What the Hell is Tryred Witness Archives? - Analog Horror Analysis

[@obsessedncrazy1329]

“You’re not alone, call the hotline today.” I SURE HOPE I AM? WHOS IN MY HOUSE???

[@zhikos_6441]

tis I

[@obsessedncrazy1329]

@@zhikos_6441 I have chicken if you want some

[@ytielabadin9560]

In spanish it says "we are with you" so i guess we know who

[@deskslam4232]

The dog is not your Bailey. He is in your walls. You can not run. You can not hide.

[@TanSucksAtArt]

@@deskslam4232 oh joy, a friend

[@Dante-ob5mh]

Sorry but at 18:00 Gabby has the worst friends in the universe lol. Peers: "Everyone, we need to keep a close eye on Gabby, she's been acting really strange today. Showing signs of depression and disassociation." Gabby: "I'm going to k* myself" [WALKS OUT INTO WOODS WITHOUT SAFETY GEAR] Peers: "Aahahaha classic drunk Gabz!!"

[@1r0zz]

It’s a thing that happens sometimes.

[@teremleonheart3776]

@@1r0zz yeah, having shitty friends is a horrible thing to sometimes have.

[@gabby3036]

Oh boy, another series where it's gonna be weird for me. This is gonna be Angel Hare all over again, isn't it?

[@EE-jp5ev]

I mean in fairness, that is VINTAGE Silly Gab

[@lesliemartin3]

Almost the exact same situation occured in Mexico. The woman's name was Dehbani Escobar. Instead of woods they left her in the street.

[@KimSokolArt]

Clicked this going “I know I’ve watched stuff on this before, and probably also at least some of the project itself, but which one is this again” and was immediately reminded that ah yes, this is the one with the frankly unsustainable amount of disappearances. (It has some good stuff going! That’s just the thing that stuck with me most, unfortunately!)

[@theant4184]

for everyone that is mad about it being super tropey, it's because treyred archive was made 2 years ago, all the tropes weren't that frowned upon at all. and plus, analog horror is like, one of the hardest horror mediums to do pretty sure, i respect they atleast tried imo

[@base21]

Not really an excuse, jumps scares were already heavily used in horror movies and nobody liked them when the vid was made

[@shadowbrain4814]

I understand that it's part of the appeal behind analog horror, but could the creators not make their dialogue so compressed? It makes it hard to make out at times.

[@johnynoway9127]

but but How will it be creepy if its barelly understandably?!! Theres just no way!

[@gorekatt22]

you know it’s a good video when there’s a warning and a hotline number

[@carmina-solis]

it’s a small thing for you to do, but i really appreciate you calling out the “native curse” cliché - it’s tired and i’m glad to see people calling it out. thanks man c:

[@ivorfoster7466]

I can certainly see the points of inspiration for this series in some places - Julianna's sequence resembles the miner's calls in Greylock - but also a lot of passion. Though the scares start out amateurish in their use of loud noises and distorted faces, I find that as the series goes on, they become more explainable. With the way the antagonists communicate with their victims, it's like the supernatural forces are matching the often brutal and sudden way self-hating thoughts/impulses can manifest. The word that kept coming to mind when I was watching was "vicious". I would prefer if they toned down the volume spikes a little, and added in-video content warnings. (Which is strange - I recall seeing one in the title and comments for video 2 when I first watched it, but now there isn't.) I also agree with your sentiment at 40:39 about the handling of indigenous culture in horror. Fortunately, the eighth question down on their Q and A post from three months ago asks about Indigenous Mexican involvement on the team, to which the creators answered that they were of indigenous descent. While this cannot be taken as a *guarantee* that certain tropes won't come up, this at least points to an awareness and insight into whatever aspects they choose to portray. Overall, I'm somewhat optimistic.

[@carmina-solis]

oh that’s good to know!

[@theant4184]

this series was before greylock iirc, so julianna's sequence was not inspired by greylock for sure

[@ivorfoster7466]

@@theant4184 Though you are right that Tryred Witness Archives started before Greylock did (2021 and 2023 respectively), the episode with the miners (Tape 006 - sleeping dogs) was uploaded on May 22nd 2023, while Missing Game was uploaded five months later on December 12th 2023.

