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@alexandergrace5350
@alexandergrace5350 4 жыл бұрын
Props to the girl at the end for her honesty! What leads to more happiness for men? Sexual variety or long term monogamy: www.patreon.com/posts/what-will-make-34716515
@snyggmikael
@snyggmikael 4 жыл бұрын
Great video this time 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@j3lli3s
@j3lli3s 4 жыл бұрын
Trinidad ♡♡♡
@annakuswik3883
@annakuswik3883 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex could you share your sources please ? I mean the studies
4 жыл бұрын
There is some finesse that is lost in the analysis. Intelligence is not as modifiable as attractiveness, and for a man to be considered intelligent, you need to be at least a standard deviation above the average + some good Openness to Experience in order to be not only a robot, so I think they are honest in what they want, because those attributes would be highly correlated with success and heritable features (IQ and Openness are), traits that are rare and is highly unlikely they will pass when finding an intelligent man over a more attractive man. You face the problem as if it was a linear relation, when it is not (it is a Gaussian distribution) and they are not likely to find such man in a speed dating meeting because those men have abundance of women already ( and they are likely to have a good income as well). Appearance on the other hand is more modifiable, and might express work ethics and Conscientiousness paired with a good income (Industriousness); which are reasonable surrogates for intelligence (brands, taylor clothing, dental care, skin products, a good haircut, etc can be bought). Intelligence is is the most attractive feature from a man by far, but only when it is over a certain threshold, because it is not a uniformly distributed feature in the population by no means (for a woman is like winning the lottery, and they know it). And it is a trait that is highly correlated with education and income when paired with a reasonable level of Conscientiousness (psychometric trait)
@eugenedegeorge5084
@eugenedegeorge5084 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. interesting that both men and women actually regard attractiveness as the most important thing. That being said, remember the old saying: beauty is in the eye of the beholder; so what one man or woman sees as attractive ,another man or woman may not. just another thought to throw into the pot.
@qmulus1
@qmulus1 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m not like other women.” - Every Woman Ever
@qmulus1
@qmulus1 4 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 It's interesting the things women will admit to liking depending on what guy they're talking to. Nice, stable, reliable good guy: "I've only been with a couple of guys, and I'm looking for a good guy who will treat me right." Handsome, sexy, dangerous bad boy: "I have no gag reflex. Here, let me show you."
@qmulus1
@qmulus1 4 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 LMAO!!!
@headecas
@headecas 4 жыл бұрын
Tell a woman that every woman is the same and the time she takes to say that she ain't like the others is inversely proportional to how much she deviates from the norm. Never will she agree nor she will try to understand what u mean, she is diferent ie she is better
@whywouldyoucare239
@whywouldyoucare239 4 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 "we are all the same" and its funny how they use their PoV to describe ALL men. "All men are the same".
@lemattbox
@lemattbox 4 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't expecting to be here tonight" right before a hookup, and "I don't care, it doesn't matter to me" when talking about where to eat, both are guaranteed 100% of the time.
@justvibin1087
@justvibin1087 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not like most girls" - Most Girls
@obsideonyx7604
@obsideonyx7604 4 жыл бұрын
This entire study in one sentence
@kiralight6661
@kiralight6661 4 жыл бұрын
AWALT
@kgthompson5814
@kgthompson5814 4 жыл бұрын
You stole this comment for likes. You are pathetic.
@caterinadelgalles8783
@caterinadelgalles8783 3 жыл бұрын
I once told a man, 'I am crazy, like all women' - do I get a pass? ;)
@SS-ci8yk
@SS-ci8yk 3 жыл бұрын
@@caterinadelgalles8783 sure :)
@KiNgOfAwEsOmE164
@KiNgOfAwEsOmE164 4 жыл бұрын
Also consider the fact that we rate good looking people higher for positive traits like intelligence, ambitiousness and sincerity, so a good looking guy would score higher on other traits and skew the results, so the other traits are probably less important than they're shown.
@ibnz3888
@ibnz3888 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@DoGmAnGuY1758
@DoGmAnGuY1758 4 жыл бұрын
Putting the puzzle together. My man.
@BPN25
@BPN25 4 жыл бұрын
black pilled
@Zuranthus
@Zuranthus 4 жыл бұрын
cept that isn't what happened in this study at all, otherwise the "intelligence" scores would've been way higher than .2 in other words women think attractive guys are meatheads & ugly guys are poindexter
@MrShysterme
@MrShysterme 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zuranthus Yep. Also, the slope (strength of effect) of the line here is just as important and the correlation coefficient. It so happens that in this and many cases the slope correlates with rho, but it doesn't have to.
@opiniononion
@opiniononion 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly insightful, now I know to always ask a woman what she thinks other women would do if I want to know something
@Shalefist
@Shalefist 4 жыл бұрын
Frame is everything. Women will not lie as much about other women, because it helps their own odds of evolutionary survival if you think someone else is more shallow and easier than her. Men know to stay away from the village bicycle (for long-term relationships).
@MrShysterme
@MrShysterme 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I keep saying that they should ask women "how many men has your best friend slept with? has your best friend ever cheated on a partner?"....and finally get decently accurate answers.
@RodrigoLimaBatista
@RodrigoLimaBatista 3 жыл бұрын
That's kind of bad imo. I like to think if it was reversed and a girl asked about my friends. I for instance wouldn't cheat (did once when I was 17 but I was an asshole back then, I'm 28 now and never did it again), but almost every man I know and most of my close friends did. I tell then to their faces they are being a**holes, but to no avail. So if a woman judge me because of it I would be screwed. Most of then are good, hard working people, but assholes to their wives or girlfriends without they knowing it (mostly do it because they aren't getting it at home, and that sucks, but I tell then to just become a man and demand what you want or break it off, but crickets).
@RodrigoLimaBatista
@RodrigoLimaBatista 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladecross5146 if she cheats that's her problem. If I cheat, that's my problem. Truth is the path, trust me, every time I said mine I was rewarded, every time I didn't I was somehow punished. If you don't trust your girl leave her and find another, don't be a cat afraid of her and if you suspecting anything be a man and don't let her gaslight you. Just try not to be another asshole in the world.
@sunnysunshine8897
@sunnysunshine8897 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladecross5146 So you're a player?
@D0land0_94
@D0land0_94 4 жыл бұрын
Lol how is this guy not banned? He's making good points and showing data.
@kiralight6661
@kiralight6661 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's weird that his videos are not deleted . KZbin usually bans people who reveal the truth.
@theonlyduck
@theonlyduck 3 жыл бұрын
lol, he is pushing an agenda. It would be objective if he took into account how those initial judgements change over time. LOTS of women might lose interested in a good looking guy just because he might be dumb, boring etc. and the opposite too where they gain interested in previosly disregarded men the more they get to know them. THEN compare the results.
@poopman3180
@poopman3180 3 жыл бұрын
@the duck That’s a different question this is a study about initial judgements not preference over time. Also he did say that characteristics other than attractiveness like intelligence, ambition etc, are still important but you are less likely to be given the time to show those traits if you are not attractive.
@DeosPraetorian
@DeosPraetorian 3 жыл бұрын
​@@kiralight6661 "truth"
@harshjain3122
@harshjain3122 3 жыл бұрын
@@theonlyduck its speed dating dumbarse
@Shalefist
@Shalefist 4 жыл бұрын
What I love about this, is it re-confirms the idea that women are attracted to and hook up with you for one set of criteria, but have an entirely different set for anything permanent. Thus the origin of the phrase, "She marries you for who you are, then spend the rest of her life changing you into who she wants you to be." Is it any wonder that women end up always being "unhappy" with the men they've chosen???
