What tf happened to Apple Vision Pro?

[@Millicente]

Too expensive with no controllers for current VR enthusiasts, too expensive for average consumers

[@snekoyl]

It doesn't even have controllers?? Insane, what a joke

[@mathieul4303]

And it’s ugly af and not convenient

[@ZeallustImmortal]

​@@mathieul4303All HMDs are ugly and inconvenient wym

[@wintermintmojo2418]

This is the biggest mistake apple made with that headset. Allowing people to think it was aimed at the VR market. It never was and especially not VR gamers. It was supposed to be taking market share from the Hololens or Magic Leap. Everything about their stated use cases and dev kit points to this being an AR headset primarily and a XR headset secondarily. But apple in all their hubris thought they could release the hardware then users and devs would flock to it to build their use cases and apps for them.

[@maiqtheliar2]

Too expensive for professionals since it's so locked down you can't use it with the standard suite of professional VR software /Work with VR and we have 6 of them. They're barely used except for very specific Unity applications we build ourselves and have a very small need for

[@TheBenduOrder]

For $3000 you can buy decent PC and 'take control of the world' from your sofa

[@agronnak]

For 3K you can buy a giga high end pc xD and you can actually do stuff on it

[@chaisewhitlock1717]

@@agronnakcame looking for this. Lol

[@Flegado]

And a quest3 with cable

[@transformerstuff7029]

3k you can get a PC and VR glasses to play games on.......

[@fight4ourright306]

3000$ you can get a great gaming VR laptop that you can take anywhere and play. I bought mine for 1,800 and its ran great for over 10 years and plays anything on the ultra specs without lag.

[@PCPAyLOAD]

The price tag is what happened to the Vision Pro.

[@transformerstuff7029]

I'd buy it at that price if it had actuall functionality or could be used to make something professionally.

[@PaballoKobe-xh9ve]

Ypu wanna wear that all day everyday?

[@transformerstuff7029]

@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve why would you have to wear it all day every day?

[@PaballoKobe-xh9ve]

@transformerstuff7029 how much do you use your phone or gaming pc. The purpose of this isbtobreplace a phone.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

​@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve too heavy. Immobile.

[@Lula-Palmer]

You mean a $3000 pair of ridiculous goggles didn't fly off the shelves? I am shocked.

[@gorrvaskr5963]

To be fair there are people spending $$$ on ski goggles on the side of their head while living in California

[@RheaLifeOC]

@@gorrvaskr5963 Well but they will use it more than people used the apple vision.

[@HeyWeiiHey]

U know they just aim it to "the so called entry level" or people who're bad with money... There's definitely someone who Take up loans up to the neck just to have this...

[@enchantededition6879]

Their overpriced shite phones fly off the shelves

[@ShadowbannedAccount]

To be fair, this product has never been intended to "sell well". I think this is basically Apple charging morons $3500 to beta test the device lmao, so they can find good and bad things about the device, so they can improve it in the future.

[@daledevernon56]

At $3500 you are paying for the privilege of being a beta tester for Apple.

[@Asdfasdf-k8v]

VR headsets I think are still too heavy & uncomfortable for mass adoption. But it’s getting there, give it a few more years 😂

[@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43]

Quest 3 offers the best solution as of now. Better weight distribution + thin lenses made it much more bearable, not too far off from desktop use. Quest 2 was unacceptable on that front. You can't wear that thing for more than 3 hours before your forehead begin to go necrotic

[@bodiaz1]

What happened? It was too expensive

[@luisguerreiro8721]

i that's the only thing about it . I like the look and the specs and what it was made for ...but the PRICE ?? wtf

[@anonymous134y]

they were looking to make a buck vs releasing it to industries that need it like hololens

[@crisisasp5396]

@@luisguerreiro8721 personally not a fan of the looks but thats just me, the actual tech its self is pretty impressive but its just way too expensive for what you get

[@GigglingStoners]

It was too expensive and served no purpose.

[@FrVitoBe]

lol its apple its already too expensive, that doesnt with hold people getting an iphone xD

[@TurtleChad1]

People don't want to waste $3000 on a device with barely any functionality

[@ddog9301]

Exactly. This didn't really require a 12 minute video to analyze.

[@anonymous134y]

they were looking to make a buck vs releasing it to industries that need it like hololens is doing with design, hospitals, military etc. They were aiming for their typical dumb hollywood blonde target and missed huge.

[@MarquisDeSang]

People pay 3000 for a flat TV, this is a 1000000000 feet 8k TV

[@StratumPress]

@@MarquisDeSang lol You can't possibly believe that. I paid $1000 for a 75" TV four years ago. You can get them for around $750 now.

[@hapwn]

That contraption is no where near finished, but that's by design, so they can milk us for everything they can get!

[@JoeCensored]

For AR, people mostly just want an RPG or FPS hud without much more than wearing regular glasses.

[@Callimero002]

Top right minimap, bottom right ammo, bottom left inventory. That's all we need

[@hajimakairu5451]

​@@Callimero002NOOOOOOOO BIG TECH WANTS TO BREACH YOUR PRIVACY!!!!! DON'T TELL THEM WHAT'S IN YOUR INVENTORY!!!! THEY ALREADY HAVE YOUR HEALTH BAR!!!!

[@jjansen5839]

@@Callimero002this 100%

[@ryanminaker157]

It's like hologram tech. Sometimes when there's a box in the room I almost want to sit on it.

[@kukuki5000]

@@Callimero002 *top-left minimap, top-right HP

[@Dr.Dementor]

Wake me up when VR is so advanced that i just have to lie around and i can feel, smell and taste things. Until then, it's just a controller in my hands and a screen slapped right in front of my eyes.

[@therandomcommenter6629]

Haptic suits exist and are purchasable while smell and taste are in the testing phase

[@MerKilla]

Wake me up when Sword Art Online becomes reality. (If you know what that is. also minus the whole die in game die in real life thing. Lol)

[@VRGamercz]

What you are describing is not VR. What you are describing is some sort of simulator of a star trek. Maybe in couple of decades with chips in our brains this level of simulation could be possible.

[@Sunke89]

What an expensive way to fry your brain with overstimulation

[@alaska2026]

And destroy your eyes as a bonus

[@zoubeirfaouzi149]

Cyberpsycho

[@PG-fy2ck]

@@alaska2026 I have a VR set from 6 years ago and i don't have 40 hours on them.... cant stand more than 1h on them :D

[@m3tapHysiCaL_GrAfFiTi]

What year in the 1950s did you just time travel from?

