What The Ship-Ep89 | Container | Offshore Wind | Russia-Ukraine | Methanol Fuel | Maritime Strategy

[@JamieSirensong]

I have absolutely no reason to be so damn interested in this channel. There's just something so satisfying about listening to Sal talk... he speaks with such a breadth of knowledge and confidant authority on these subjects. I'm constantly impressed by the quantity of fascinating content. Who knew shipping was such a compelling topic? Love it!

[@warrenjones744]

My sentiments exactly!

[@wgowshipping]

Thank you so much Jamie!

[@robertwazniak9495]

I nominate Sal for a National Maritime Strategy Committee member...

[@nigeldawson5960]

I second that nomination.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

And may I cast the first vote!

[@terracottaneemtree6697]

I "third" that nomination 😊 - this is quite an academic platform which we can say anything about the topics - for consideration. Exchange of ideas is a good thing 👍

[@JohnSmith-qy3cc]

Sal for president. Way overqualified compared to those who served the office in the last 30 years!

[@kp6215]

Me Too

[@cavediver74]

As usual great info but I especially appreciated your passion for a national maritime strategy and I have absolutely no skin in the game other than being an American citizen! I hope MARAD gets in right. Thank you and best regards.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

Whats going on with shipping? I have no clue, but i know a guy! He boils down the BS every week, and gives it to us straight. Oh did i mention his resume is as long as my arm? Or how about his top tier shirts? Thanks Sal! One of my favorite parts of my week is this show.

[@mikegallegos7]

1. I guess the offhsore wind farms will transmit DC power to a place on shore where it may use step-up transformers to make up power losses experiencd over long distance electicity transmission. Those plants ashore may or may be ready for receiving, distributing, metering, and controlling big power. Are they under construction, is land acquired/designated for landing off shore power? Have off shore wind farm honchos forgotten to get berthing for the off shore wind farms electricity? 2. If I were King, You would be the Transportation Secretary as long as you keep wearing those fantastic, fun shirts. edit: 3. a side note - In 1880's - 1930s, am fairly certain one of the ways nations paid back loans or acquired a loan was via gold bars that usually shipped by ship.

[@donalddodson7365]

Dr. Sal: Don't sign anything while at Annapolis! They are looking for Ensigns who don't think the Bosporus Straights is a heavy metal band ... 😎

[@BrettBaker-uk4te]

They sold out after their 3rd album😅

[@wgowshipping]

Don...I may have made a mistake as I am suppose to show up to Great Lakes next week for indoctrination!

[@highline64]

Funny about the wind farm issue. I read a story a couple months ago about the Brits warning us to be aware cost and maintenance of these wind farms will not decrease rate but increase rates. The cost are not substantial.

[@Holabirdsupercluster]

Yeah must be a total flop that's why the Germans and the Dutch and the Scandies have huge and extremely productive windfarms, huh. Maybe it's just Anglo-American sclerocracy...

[@SerendipityChild]

Another good episode, thank you. I actually looked up shipping news to help with some insomnia .. and I'm delighted / disappointed to now be an avid followers

[@johnward5006]

Here in the UK, companies involved in developing offshore windfarms are reluctant to expand operations due to Goverment reluctance to meet operators tariff demands. That might lead to a freeing up of specialist vessels. Green issues world wide are inevitably tied to "green" electrical generation.

[@BrettBaker-uk4te]

You can use pyrolsis to produce methanol from biomass. Use forest debris and crop residue to start, long-term forest plantations and fiber crops.

[@jasoningolden2194]

Regarding your dig on airplanes... It's true that ships are the most efficient transport on a per ton basis, BUT the tonnage carried by ships is orders of magnitude greater than that carried by airplanes. So the total CO2 production, which is what matters, is still much much greater for ships.

[@wgowshipping]

I mentioned that the issue was the concentration due to the tonnage carried by ships vs planes.

[@AllNighterHeider]

Thanks Sal

[@dickdaley9059]

MARAD Administrator Philips is a accomplished naval officer. The skills and disciplines she had to demonstrate to attain her rank in the Navy are impressive but are in complete antithesis of the knowledge, experience and direction that will be required to advance US maritime strategy for the next decades to come. She would be strongly advised to surround herself with professionals that have deep and intimate experience in the commercial industry. She will be judged by the competence of her appointed staff in this initiative. Best to begin the journey with a strong team on her side…unless she intends to just follow Navy orders. 🇺🇸⚓️

[@johnsamsungs7570]

I think in time green ammonia will be the fuel for shipping as it can be used in the engines without much alteration. But we have to get to the stage where we are making so much green electricity which is going to take some time. Should have started 50 years ago.