@roberthermann97
@roberthermann97 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn't marry you for who you are, where in the world did you get that idea? She marries you for what you can do for her. The dilemma you're describing is just a matter of settling for what you can actually get.
@roberthermann97
@roberthermann97 4 жыл бұрын
@Itnetlolor A fair point, but Chads don't generally marry those women. Isn't Chad the guy who rotates a whole gallery of women, spins plates, whatever it's called these days. The chump is the one who gets married. The one she marries after she gets thrown off the carousel, after the clock starts ticking too loudly.
@chewface
@chewface 4 жыл бұрын
Most women go to speed-dating places to enjoy the thrill of turning every man down and feeling "empowered" as a result.
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the modern day feminist gets off on doing things like this.
@bye1551
@bye1551 4 жыл бұрын
@dumb genius just cause 1 gender does it, doesn't mean we can do it to. It's really shitty, regardless of who's doing it.
@Superjoseph-vd3zc
@Superjoseph-vd3zc 4 жыл бұрын
Bye I am man who believes in gender equality! 🤜🤰
@reversev9778
@reversev9778 4 жыл бұрын
@Bye while that’s true, they’re talking about a strip club, none of the women there actually cared about him in the first place
@filosofiamarcial8581
@filosofiamarcial8581 4 жыл бұрын
You win if you reverse ingeniering lol
@michalyne
@michalyne 4 жыл бұрын
If men were required to wear their bank balance on their forehead I'm sure it would make speed dating much easier for them.
@chrisjohns9631
@chrisjohns9631 3 жыл бұрын
100%. Looks and money are all that matters.
@AllenTax
@AllenTax 3 жыл бұрын
Then say out of 100 men. I think maybe only 5 would fit to the money.
@Illlium
@Illlium 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if people had the number of sexual partners on their forehead. How many people would grow out bangs?
@SDRockman
@SDRockman 4 жыл бұрын
I think what everyone needs to come to terms with is the FACT that people of both genders first base someone on what way they look, but everyone goes around calling that "shallow". Stop labelling this as "shallow" for goodness sake it serves no purpose and shows signs of denial more than anything.
@HiCenjoyer
@HiCenjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
Humans are innately shallow, its just bothersome when people pretend like we arent.
@Heldarion
@Heldarion 4 жыл бұрын
If someone labels that or you as shallow, just response with "And?" then watch them melt.
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
Humans, both male and female, judge books by their covers. People need to deal with this. If this makes humans shallow, then so be it.
@PrimoPete
@PrimoPete 4 жыл бұрын
@@HiCenjoyer Yes.
@austntexan
@austntexan 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone doesn't call that shallow. *Women* call men shallow for openly admitting they're attracted to physically attractive women. Man, you've been trained well.
@harambeexpress
@harambeexpress 4 жыл бұрын
Men know how important looks are to them - but their standard of beauty is a good deal less demanding than that of women.
@theeyepatch1219
@theeyepatch1219 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr acc to studies the body type that all women want in men is only 14% men in the world...so if the world were a fuckfest the top 14% guys would have hundreds of millions of women bugging em for a piece lol and the rest of the men would be baggards of this new fuckfestive world
@Failzz8
@Failzz8 4 жыл бұрын
True, in my experience men tend to immediately go to "she should at least not be ugly" basically, while women pretty much base line expect "not ugly", and then go from there
@Manie230
@Manie230 4 жыл бұрын
dumb genius yep. Women really have a easy time while men need to basically look like underwear models to be attractive. Les attractive guys still have a chance but they have a very hard time because they need to put in work women just don’t need to look like they were run over and at least one guy will find them attractive.
@burgernthemomrailer
@burgernthemomrailer 4 жыл бұрын
the main thing is just “not fat or ugly” and then the personal fetishes
@Rose-nk6qu
@Rose-nk6qu 4 жыл бұрын
i disagree, i think women have really broad tastes when it comes to men's physical appearance. i know from my experiences that not all women are attracted to men with an extremely muscly build/a sixpack etc. Men think they have lower standards for women's attractiveness but if you've got no ass/curves etc they just wont find u attractive no matter how pretty you are face-wise. but if you're the other end of the spectrum they just think you're fat. men want a woman with good curves but a nearly flat stomach? it's not physically possible. but then complain when women get cosmetic surgery.
@mullythebully5557
@mullythebully5557 4 жыл бұрын
My local town had a speed dating event. Suprisingly they needed more men and that a lot of women actually attended. It was actually in the news about needing more men.
@ZanderX10
@ZanderX10 4 жыл бұрын
Men have other things to do now. Who expects any healthy person to go speed dating anyway?
@mullythebully5557
@mullythebully5557 4 жыл бұрын
@@Failzz8 its not that bad. Condidering tinder and nightclub trash. Like if your not going to uni or dont work in a field with the opposite sex than how will people meet anyone. But i do see your point. I personally wouldnt do it.
@SCHMALLZZZ
@SCHMALLZZZ 4 жыл бұрын
15 years ago I remember going to In-n-Out Burger @ 11:00pm. A speed dating service filled up the dinning room and it was at least two girls for every guy.
@mullythebully5557
@mullythebully5557 4 жыл бұрын
@@SCHMALLZZZ bahahah what gives aye? I supposed 15 years ago that was the closest thing to tinder. 3 mins to talk and then safely reject the dude in a low risk environment
@olegunnarsolskjaer337
@olegunnarsolskjaer337 4 жыл бұрын
mully the bully Speed dating for the average man is the chance to get rejected 30 times in one night. Why sign up for that?
@thebanditman5663
@thebanditman5663 4 жыл бұрын
Literally every man interested in women: She just should't be massively fat and look like she's been hit with the ugly stick.
@HisMagnificence
@HisMagnificence 4 жыл бұрын
BigLBA1 DONT forget a pulse
@Zack-fu4lo
@Zack-fu4lo 4 жыл бұрын
His Magnificence is that really necessary
@jamestill4172
@jamestill4172 4 жыл бұрын
add "can literally generate a unique thought". I'm too picky for a guy, aren't I? xD
@cloudishly6412
@cloudishly6412 4 жыл бұрын
yh as long as theyre not obese and disfigured nobody cares
@svartrbrisingr6141
@svartrbrisingr6141 4 жыл бұрын
Or look like a Barbie
@phil6715
@phil6715 4 жыл бұрын
You have to remember that speed dating usually doesn't lead to a intellectual discussion that highlights intelligence
@darking30
@darking30 4 жыл бұрын
still if u dont pass the looks test not even in a normal date speed u would have a chance.
@vampir753
@vampir753 3 жыл бұрын
Even more the sincere criteria. I would not be able to make any real evaluation if a person is sincere after 4 minutes if he/she is not lying straight to my face with me noticing it. So the sincere ratings will be kind of random and therefore also less correlated with actual choices per default. The only thing that can be pretty reliably assessed after 4 minutes is looks.
@phil6715
@phil6715 3 жыл бұрын
@@vampir753 yes, looks and manner but that again ties into sincerity as people can fake their mannerisms
@TheFeldhamster
@TheFeldhamster 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was going to say this - the speed dating environment (and dating apps) skew the results a lot towards looks. If you look at more historical data, though (before workplaces got so much more strict on dating), most people got to know each other at the workplace, it used to be around 75%. Most other couples found each other through a shared circle of friends or at school/college. Where you would typically spend a much longer time evaluating people. And what we see there is that typically, women "marry up" and care less about looks. So, the female nurse marries the male doctor, even when there's a better looking janitor around. Prof. Dan Ariely (a famous behavioral economist) once proposed that dating apps would work much better if you would not see the matching person at first and would instead get to eg. solve something like a game or text adventure together with them. Like, you'd be matched based on your stated interests and then get to experience something with them that involves problem solving and preferably a bit of stress before you got to see them. If you meet in real life, he proposed going on a camping trip or similar.