[@theant4184]

@@ivorfoster7466 oh, had a hunch that you were talking about a more recent episode

[@ivorfoster7466]

@@theant4184 ah, I see! It's okay, I probably should have been more specific in my original post

[@BionicleFreek99]

*ANGRY GHOST NOISES* "Bazinga."

[@Orlando_Furioso]

That would instantly destroy a ghost or specter

[@luawidi]

*Disintegrating ghost noises*

[@autismadventures7686]

With the video that was glitchy. I heard. "Cut it down.. they hurt my children." And it was slowed.

[@halofreak1263]

The amount of exceedingly loud noises kinda ruins the whole thing for me.

[@WobblesandBean]

Same. Loud noises/jumpscares are the sure sign that the creator is completely inept and too lazy to think up anything actually scary and atmospheric. Same with the edgy images of self harm. That's UrbanSPOOK levels of lazy, uninspired, edgelord shock nontent.

[@TruecrimeWithAlicia]

Same! I like a good scare but the loud noises at 1:15:30 are so loud that I can't focus on whats being said because my ears are being destroyed! I have sensitive hearing to begin with. I wish creators would get more creative instead of recycling the same old thing. Like we get it, loud creepy noises whooooo scary 😂

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

Loud noises definitely have their place but, yeah this is a bit much When your first episode already packs in so many, there's something up Given I can be really hard to disappoint but still

[@Mysterymouse2]

Yep! Def not falling asleep to this. 😅

[@puppycakes9982]

I really agree. As someone with heightened sound sensory issues, it makes the series almost unwatchable.

[@kevinyalantis-scottproduct7035]

This series shares a lot of similar tropes with old slenderman webseries, Very interesting

[@nono9543]

When they mentioned the wishing tree it all clicked with me. I should have suspected earlier with the masked individuals who have symbols on them.

[@roseofbones]

YES I’m so glad someone else said it, because it reminds me a lot of marble hornets with the meds, the symbols, the masks, mentally ill teens running off into the forest under the influence of a weird entity, etc

[@jadedjoshe9436]

As a Native American I appreciate the disapproval of stereotyping our cultures and using us as crutches in horror, MVTO / thank you! Edit: For all my native siblings, if you haven't yet, you must check out Jeff Barnaby. He is a native horror film writer and director! He already has some great films out. My current favorite is Blood Quantum, a zombie film with inspiration from the walking dead.

[@aliceiscalling]

Agreed. I like when our cultures are presented well, like using actual stories or real cultural beliefs, but hate the "omg Native American burial ground/cursed land/skinwalker (that literally doesn't look/act like one, but the name is scary so whatever)"

[@jontinoco8195]

I think lots of general horror and analog horror most recently have attempted this without making it make sense. The only recent examples I can think of that make the most sense were the Wendigo enemies in Until Dawn (human like and feral, not the animal headed figures of pop culture), and "Skinwalkers" from Gemini Home Entertainment. GHE's use was a misunderstanding of what the campgoers were seeing when seeing the Bear (The Wretch) that had been sacrificed to The Iris/Strange Dressed Men in place of a human and other Woodcrawlers in the 1930's and 1940's.

[@base21]

​@@jontinoco8195 why can't we have both types of wendis?

[@armoredninetynine4501]

Darn right. Need me a native horror film where it’s just a casino going out of business.

[@randomenvelope]

Yeah like where the hell did the native burial ground myth come from? And why is that worse than making a house on a normal burial ground?

[@DummysGirl97]

I normally wouldn't support mental health issues being a forefront in a horror series, given stigmas, but i feel like they did... pretty well, honestly. The lowest point in the series for me is how gabby's friends are protrayed, they seem like honestly awful people and i don't know how one could associate with them. But that may be my autism not understanding social constructs.

[@exist4046]

unfortunately ‘friends’ not taking mental health seriously is a genuine issue, esp with people who try to stick around groups that are ‘popular’ just to avoid being picked on. some of those people just dont actually care about them, and its really fucked up. fortunately ive never experienced that (im too autistic to ‘settle for’ people who are gonna treat me or others like shit) , but i know it does happen

[@DummysGirl97]

@@exist4046 autism gang RISE UP

[@base21]

Weird stance but ok, as long as it's protrayed to how it actually is. No reason to care

[@SwaggyG_2102]

I'm so glad to see you covering this series! It doesn't get enough love, honestly.

