flappymlg3607 6 жыл бұрын
The walkman sounds amazing!
@SmokeyBluntRoach
@SmokeyBluntRoach 8 жыл бұрын
mp3s have always sounded flat to me.
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 5 жыл бұрын
@@filosofen647 Ahahahahaha
@sawajiri100
@sawajiri100 7 жыл бұрын
Still cassette are very cool to use and looking beauty
@JoggingOnTheMoon
@JoggingOnTheMoon 8 жыл бұрын
so what was the source from which you recorded the tapes? vinyl or a digital mp3? (forgive me if you wrote it somewhere and I completely missed it.) the maxell XLII tape does sound quite a bit richer than the mp3 - noticeably fuller bass & crisper high-end.
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 8 жыл бұрын
+JoggingOnTheMoon The source was a CD. I'd like to use vinyl as source but I didn't have that album. Now I have it...
@JacobFrey
@JacobFrey 8 жыл бұрын
Nice edit. Thanks for sharing these results. Love that song!
@pcorf
@pcorf 3 жыл бұрын
That Maxell is awesome. One of the greatest cassette manufacturers for sure.
@craigdavidson2278
@craigdavidson2278 4 жыл бұрын
Dolby S on a Sony metal master is the pinnacle for the cassette deck sound quality.
@MGOFor3ver
@MGOFor3ver 6 жыл бұрын
What I was looking for. Thanks!
@zulumax1
@zulumax1 4 жыл бұрын
What bit rate of MP3? Dolby B off or on? What kind of boom box, a $60 one or a $400 one? Not enough information to make any kind of comparison. I have a collection of tape decks including the Pioneer CT-F1250 you show here and the Nakamichi Dragon. I also have a Panasonic RX-5250 boom box which has a tape transport that has excellent specs rivaling high end tape decks.
@thememorylanechannel
@thememorylanechannel 9 жыл бұрын
What is the model of that "good deck" you're using? I would love to get myself one of those.
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 9 жыл бұрын
+thememorylanechannel Yes, it's a Pioneer CT-F1250. You can read more about my deck in this post of my blog: www.walkman-archive.com/wa/2015/09/my-pioneer-ct-f1250-restored-and-upgraded-by-a-n-t-audio/
@themeantuber
@themeantuber 4 жыл бұрын
Even though KZbin the good deck sound sounds richer! Love it!
@rajeshkumar-de9he
@rajeshkumar-de9he 8 жыл бұрын
i prefer well recorded tape...mp3 sounds thin not have good tonal balance as tape...
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 5 жыл бұрын
@@filosofen647 The same old song & dance in all of your comments : I bet you've never had a good deck in your life to listen and judge I even doubt if you ever had a cassette deck in your life maybe ? some crappy boomboxes recording from fm radio stations crappy sound quality .
@UrOpinionsSucc
@UrOpinionsSucc 4 жыл бұрын
@@norwayphilosopher false.
@stephendobbins9316
@stephendobbins9316 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! I heard the difference when you went from mp3 to cassette on the large deck. It sounded like it went from 16 bit 44100 khz to 32 bit 192 khz. To me the cassette sounded better and sounded like it was enhanced with just a little better treble and and a bit more quality in the bass. With headphones on, and I mean a really good pair of quality headphones you can hear the difference. Not much, but enough to make an excellent point. But it depends on how worn the tape is.
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 9 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Dobbins Totally agree.
@Inaflap
@Inaflap 9 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Dobbins You mean 44100 Hz don't you... or 44.1 kHz.
@MkdrNet
@MkdrNet 7 жыл бұрын
Ah still these misconceptions of digital resolution and it's effect on sound quality. The reason the cassette sounds better is because it's adding compression and distortion to the sound. It's making it technically worse, but more pleasing to the ear.
@richardcrook2112
@richardcrook2112 Жыл бұрын
The cassette sounded more bassy and better to me.
@TravelandAudio
@TravelandAudio 5 жыл бұрын
If this high quality cassette sounds this good, just imagine how it would sound on a high quality reel to reel like a Pioneer RT-707(or RT-909), Revox B77 or even more a Tandberg TD-20A SE would sound like!!
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 5 жыл бұрын
My RT-909 sounds gorgeous...
@TravelandAudio
@TravelandAudio 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheWalkmanArchive I agree, it has the same sound signature of the RT-707. Pioneers are built like a tank!
@martyjewell5683
@martyjewell5683 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this video just for playin' Huey Lewis. But it was an interesting comparison. I'm not computer friendly and do prefer cassette tape and open reel to mp3.
@warrenmacdonald1372
@warrenmacdonald1372 7 жыл бұрын
I stll have Maxell XLII"s from the late '70's that sound wonderful! The 60 minute XLII that you've used also has a thicker tape than the C-90's, making more stable and sonically superior sound, IMHO ( with listening tests from that era ). Thanks, I really enjoyed your demonstration
@jameshanoomansing1442
@jameshanoomansing1442 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, you an impressive machine there. I was wondering how does sansui sc3300 compare as a deck. Would you say that it is mid range/ Thanks, James from Mauritius.