@cantflyforshit
@cantflyforshit 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I was thinking, how tf do you measure someone's intelligence based on a quick interaction?
@Psychetwo
@Psychetwo 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is a difference in what women want in dating vs what they want in marriage. They might be thinking about what they in a husband when filling out the survey. I can totally see that women want an ambitious, sincere, and intelligent husband. But when it comes to dating, they just want a fun, good looking guy to hang out with.
@TheFeldhamster
@TheFeldhamster 3 жыл бұрын
Also, it's hard to really judge intelligence in a speed dating environment. In 4mins, the only thing you can reliably judge is looks. Shared interest and fun you can find out a bit about but you don't get to discuss deep problems in that kind of time. So, of course the average looking guy who's a bit shy and takes a bit more time to get to know will be at a disadvantage.
@Say_so_in_the_comments_below
@Say_so_in_the_comments_below 3 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way watching this. This only paints a picture for the short term. He explains in the end of the video having the most desired traits get people in the relationship, but to stay in it in a healthy manner you gotta have the other traits to back it up. I'm not gonna say that either side is wrong in this, but rather this tells us a lot about each side's end goals when it comes to dating.
@vdog3248
@vdog3248 4 жыл бұрын
Women care most about looks. How is that even a question today? Look at tinder or if you don't live under a rock, look around you. When women are asked what they like in interviews, most will lie. They don't want to sound shallow so they say personality or maybe money. As this video points out actions speak louder than words. Looks are the number 1 determinant of dating success for men, hands down.
@lmaoitsover
@lmaoitsover 4 жыл бұрын
It's a question because dumbasses love to deny this. Especially other women. They have 0 self awareness or straight up lie.
@rissroo4325
@rissroo4325 4 жыл бұрын
Looks matter to a degree to women but not like it is for men. Most women are fine with average looking men. If they have a good personality and generally a kind person, it makes that person look more attractive. Your entitlement is probably making you ugly to women.
@gon7155
@gon7155 4 жыл бұрын
@@rissroo4325 lmao
@braingriffin7547
@braingriffin7547 4 жыл бұрын
@@rissroo4325 only if your rich or you have fame then its okay to be ugly if you are a male
@davidhyatt7772
@davidhyatt7772 4 жыл бұрын
No really just joking I love all women honestly - especially the height Nazis
@joesmoedoe
@joesmoedoe 4 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. It seems women have more of a herd mentality. Something is only good if other women think it’s good. I’ve been in multiple serious relationships and in all of them, the friends (at least one friend) of my girlfriend made a pass at me. Women only want what other women want. Period.
@ericcollins6231
@ericcollins6231 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, it's kind of scary. It's probably why so many men report that women only started hitting on them once they got married.
@javierperalta7648
@javierperalta7648 4 жыл бұрын
I met the last girl I dated after her friend told her that she liked me. Guess what she did? She approached me and made out with me during her friend's birthday party
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 4 жыл бұрын
If would be interesting to know if more women or men are herd hording toilet paper.
@darKILLusionnn
@darKILLusionnn 4 жыл бұрын
I think you just have girlfriends with shitty friends. None of my friends, myself included would ever make a pass at a guy already in a relationship. That's just scummy.
@JoakimBB
@JoakimBB 4 жыл бұрын
Jupp it's survival instincts. Humans made heards and tribes to stay alive and fight of danger. Status= Protection Money= Protection Good genes=Protection. In reality women just want security. Now times are different, but you can't fight the lizard part of the brain. Not yet atleast maybe in 1000 years if this planet even here then who knows.
@osse1n
@osse1n 4 жыл бұрын
What women tells she is attracted to is almost always based on long term bonding. That is not remotely the same to what she finds as being hot and fun prospects. "Long term is what good for me, short term is what gets me going."
@_._.AZ._._
@_._.AZ._._ 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!
@lastravaganza2385
@lastravaganza2385 3 жыл бұрын
quit youtube bro
@Lubbe1984
@Lubbe1984 4 жыл бұрын
Woman have doubble standard. That is nothing new..
@Reduxem
@Reduxem 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with intelligence is actually displaying it in a speed dating environment
@westonprice6272
@westonprice6272 4 жыл бұрын
at 3:24 women dont think men go 100% for looks. they think chad just only goes 100% for looks, women only consider men chads, dont mistake that.
@motan7864
@motan7864 4 жыл бұрын
good point
@karalumiere4038
@karalumiere4038 4 жыл бұрын
💯 when women complain about men, it's about Chad.
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
@._. exactly what I was going to say.
@roberthermann97
@roberthermann97 4 жыл бұрын
*chads men
@N8_R
@N8_R 3 жыл бұрын
Women get abused by Chad and punish the betas for what Chad did.
@deanomarino31
@deanomarino31 4 жыл бұрын
What they say THEY WANT is describing the beta provider (long term security as intelligence is a good correlation to income) What they say OTHER WOMEN WANT is describing the alpha Chad. He's Short term, hence attractiveness, fun and common interest (charm and BS) matter. Wamen have 2 "types" Alpha farks and beta bucks. In Speed dating she's looking for alpha farks.
@mmastylez
@mmastylez 4 жыл бұрын
Why the separation? Women don't want an ugly beta bucks... They want the billionaire chad 10/10 model ceo who spanks them, its what 50 shades was all about
@Bankai90
@Bankai90 4 жыл бұрын
lol the only time when women go for the beta provider is when they couldn't ground an alpha "provider", this usually happens at the age of 25+ when they notice their french fries and alcohol diet let them age prematurely and panic sets in, that's where men who slowly get comfortable with themselves(aswell financially) need to be most careful
@deanomarino31
@deanomarino31 4 жыл бұрын
I need to correct my comment. The women say what THEY want is what is socially acceptable (intellegence, moral etc ... the beta provider) so they appear good. What they say OTHERS want (attractive, exciting bad boy Alpha) is actually what they want but know it's shallow and not socially acceptable.
@requiemdream9763
@requiemdream9763 4 жыл бұрын
@@mmastylez they do want the billionaire chad 10/10 model with high income, who is faithful to her. But this person does barely exist in reality.
@BlahBlahPoop617
@BlahBlahPoop617 4 жыл бұрын
deanomarino31 Yep. Women have attraction and then sexual attraction. Two are different things.
@mosesomorogbe3678
@mosesomorogbe3678 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, your analysis is not debatable. Just flawless and easy to grasp. Good job, bro.
@Calembunial
@Calembunial 4 жыл бұрын
You mention towards the end that "men are shallow", just because they value physical attractiveness. However, it's a lot easier for a woman to be attractive to a guy. They don't expect much when it comes to basics. You don't have to be the most good-looking woman on the planet for a man to want to be with you. However, when it comes to women, as a man it is a lot harder to pull women based purely on physical attractiveness. There are many other factors that come into play - including a bunch of really small, insignificant, often petty things, that women take into account. Things that aren't exclusive to the man himself as a person. Examples include - social status, wealth, outfit at the time, etc. And it is because of this that I believe women are actually the more shallow gender.