[@screwdajuice]

Haha, loud = scary 🤤🤤

[@arbalest327]

@@screwdajuice oh wow, man cant judge a book past its cover.

[@WobblesandBean]

​@@arbalest327 Yes. You can. Loud noises aren't scary, it's just obnoxious, and then my already low opinion of this series was confirmed when they shoved in Self Crit instructions. These creators are uncreative, unoriginal, immature edgelords who think screamers + edgy shock jock imagery = good writing. It isn't. Frankly, anyone who actually likes this garbage is kinda tattling on themselves. The only other people who enjoy this tripe are other unoriginal, uncreative, immature little kids.

[@loner10K]

They really did that in the old days​@@screwdajuice

[@skyerussell4156]

@@arbalest327 yeah but the book's shit cover to cover mate

[@bradmerilic6848]

Brother I watched this on a complete whim, and this is one HELL of a rabbit hole that I can’t WAIT to follow down in Season 2. So far they’ve done a fantastic job of hiding the true fucking antagonists. And, definite spoiler territory, what SERIOUSLY fucked me up was when we find out the fucking a person missing every 40 seconds was nothing more than journalism rhetoric bullshit to get eyes on their project.

[@yutubunn8826]

Awesome video. :) I love this series. You did a nice job covering it. One time I woke up to one of your videos playing and thought I was having a nightmare.

[@superknowhowman1846]

Just what i needed a perfect video to help me get through the rest of my job.

[@guntherklausen6891]

Julianna did not die on the 2nd! While the funeral programm claims that, the recording of her going insane is from the 4th, so claiming her death two days early is likely intentionall

[@evanrocha3579]

This series is made so well that it’s honestly disappointing that they rely so much on loud=scary. There’s so much good art but when everyone is either loud noise or a jumpscare I just put my volume down and it suddenly isn’t scary, just annoying. Hope they change over time.

[@pyroke6909]

Very good video!! I appreciate the little jokes you get to drop in the video and the mindset you have around indigenous culture being used in horror. I don't take much issue with these kinda series, every now and then it's nice to return to some cliches. As the series goes on the quality of the scares and quality does get better so I think the more time goes on the better things will get. Something I think is really interesting is that it seems this "group" in the forest only targets women, atleast so far. Jake only died because he went in looking for his sister Alex. Plus, during the slides talking about the victims at that point 14:22 it says specific things about the girls, that they were sad, and that "we made eachother whole" message, but for Jake? It says he got too curious, which makes me feel they only killed him because he was too close to figuring something out or was just in the way. Later on at the whole behind the white door thing it says Jake's body is in there, not everyone's bodies. So is Jake the only one they found? Are the other victims still in the forest? Just something to think about.

[@ethanpack3116]

I called the number from the video Missing Program and it was honestly super unsettling. The sounds of birds chirping and branches snapping and a man with a haunting monotone voice saying "jade is gone"

[@EresonWrey]

I noticed that at 1:09:35 there’s an image of the Kabbalah tree of life in her room, wonder what that’s about

[@griffcrist5167]

*throws hands with general floor floor from library of ruina*

[@EresonWrey]

@@griffcrist5167 thank god I found another P-Moon fan in the comments

[@OG_MrRubberDucky]

we got powerpoint slideshows n stuff this is truly a analog to horror ever 🔥 also would be cool if your voice was louder than the bg music next time, great video neverthless

[@nono9543]

So does this technically count as a Slender series or is it more like a spiritual successor?

[@wolfman-zd1ed]

Analog horror is getting extremely difficult to audibly understand. Like I'm missing massive details that I'm pretty sure the creators *want* me to hear, but it's so deep fried to hell that it's incomprehensible. Also props for calling out the Native American stereotype shit. It's so tired and dumb...

[@base21]

Its not dumb but ok lol, be mad

[@wolfman-zd1ed]

@@base21 OOOOOooooOOOOHH SPOoKy rED MeN wiTH stRaNgE SavAge ScAry bElIEfs! 😱😱😱😱😱 It's like being scared of catholics because they all dress the same and shout about hellfire and damnation, and THAT'S an incredibly dumb and played out trope too. Come back with more of an argument, darling.