[@ПётрПроценко-б3к]

We are tired of rain..We had a super summer with fantastic crops in Russia and now we have one hell of a Foggy Albion of an autumn. Just the type and intencty changes from day to day, but the rain never goes away. Please ask Kulkulkan to take rain back to America.

[@bradfordthompson8326]

We do hope These neat fuels Concepts are cool innovative......Sal WE do hope your Shows will inspire further attention and Delvelope 😢😮😅😊😊

[@carlosmontalvo9026]

National Maritime Strategy Could there be a sort of National Maritime Strategy made by Sal and others? How would it be? Maybe a sort of a baseline creator. That would be a nice pdf.

[@bobqzzi]

Using methanol in a ship is insane. It is so, so corrosive and so hygroscopic that it's going to cause maintenance nightmares.

[@cos-9113]

There isn’t a global competition to put in wind farms, there is a global competition to get ahold of lucrative government subsidies.

[@danbuchman7497]

Interesting discussion about strategy. Having worked in the private sector at a chemical facility, I have some thoughts. The main issue to me is the title of the strategy (nitpicking?), this is way too broad. The security side of this, is definitely in the Navy or USCG wheelhouse. However, by on your comments, security should be only one section, as you listed other areas that are outside security. Each could be managed by stakeholders specific to their expertise. You’re correct about having the USN setting an overall strategy, and they are stakeholders in other area as well, just not all. Fore instance, there should be a strategy on emissions, which involve carriers and EPA, (dirty word… irony). Basically, trying to do something this large will only result in a bad job. Besides, this isn’t very glamorous work. If you were a high ranking officer, wouldn’t you want to be involved with something like… fighting bad guys? My guess is that by the time this is completed, there will be at least a dozen or more leaders. Continuity, sigh…

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Hello Sal!

[@ericmason349]

If the TRUE COST of international shipping, especially from China comes into play manufacturing within the U.S. could pick up. Local manufacturing has got to be a greener alternative to shipping goods over vast distances.

[@tissuepaper9962]

Of all the publications you'd expect to say "flounder" instead of "founder", gCaptain isn't one of them. Weird that the editors let that slip in a headline.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Wind Farm projects pencilled out assuming low interest rates; FRB increases in interest rates to fight inflation are one of the primary reasons projects have stalled.

[@QALibrary]

Sal with story number 3 could Russia charge ships for safe passage/access via their territorial waters? even with the need for icebreakers and other ships, it could be a great money-maker for them

[@mgertp]

Modern piracy - no need fgor cannons

[@Archangelm127]

Could you sometime put together a quick primer on things like short vs long rates and other common industry terms that those of us not in the industry don't really know? I think I understand, but I'd much rather hear a short explanation from an expert to be sure. ;)

[@nothandmade9686]

Airplanes move people more then tons. Combined emissions form maratime and aviation are about the same. If you want to look at high emissions look at electricity and automotive.

[@killingtimeitself]

primary producers of emissions are power generation, transport, automotive, and then i believe agriculture. Not the most important, but one of them.

[@CarlAlex2]

For Maersk the zero CO2 goal isnt set for 2050, but 2040. Do you think they would have stated that if it wasnt possible to achieve with a resasonable probability?

[@grahamstrouse1165]

Absolutely they would.

[@jeebusk]

17:20 yeah sailboats with nuclear reactors, that's totally the way to go :)

[@livelikeitslegal]

I think the best fuel source for shipping is hydrogen. It could be produced easily at ports or on ship. Older ships could be easily converted and possible to free up some space for transportable items.

[@maxmacdonald7174]

The Navy understands money, well how to spend it and not very smart ways.

[@thewhiteknight6736]

A noticeable feedback noise is present, great video though!!!!

[@SirPrancelot1]

Yes it sounds like morse code in the background. Very informative video though, thanks.

[@jeebusk]

You're a noticable feedback noise...

[@thewhiteknight6736]

@@jeebusk you’re so cool! I wanna be just like you

[@TargaWheels]

It seems like that American ship on the Black Sea is bait, even though they're passing through for a reason. Or did they really have to go that way?

[@wgowshipping]

State dept delivery of fuel to Georgia

[@jeebusk]

There are probably a lot of people hoping it gets interrupted, they may even consider false flags.

[@jamesebdon1212]

Tell me this..... Why can't Panama purchase/build some desalination plants to turn ocean water into fresh water. They are making millions of dollars with the Panama Canal

[@thamiordragonheart8682]

The energy required to pump water into Gatun lake to replace all the rainfall is on the order of a few gigawatts, so the same scale as a city of a few million people in the US, and that doesn't include the power required for desalination, which is much higher. I'd guess supplying the entire traffic of the Panama canal from desalination and pumping would need on the order of 10 GW of continuous power generation. supplying half the water, which would solve the current issues, would require 10s of billions of dollars of capital investment and 5-10 years work before you even start operating the system.