@sub-zero5983
@sub-zero5983 4 жыл бұрын
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎yup your on to something
@devonbrody822
@devonbrody822 4 жыл бұрын
This times infinity
@TheDrakelicious
@TheDrakelicious 4 жыл бұрын
We want a nice body. All else can be OK if you have a healthy body and you use it. Why not? I have seen guys complaining about this, not at all self aware, acting like they can't do a sit up cause it's unfair or they lack a special neuron or something. Move. We are the same amount of shallow.
@shinyguy1
@shinyguy1 4 жыл бұрын
TheDrakelicious women only rate 15 percent of men as above average in looks. Men rate 50 percent of women as above average.
@motan7864
@motan7864 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you guys understand that, deep down in their DNA, they are programmed to unconsciously look for SAFETY for their offspring? Which means WAY MORE than looks? Looks does matter yes. But wealth (materialistic safety), fun (psychologic/mental safety), mental strength, logic and intelligence (safeguard against social/economical threats) are huge requirements too. Actually these traits matter WAY MORE than looks. So. Who's the shallow here? The guy for whom seeing a pair of boobs is enough to mate, thus not forseeing and not planning ahead for the future, or the woman, who filters billions of criterias more and who cares for the safety of the next generation? * sigh * it is tiring to see all these young men who can just whine about how unfair life is. Guys, you are MEN. So suck it up and be men, improve yourselves and STFU.
@denglish5275
@denglish5275 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of someone being like oh I talked to him for 4 minutes. He's this amount sincere and this amount intelligent. This kind of study is obviously going to have a bias towards the more shallow character traits given there isn't enough time to find out more about the person
@romangonzalezadrianmaurici6302
@romangonzalezadrianmaurici6302 3 жыл бұрын
Well is not a bias, because authors calrify that this results are valid for "speed dating" but you are right that some people could misundertansd the results and that this applies for longer reltionships fue example. But in the video is explained that this only applies literally on the first date, maybe at approaching a girl at the bar but probably if you are inteligent, the relationship is more likely to last longer.
@emericmarchand1392
@emericmarchand1392 3 жыл бұрын
Good points to bot of you !
@titsbitchmcgee7502
@titsbitchmcgee7502 2 жыл бұрын
The main takeaway is that what women say they look for is completely different than what they actually look for. If you take note of the difference between what women think they're looking for vs. what they think other women are looking for, the latter is actually much closer to reality. One might extrapolate from this that women will add details that they don't actually care about in an effort to separate themselves from the pack and appear less shallow.
@tobiaspascher9884
@tobiaspascher9884 2 жыл бұрын
What it shows however ia the difference in self awareness between men and women
@nickem6556
@nickem6556 10 ай бұрын
You can tell by the way someone talks, the words they use and by tone that they have intellegence, and tone shows sincere.
@nitrous36
@nitrous36 4 жыл бұрын
6:58 the female graph looks like a hurricane's "cone of uncertainty" lol.
@CottidaeSEA
@CottidaeSEA 3 жыл бұрын
The girl at the end knows what's up and is honest enough to admit it. Appearance matters a lot when you don't have anything else to judge.
@redridingcape
@redridingcape 2 жыл бұрын
It's just logical, people don't have infinite time so you judge people on what you can quickly determine first and then if they pass you look for other criteria.
@CottidaeSEA
@CottidaeSEA 2 жыл бұрын
@@redridingcape Exactly. That's why chances are far better in school, workplaces and among friend groups for those who are less physically attractive. Because there's more time to learn about the other person.
@Tarvisman
@Tarvisman 4 жыл бұрын
When you ask her about other women she reveals her real opinion
@SemperBlood
@SemperBlood 3 жыл бұрын
My last speed dating session went like this. Me "What do you do for a living?" Her "I'm a divorce lawyer." I got up and left, never to speed date again.
@CourtneyMedinaEco
@CourtneyMedinaEco 4 жыл бұрын
Solid advice at the end there. People really need to understand their interests and be able to talk about them in order to be confident and attractive to people with common interests. That's why having a hobby where you can meet people makes dating infinitely easier than matching with randoms on tinder.
@ClokworkGremlin
@ClokworkGremlin 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 women don't think men care about sincerity. That explains a lot.
@bosniangamesms8957
@bosniangamesms8957 4 жыл бұрын
what is that
@cj82-h1y
@cj82-h1y 3 жыл бұрын
Well spotted
@dimar4150
@dimar4150 4 жыл бұрын
the disconnect of a woman's stated interest in looks vs actual interest in looks, I believe, is evolutionary developed behavior. If you want to reap the most amount of benefits for self/community while diminishing perceived inequality to maintain social harmony, you as a woman would be better off encouraging men to think their mating choices are more a product of effort rather than inborn unalterable traits. This encourages societal progression on whole as well as provides the female with honest long term parental quality signaling by men, which in turns gives them more information when selecting a mate.
@dimar4150
@dimar4150 4 жыл бұрын
@Enemy Of moron if 80% of men who are competing for bottom 20% of women realize their luck is contingent on 80% of women failing to attain the top 20% of men, the efforts of 80% of men will diminish. Which is bad for society. When that happens those society's ideologies get out-competed out of existence by their more seemingly egalitarian counterparts .
@dimar4150
@dimar4150 4 жыл бұрын
in my opinion... lol
@IAmBeingSilenced
@IAmBeingSilenced 4 жыл бұрын
@Enemy Of moron The male plan A is to woo a mate. What is the male plan B?
@edwardmiller2273
@edwardmiller2273 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory. Something tells me however though that the average woman doesn't give a damn about the progression of the human race in the future, she is only occupied with furthering her own self interest only.
@horstpeter2202
@horstpeter2202 4 жыл бұрын
@@dimar4150 I don'believe society necessarily functions like that. You get the 80-20-rule from the tinder study, however, I don't think that that tinder study represents natural selection. If you look at polygamous societies like Saudi-Arabia, you will notice that the most successful men in terms of reproduction are the ones with excess to a lot of resources and power, not looks. We know for sure that much more women reproduced than men, However we don't know why. Did the good looking guys reproduce or the ones with access to resources or the ones with the best immune system and so on? One indication could be, that, if women only searched for handsome guys, we shouldn't have ugly ones left now, but we do have ugly men. Cuckholding also probably didn't occur an a large scale, maybe 1 to 2% of children are from other men; this makes sense, because children who are raised by their biological father should have a better childhood.
@WildThoughtsAI
@WildThoughtsAI 4 жыл бұрын
basically, your genetics determines your dating life. Thanks to genetics for making life so fair
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
This.
@dave87gn
@dave87gn 3 жыл бұрын
I did speed dating like 8x and the overwhelming majority of women were obese.
@tomasjurka4129
@tomasjurka4129 3 жыл бұрын
people are forgetting that this is a speed dating environment, when you don't have the time to look at factors like intelligence or sincerity... that really skews the stated and actual interest
@Vyloka
@Vyloka 3 жыл бұрын
Then why isnt it consistently skewed for both genders more equally?
@titsbitchmcgee7502
@titsbitchmcgee7502 2 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting that people were rated on each attribute after the dates were finished. So guys who were rated high in intelligence weren't getting the 2nd date as often as guys rated high in attractiveness, which goes directly against women's stated interest.
@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s
@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s 3 жыл бұрын
Correction: Men and women in a speed dating pool are statistically shallow. Not mentioning the statistical sampling bias or error is a cardinal sin and a sign that an agenda is being pushed.
@soniasilva9637
@soniasilva9637 4 жыл бұрын
So...i guess "Idiocracy " is a documentary , now.
@Skeetopunk01
@Skeetopunk01 4 жыл бұрын
now? It always was...
@soniasilva9637
@soniasilva9637 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSpecialized75 FACTS. Too bad i can't stand FB, but thx !