[@nuketea4395]

Like exactly. I understand it's a part of atmosphere, but HOLY HELL can you at least make it somehow audible?

[@eldritchchaos2663]

28:45 I find it interesting that you're hearing "cut it down/hunt it down" here, because to me it just sounds like a slowed down audio clip saying "Project Alex"

[@PiggieMom]

This is what it sounds like to me too.

[@AlyceMalyce]

Hmm, I thought it might say something like 'I'm a tree now' slowed way down and slurred. Who knows, given no bodies are on the evidence list I'd consider it, as they only dispose of clothing, etc.

[@Atlotl_the_Axolotl]

You already KNOW the video's gonna be fire when it's got a content/self harm warning ‼️‼️🗣

[@thegunfoogle2864]

This has every trope. The final nail in the coffin of this medium.

[@momentaryretrospect5967]

That’s what I was thinking. I genuinely could not take it seriously when they used the goofy stock eyes moving around in darkness gif.

[@NissenFundoplication]

analog horror was best when it was just peoples' odd art projects

[@tryredwitnessarchives5472]

[@PaganValley]

It’s an awesome series! Can’t wait to see what comes next!

[@commiedog425]

The background music is way too loud at times ​@@PaganValley

[@Hogarth40k]

Good work on this banger of a video

[@slopyardjoe]

9:25 average berserk before eclipse vs berserk after eclipse

[@TheRPGNerd]

i agree. definitely needs trigger warnings, i didnt wanna see like 2 scenes of people cutting themselves.

[@hakaidemati4417]

I find it funny that you just stare at your phone as all that is unholy screams from it

[@sontar6726]

This is about to be on some other level than just beyond good when i get an ad in the discription for a suicide help hotline 💀

[@brandacespangler4579]

Can someone do the math on the disappearances in a small town because I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be any one left in like a week?

[@rebeccamacdonald6837]

Did you notice when Ethan is asked about getting 40 seconds down, he starts saying he'll work hard until it's 30, then 20, then 10, then one, which means MORE missing people, not less. It's a small detail but important

[@sarak7074]

Love your content dude! You do a great job of being comprehensive without being over-explanatory, which is a hard line to walk. The only gripe I have is sometimes your audio leveling makes it difficult to understand you without blowing out my eardrums with the next jumpscare, haha. But if that's the only criticism I have, then... I don't have much to complain about, do I? Thanks for all the work you put into these.

[@asherael]

modern CW keys (morse paddles) have two switches, one left and one right, one for dashes and one for dots. I've been studying CW for months, so i'm not an expert but I'm really confident thats not morse

[@SpecialInterestShow]

"what to do WHEN your child goes missing" is so chilling. When, not IF

[@adamsmasher9769]

29:00 i just heard "project alex" over and over again

[@TheRPGNerd]

lexiprox is very similar to lexapro, also known as citalopram. its a medication for anxiety and depression. (i actually take it myself lol) if thats intentional, it causing increased suicide risk is normal for antidepressants.

[@LeeY0uTube]

ok

[@diddysurvivor236]

I think the high indigenous population in tryred speaks to the real issue of missing and murdered indigenous women thats been disproportionately affecting indigenous communities for years now. I think that being especially niche aspect of the series adds a layer of horror seen from a specific cultural point of view

[@aria5614]

Red teeth lady "Are you Alex?" *scurries closer* "Wait you're not Alex." I love her your Honor.

[@Abrosexualmoth]

I love how i’m watching this before bed

[@gp-1542]

My main idea is that something is the forest, government made of supernatural What ever it is is specifically targeting people with mental health issues The medicine is actively making the issues worse for these people, making them more of a target. Why? I do not know. Either out of “feeding” or something to do with that tree story.

[@transcreatureofchaos]

I'm gonna break the negativity streak I've seen in the top comments and say that despite some of the tropes used on occasion, this series is actually really good and tackles mental health really thoughtfully for the most part

[@transcreatureofchaos]

Also, tropes do not equal a bad series, and I will stand by this

[@Nocturnal_Mee]

And it was made two years ago, before these tropes became overused and tired.