@producer_ben
@producer_ben 6 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, but youtube compresses all audio. Even if this was a 24/96k high res audio file, vinyl, live recording it would still be a compressed recording here online. In person I'm sure the results vary dramatically, but via a KZbin stream it is merely a cause for "arguments"
@sportodevy833
@sportodevy833 8 жыл бұрын
I use cassettes (I got 3 head Technics deck) and digital formats as well. This comparision is nice, but.. Analog recording converted to pc it's not analog, it's digital. The second point - the title says it's mp3 320 comparison to the top quality tape and to crappy walkman/tape. But. guys, this is youtube, where all the files uploaded here are then converted to AAC 44.100/ 192 kbps bitrate file, so even the top sound of the cassette playing in a 3 head cassette deck via youtube is worse than the cassette playing straight on the sound system at home. And the 320 mp3 which we are here listening is not 320 mp3, but AAC 191..
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 8 жыл бұрын
+Sport Odevy Have you read the entire description? there are uncompressed audio available to download...
@xxxxxxxxxx02
@xxxxxxxxxx02 Жыл бұрын
The good quality mp3 sounds dead when compared to the deck.
@tankmchavocproductions6907
@tankmchavocproductions6907 6 жыл бұрын
the mp3 was most likely mastered that way. I also would like to know what source you used to record on the tape. Nevertheless the tape sounds amazing.
@EightiesNut
@EightiesNut 9 жыл бұрын
Great video keep it up!!!
@ortizdom1962
@ortizdom1962 8 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS MY FAVORITE CASSETE OF THE 80S
@subant05
@subant05 3 жыл бұрын
Getting an warm sounding DAC, or a tube based one and feeding it AAC @ 256 will get you the warm sound of a tape and with greater dynamic range.
@MrOhWhatTheHeck
@MrOhWhatTheHeck 8 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the MP3 to be honest, but that could just be because my headphones (Fidelio X2s) have a fairly dark sound signature.
@mudstone6497
@mudstone6497 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, am anyone provide their opinion on the following cassettes produced in the 80s and 90s, which do you think is best? Any info is appreciated; TDK SA90 FUJI FR-II MAXELL XL-II SONY UX BASF CHROME EXTRA II
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 8 жыл бұрын
What was the source you used?
@laranaarana
@laranaarana 5 жыл бұрын
I always bought Chrome (and Metal for much better recording) back in the '80s and '90s. I began with Realistic tapes (hey, I worked at Radio Shack in the mid-'80s, and I got 10% off on top of that.). Later on I would buy Maxel, Philips, Sony, BSF. I still have all of my recordings. The first cassette deck that I purchased was a Realistic SCT-23. It was one step below the best they had back in 1984. Had it for at least 12 years (until it stopped recording, had it serviced, but parts were no longer available...). After that one, I bought an Optimus SCT-91 autoreverse, auto cassette select deck in 1993 (which I still have). My last purchase was the Optimus SCT-57 Full Logic Controlled Cassette Deck Professional Series with Dolby B -C- S, Super Auto BLE XD Dual Cassette. Both units still work and I use them from time to time to listen to my cassette collection.
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 5 жыл бұрын
I miss the original source sample in this video for a good comparison
@spygearman
@spygearman 7 жыл бұрын
A Walkman am-31 should sound good, right?
@robertlee1549
@robertlee1549 8 жыл бұрын
How come most youtube videos don't use Type IV tapes?
@lesrogers7310
@lesrogers7310 6 жыл бұрын
Because they're bloody expensive and extremely rare!
@daro0352
@daro0352 9 жыл бұрын
If the tape is iron oxide instead of chrome, what will be difference compared to MP3?
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 9 жыл бұрын
+Daro0 Well, the difference will be a worse definition in the highs and higher background hiss, but also probably slightly better bass... It depends, however, on the tape used.
@donunus
@donunus 7 жыл бұрын
I do hear the sound of my old xl2s here wow. little youtube degradation aside, I am loving it. The mp3 sounds like a crappy version of my flac. same blend less quality
@jakefiersing
@jakefiersing 9 ай бұрын
At some parts of the vocal on the good tape it sounded totally continuous compared to the mp3 version, which did not do so.
@horaciorivero4553
@horaciorivero4553 7 жыл бұрын
Great demostration! thanks a lot
@dannyd1224
@dannyd1224 7 жыл бұрын
I dig the metal tape....not as much presence as the mp3 but I find it easier on the ear. Only thing I've noticed with tapes lately is when you really crank it up it seems like theres less dynamics or something....could be my stereo though.