[@CaptainJerry-]

Thanks Dr Sal. U.S. Flag in the Black Sea. Hazard Pay?

[@CarlAlex2]

Why do you think having the wind farm construction/Usuport ships US flagged would make a difference? Those ships will go where they can generate most profits for the owners no matter the flag and where they are built - at least if they are from a free capitalist nation that doesnt force them to do otherwise. I can assure you that if a Danish company profits most from prioritizing US customers and isnt contractually bound to do otherwise then they will do so - isn't that how it's supposed to be?

[@loislane5092]

If you want to pronounce Von der Leyen's name in the future, say something close to "faun dare Lion".

[@anonymousAJ]

I don't think there's any harm at all in carbon dioxide emissions and in fact some benefit But in the long run I think the most promising non-carbon fuel is ammonia (NH3) At present, ammonia comes largely from carbon fuel processes (so it makes more sense to just use the hydrocarbons as fuel) However NH3 can be produced reasonably efficiently from electricity (see newer lithium salt processes that don't require water electrolysis to produce hydrogen first) That electricity can come from nuclear, hydro, or diffuse (solar, wind) sources According to Saudi Aramco research, NH3 2-stage combustion (rich and then lean) inhibits nitrous oxide emissions (the one thing you'd want to watch out for; with complete combustion you get N2 inert nitrogen and H2O) NH3 requires specialized combustion as ammonia's flame front propagates very poorly (so in piston ICE you have to run lean and get NOx emissions; instead you need a more turbine-like setup) On the plus side, ammonia liquifies readily at around 10 atmospheres of pressure and doesn't have the supercooling requirements of pure H & LNG or the steel embrittlement problem of H So we can produce NH3 reasonably efficiently from non-carbon sources, liquify/transport it fairly readily, and combust it into completely harmless byproducts.

[@LeonTroutskiunplugged]

fat fingered the mouse, ignore the thumbs down!

[@CoolClearWaterNM]

Offshore wind? Oh, crap. A guaranteed failure of a business for more solid engineering, physics and economic reasons than anyone can count. Who would have thought that putting hundreds of hazards in the water would hurt shipping too? Morons.

[@robertball3578]

Twenty years from now students will be amazed that no one thought that removing gigawatts of energy from the wind would be a source of climate change. Those winds bring cool moist air inland, taking that energy away results in a warmer drier climate. As several others have pointed out, maintenance of structural, mechanical, and electrical components will be expensive due to hurricanes, monster waves, collision from vessels, etc. I see windmills on the west coast out of service because wind speed is too low or too high.

[@CoolClearWaterNM]

Exactly! Thank you for being a thoughtful part of the conversation. That is only one issue of many, but it is critical and one that is overlooked more than mentioned.@@robertball3578

[@hescominsoon]

wind is not sustainable without taxpayer support...

[@jeebusk]

Hmm I'm not sure

[@hescominsoon]

@@jeebusk name a wind project that isn't serviced without government subsidies....same for solar, and Ev....

[@jeebusk]

@@hescominsoon my ass, quite often passes air (it can be noisy and annoying) and no govt subsidies I'm aware of.

[@jukebox_heroperson3994]

I think that the problem with a whole lot of US bureaucracy, isn't lack of resources, but lack of competence. Which comes as a result of complacence, probably since 1991, or even before possibly 1945.

[@allenschmitz9644]

TR circa 1890's?

[@PlanetFrosty]

Off shore wind is showing signs of salt water issues.

[@allanrichts7620]

Biggest hoax ever 🤣

[@Aaron-kq5kk]

Criminally undersubscribed channel. Thanks for the consistent and high quality content Sal.

[@robertlevine2152]

Sal, I agree with your comments on MARAD using the Center for Naval Analysis for studying merchant shipping. While I hold the US Navy in high regard, it is hard to not forget the Zumwalt Class destroyers and the Littoral Combat Ships. There is a basic difference in the merchant marine and the Navy. The merchant marine is based on the premise of making money. Whereas the Navy is based on spending money. Yes, the Navy has to operate under a budget and congressional oversight. If they fail to stay within budget, they can wait for the next budget cycle. If a commercial shipping company fails to make a budget they risk going out of business. You mentioned US shipbuilding. From someone who spent their career working with commercial shipping (oil) companies, we always blamed the demise of a leadership role in commercial shipbuilding on the Navy. The Navy believes in time and material, and cost plus contracts. Whereas commercial shipbuilding must live in a fixed price market. Besides the schools you mentioned, don't forget the University of Michigan, MIT, Webb Institute, University of California Berkeley, University of New Orleans, to name a few of the schools where many of the world's naval architects and marine engineering are educated. Bob