[@Sunke89]

@@m3tapHysiCaL_GrAfFiTi Hey it's medically proven overstimulation via screens and sounds actually damages brain tissue permamently, You can thrill your brain to death, no joke.

[@crazygeek6319]

Never buy a first generation product especially tech products regardless of the producers

[@cameronwilliams3092]

That's how products die. You need early adopters so we can get version 2

[@not-a-lot-of-options]

@@cameronwilliams3092 Agreed. "Never" is a very strong word and not appropriate here. A good caveat is if you are an enthusiast of the field or product. I got the Oculus DK1, DK2, then the first Quest when it came out, because I love the potential of VR and I wanted to contribute to its development. And while I feel a little burned that Oculus was bought by Facebook, I don't regret it. I still contributed to the development of the tech, and I got hundreds of hours of fun out of it. As always, think before you spend and don't just buy stuff because it's fancy and new.

[@Telhias]

I wouldn't even call it a first generation product. There were many generations of VR headsets before Apple's. This product didn't really pioneer anything in the field. It was simply a product failed from the start. Apple tried (and failed by cutting corners) to make the highest fidelity headset for the highest price. That is already an extremely narrow target audience. They did that and then didn't offer them enough functionality to stay. Apple had spent on it more than enough money to develop some interesting apps. How about face recognition overlay with your custom notes floating around the person in question? How about giving it ability to recognize famous people showing a short summary about the person scraped from wikipedia? That would've been cool, futuristic and engaging enough to make users want to come back. You could make an app where people around you have a filter applied to their person. Make your fellow enthusiasts look like their designed avatars (I am pretty sure that the furry community would be very interested in that). There are plenty of ideas of cool apps that could be made if they wished to. iPhone was a first generation product and it succeeded. It's business plan was perfect. What killed this product was not being first gen but simply that you had no reason to use it beyond a gimmick that is fulfilled by much less expensive competition.

[@crazygeek6319]

@@cameronwilliams3092 early adaptation is a previlage tho not everyone has 3.5k$ to spend on a product that they try for couple of weeks then never use again

[@crazygeek6319]

@@Telhias they relied too much on their reputation made it so expensive look and feel ridiculous so people would view it as a fashion statement like the "supreme crowbar" for example like 1k$ wheels without providing a backing on the software end they got cocky after the relative "success" to the ear pods max they're too heavy they're too expensive for the sound quality nor as practical as most competitors "no off button" even the watch has off button but wireless earphones doesn't? It's one of the most important features of a headset how much battery it has

[@lifeliver001]

-No apps -No games -Too expensive -Meta is not spatial computer but it’s way cheaper and has tons of games that you can play without a PC or with PC up, to you. -Design doesn’t matter that much, look at the PS5

[@Raptorialand]

Quest 3 is superior. I play/use vr since 2018. Imagine my face when i saw the trailer of this dumb apple product with no controllers for that price. WTF

[@victorchen9170]

@@Raptorialand Look I love the quest 3 as well, but it doesn't even come close to the vision pro

[@ec5838]

@@victorchen9170 You're right, the Quest 3 exceeds it in almost every metric, leaving the apple garbage in the dust. Apple has always been, and will forever be... dog shit.

[@spikespiegel9919]

what do you think spatial computing is

[@jacks1bonnielass]

@@ec5838 I agree with you on the Vision Pro but not on iPhones lol If I could buy the new Samsung Z fold and put iOS on it, I’d buy it in a heartbeat (and I’m sure ppl have figured out ways to do it). I’ve had Samsung, LG, and iPhones. The Apple ecosystem is way more cohesive and the UI is far easier to use imo, I prefer it over Android-based phones esp since I can access ANYTHING on my iPhone/iCloud on my Mac without me physically connecting or going through 4-5 steps to do it.

[@Upright777]

Asmon is right. If the Apple Vision Pro could read power levels it would've sold.

[@rwberger6]

It would just be a sea of 4s and 5s.

[@SuperRedNovaDragon]

The scouter can do more than just reading power levels though.

[@andyespinozam]

When there’s an app with face recognition that lets you put scores on people on the street, they it will sell.

[@AleydisZeta]

😂🤣😂 Gold 🎯💯

[@wulfrache]

Asmon is right, showers are unnecessary.

[@supermaster2012]

Apple didn't discontinue the Vision Pro, they simply stopped production of new units because they have plenty of stock. VisionOS still gets regular updates and you can buy the headset from the Apple Store right now.

[@supermaster2012]

@ that is completely false, Vision Pro 2 is scheduled for 2025.

[@nimhja5951]

7:32 Altered Carbon showcased exactly this example in the first episode. MC literally needed an add blocker provided by another character because the adds were so numerous he couldnt function.

[@dreamdeckup]

man did that series go downhill once they replaced the protagonist

[@lastjuror3292]

Don't forget guys people still buy the mac stand for 1000$

[@SovietsniperYT]

That plus the $400 wheels for the Mac Pro towers.

[@mbvx7]

1. the people that buy that $1000 stand are companies will Millions of dollars budget for HIGH END video editing. The monitor that requires that is $6000. If you can buy a $6000 32: monitor, the $1000 stand is chump change. You do know Sony sells a 32" REFERENCE TV for calibration that cost $20,000 and they buy those too. Sony BVM-HX310 31" 4K HDR TRIMASTER HX Professional Master Monitor. google it.

[@mbvx7]

@@SovietsniperYT They don't even sell that anymore and stopped selling it over 3 years ago.

[@MolgeraIsTheBoss]

​@@mbvx7there's actually a $700 version on the apple store right now.

[@jshreyas1882]

Don't forget about Apple CHEESE GRATER PC😅

[@Tirfing88]

"what went wrong?" price. There, saved you half an hour

[@timfisher1588]

But I needed that half hour to waste. Ugh!

[@mencibenci]

high price + close to zero utility

[@kaydens6964]

@@mencibenciit can’t be worse than the 999 stand

[@victorchen9170]

@@mencibenci Define zero utility?

[@EnraiChannel]

@@victorchen9170 Why pay +3k for something that phone does better?