@TekWhizz
@TekWhizz 5 жыл бұрын
Fun comparison, but to really come to any conclusions about analog vs. digital you'd have to make sure all three sources are producing a flat response curve first. There is no such thing as "digital sound" since all sound needs to be analog in the end. Those analog circuits don't usually have a perfectly flat output curve.
@FluxCondenser
@FluxCondenser 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@ClassicalRips
@ClassicalRips 8 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the download missing the high-end deck version?
@frefrefrenette
@frefrefrenette 8 жыл бұрын
Just downloaded it. It is missing. We can hear walkman and MP3 but not the high-end deck one.
@Konstantin_Terletskiy
@Konstantin_Terletskiy 6 жыл бұрын
As for me, the best sound here is "the good tape on the good deck". MP3 sounds worse, sound is not that soft. All frequences are there, but something is already lost in that sound. It's just sounds "cold" in MP3 variant. I would tell even boombox-walkman variant sounds more natural, yes, it misses low and high frequences, but still sound is more natural then MP3. But still, everything actually depends on the digitizing quality of youtube, we cannot hear real analog sound here
@sismani
@sismani 8 жыл бұрын
Sassette has more depth and bass vs the mp3 file! Very good for the classic cassett!!!
@vjvarta
@vjvarta 9 жыл бұрын
how about playing the tape recorded with the pioneer in the walkman?
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 9 жыл бұрын
gigi pedala That is what you can hear in some moments in the video. What do you mean really?
@vjvarta
@vjvarta 9 жыл бұрын
TheWalkmanArchive play the maxell XL II recorded with the pioneer in the walkman, not the tape recorded with the boombox as you say in the video.
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 9 жыл бұрын
gigi pedala Ahh, got it. Well, that is an interesting suggestion, and I already thought of that, as well as other combinations. Bit by bit, I'll be releasing new videos with new combinations...
@calvinlaudrensio415
@calvinlaudrensio415 6 жыл бұрын
FLAC: Hold my beer
@brynje2219
@brynje2219 7 жыл бұрын
I think the tape sounds more... full, mabye more bass response or smth? really noticable at 1:25
@casperguylkn
@casperguylkn 7 жыл бұрын
What source did you use to record onto the blank tape(s)? Was the source a CD or LP?
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 7 жыл бұрын
In this case I used a 320cbr MP3, though some time later I got the original US pressing LP in mint condition, that sounds better.
@chill-en-out8605
@chill-en-out8605 5 жыл бұрын
How were these recorded? Real time, pro high speed or some other way? Please
@TheWalkmanArchive
@TheWalkmanArchive 5 жыл бұрын
Real time, of course :-)
@MihaiGradin
@MihaiGradin 5 жыл бұрын
I like that cassette tapes give a certain warmth to the music.
@Raphaelwelingston
@Raphaelwelingston 6 жыл бұрын
But the question is : Does a normal cassette ( ferro) can sound good is it's recored on a good quality recorder ?
@afrolund80
@afrolund80 2 жыл бұрын
From what I understand most music companies used to use the cheapest quality cassette tapes that they could get away with. So if you wanted to hear the highest quality analog sound possible. Try dubbing from cd to cassette. It would be interesting to see the difference in quality between an original cassette recording and a copy from cd.
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you copy from a CD to magnetic tape and result a source that is inferior to the CD?
@afrolund80
@afrolund80 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikewallace8087 as noted in the video, music companies used cheap, low quality magnetic tape for their original recordings. And as I stated in the final sentence of my comment, "It would be interesting to see the difference in quality between an original cassette recording and a copy from CD."
@84patking
@84patking Жыл бұрын
What bugs me is how they mess up all the old music when they "remaster" it. They turn up all the volume levels, and it just sounds obnoxious. Just compared my old Joshua Tree U2 cassette to google music. The tape wins by miles. So much more dynamic and warm. Just feels alive, whereas the new streaming version is fatiguing to listen to. Thanks for the video!
@therestorationofdrwho1865
@therestorationofdrwho1865 7 жыл бұрын
I love the organic sound of the tape in the book box.
@therestorationofdrwho1865
@therestorationofdrwho1865 7 жыл бұрын
Tape all the way guys, I don't care what you say. I'll be using tape my whole life no matter what comes out in the future. Nothing matches the physical tape.
@EastAngliaUK
@EastAngliaUK 8 жыл бұрын
I can hear a wider stereo on the mp3 but the tape is also very good still. my speakers are Mordaunt-Short Avant 902i
@se7vennld
@se7vennld 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of mp3 encoder did you use?
@ozzatra7447
@ozzatra7447 4 жыл бұрын
how can i differentiate good tape from bad ones?
@Popart-xh2fd
@Popart-xh2fd 7 жыл бұрын
Still confusing nice sound with sound fidelity in Cassette vs mp3?
@diegoseuret3783
@diegoseuret3783 6 жыл бұрын
excellent excellent experiment, even i hear the tape better!!!! thanks for the video TheWalkmanArchive
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