What Surprised Me on My First Day with the Line 6 Helix LT

[@JustinMuncy]

What’s the best way to get multiple reverbs loaded up in this thing? Also, here’s the link to the service: kzbin.infosNPOxLvQIdE?si=6bK-Hnw4JvNTrYrL

[@Jetix4273]

I don’t know if the LT has dual processing. But on the Helix my top line is all of my low dsp non-ambient effects. My gain Stages, chorus, and 3 reverbs. Then my second path. I Like the Glitz reverb for big modulated reverbs, then I use the 63 spring, and the third one changes a bunch. Second path is delays, stereo amps and Ir’s and an another reverb at the end to add room sound. LMK if this helps!

[@JustinMuncy]

@@Jetix4273 From my research, the processing on the LT is the same as the Floor.And that’s exactly how I did it. Comp, drives, and chorus on the top line. Then stereo amps on the bottom. Then I could only include 1 stereo delay and one verb after the amps… the only thing that let me add a second reverb down there was removing and amp + cab block…

[@moyperez-cortez5952]

on the first path, add a second line but keep it series. you should be able to add all your dry effects, a mono mod and 2 delays and a verb. should be able to fit your second verb and stereo amps on the 2nd path.

[@HeyWorshipLeader]

I love that comment from the FOH guy! Great video

[@JustinMuncy]

Hahaha! Jake is the MD- though I doubt the FOH engineer would say he noticed a difference either!

[@aaronthomas7790]

I just went back to the helix lt. It's the sweet spot in the hx family for me. I had the fractal fm9 and quad cortex before. They all have trade offs. The footswtich spacing, built in expression, and ability to record dry/wet and edit with helix native for recording is just a great package for live and recording.

[@JustinMuncy]

Nice!!! You’ve tried almost all of them! And I agree, they all have their trade offs. I did really enjoy using HX edit to build presets. That definitely sped up the process for me.

[@claytonmurrayguitar]

I had an LT for a while, I really loved it! I was terrible at making my own presets, but I'd pull up any Worship Tutorials presets and loved most of them. Their free AC30 preset is so good. I've used the QC for over a year now and I've finally gotten my ear used to it within the last few months and have got some great sounding presets now, but it took longer to get a good sound on the QC than it did on the Helix to me. I also think the Helix wet effects are better than the ones in the QC! I'm in love with my QC now but would be totally happy with a Helix if I had to use that instead.

[@JustinMuncy]

Interesting!! Yeah, I feel like the Helix amps take more tweaking out of the box to sound great than the QC, but their wet FX are top notch! Especially the delays! Those were really inspiring to use.

[@isaacwilliams153]

I went from Helix to Quad Cortex. The main thing I miss from Helix is as you said, the delays. The delays in QC just are not up to par. I love the capture tech, but the L6 modeling is incredible

[@noahfickel]

Killer video dude! Shoutout to Jake! lol

[@JustinMuncy]

Thank you!! Jake is the man!! ✌🏻

[@picksalot1]

I've used an HX Stomp for 4 years. If you find the Presets too bright and/or the trebles too harsh, go to the Cab Block and turn down the High Cut Parameter to about 5Khz so it matches the real Guitar Amp Speaker's Frequency Response. Switching Mics in the Cab Block is another fast way to get the sound into the ballpark for what you want.

[@JustinMuncy]

Those are good tips!! I had an EQ cutting some low and high end on my preset!

[@ododm1]

When you use stereo amps, put an amp on each row because path 1 and path 2 has its own dsp so and amps and wet effects take up the most amount of dsp

[@JustinMuncy]

I was trying to do that! I think I’ll just have to figure out how to adjust the routing to line 3. On the QC, you can just draw in splits but on the Helix, it seems like you have to have a FX block on the secondary line to get a split to appear?

[@ododm1]

@@JustinMuncy yeah you have to drag an already existing block and drag it for it to pop up. On the Helix LT, you can only have up to two paths so you will be able to get away with most effects you want in a worship pedalboard

[@JustinMuncy]

@@ododm1 I’m pretty sure you can have 4 on the LT just like the floor! I was able to get secondary paths on both the top and bottom lines. I just think it’s a little clunky that you can’t draw in the paths.

[@Monkeydoge]

i’m at the beginning of switching from helix to QC. I picked up the meris mercX and GFI solis ventus to handle reverb and delay for me. i literally just wanted the big helix, but smaller and lighter to carry one board to church

[@JustinMuncy]

Oh nice! I think having a helix plus pedals on a board would be pretty large wouldn’t it? Definitely bigger than any board I’ve had haha!! But if it feels portable to you, then why not? Unless you’re saying you used pedals with the QC. Then that would be pretty portable. I bet either sounds awesome!!

[@Mike.D.Martinez]

I want that link to the service setlist! 😂🔥

[@JustinMuncy]

@@Mike.D.Martinez Here you go! kzbin.infosNPOxLvQIdE?si=6bK-Hnw4JvNTrYrL

[@DevinBellROCKS]

Get yourself some worship tutorials patches and make copies and tweak them to sound like you. Also get some tasty Tonejunkie IRs!!! I just got a Helix LT too!