[@PaballoKobe-xh9ve]

Steve jobs on a plane: i wish i could watch tv on my phone then listen to music Tim cook sonewhere in a board meeting: goggles

[@VivekYadav-ds8oz]

I don't think "looking dumb" would really be an issue. That's a problem to be solved exclusively by the smart AR glasses. These are not meant to be worn out in public. I see their future more in productivity/professional applications, where you use them to have multiple applications in your vision, or have better colour accuracy, or lock in and fade out the real world, or have better graph visualisation by having 3D graphs laid out, etc. etc.

[@Rubafix989]

Before the failure of the Vision pro, in the prosumer space there were google glasses and microsoft hololens. Devices that targeted games were more successful.

[@mauiwowie3538]

"A Mac Book would last you a lifetime" Bro gimme this dudes drug dealers number, or is this statement a product of Galaxy Gas? asking for a friend.

[@rud3y1]

No games, no apps, no controllers, 10x the price of a quest3. And dude narrating the video calls it a technological revolution 🤷‍♂️

[@DatNooit]

Well… it is.. but it’s to expensive to make, so to expensive to buy as well. That also means theirs barely any users so app developers are not really interested in making apps. We still have no idea what they will do with the product in the future.

[@Lord_Cointoss]

The first problem is the price. The second... is that there is nothing to connect this thing with. Neither to a PC nor to a console. no apps, no development! no point. And without this it is useless.

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

It's an Apple product so you were never going to be able to do something cool with it

[@leadfarmer5563]

I’m not defending the vison pro. However, you can connect it to a Mac mini wirelessly ,with no monitor and use it as a monitor/side car

[@propersod2390]

you can look at a macbook screen to begin projecting that screen in your field of view and work using the laptop keyboard+trackpad but on a much larger virtual screen

[@veldyved114]

i use it connected to my macbook then I project the screen onto the ceiling and just work while lying in couch

[@vrgirl4454]

@@veldyved114 Dude, I built my own avp app. [NOC NOK], you can watch 3D, panoramic video online, the content is also very rich. Give it your support.

[@IRIICIK.]

I'm happy this came out. It made the quest 3 way better with all the additional updates.

[@Tenkin42]

yeah, and a lot a companies copy it for half the price

[@namenloss730]

I work with a quest 3, it has issues... serious issues... I have a hard time believing it was released and not yet patched, so many glitches

[@LukeMartin-qi5uh]

​@@namenloss730? It gets major updates every month. What update has glitches on it? What features?

[@jacks1bonnielass]

@@namenloss730 Exactly what are you talking about? What specific issues?

[@Thegooob95]

@@namenloss730check for updates, v71 is awesome and the issues of passthrough and hand tracking have been radically improved. I’ll be using mine for work too once I get my pc

[@robertweekes5783]

2 words: _NO CONTROLLERS_ Why leave out the entire VR gaming market ?!

[@4zoreal]

probably isn't mentioned in the video, but this diabolic device has 2 (two) 4k displays inside it, practically, from what i can remember. now imagine what kind of hardware it would require to be a gaming device. bet its part of a reason why it was never positioned as a gaming device at all.

[@Jordan_C_Wilde]

@@4zoreal So? Render it at half or quarter resolution. It just cut down on potential customers.

[@4zoreal]

@@Jordan_C_Wilde well what's the point then if it does it in same or actually worse quality than quest 3? While quest 3 also cost ten times less and has higher refresh rate (90 vs 120, if i recal right) even if you theoretically use it as a PC VR and render it on PC, there are PC VR headsets that would likely do it better.

[@neppuneptunia]

@@4zoreal my vr headset is 4k per eye

[@kusumapau8883]

you know, mark zuckerberg might be wrong about his meta world, but one thing he & his meta team got it right is their quest headset, absolute insane value for their price

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

Its only "their headset" in so far as they bought occulus. I don't give them much credit for that.

[@buddyrodgers3999]

@@JETBLACKPRIEST Was about to post the same thing, but you beat me to the punch.

[@alternative_five]

me as a VR enthusiast KNEW IT WAS GONNA FAIL. we all KNEW it wasnt just that it was expensive. it was basically that it serves no purpose at all. at least if it were to be an AR and VR headset there would be a LOT of other things you could do but no. it was just a extremely expensive and limited AR headset lol i remember seen how many apple fanboys were so "excited" for this and they were all acting like Apple created AR and for 1/8 of the price you could get some Quest 2 or 3 and could do waaaay more with those than with this thing lol

[@picketf]

for about half its price you could get a Quest VR AND an omnidirectional treadmill. 😅 Basically VR stopped evolving with Quest 2. Nothing on the market has progressed ever since

[@johnaspaul]

Yeah Quest 3 or Picco 4 Ultra are much cheaper and better, the get a badass MiniPC for 2 K USDand you are set for 5 years minimum.

[@alternative_five]

@@johnaspaul Exactly. with that amount of money you could get a decent headset and a decent PC as well!!

[@cawashka]

As a "VR enthusiast" you shouldn’t be denying that the headset is pretty damn incredible for a VR device from a hardware perspective alone

[@johnaspaul]

@@cawashka how is separately carrying your battery pack with less than 2 hours of capacity "incredible from a hardware point of view", when others present the power-supply in seamless manner.

[@jakdexter2075]

They think anything futuristic should be expensive. Forgetting that the majority of population aren’t rich. But mid to poor.

[@BeKaws420]

Because they don't live in the real world, they thought people were going to max out credit cards for this useless junk

[@victorchen9170]

Think you're forgetting it wasn't meant to be marketed towards the "majority of the population"

[@TheMastertbc]

@@victorchen9170 well there goes your profit

[@fly8668]

​@@TheMastertbc they never expected it to be a huge success. Everyone knew that at 3500$ this was never going to sell a lot of units. This is going to be a slow burn product line that will accumulate features and content and drop in price over time, over years not months.

[@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375]

Majority of population are mid, that's literally what "mid" is used for.

[@BryantAvant]

The problem is that it’s not useful yet. It’s a gimmick until it can do everything your phone can except better.

[@bdhale34]

I'd like my phone to be better at being a phone again, seems the betetr they get at everything else the worse they are at being actual phones.

[@victorchen9170]

Why is it not useful? It's essentially an AR macbook.

[@BryantAvant]

@bdhale34 not sure if I agree. Yeah the AI stuff is gimmicking right now but my phone is still the most important tool in my life and business.

[@BryantAvant]

@@victorchen9170 because it's an uncomfortable cumbersome way to use your MacBook. Are you going to use it for 8 hours a day for work?