@warren64216
@warren64216 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at how women always find new ways to lie.....
@iantodoyle7876
@iantodoyle7876 4 жыл бұрын
I asked a female friend what women are looking for, then role played it. She hated it. Then I role played what actually worked. She was hooked. Then begged me to tell what I did. I refused. It was hilarious.
@paragt3682
@paragt3682 4 жыл бұрын
So what did you do exactly?
@dangly9454
@dangly9454 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what did you do?
@alaron5698
@alaron5698 4 жыл бұрын
.
@sarahb8147
@sarahb8147 4 жыл бұрын
r/thathappened
@afielsch
@afielsch 4 жыл бұрын
I know these words, but this particular combination of words makes little sense to me. For example- how many women are involved here?
@Shalefist
@Shalefist 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I am surprised at the number of dudes in here who think women are unaware of their own nature; do not buy into their own narrative gentlemen. That line of logic preserves their frame. If they were truly unaware, they would not need to resort to trashing other women to begin to be honest. Put another way, women want to present themselves as pure, innocent, and sensible. Then remember that every other dude before and after you are being sold the same story. Still ends up with her and him eventually in bed. Yet despite the fun and games, she is long past him and talking to you now. Ever wonder what happened???
@dylanbinkley266
@dylanbinkley266 4 жыл бұрын
I see you’ve also read “the rationale male” PREACH
@strategic1710
@strategic1710 3 жыл бұрын
One immutable truth about women: if you want to know what they believe the last thing you should be doing is asking questions and listening to them talk.
@walauahahaha
@walauahahaha 3 жыл бұрын
What about the women that want men to initiate a good topic? So men just shut up and wait them to ask question or talk? I don't understand how this actually works
@Warrior_Culture
@Warrior_Culture 3 жыл бұрын
Women that are SPEED dating want traits that fit SHORT term relationships!? You don't say! lol, all this tells me is that men speed date because they hope that quantity will land them what they're looking for instead of putting so much effort in every relationship they get, while the women are there to enjoy the immediate benefits of speed dating. Maybe if you guys want serious women you won't...you know... SPEED date.
@Furious_Angel
@Furious_Angel 3 жыл бұрын
Men, for all their claims of being the more logical sex, don't look that closely at anything that puts women down and makes men look good. The context of a video like this will be ignored so guys can bash women, but in a video that reverses the target of scrutiny, men will question and analyze every little detail to discredit it. Being openly competitive is traditionally a male strength, but it's also what makes them fools.
@philipkurian3114
@philipkurian3114 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting - However it should be noted it is hard to judge ambition, sincerity and intelligence in a 4 minute speed dating scenario. Looks, fun, and shared interests are much more easily evaluated in this scenario and may explain the observed skew.
@magnushultqvist
@magnushultqvist 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to judge intelligens and ambition in just 4 minutes. Unless the person is really stupid or have zero ambitions. So good looking, fun and secure is the most important thing.
@deusexbaby5555
@deusexbaby5555 4 жыл бұрын
Love how girls are looking for ambition when they arent.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 3 жыл бұрын
Ambition in a man means potential increases in his income... it's the income they're really attracted to. Ambition in a woman means she won't cook, clean or take care of kids while she's drowning in student loan debt and trying to further her career by any means necessary.
@darksoals
@darksoals 4 жыл бұрын
Also in a speed date environment you can’t judge someone’s intelligence effectively. Actually looking at the graphs this explains a lot, because people are assigning goals based on long term relationships, and speed dating is a short term interaction. Therefore when a person meets a new person for the first time, they only have time to look on a surface level. Immediately the most important attributes become the surface “hooks” that being appearance: this one looked nice. same interests: we have stuff in common. And fun: did I enjoy my interaction with them tonight? Would this maintain a long term relationship? No it wouldn’t. If there was too severe a gap in intelligence or sincerity the relationship would crumble long term, and I think that’s a pretty key feature that this study missed. The difference between a long term and a short term human interaction.
@everygamegoing
@everygamegoing 3 жыл бұрын
I've been to some speed-dating events in the past. They cost £20 for a ticket. Due to the pandemic they all stopped for about two years. Now I am constantly getting e-mails that say men can come to future events for free, although it would appear the women's tickets all sell out. Seems that, in London at least, men are just not going to them any more. I wonder why...
@RoninXDarknight
@RoninXDarknight 4 жыл бұрын
Looks are generally what catch a man's attention but it's what's going on inside that's going to keep it.
@Alienrun
@Alienrun 4 жыл бұрын
I can't think of a SINGLE man this doesn't apply to! Like wow, every women listen...this is what we want lol
@alspezial2747
@alspezial2747 Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of "What a woman wants, what she thinks she wants, and what she says she wants are 3 verry different things"
@edsanchez6173
@edsanchez6173 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, AG. Great video. It is true that the study is only a small collection of data, but it does indicate what should be evident to everyone. Physical attractiveness is the initial assessor within the context of a speed dating scenario and this can indeed be extended to most any pairing environment. This has always been the case and the study was not concerned with the long term viability of assessments made during these speed dating events. If she finds you physically pleasing and the conversation was fun, she may find that you have some things in common to laugh about - success. Then she can entertain the thought of observing whether or not you are sincere, intelligent and ambitious - these take time to discern. This is no different from Men, it is simply that Men are comfortable accepting this. Men are aware that physical attraction is the first step, after which observation will determine the long term viability of a match - to what degree she possesses the intangibles that are difficult to assess accurately in any initial engagement. The way forward for Men and Women is to remain fit, cultivate the degree of beauty you were gifted with, but work on the things that will afford you abundance of choice within a long term bonding situation. Men need to curate in their lives qualities such as sincerity, intelligence and ambition. Women need to curate in their lives the intangibles of kindness, caring, and nurturing. A Man with the qualities she needs will give her the security and safety she wants. A Woman with the qualities he needs will give him the opportunity to stay in touch with those things Men are not typically valued for except by those closest to him. Men and Women with these complimentary qualities stand a decent chance for a long term pairing as they complete the two sides of the coin of human experience. This is not to say Men needn’t be kind, caring, and nurturing or that Women needn’t be sincere, intelligent and ambitious, rather that the degree to which these qualities are present will be attractors. There is no guarantee of outcome but we all try to minimize the risk to the extent that we can. No one is at fault for wanting the best for themselves. Speed dating is just a microcosm of what goes on daily. The truths may seem harsh and cruel, but if Men and Women cultivated and curated the qualities mentioned, then I suspect we’d all be happier in general and we wouldn’t need to descend to such desperate things like speed dating. I learned very early on that engaging in things like speed dating, tinder and whatever dating site you care to mention, is a great way to meet people and very quickly realize exactly why it is they are single and likely to remain so until they learn to work on themselves and leave behind the entitlement of thinking just any old version of themselves should be a catch for everyone. Work on yourself to be a quality human being and you’ll discover that other quality human beings are happy to make your acquaintance. Looking forward to your next.
@thomaskatt4450
@thomaskatt4450 4 жыл бұрын
Dissasociation, woman will compartmentalize their two desires (lover or provider), they will not be able to reconcile the two in their brains because each persona cancels out the other. Never the twain shall meet.
@philosophyze
@philosophyze 4 жыл бұрын
I'd reached similar conclusions. Especially online. The experience of attractive men is completely different. I think people end up dating similarly attractive partners in the majority of cases. There are exceptions but they have something else major to contribute in some way.
4 жыл бұрын
I actually check the attractiveness box but I honestly underestimated the importance of being “fun” to women. Being fun/ personable is something I can now retrace as being the thing I’ve missed when going out on dates with women before. I almost always at least got to make out despite how emotionless I am but I’ll change that side of me.