[@brokendreams1987]

I think the third video was remade/altered, I remember the video being slightly different, it was more high quality, the dorr scene was different, and the slideshow was like one of those 2000’s presentations. It’s mainly the parts after the interview scene are different

[@Nocturnal_Mee]

Aww, the phone number just says “user busy” now if you try to call :(

[@floramew]

I heard "punch it down" for the distorted audio, but yours make more sense in context.

[@LevelCASDUO]

My man called a Dreamcast, a "Nintendo Dreamcast"

[@jourdanball1112]

I wasn’t even paying super close attention and yet my brain heard that in the background and was like wtf???

[@AlabasterHarleqinne]

This could be a weird stretch, but I remember a song in the early 2000s maybe? That sampled some statistics on self termination. The one that kept repeating and I remember was "One death every 40 seconds". Maybe a weird, obscure coincidence, but with some of the themes of mental health issues, people and organisations ignoring the hugely problematic statistic, and the lack of concern. It might be an allegory for that. Edit: Just heard the truth or dare question about exactly this statistic about 1 minute after I posted this. So, maybe not as much of a stretch as I thought. Edit 2: Also Lexiprox? There's an antidepressant called Lexapro. Brain just too slow to putb it together at the time.

[@mvrk4044]

at the 30min point the garbled voiceline to me sounds like "haun... ted... town"

[@Topboxicle]

I think it's one of those audio puzzles, where the message is kinda whatever you hear out of it, because without having any visual cues, I heard it as 'time...ticks...down'

[@loner10K]

Haunted town seems real because of what is going on behind the scenes. I wonder what direction this series is going to

[@eraser2592]

If you turn the playback speed up to 1.5 it says haunted town

[@woodchuck94og]

The only disturbing thing is the bad photoshop the use, Mandela catalogue ruined everything

[@thegoldengeek8057]

You already know you're getting into some serious stuff when the hotline is below the video.

[@shemasmcguire3999]

Good to see you back pagan

[@thevoicesaregettinglouder16]

There is no way that this series isn't satire

[@Lux_Ferox]

It's so bad it has to be. It hits every single cliché possible in the worst ways possible.

[@yuugienjoyer]

calling it now, it's a borasca situation, where you really, *_really_* wish it was some paranormal shit going down.

[@kitsunneshenji6949]

That symbol (the circle and X) its just the Slenderman Symbol.

[@voxalicious.]

29:06 | I heard "i took them", interesting wording but it sorta makes sense with this series' plot regarding people going missing every 40 seconds. i am still unsure myself but that's what i managed to interpret from the distorted audio

[@gemini4704]

40:48 as a Native American myself, we do tend to have a history of doing that. I find it more offensive a white man is taking offense and being some type of “savior” for my people. If we got issues we’ll vocalize but it more or less feels patronizing to need a white savior.

[@gentlemangamerec7025]

Hear me out: What if the symbol is to appease the slender man? I know it's cheesy and no one uses him as a series anymore, but I think the symbol on the head combined with the disappearances makes it feel like they are trying to appease him. The wishing tree could be swapped out as well, but I think it seems too similar for it to be a coincidence.

[@mr.brightside2665]

Well that's what I thought at first when it dropped because that's usually his symbol

[@gooSquirrel]

I think if anything this would be more enjoyable without the like, ridiculous edits, stupidly distorted audio, flashing and such. it makes it less scary to me, harder to understand, and even gives headaches. I don't think it adds anything to just be a sensory assault.

[@swindlesys]

turn up the music i can almost hear your talking

[@thepinkgoblinwhounpluggedy3726]

I am glad they took the extra steps to actually get an actual phone number and didn’t just put a random phone I don’t remember which arg just used a random phone number and actually lead to a sex phone line

[@TheRPGNerd]

isnt this the one where they just threw in self harm footage

[@Lux_Ferox]

Yep, more than once. Very cringe.

[@bogdan-mihaibratianu]

It's not just self-harm, mfers literally are using gender violence as a story vector. There's something about the disproportionate victim count leaning towards women/individuals socialized as women that makes me wanna pass on this one. Gender violence much?