[@BryantAvant]

@@victorchen9170 it's uncomfortable and cumbersome at best. Nobody would replace their MacBook with it and wear it 8 hours a day for work.

[@sevenfacedsin]

Apple screwed up bad with this one. My wife’s stepdad worked for Apple for quite a while. High up the food chain in the iPhone battery division up to the iPhone 11. He explained to me that Apple is basically an experience first, hardware second company. Which completely changed how I view their stuff. I don’t think they asked themselves who this experience would be for. Old Timmy just wanted something pushed out the door to line investor pockets. The overall vision of Steve is slowly being lost or pushed to the side.

[@mapsofbeing5937]

from a family insider working fairly high on the big data backend of big gaming studios, the hype internally was so strong that all the industry got excited about developping on it Then as the Vision Pro came around, it sucked so much compared to the promise that most projects got cancelled, not only that but it killed the VR industry's optimism and threw back the development cycle years, it'll be a while before devs give VR another serious chance yet

[@armondtanz]

People aint gonna sit there with their hands up in the air, try it for 10 min it gets so annoying. You come home from work, change into lounge wear , sit on sofa grab you phone and rest your arms on you legs, your lap, the arm of the chair. No one is coming home and conducting an orchestra for 3 or 4 hours!

[@GoldenBoy.17]

Why wouldn't they develop for PCVR and Quest 3? The only limitation to VR popularity is the lack of mainstream videogames. I think the technology is mature enough where it can start having its first big budget productions.

[@jonmc6573]

Vision Pro is AR not VR

[@mapsofbeing5937]

@@jonmc6573 right sorry that's not what I said but that what i meant, killed the AR optimism for the foreseeable future

[@Vratiss]

@@armondtanz "conducting an orchestra for 3 or 4 hours" lol well said

[@isoinisolation1795]

I told everyone "This will be the new Google Glass"

[@tu1469]

Ah yes, seemed amazing and cool and was a huge flop.. I remember everyone back then was freaked out about being secretly filmed and nobody every came around to get it

[@kajms222]

This is not a Glass Situation. V2 is not cancelled, and an "Air" Product is allegedly also still in the works, even if it comes later than the Pro 2 (or whatever they will call it). Another difference is, the product is fine enough. It does some things better than it's competition, others worse. It's just not worth paying this much money for. Google Glass was just a shit product all around.

[@namenloss730]

no, google glasses were dogsh*t equipment at an inflated price. vision pro is fairly priced extremely good equiment that nobody needs

[@jimlthor]

​@@namenloss730Could you even buy them? I thought they just had people wearing them around as beta testers, and they never went to market

[@aurimasb1732]

Word

[@Reginald_Harrison]

For $3,500 it’d had to be a game changer. It turned out to be a less useful version of existing VR headsets for more than 3x the price. Using it to watch movies is silly since it only has a 2 hour battery life and you could buy a high end 80” OLED for less money that your friends and family can watch at the same time.

[@victorchen9170]

Not sure why people are clowning on the battery life, when the Quest 3 literally has the exact same battery life.

[@Sennodev]

@@victorchen9170it’s also cheaper too…

[@vintner_]

@@victorchen9170 The quest 3 is literally 6x cheaper, so that's why.

[@quercus3290]

would rather water cool 2 4090's and build AI waifu's lol.

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

​@@victorchen9170 apple bros are usually dumb , but it's because you can get a meta quest for like 150 bucks dude. We expect our premium products to actually be premium.

[@Wawaaaaaa825]

why spend $3500 for the vision pro when you can spend $300 for a quest that does more?

[@victorchen9170]

The quest ain't that good. Worse passthrough, fov, hand tracking.

[@filmk]

@@victorchen9170 the hand tracking is better on the meta quest, what are you talking about 😂😂😂

[@victorchen9170]

@@filmk Sure sure

[@MyAnalyser]

​@@victorchen9170 I would take a quest over the Apple Vision Pro any day of the week, even if the AVP was HALF the price of the Quest 3. The AVP is like the 3DO or the Philips CD-I, an expensive device without any useful applications on it. The quest at least has thousands of apps and games on it, many of which are quite fun.

[@gamingsergeant6632]

Explain the passthrough part.

[@mikedelgrande5296]

The problem was the price and that it was inconvenient. This product will have to be MUCH more convenient to use and MUCH cheaper if it’s to ever catch on. For $3500 I could have the most powerful consumer level PC possible. The Vision Pro IS incredible. But it’s just not practical. Make this same product so that I can’t tell I’m wearing it and no one else can either, and for half the price and maybe then it would catch on. Also need WAY more battery life. The tech just isn’t there yet. We need much better and smaller batteries, much smaller and more powerful tech, and some new and innovative way to implement it.

[@vvortex3]

This product is doing fine despite all the hate coming from people that have not tried it, and people that are seeking social media views.

[@WindmillGS]

Within VRChat communities, there were several Twitter fights over this turd. Some hyped the crap out of it, some (like myself) saw 0 potential in what was obvious $3.5k paperweight. And the ones defending it were saying "well it's not for consumers it's for developers to make apps for the consumer version!", but even they went silent after a month or two. The only time I saw anything about it again since the release, was that someone sideloaded app on it to use it as PCVR headset. With that same two hour battery life. Same as what you'd get from something like Quest 3 for like 1/7th of the price. Oh and you still needed Valve Index controllers (or HTC ones), external tracker to attach to AVP to have tracking in VR, and at least two base stations for tracking controllers and tracker.

[@Thegooob95]

The potential with Vision Pro is related to what it does for the industry, not the product itself. Everyone knew this was a dev device but the fact that it exists pushed meta to fix their software and compete. For example, Apple claimed 3d spatial video, and meta responded with the same thing. Now I can use my iPhone to record spatial videos. Meta had to update their hand tracking and pass through. They had to update their lens software for better blacks. Apple claimed that you could look at your Mac and instantly bring its content into the spatial world, Mets responded and now has Remote Desktop built in which does the exact same thing for windows pc. I bought a windows pc in part of this. Apple will continue to make headsets but it’s not a shocker they discontinued this one.

[@elliotw4606]

I never understood the "it's for developers" argument. Like ... WHAT??? So it's for... B2B... Where TF is the consumer??? So businesses stupid enough to buy them to make apps that will .. not ever actually be used bc it's basically a never ending beta... That's the customer? Please don't bail them out. Please. I beg.