4 жыл бұрын
Average Mo I just need to do it for long enough to get to have sex with them. 🤷🏿‍♂️
@vjhicks8533
@vjhicks8533 3 жыл бұрын
Counterpoint… while I agree that women value general “attractiveness” more than they might admit… this is a “speed dating” environment. You aren’t really able to judge traits like “intelligence” truly if you have a few minutes. So to be fair to women, with only a few minutes you don’t have anything to go on besides attractiveness. I’d be curious how this would play out in say a college environment if you were able to track the classmates/dorm mates who met each other in such and environment and began dating after some time. I think in such an environment where there is an ability to get to know someone over a longer term, is possible maybe those other characteristics besides attractiveness could be better judged by women and their self-evaluations are not as far off. Of course such an experiment would be hard to track.
@TheFeldhamster
@TheFeldhamster 3 жыл бұрын
There have been older studies about this. When workplaces were less stringent in regards to dating, around 75% of couples met at the workplace. And women would "marry up". So, basically the cliche of the female nurse marrying the male doctor even if there was a better looking janitor (who maybe moonlights at the gym) around.
@vjhicks8533
@vjhicks8533 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFeldhamster interesting. And that kind of supports my point. In the work environment women went for the successful person, not the most physically attractive one. So the successful just moderately attractive executive over the hunk who works building maintenance. Likely that successful guy has more in terms of intelligence and other harder to judge in an instant qualities. Which really supports what historically women look for…. Security. But in a 5 minute speed dating/tinder type environment you can’t judge such things, so what are you left with….. looks, height. 5 minutes doesn’t allow anything else. With speed dating you can’t really judge
@tomau3946
@tomau3946 4 жыл бұрын
"intelligence, ambition, and sincerity are what young people's PARENTS want for them. Attractiveness, fun, and interest are what young people want for themselves.
@rishavkumarsingh2245
@rishavkumarsingh2245 4 жыл бұрын
Woow, your contents are well thought out, zero politicised, no intentional provocation. And above, it feels like you really want to know, rateher than manufacture consent.
@imthewholeman9126
@imthewholeman9126 4 жыл бұрын
Ask her, about her friends, to get the truth, genius!!
@The4Tifier
@The4Tifier 4 жыл бұрын
In short, attractiveness is the #1 most important factor for both men and women for who they want to date... That’s just common sense...
@arriagaadrian91
@arriagaadrian91 4 жыл бұрын
In other words both men and women who go to speed dating prefer attractiveness. They are also not great at picking what we truly seek in a person. I'm shocked.
@j3lli3s
@j3lli3s 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo you got people in Trinidad doing interviews too I am baffled. Been a subscribed for about three years now. You just got alot more respect from me. I'm Trinidadian so it's delight to see us featured
@harambeexpress
@harambeexpress 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think these graphs also might show how society lies to women about women, and that women internalise this? (This is almost a Feminist argument, I'm aware. But I'm interested in thoughts on this.) Perhaps women not understanding themselves or other women is a result of infantilism?... Mostly from women to women?
@janpieterszooncoen2550
@janpieterszooncoen2550 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@harambeexpress
@harambeexpress 4 жыл бұрын
@Cool Dude isn't that obvious? It's a power obsessed political movement that generates emotionally manipulative propaganda to secure support... Though I'd say that it isn't just women that drink the coolaid and lose the ability to observe reality and think for themselves.
@dsm2240
@dsm2240 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for NOT having nonstop busy music in the background!
@jimseagoe1669
@jimseagoe1669 4 жыл бұрын
Supporting your analysis: looking at the correlations chart it is apparent that ratings for attractiveness, fun and interests have much greater range than the data for sincerity, intelligence and ambition. And most of that difference is in the lower scores. This suggests the participants found it easier to distinguish levels for those traits - whether because of the format of the test (speed dating) or because that's what they really cared about
@antonlevay3851
@antonlevay3851 4 жыл бұрын
We do care about intelligence and charisma, but we have to take what we can get usually so you can't care to much.
@danhalo1405
@danhalo1405 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly woman are very well aware themself that they do look for attractiveness the most in a partner but they would like to believe that they are less shallow than they actually are because society told everyone especially girls for a long time that being shallow is a morally bad thing. Guys answer more honest to this question because society never was really that judgemental in this aspect to us it always was more or less expected that guys want attractiv partners. Girls and guys are not that extremely different to each other in the things they initially look for in a partner we always knew that girls are in reality not that much less shallow the main difference is what society expects of each gender.
@marcuswalker6764
@marcuswalker6764 4 жыл бұрын
Also, social acceptance is PARAMOUNT to women because way back when, that and the strongest ,most intelligent guy with the most resources were the sole means of women's survival before society changed and women started to work and take care of themselves. It's A lot more difficult to find someone to take care of you than to take care of yourself because that person has to be the total package to safely trust them in ALL situations.
@alaron5698
@alaron5698 4 жыл бұрын
That's always the rationale; "society made women that way". No, it didn't. This is just how they are.
@danhalo1405
@danhalo1405 4 жыл бұрын
@@alaron5698 it is not just woman guys also act in the same way. No one can deny that society heavily influences how humans think and behave especially when people think that other people (the society) might watch them like you always have in an interview situation. For example if you would ask guys in an interview like this how many girls they had sex with i bet you the majority of those guys would tell you a way higher number than they actually had and when you would ask girls the same question they would tell you a way lower number. And now ask yourself why do people answer this way? The answer is that people expect off interviews that some other people will watch what they said and so they mostly answer in a way they think is socially the most beneficial or appropriate for them.
@Emidretrauqe
@Emidretrauqe 3 жыл бұрын
They're not as interested in ambitious men as they thought they were because they're not interested in projects. They want people who already succeeded.
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 3 жыл бұрын
BINGO!
@titianarasputin
@titianarasputin 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with this study is that sincerity and intelligence don't readily come across in a speed dating setting. You need more time to determine if someone is sincere or intelligent. You even said it yourself: attractiveness, fun, and shared interests are the easiest ones to demonstrate in a very short period of time.
@johnnythekid4601
@johnnythekid4601 3 жыл бұрын
well if your ugly there's no way a woman is going to think anything you say is sincere. She'll be skeptical of everything you say and do and dissect you piece by piece.
@orochicc002
@orochicc002 3 жыл бұрын
Average guy's expectations: 1. Not obese 2. Not crazy
@hearyth
@hearyth 4 жыл бұрын
Was that last clip in Trinidad? Wow, I didn’t know you had Caribbean views here..would be cool to see more of that. Great video as usual, Alexander
@communist-hippie
@communist-hippie 4 жыл бұрын
By your avatar.. do you live in Australia?
@j3lli3s
@j3lli3s 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised too. Trinidad posse
@j3lli3s
@j3lli3s 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised too. Trinidad posse
@hearyth
@hearyth 4 жыл бұрын
@@communist-hippie nah. I'm from The Bahamas, but I attend the university in Trinidad.
@yjmsniper
@yjmsniper 4 жыл бұрын
I often find myself clicking on your videos. Good stuff!
@NightOfCrystals
@NightOfCrystals 4 жыл бұрын
Ambition and sincerity probably rank low because they are hard to convey in four minutes. I think the study design biases the results towards attractiveness, interest, and fun, but that there’s also truth to those mattering anyway.
@haruhidaso
@haruhidaso 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s impossible to actually tell people’s sincerity or intelligence with 4 minutes. I didn’t noticed some of my friends are not sincere at all months after I met them. It make sense why they are low for both gender
@davidbush9274
@davidbush9274 3 жыл бұрын
Funniest line in the presentation: "Women should take responsibility for their own focus..."