[@leavingsoulsBO]

Looking at your preset, I think you could put one of the two amps on the first row and leave more dsp on the second. Plus using IRs saves some dsp too

[@JustinMuncy]

Thank you!! I was actually trying to do that but couldn’t figure out the routing at the time. On the QC you can just draw in a split but on the Helix, it seems like you have to drag an FX block onto the secondary line in order for a split to appear?

[@leavingsoulsBO]

@@JustinMuncy Yes, unfortunately you have to do that and it's a lot easier using the editor software than the unit itself

[@NOTANOTHERTRANSFORMERSCHANNEL]

I have a Sire T7 and Sire T3 modded with Seymour Broadcaster pickups with the Helix LT. I got on my Helix LT the Z-Wreck and TK Imperial amps from Worship Tutorials and I think 3rd party captures really unlock this unit.

[@JustinMuncy]

Cool!! Yeah, their stuff seems pretty solid! I’m one of those, “I gotta max out what I can make the internal stuff do first” kind of guys. That’s how I really learned the QC. I forced myself to make it work.

[@NOTANOTHERTRANSFORMERSCHANNEL]

@@JustinMuncy For sure, I did that with their Tone King plugin and I'm blown away.

[@schlagdog]

Helix floor is still my favorite unit. I didnt really care for the QC being so small it the touch screen. I really love scribble strips. I sold both and a just waiting to see if a new helix comes out with more DSP soon. L6 has changed there amp modeling and effects modeling. All the new amps and effects take up more DSP so you might be mad you got that LT because it’s about time for a new HelixX or something.

[@JustinMuncy]

Interesting! I love the touchscreen and the size of the QC! It was pretty ideal for touring and the gigs I was doing when I got it. And that could be! I didn’t buy the Helix to replace my rig, so I wouldn’t be that upset. The LT was only a touch more in price than the stomp, so it’s a great value!

[@schlagdog]

@ I don’t really like the small form factor and no scribble strips which I know is opposite of most people. Helix has a weird feel to the high gain amp models that ends up annoying me. I’ve owned 3 and in the end can’t deal with it. That being said I still have helix native and the new amp models and effects from the last year are a completely different type of modeling that are way more DSP heavy and way better sounding and a new one has to be made soon. Kemper can get away with nothing new forever but a modeling platform 10 years old outlived itself.

[@aaronkerr2481]

2048 IRs use the least DSP of all the cab models. Legacy Stereo Delay is pretty small too. Maybe that'll help squeeze another reverb in?

[@JustinMuncy]

Good tips!! Does that delay have modulation parameters? That’s the key for me!

[@aaronkerr2481]

@@JustinMuncy Stereo : Mod Chorus Echo is probably what you're looking for

[@Tool0GT92]

We usually build tones we like so not shocking it will sound similar. I always struggle keeping the tone clean once you stack effects.

[@JustinMuncy]

@@Tool0GT92 Definitely. I think how we play affects it too. Maybe you’re adding a bit too much level somewhere in your signal path that’s causing it to clip?

[@Tool0GT92]

@ it’s not clipping it usually gets muddy or too thin. Of course I find the more time you listen the worse it starts to sound, then you come back the next day and you like it.

[@Joe-vc2cc]

Just an observation; you sound like a young Tobey Flenderson

[@Monkeydoge]

also i maybe i missed it, but why’d you make the jump? did you sell the QC?

[@JustinMuncy]

I entered the transfer portal last month… just kidding! I didn’t make a switch or sell my QC. I wanted to try the platform and make content around it and I got a really great deal on it!

[@raldtechtv1251]

you can just use 2 drives then adjust the amp gain on the snapshot to save you some space..

[@JustinMuncy]

That’s a good tip!! I did try moving things around on the bottom row and the only thing that seemed to allow me a second verb was removing one of my amp + cab blocks.

[@happyniss24]

Watch out quad cortex😮

[@JustinMuncy]

Hahaha! 😂 ❤️

[@musicafteroldage]

#1 Welcome to the Helix family LOL #2 Careful! You are going to get canceled for saying the truth, that in the mix they sound pretty much the same! LOL

[@JustinMuncy]

Hahaha thank you!! Right off of the bat, I’d say the QC amps sound a little better, but I’d give an edge on the delays to the Helix. That could just be user error on my part though. I think it really boils down to preference. Both are great!

[@musicafteroldage]

@@JustinMuncy That's what I've always heard: amps are ok, but FX are great. Good thing is that you can "correct" any dislike with some tweaking and maybe some IRs. Gotta love technology!

[@lowercase3635]

This is not helping me hold on to my individual pedals 😂

[@JustinMuncy]

@@lowercase3635 LOL!! I think pedals are great too- but I sure don’t miss patch cables…

[@lowercase3635]

@@JustinMuncy I like making them. There’s just something about twisting all those knobs that’s primal. I hate menu diving in line 6 products but man they all sound consistently good.

[@AEP2x]

I think you downgraded, lol. I'll piss off the Helix Fanbois, but it's the truth in reality. To have enough DSP for a preset you want to build you probably need the full Helix not LT, and still not as powerful as QC.

[@JustinMuncy]

The DSP between the Floor and LT models are the same!

[@AEP2x]

@ ok, it's been awhile since I looked at the specs of both, but thought I remembered the LT had less. I like the a helix effects so I would have just bought an HX effects to use with the QC. They are almost the same size and fit nicely in a board together.