[@smokeythebeast8288]

Of course this thing was doomed to fail it is a VR headset that doesn't game. This was a dead device they tried selling to the public but unfortunately for them the Normal public are not Developers

[@nycionx8328]

Do u guys forget Apples $1000 monitor stand? 😂

[@DustinBigMac]

Dont forgot those damn wheels

[@Telwyn-g4z]

I thought that was a joke at first, but knowing apple i had to look it up..... yup $1300 CAD. The stand is somehow 2x the price of a Meta Quest 3. Just freaking wow!

[@jackinthebox1817]

$600 Mac case wheels

[@randomkitty2555]

I remember that some people even defended the price in reviews.

[@alaska2026]

😂 ​@@randomkitty2555

[@shadowsketch926]

i talked about the price to functionality ratio in a server, and was just met with "it's just not for you" but they never answered the question i posed of "who's it for then?" good to see more people waking up to apple's garbage practices.

[@centerfield6339]

They just aren't in the server business, and don't want to be. They only sell them because they might as well gouge people who run CI/CD platforms that want to support building iOS apps.

[@porkmancer]

The 2 hour max battery life and the recharge time are by design btw. What a lot of people don't realise is that your eyes need to focus on objects at various distances for proper function. If you set your eyes to a fixed depth for more than 2-3 hours at a time you can cause long term damage to your eyesight. Having a 2 hours battery and a rest period are good things.

[@ThanhTung-jx1io]

Let ME decide what's best for MY eyes

[@mikegilgenbach4840]

They never intended this to be a wide release final product. This was a development release. They were testing this amongst the public who were willing to buy it.

[@Jorge78712]

You have to spend around $8,700-$10,000 to develop a vision pro app with unity, this is why there is no apps at all. $2100 a year to develop an app using Unity game engine $100 a year to deploy apps in the app store $3500 for the vision pro $3000 for a Silicon Mac (you can’t develop Vision Pro apps using the latest intel MacBook Pro from 2020) Prices changes between countries (sales tax or VAT) in the USA the Vision Pro is "cheap".

[@Carman_Voice_of_Distortion]

These are not really a problem if you have a big enough customer base. Movies and AAA Games are also expensive as hell to make. Develop Cost were never the problems

[@nirorit]

@@Carman_Voice_of_Distortionthey where always the problem for any company ever what? Especially when most of the apps in your app store were developed by small studios.

[@Carman_Voice_of_Distortion]

@nirorit Not sure what you are saying. I'm guessing you are talking about small studios are the real workers/MVP of smart products? Like I said, it's just simple supply and demands. No customers, no developers willing to risk. 10000 is not that much for senior developers. Even just 1 person can afford it.

[@Jorge78712]

​@@Carman_Voice_of_Distortion I see your point, but I believe $10k is quite a hefty investment for anyone, especially when there are cost-effective alternatives available. As a senior web/mobile/VR developer, I can earn $10k in a month, but it’s still a significant amount, particularly considering the Unity Pro price. For many indie developers, creating apps on other platforms can be done for free or at a minimal yearly cost ($0-$100 a year). You are right, though, that without a solid customer base, no one will want to risk $10k per seat. This is for early adopters.

[@dumoneyyy]

Every issue it had came second to the main problem it had. It was too expensive

[@cecollins68]

Exactly more apps will be made if more consumers buy the product, because the devs have a higher chance to make money, but because theres nobody using it why would anyone develop for a dead platform? It's the same issue with PCVR most people can only buy a headset but not the P.C hardware to run it, which is why most VR devs left steam and develop exclusively for the inferior meta quest platform.

[@therustedmonkie4787]

0:44 Dreamcast mentioned!

[@KnullenVoid-c7i]

We did it, Reddit!!! 😀

[@micahgmiranda]

Except the Dreamcast was $199, so not in the same universe.

[@therustedmonkie4787]

@@micahgmiranda $199 in 1998/2000 was a substantial purchase.

[@micahgmiranda]

@therustedmonkie4787 for reference, PS2 and XBOX were 299

[@BowChicaHonkHonk1]

Dreamcast, psp and gamegear i feel personally attacked

[@PowerfulRift]

I guess you could say Tim got Cooked! 🔥

[@jetlorider]

Nappa- "Vegeta...how much is a price on a Apple Vision Pro?" Vegeta- "it's over $3000!!!!"

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

Price, Meta is a few hundred bucks and has a large game library. I’m a dev and no one wants to put these things on, especially the C-Suite folks.

[@namenloss730]

I work in computer graphics research and virtual reality. I think the apple vision pro is fairly priced for the quality of the equipment. It has very high resolution cameras, depth sensors, 8k screens per eye, and unlike basically all other vr headsets: it's a laptop not a phone cpu. It's the best headset I have ever tried by far But... Nobody needs that outside of some very specific professional applications

[@vrgirl4454]

Dude, I built my own avp app. [NOC NOK], you can watch 3D, panoramic video online, the content is also very rich. Give it your support.

[@SkrappyIE]

All you had to do was look at Microsoft Holo Lens to know that the Apple Vision Pro was going to fail. Not surprised one bit.

[@MaxLittleBuddy]

It's not just the price You can't watch adult only content or even KZbin with that because there is no sideloading. You can't connect it to PC to play PC VR games. It's heavy that they have to detach the battery from the headset. Let's not forget you have to own or borrow an iphone to scan your face before buying it.

[@deadeyejac]

The biggest barrier to me is the $$$. I used it for two weeks and returned it mostly because of the $$$. I think it looks cool...and the hands free component is amazing. The biggest thing going for it for me was as a portable 4K UHD 70" screen. My workplace is cheap and gives us 24" 1080p screens to use at the office.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

Until there's a unified framework for VR hardware/software/drivers across brands (so you can run the same games across headsets from different brands), VR will always be an expensive novelty. Right now, most games have to be custom written for each headset due to each brand having bespoke lens types.

[@saifsolid679]

3:07 never wanted Asmon to be right as much as this one

[@curtisc2581]

Google Glass was already tried and failed, Asmon is wrong.

[@franks6349]

a super expensive novelty with no real application for anything useful

[@gabrield4892]

As an owner of one, it is my main device. People that don’t have one say they have no use.

[@victorchen9170]

A laptop isn't useful?