@kostantinosvlasakakis4106
@kostantinosvlasakakis4106 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that so many women think men want an ambitious girl... they think entirely out of their own scope. That is not the case. No man cares about how much money a woman earns, because in turn it could end up hurting his prospective time with her, as she is more busy - also she might find someone else who has higher earning potential than the man she is currently with- thus making a partner insecure. Thats why women and men need honesty, loyalty and respect for another - but it must be earned. Men have the problem with trusting too easily, and not seeing the snake in the grass that is the woman's faithfulness. Women probably feel insecure about their fading beauty as time creeps forward.
@clashofqueen93
@clashofqueen93 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know how to be with women anymore after this..like wow.
@TheButterMinecart1
@TheButterMinecart1 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that there might be selective bias just from the fact that only certain kinds of people show up to speed dating events.
@jayantamukharjee4304
@jayantamukharjee4304 4 жыл бұрын
You are Heavenly Angel. Love from Far away India.
@theeyepatch1219
@theeyepatch1219 4 жыл бұрын
Yo bro m brown tooo namely mumbaaai
@criticaltweaker4393
@criticaltweaker4393 4 жыл бұрын
So a women as an individual will want intelligence over attractiveness but because women are always worried about how they are judged they go for what's most attractive physically. So shes wants to date an attractive guy for status.
@conradsmith9441
@conradsmith9441 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 I just want you all to notice how women and men score almost exactly the same on how important physical attraction is. I’d say girls are just as shallow or more shallow. Intelligence, sincerity, and ambition are what we are told women like, however that’s not what they want. I feel that those three traits are some of traits people who are not shallow focus on. I actually think women are the shallow sex now not men. And it’s even worse that they don’t even know it. Men know they are shallow. Women are shallow too, they just don’t know it.
@scottmoering9810
@scottmoering9810 4 жыл бұрын
They are MORE shallow. The Dating apps are proof of this
@oldrogue4247
@oldrogue4247 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing shallow about choosing attractiveness. Our DNA demands that we choose attractive people for 2 reasons; 1. Attractive people are almost always healthier than unattractive people, so they survive longer. 2. Your offspring from an attractive mate are more likely to also be attractive, and will themselves be seen as high-value individuals, thus continuing your bloodline.
@jaynz247
@jaynz247 3 жыл бұрын
I work, and have worked in job with 20 or more women of varying ages, where I am the only guy for 15 years. (I need a medal!) From my observation they all giggle and obsess about men's hot appearances, but in reality all of their boyfriends and partners I have met are average/ordinary. An averagely attractive woman might not cope if she had a very attractive male partner. Her head might implode with insecurity. I have also noticed that women are all out for number one, and they may feign interest in each other but are essentially in competition with each other constantly
@erojerisiz1571
@erojerisiz1571 4 жыл бұрын
This chart looks like a stand stat circle
@erojerisiz1571
@erojerisiz1571 4 жыл бұрын
@Muteba Gizenga Long range stands are great
@infinitedurr
@infinitedurr 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting stuff. One ambiguity here that makes quite a difference: in regards to "likelihood to get a second date", what's not clear is what the idea of a date _means_ to the people being polled. That was never defined. If a person is viewing a potential partner in terms of sexual interest vs. looking at them as an LTR, these different intents would create very different outcomes in terms of who they might pick for a second date.
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad seeing sincerity getting screwed over by both men and women when it came to their actual choices, but then maybe I'm expecting too much from speed-dating 🤔
@Failzz8
@Failzz8 4 жыл бұрын
I mean sincerity is also gonna be REAL hard to judge for obvious reasons lol
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 4 жыл бұрын
@@Failzz8 It's hard yes but not impossible, the last clip in the video is a good example of a sincere exchange.
@alaron5698
@alaron5698 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of it is lacking self-awereness rather than incenserity.
@anonygent
@anonygent 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who is tall, intelligent, and ambitious, but broke and not that good looking, I can tell you it's all bullshit. No looks, no money, no dates. I might as well be 5' tall and a moron.
@JohnDoe-xk1dv
@JohnDoe-xk1dv 4 жыл бұрын
Your best bets in this case are not Tinder or speed dating. You need the girl who has humility in her soul (actually all guys do, but many are ignorant of that need), and she minimises and mocks the hypergamy in her for the present (not her genes' magical future). Focus on developing yourself, and being able to screen for that girl, so when she pops up on the radar, you won't overlook her, and are aware of how to attract her. They're out there, but that rare one should not be the focus of your life - just a side of it. Most women are not like this, so don't expect to find this kind of girl in a heartbeat.
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 4 жыл бұрын
What I find totally incoherent in women is while they recognize how important looks are to men, they will let themselves put on weight, too often these days get a bunch of tattoos, color their hair neon, and get an attitude that is quite offensive to men. Yet they still expect men to find them as attractive as women who do a much better job of looking after themselves.
@technoloverish
@technoloverish 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I think women who get tattoos and/or color their hair realize that men who hate them for that simply are not the men for them and that those men are ultimately judgmental jerks. Personally, I don't really see how tattoos or colored hair could a problem for someone unless it violates their religious beliefs.
@rgchrono
@rgchrono 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see what's your point with tattoos and colored hair is? I find the women who have one or both of these things attractive. You are probably in a different generation than me? I was born in 1982, so tatts and color hair is no big deal. Yet! Being overweight is a deal breaker for me.
@technoloverish
@technoloverish 4 жыл бұрын
@@rgchrono I know what you mean. As a straight man myself, there are definitely some women I find attractive who are a bit overweight, so it's not inherently an issue for me. In generally, I think people are more attractive when they are not overweight, I just don't aim for perfection with regards to weight. But yes, attraction is complicated and technically, we all have different preferences. I think his point might be that women with colored hair or a tattoo are more masculine and/or rebellious, which I don't think is necessarily true. Furthermore, most men and women have some characteristics that are arguably opposite of that of the gender they identity with.
@rgchrono
@rgchrono 4 жыл бұрын
@@technoloverish true, I can see a lot of men believing that. I'm an art major, so I was pretty much meeting artsy women type back in my college years: colored hair and tattoos became the norm for me. As for my own attraction, i know myself too, where I know the maximum hip measurement I find really attractive on women, 42 inch max size. Think Amber Rose body frame lol!. If a woman is more than that, I start finding them unattractive. My ex was 47 inches hip size wise, she was black too so in their culture being fat in the hips is normal, as I dropped weight sex with her became difficult and some positions were either painful or were not doable. I dropped 85 pounds, so I wanted the same for her, she totally rejected my offer to help her get rid of the extra weight. Her insecurities destroyed the relationship. I had no choice but to move on. I'm now looking to date a woman who matches my preferences, both in body and mind.
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 4 жыл бұрын
@dumb genius As long as both sexes aren't delusional about being less attractive. Except so many of these women think they are still attractive to men of significantly higher looks/money/status. The delusion runs deep (aided by society and marketing/advertising/sales lying to them) with so many of these women.
@shirakumi5113
@shirakumi5113 3 жыл бұрын
This type of information is like a drug for my brain. Thank you
@Eye_of_a_Texan
@Eye_of_a_Texan 4 жыл бұрын
Confirmed, few people care about honesty, integrity, and intelligent. We all want lying, easily manipulated mouth breathers for a partner. At least until that gets old.