[@Pokkenjake2021]

Hey Pagan, there's an analog horror that you might have not heard of. It's called "Neko's analog horror". Can you please analyze it, please?

[@penance6998]

why are all these comments so negative if it sucks go make something better 😭 when the money comes in it won’t have to be them but it’ll never be you if you think you can do better than most ppl but haven’t even attempted to make something better blllppp👎👎

[@squibkib]

I got a call from a Texan number while watching this

[@Redzilla26]

34:25 STOP STARING AT ME WITH THOSE BIG OL EYES

[@eisernerrundfunk1]

Jumping up cursing in the middle of the night, caused by your eardrums get crushed all of the sudden into your Brain throug your headphones😖. That is truely is delicate spice able to give jump scares a peculiar touch some are craving for so deep i suppose.- Well i do, but im a weired freak.

[@commiedog425]

The background music is way too loud

[@cosmic_does_stuff4363]

47:00 god hearing Noise Off reminded me of my high school’s production of it. I honestly thought i escaped sardines

[@RIPSLYMEFAN]

5:35 idk why that audio sounded like a distorted version of of the melody line for West Coast by Coconut Records 😭

[@FatalHog]

I know this is a rather..... poor example of analog horror imo, but honestly that really shouldn't take away from this being a creators attempt to try and make something good.

[@robertguarino355]

Great reaction

[@Marcie_Parkie]

As an ex benzo addict the forgetfulness seems very extreme for the dosages they'd give you in a clinical trial

[@AzayBae]

It's believed the meds are made by the cult to make vulnerable people easier to separate and capture

[@polaristheprotoss6]

29:10 “Time tick down”

[@swindlesys]

28:59 it’s either saying “project alex” or “find alex”

[@IamEscBoy]

1:14:52 UBOA? IS THAT YOU?!

[@pwnthemonkeys]

great video although you put some of the music a bit louder than your commentary it was a little bit difficult hearing you.

[@leebratina1089]

28:40 it’s saying Project Alex “Pra Ject Al Ex”

[@dawwyy]

The series is alr , kinda edgy at some points but its alr.

[@2z575]

Am I just imagining the high pitch noise in the live action section or is it real?

[@linklover7077]

As someone who recently got put on Lexapro, .......😅

[@willheal5179]

dude that job interview screamed "I'm a teen and I've never had to do a job interview for a real job in my life" =_=.. literal kid content

[@SirGameWatch]

29:05 It said "Project Alex".

[@Acksn]

Getting real tired of the whole screeching sound trope. At this point I'm just annoyed at them. I'd rather have a series that's just unsettling on its own and leaves me with some malaise when I stop watching instead of having to sigh and reach for the volume knob every time there's a bit of silence. The main issue I have with that is that it really takes me out of the experience. It doesn't feel like I'm watching something I'm not supposed to but instead reminds me I'm watching something that was meant to scare people.

[@sitraahra1979]

Link to tryred channel does not work.

[@wallsofautumn]

great vid but please turn down the music volume

[@rosashell4]

1:18 what is Kermit doing here?!

[@pepiteroO]

great video but maybe tone the music down a bit, its kinda hard to hear ur voice😅

[@commiedog425]

Is would be perfect if it wasnt so damn loud. It just gets annoying with the constant earrape and ruins thr whole experience

[@garfieldeslazzannya6364]

Where is the eyeball Man VS crab Man videó went?

[@hudamalaje463]

I love this series kinda of remind of slenderman

[@BULLTRONHERO]

Ya know, nothing really locks down the ambiance and immersion like those good ol’ unexpected and inexplicable cutaways to the KZbinr’s sweet, delicious, pudgy soft young face. That really does it for me. Thanks.

[@penance6998]

ur real fuckin sad ye got nothing going for you so you gotta comment shit like this? Ya know, nothing locks down the ambience and immersion like those good ol unexpected lil bitch boy like yourself DISrespectfully go fuck yourself

[@ConfusedUniverse-wj9fw]

Why am i getting like some ad thing for a suicide hotline

[@kylefinn5301]

48:46 did you mean to say SEGA Dreamcast?

[@JunkyardGod]

"People go missing every 40 secs" 😂 Ear rap3 and jump scares are overdone.