[@Lerppunen]

@@victorchen9170A laptop is more useful.

[@davesjones1327]

4:20 Apple did not create the iPhone. It bought the company that was developing it and sold it under its brand name. A very good move on Apple's part, but they are two very different things.

[@cyric2010]

I think the technology has amazing potential. The thought of being able to watch movies, sport, youtube, porn etc while doing the most mundane of tasks (washing the car, mowing the lawn, walking the dog, working a boring job) is really cool.

[@Allplussomeminus]

13:32 😂😂😂😂😂 almost made me crash my car from laughing

[@andrewdubose9968]

Eyes on the road smh

[@danyelperao]

It's like those products from "as seen on tv" that are forgotten in thrift stores

[@Joni_Tarvainen]

The only classes that fascinated me at all with somewhat similar functionality was the Google glasses back in the day and those were literally glasses, not a damn VR- set worn in public. Idk how Apple thought this would have gone anywhere but to dumpster, especially with 3K price tag.

[@ELXABER]

I'm an early tech adopter, practically a full-stack dev who retired from IT. I tried VR headsets, and the infrastructure just isn't there. No adaptability, meh graphics, and lack of content or a real metaverse, so I returned it. I think the best part was either SIM racing as a headset, which doesn't work great, and the best app was Google Earth. They need to make it a screen for PCs at a much-reduced price, not a standalone $3k unit, or go with AR and make it look like normal glasses which will have a much lower adoption rate. It shouldn't be an iPhone replacement, it should be an addition to the iPhone.

[@noahwattel4226]

3:19 actually there's youtuber Zack Freedman "Why am I wearing a heads-up dislplay?" that made one of those. Sunglasses won't work and the problem with these is that they all have to be custom made to the size and shape of your head. But yeah apart from that it's the most practical thing that exsists right now.

[@crazygeek6319]

2:41 don't forget their is also "look like an idiot and an asshole" regarding the dude who wore it in his wedding 😊

[@GhostLyricist]

Vision Pro already dead while I'm playing 18 hole golf on Meta Quest 3 💀

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

The "Augma" from Sword Art Online is what a product like this needs to be to have any level of success. A quick way to get this tech developed would be to tell the Military Industrial Complex "Hey wouldn't it be an awesome weapon to be able to make enemy soldiers see things that aren't there".

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

Can't wait to install Arch directly into my brain to fully transcend.

[@leotsujimoto5926]

@3:30 Virtual Retinal Display It already existed once as a concept, but we didn’t have the tech to make it a reality. At this point though, we’re either gonna get bionic eyes or AR glasses, which perform the same function.

[@monkeysquad11]

9:48 "it just feels like Apple is trying to get as much money as possible at the expense of their consumers" - this could have been the end of the video

[@corneliusblackwood9014]

Who cares what it “looks like” , I care what it DOES.

[@WealthyWyatt]

Yea, I'm not concerned about the look. I give ZERO effs about look...can it meet my needs is what matters.

[@Averymindset]

Problem of “what it looks like” is 1. Apple marketing it like it will help people in their daily life. 2. One pf the apple’s strength that make iPhone popular is that it looks cool. People esp girls want to show off their iphone. Thats why a lot of people buy iphone instead of android. 3. Even if it sucks and lame, its still in people’s nature to showoff, knowing that its expensive. You can see some comments in this vid saying that “they own one and people who hate it just people who cant afford it” See? 4. I agree with you that, “what it does” matter the most. But if you only use it in your room alone (because using it outside lame), that it will be more productive than 3.5k pc. Only thing that apple vision does and 3.5k pc cant is 3d for movie or games and any VR glasses can do that.

[@suziechapstick8236]

The Apple consumer base does, because a lot of them care more about style than substance.

[@mauriciogonzalez6302]

@@suziechapstick8236you’re kidding right. Have you ever used a MacBook with an iPad or iPhone. The ecosystem is brilliant. It’s seamless across device. I am talking about Bluetooth, apple wallet, find my features, dual screen. I can you my iPhone as a webcam for my Mac for god sake. I think anyone outside of this ecosystem thinks their device is the cream of the crop. Android represent “freedom” for people that think they know how to use it let alone need it. If there was a gap in restrictive feature between Apple and Android, it’s now gone if not better on the apple ecosystem.

[@ryanminaker157]

I've personally never thought someone looked cool or uncool because of a phone.. well maybe i did with the razer actually.

[@BenjaminAntonyJames]

Quest 3 is more affordable, while cheaper, has more functionality

[@BruhZerk]

Selling this product to consumers was a clear trade of positive sentiment for revenue to offset their R&D costs. Anyone that bought one of these got completely fleeced.

[@reborn6217]

3:25 apple has already made concepts of augmented glasses called iglass far before the apple vision came out, I think they planed to use the apple vision as a stepping stone into ar for the Iglass

[@actualyoungsoo]

00:20 Everybody bought and talked about it. Soon after, they returned it.

[@shadowarez1337]

How thought these broke quicker then there 💩 phones. Take the outa box already cracked user damage.

[@Yakobito]

@@shadowarez1337 Bro what is this argument. i see it everywhere. Ive owned 3 iphones. All served me well for 3+ years at a time with next to no hang ups.

[@shadowarez1337]

@Yakobito they used to come pre busted or if held in direct sunlight with a slight breeze they'd shatter. Mainly Cr@pple bought a Sapphire Glass company that would have made them nearly shatter proof/Scratch resistant but instead pulled a Ford bought the company then shelves it locked it tighter then Rambus business Model.

[@a4c01]

You are confusing the Dreamcast with Neo Geo. Neo Geo was the Arcade Game console.

[@Nero_Jero]

I feel like maybe the Atari Lynx would have been a better comparison. Or hell, even the Virtua Boy

[@gipgap4]

If you’re referring to price, you could also say the 3DO.

[@Suzuki_Hiakura]

The person with the first Neuralink actually had many of the cables disconnect or shift, being rendered useless while the others were able to remain attached and provide similar functionality to the original one. Also heard they just got approval for more and deeper connections to the brain, so the future ones should have double the bandwidth (for example) while also being far more secure. Doubt we will get to Nerve Gear levels of immersion off the Neuralink, but I would love to see that kind of VR headset in my lifetime. Even better if say you have a single day off work and could play a game for roughly 3 days straight, due to the slower sense of time in the spinoff show.