@anewman513
@anewman513 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting analysis - thank you. While the R value in your scatter plots (from 4:24) is an important metric for defining the reliability of the correlation, the slope of the regression line is a better measure of the strength of the correlation. For example, if the R is close to 1 and regression line is nearly horizontal or nearly vertical the actual correlation is very weak, but the weakness of that correlation is reliable. On the other hand if R is small (
@2livenoob
@2livenoob 4 жыл бұрын
When women meet men, are they looking for everything that's wrong with him or do they try to see how good of a person he is? Can you find out the answer to that? I know when I meet a woman, I try to see her positives, and how we can fit each other's life, but I feel like women are just trying to check off every flaw I may have. I'd be interested in such a video.
@guillermom8536
@guillermom8536 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, is funny how accurate that is. Most women don't feel like that have to do anything else than to look hot which made them become so low quality as a person that we try to look for something positive to give her a chance, while they have so many options that try their best to be more than a viable candidate that they pay attention more to anything that she doesn't like in you in order to not give you a chance lol
@xxcrucificioxx
@xxcrucificioxx 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes feels like a job interview, this happens when they perceive you as a provider type. they will scan you and see if its worth her investment
@roxannegreenside568
@roxannegreenside568 4 жыл бұрын
6:48 so men place a low importance on sincerity and prefer dating women who aren’t sincere and then get upset that the women they’re dating aren’t sincere enough to be honest about what they want even though that’s exactly what the men are vetting for? I’m shocked!
@Derploop
@Derploop 4 жыл бұрын
FYI, a google scholar search indicates that neither this article nor these researchers exist. Link or shut up. Methodology is extremely important here too, like how attractiveness is determined; if it's a score made after a date attractiveness correlating to second date is going to be like saying 'being an all around more attractive person, factoring in all aspects including physical appearance, is more likely to get you a second date than just having one of these aspects'. Conversely, if they're shown pictures/videos before hand and asked to rate people, they'll be more likely to put more emphasis on dates with people they've taken a liking to and will be more likely to go on a second date with people they score as more attractive anyway, before even factoring in the actual first date. I guess the only way to do it is to have a large number of straight people not participating in the dating score the attractiveness of the people of the other sex participating in the speed dating. Still, given this isn't published, I wonder whether it's going to that extent or just playing around with numbers.
@PedroTricking
@PedroTricking 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any point to this video then?
@erzfind
@erzfind 4 жыл бұрын
Link to the "article": www.kaggle.com/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating/report
@PraxicDragon
@PraxicDragon 4 жыл бұрын
WTF?! Thanks for the link
@monochromaticlightsource9153
@monochromaticlightsource9153 4 жыл бұрын
I tried Speed dating once. I found out that you go straight up to the one you fancy most, first, and if you hit it off you leave together. If there are only Doggos there, you leave. Don't waste your time!
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Labeling looks as “attractive” shows how little detail and intelligence the researchers put into this study. Attractiveness is the entire graph, which includes a sum of all traits- physical looks is one point.
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Muskoka Mike I’m saying using that term is a misleading misnomer. “Appearance” should be divided even further by style (choices someone makes) and pure physical traits (which would include height, musculature, physiognomy)
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Muskoka Mike If you don’t distinguish between expensive clothing and a handsome face, you are not differentiating between “appears wealthy” or “physical appearance” or “has a good mental sense of style.” Appearance combines a capability of acquiring resources, good genes, and artistic style. Are YOU a woman who can’t sense the distinctions here? Women assess attractiveness MORE by wealth then looks, and not differentiating these factors is misleading.
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Muskoka Mike That’s irrelevant. My point is “attraction” is stimulated by any of the variables; style, height, face, wealth, literally anything “attractive.” It shows laziness and lack of awareness to refer to physical traits as “attractive.” Being creative is “attractive” knowing the same kinds of music is “attractive”
@alaron5698
@alaron5698 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, you say that, but I think when people are asked "how highly do you rate attractiveness in your partner", they naturally understand that one is talking about physical appearance and physical presentation, not how smart they are.
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Alaron Wrong. Women don’t distinguish between PMS effecting them and what other people do to them. Let alone compartmentalizing attractiveness.
@evavidal2171
@evavidal2171 4 жыл бұрын
I am trying to catch up and I am really forced to say something. Firstly, it made me giggle... why? Because the previous video used one woman's opinion very conveniently so to make a point, this practice is far away from the truth and the same applies when we base it on statistics and data.. It always excludes... no inclusiveness of the wide variety. Now, as I watched this i asked myself how much worse can this get?? Now data is being used based on a Speed dating study wherein men and women (so no longer one individual 😉 thank you! 🌷) In my opinion it holds no value at all for these reasons: 1- It refers to a very specific demographic of men and women (does not reflect or include all men and all women- other than the ones participating, and that only reflects a limited number of people) 2- Speed dating - this itself comes to show the UNNATURAL (forceful) way of actually developing a healthy relationship between a man and a woman (could there be an exception?? probably, but surely minimal if at all) 3- The psychology behind the men and women that decide going to speed dating... is also very specific and so is the diversity in the deeper need/intention/goal/motivation... is it to experiment? Is it done from a place of desperation? Is it to look for a short term thing? Is it to just have a one night stand?? What is the person looking for in the opposite sex? I could go on with more questions! Not to mention age groups, something very important for men and women if we think about procreation purposes. The information is interesting however, taking into account all the other factors i mentioned... it just limits it to speed dating and the vast majority aren't into that. Nothing's mentioned about high and low quality men and women either and therefore it just lacks ... and frankly speaking, I do believe the value end in what men and women look for would have been different. Thank you Alex for this video, I may see other things and things differently but I do appreciate you providing this platform to share and learn! Keep at it!
@Dukyie
@Dukyie 4 жыл бұрын
LMS
@mrninet645
@mrninet645 4 жыл бұрын
Preach
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@alaron5698
@alaron5698 4 жыл бұрын
?
@Μύρων-β7τ
@Μύρων-β7τ 8 ай бұрын
Excellent work
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 4 жыл бұрын
Shared interest? I'm thinking men and women don't really have much shared interest. Shopping; just how much do men like going shopping for nothing in particular?
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 4 жыл бұрын
@Pulimuli I notice women aren't into cars, especially any kind or rebuilding. In fact they're not into any kind of equipment that amounts to anything. There's a Frisbee golf park near my house, I've never seen a group of women only playing. Mostly girlfriends that "participate". Same for rock climbing or even playing most sports where they are a very significant minority (volleyball excepted). Tennis? Hardly even though it's a sport women participate in school. I guess many get into playing music (although listening to music is too passive to count). I'll give you your due though Pulimuli, women are active joggers, so they do a few thing in common with men. Oh and the gym? Yeah, there's about a 1:8 ratio in the weight room and a 8:1 ratio in the dance studio. Although that's not exactly common interest at least both are doing something.
@discountdisco2273
@discountdisco2273 3 жыл бұрын
Litteraly any word spoken by a man: Woman: Sorry not interested! Man: I got money. Woman: I AM SPEED!
@yinhoukhor7109
@yinhoukhor7109 4 жыл бұрын
The results of this data are shocking. I never would have guessed!
@sub-zero5983
@sub-zero5983 4 жыл бұрын
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😋 I get it
@247Coby
@247Coby 4 жыл бұрын
Sar-kasm.
@drakedbz
@drakedbz 2 жыл бұрын
Ambition, intelligence, and sincerity are a bit harder to rate after a 4 minute conversation. I'm not entirely surprised those had a lower correlation. That said, if you're basing your decision whether to even try a second date in this way, it certainly does filter harder for attractiveness (first impression), so a large portion of the dating pool would fail to get a second date.
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