[@zerosiii]

The thing with headsets is that you have to put them on your head. The quality is not the problem, the price is not the problem. Even if you made these to be the best ever and handed them out for free, after a few weeks everyone will stop using them. The mere act of having to put it on your head, having to charge it before hand and pay attention to battery, or having a cable attached to it, make it a very unattractive product. Anyone that owned a VR headset (like a QUEST or whatever) will know this and would have realized this

[@matta9991]

The problem is they marketed it as a device that would replace your iPhone. Then people started using it in situations that they would normally use their iPhone, and it looked ridiculous. Meta marketed theirs as a gaming machine to be used behind closed doors, and people still use it that way. There's a market for a gaming headset, there's no market for what Apple was trying to sell to consumers.

[@TheAdamSell]

Apple FanBoi's: "omg this is amazing!!" The rest of the world: "my quest is better, has more apps, literally everything about this is better for 9x less" AFB: "if you're broke just say that". Everyone: "um no, yours doesn't DO anything and is on the verge of being discontinued. Here's the list of features next to each other....." AFB: "it's okay bro, you're broke. just say that. Where's the blue bubbles? broke boy!" Everyone "sigh... whatever" AFB: "See? I won!! broke boyyyyyyssss. BLUUUUUEEEE BUBBBBBLLLLLLLEEESSS". Everyone... (already left and went about their days without being 5k in CC debt after all the "addons"...)

[@kickless7776]

Lmao

[@Stevo.100]

Yep I remember being called broke because I didn't want to buy one. I'm not, I have plenty of cents (sense), and that's the reason I don't buy it.

[@Yakobito]

@@Stevo.100I dont understand this argument. You can buy cheaper apple products or expensive ones. Just like any other company. Im not for one or the other company but you can go buy a folding phone rn thats more than double what the most expensive iPhone costs.

[@Stevo.100]

@@Yakobito "You can buy cheaper apple products or expensive ones. Just like any other company" Right, of course, absolutely! Name the "cheaper" apple product version of the Apple Vision Pro. I won't wait for you to respond. Mummy needs to take your iphone away from you so you can stop spouting trash on the internet. But do you know who does have multiple versions at different price points? THE ACTUAL CHEAP ONE. There was the Quest 2 and the Quest Pro and now there is the Quest 3 and the Quest 3S, if you have a bit of extra to spend you can get a better quality version, if you don't, you can still get a really good quality product cheap. A lot of people incorrectly label the AVP as a "industrial" product, no it's a consumer product with an industrial price. Apple is a joke but we aren't laughing at them, we are laughing at the people who buy apple products.

[@ghoulbby]

@@Stevo.100 Cool. Still applies to the other 99.9% of all their products like phones, laptops, desktops, and tablets.

[@SpiceCh]

4:10 Every iphone is the same iphone. Every macbook is the same macbook. Every ipad is the same ipad. The wireless in-ear speakers aren't innovative, and the wireless headset isn't better than the competition regardless of how much the Apple fans high on marketing copium would have you believe. The most innovative thing Apple does is selling 1000 $ stands for their monitors and renaming decade-old technology so their "lifestyle" target demographic will think it's new and clap like seals when they get it. They're only alive because their software has become industry standard in certain circles and their walled garden approach and cult-like marketing indoctrinates and locks customers into their ecosystem. As for the iPod, it was an mp3 player, which existed years before.

[@ericderrick1429]

iPhone wasn't even the original iPhone. BlackBerry Storm was the first real touch screen phone. iPhone wasn't far behind and they improved on all the flaws of the BlackBerry.

[@Yakobito]

Why fix what isnt broken? Who cares if every year’s iphone is similar to the last? Does apple sell some overpriced products? Yeah. Who cares. Dont buy them. Why not be happy you dont have to upgrade every year and that your iphone/macbook/etc is relevant for years to come. I dont get this mentality that Apple or anyone else has to reinvent the wheel every year. Year after year, forever. Smartphone tech and alot of consumer tech in general has reached a mature stage- which is awesome for the consumer. Personally I love my iPhone. It does everything i need it to do. Its reliable. Battery lasts 2 full days of casual usage. Its supported by updates for 10+ years if i decide to keep it that long. What more do you want? Same generally goes for Samsung or any other major smartphone/tech manufacturer.

[@ericderrick1429]

@@Yakobito the main gripe about iPhone being the same year after year is that they market it as "new" and "innovative" and lie to consumers. I think it's completely fair to call out bad business practices whether they personally affect you or not.

[@arootinbaghomian]

Apple really been falling off since Steve Jobs left us!

[@sooperd00p]

Lol, they literally are not falling off.

[@arootinbaghomian]

@@sooperd00p Really? they selling the same phone every year with a new camera people going crazy over it...

[@Inkbrush_]

​@@arootinbaghomian They have a retinue of snobby weirdos with money. But it is true that they do not advance in innovation in anything original, they only copy and make slight changes.

[@wille84fin]

Yeah, pretty much. People here generally make fun of people with Apple products. They are usually treated as a little *simple. Like children need guard rails and training wheels, Apple users usually get confused or stressed out from too many/complicated options/things. But it's okay.

[@vaolin1703]

The macbooks are better than ever. iPhones not so much

[@chuckpurist8830]

one of the reason Isold my Pico 4 VR is the headache it came with it while playing movement games, the game which you just standstill is fine but it ain't comfortable.

[@GoldSrc_]

It goes away after a while. It happened to me with the Quest 2, but after a few weeks, even the movement of Quake 3 never bothers me now.

[@chuckpurist8830]

@GoldSrc_ yeah too late now I bought it for 1 year and used like 10 times 😅 sold it off

[@gloominousdoom11]

The vision pro wasn't meant for selling well. The Apple roadmap has been around for a decade now. They are working on AR technology to replace the iPhone or at least coexist with the iPhone initially. The Vision Pro was just the dipping of the toes to get the consumer thinking about this tech. They are making this tech smaller to fit in a pair of standard glasses. That's the end goal here.

[@kuroki4151]

Asmon my man, its not cutting edge, Its called Meta Quest 3 and its only for $300. Literally everything in that tech demo is just Meta Quest but slapped with an apple logo

[@Sig_P229]

Even as an apple device, I knew it was gonna flop before it began

[@Divamage]

$3000 could get you a whole pc and perhaps a 5070

[@cecollins68]

And if you budget carefully you could probably have enough to buy a "meta quest 2" which literally does the same if not more than the apple vision pro with an actual games library with the quest store and SteamVR via airlink or link cable. You could literally have your cake and eat it too, the vision pro just has an unbelievably stupid price point for what it does.

[@PaulHindt]

A friend of mine is still obsessed with VR and asserts that the younger kids that grew up around it will be much more inclined to use it. However my contention is that the ergonomics of it will always relegate it to a more niche crowd. I barely even want to wear light-weight eyeglasses for my vision prescription, let alone wear a pair of VR goggles on my head for extended periods of time. Am I in the minority opinion with regards to the ergos of VR, or do a lot of people feel this way?

[@wck]

I don't know why anyone ever thought this headset would be cool because EVERYTHING you do on it is just flat 2D squares superimposed in front of you. There's maybe a couple 3D tech demo things, but everything else is essentially just virtual monitors that float in your environment. Who the heck wants to wear a headset for that? It's all the downsides of virtual reality HMDs with none of the benefits of virtual reality.

[@thenonexistinghero]

Turns out there aren't that many people willing to pay 3K for a VR device that while amazing, also has no shortage of flaws.

[@AzumiRM]

Apple phones were built off technology which already existed long before. Including: the smartphone, the MP3 player and the digital camera. Infact, a smartphone with MP3 playback and a camera already existed before the apple phones came around. Steve jobs was a salesman , not an inventor. His job was to market for apple via presentations.

[@Lerppunen]

Phones sucked ass before the iPhone came around. Deal with it.

[@Yakobito]

Cope

[@Passivepotato]

@@Lerppunen let me guess 2003 kid?

[@StMargorach]

12:00 don't buy raycon, buy some soundcore earbuds thank me later😊

[@PoohOnYourShoe]

I used to exclusively only buy soundcores. I need the ones with ear hooks and those were by far best bang for your buck. I had to buy a new pair like every six months because i work construction. 30$ was an awesome price point. 2 Father’s Days ago I was gifted powerbeats and they are far superior. They still last me a full day at work and the case gives you basically 2 charges and it has fast charging (30 mins for 5 mins charging) and the dust and rain from work hasn’t effected them. They are worth the 200$ especially if you can get them on sale.

[@kyliemcsmiley88]

Just discovering you have *RawRR* in some of your usernames😮 absolutely made my day 😂 what a blast that time was

[@FractalityX]

With brand new products like this - never buy version 1. Always wait for 2 or 3 to let them either A) kill it off or B) fix the bugs

[@valentinotto88]

the og creator lost me the moment he said: "A macbook will last you a lifetime!" Just no it will break 2 times in the warranty period and once one day after it expires

[@Enter-wl3zf]

Maybe depends on the generation? I am using one from 2015 and while it’s age shows when running newer software it’s still very usable. Replaced the battery once and thats due again soon and repaired a switch or two - can’t complain really. The generations 2016 till the M chips were not as reliable. I have high hopes for the M chip generations tho.

[@TheBloopers30]

Older Macbooks didn't. It's sad.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

I like the Vision Pro, I don’t want it to fail because I want Vision glasses which can just plug into your iPhone and you can use the iPhone as like a hologram would go hard. Make it like 1000 bucks and people will buy it

[@MatthewKelley-mq4ce]

It's sort of their own fault.

[@張彥暉-v8p]

Just switch to Meta.

[@ClayMann]

don't worry because the video was just rage bait for Apple users. Utter nonsense. Apple never even had any ability to manufacture the Vision Pro at scale. It was always supposed to be a very limited release acting like a sort of devkit for developers to start making not only games and apps but understanding what you can make in augmented reality. Apple invested more into the headset than any other product they've ever made. Its not going anywhere. They will release many more headsets each one cheaper than the last and they'll do a worldwide at scale release for the next one. People will wear ski googles on their faces if it gives them the ability to be at a cinema instantly or have virtual people in your room talking to you. I'm not a Vision headset owner, it wasn't even available in my country at launch. But I recognise its a new platform that absolutely is the future. Asmon is wildly out of touch acting more like the grandma he describes in this video.

[@Averymindset]

This @clayman said apple will release many more headsets that will be cheaper than last…. Pfft

[@ClayMann]

@@Averymindset a cheaper headset being available doesn't mean there won't be a more expensive one above it. We know that Apple have done the deals with manufacturers already. So there's a fairly good idea the next headset will drop the glass and front screen, possibly go from metal to plastic, 2 processors down to 1. All aiming for a sub $2000 price. But this is Apple. Even a barebones $1500 model could end up being $2500 once you add enough memory, storage, battery packs, deluxe strap etc. And no one knows yet if they'll make a standard, pro and light model. Pro and light seem likely if the next one sells as that maps onto their current lineup of computers and tablets.

[@jokinag]

Apple Vision Pro: the headset so forgotten it’s probably collecting dust in augmented reality too.

[@Darryl14ful]

The apple vision pro was never for everyone, it was for people who wanted the latest tech and be the first adopters. Why do everyone keep mentioning that 3000 is too much? Its not for the avergae person. The next ten years it will get smaller and the price tag will accomplish for the massess

[@jakeyeatsbacon]

I maintain that VR is extraordinarily fad friendly. Its staying power is measured in sprints, not long runs. And it always comes back in a decade to some new tech

[@FrenzyLive1]

It’s like when Google released those glasses, technology isn’t far enough so no need to rush!

[@PHDarren]

00:20 "Everybody was talking about it" Were they, I wasn't. I think the only people talking about it were the ones paid to talk about it.

[@SuperRedNovaDragon]

People were talking about it up until the price was revealed and then nobody cares anymore

[@jayluc19]

I'd pay 3k if it was anything similar to what's in the movie ready player one

[@furious_melons674]

To get anywhere near that, you'd be looking at a matrix-style interface. The neuralink is more likely to lead to that than any of the companies selling face toasters.

[@jayluc19]

@@furious_melons674 True, but this should be otw of being made. The omnidirectional treadmill should be the easiest to make. The Neuro links or interface should the hardest to be done

[@Kanakotka]

4:40 Nah man, not even close to being built off the iphone. The iphone is quite literally stolen design, it's built off of Nokia 770 and its predecessors (Such as 7710 and Communicator)

[@BobbyThompsonRocks]

One review I saw described it best: In the presentation video for it, NONE of the presenters talking about the various features were ever shown actually wearing it.