[@perstaffanlundgren]

These large amounts of jobs is only in construction fase,if ever. The developers of the wind farms tend to call out to high numbers of workers needed ,probably to get the involved country/ region on the hook. I also think that wind turbines at sea should be done with vertical rotating axles . Can be tighter stacked does not, lise effect from turbulense from up wind turbines ,can be ancored to the bottom with wire chain (floting instalation) Easy to build easy remove . Less moving parts ,more durable. Does not kill birds as mutch as the fan type. These type of turbines are coming out on the market now and will probably be the winning design at most locations soon.

[@nigeldawson5960]

A great channel. Would it be possible to do a video about how US flagged tankers transport fuel for the US military. I read today, that there's a proposal to put marines aboard these tankers. Maybe a subject for a future video from someone who knows what's real and can explain it clearly. Thank you.

[@wgowshipping]

I did this video last month on tankers and armed guards. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6nJnqeGZt2Iq7Msi=7qhZ-siGd_ERgEpx

[@RonPike]

Crazy that I found this channel! So consistently interesting and fun to watch. Helps that I am in Seattle and near shipping! Keep up the great work Sal!

[@wgowshipping]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@JohnSmith-qy3cc]

I'm in Denver and can't get enough!!@@wgowshipping

[@jrat104]

Hey Sal. I love your videos. I have learned so much from watching. Can I suggest a new series. "Shipping stories we forgot but are still in process" 1st episode is that port that caught fire after the earthquake. What is going on there? I feel that u get more info from your take on things. Thanks again.

[@KutWrite]

As to that study, I infer from the selection of the CNA that the Maritime Board already knows what its recommended strategy will be, and just wants the right holy water sprinkled on it. when they say they'll 'engage" (act like they're listening to) "stakeholders" (insiders), I expect it will live up to the motto "Everything government touches turns to crap."

[@greenthing99100]

good luck with the six oilers paper! this is a great channel, i'm so glad I lucked into finding it. both my grandfathers were merchant mariners, one a hereditary waterman and lighterman on the Thames, the other was catering manager for Cunard on the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth. I am a biologist, educator and artist living with motor neurone disease but 2nd world war naval history is a longstanding interest. thanks Sal.

[@warrenjones744]

Why did I get the feeling from the get go that the offshore wind experiment is going to be a huge expensive disaster where no one wins especially the so-called beneficiaries?

[@jilbertb]

How well do these windmills handle hurricanes? 😮

[@bradfordthompson8326]

Cool Shows Sal.....Are we wrong to incourage multiple fuels Hydrogen, made at sea wind Sails, Diesal,electric,methane...Why not ...one way isn't effective eVerywhere.....?????.or.......Companies that do this could be more Competitive.. ?????

[@jameshennighan8193]

ZERO CARBON Zero Carbon is an unnecessary extravagance and a nonsense. Carbon is important, but not for the reasons commonly put forward. It is not a pollutant. We need more carbon not less for the world to function. Continuing lunacy from the Politicians.......and the UN. James Hennighan Yorkshire, England

[@MichaelMcgarrity-ys8wf]

Wood fired Steam is 100% renewable and Carbon Neutral. It seems odd but Chopping Trees is the solution.

[@joelferguson8714]

I could never support wind power if just for the bird's. Besides the fact that it cannot compete with oil.

[@Halli6163]

Do these turbine installation vessels in US waters need to be adhering to the Jones Act? I know they aren't engaging in cabotage, but they are operating heavily in US waters, seems a case could made?

[@VictoriousGardenosaurus]

About a third of the way through 'The Path Between the Seas' Thanks for the recommendation

[@SuperDave_BR549]

so berry berry sorry Sal, uncle sugars minions are far too busy learning correct pronoun usage to be bothered to do anything maritime related. you know like how the ntsb turned out.

[@ieatiron]

In my opinion offshore wind have to be able to stand on its own legs. Otherwise its the wrong path for sustainable development.

[@kp6215]

Nobody has any money in California because food inflammation is 25%.

[@TheMitchyb61]

Shouldn’t be putting those things out in the ocean anyway.

[@MichaelTracyCA]

Great episode, very informative.

[@OGFC]

Small nuclear reactors!!

[@AugustusTitus]

You should do a crossover with @Ward Carroll at USNA, he is a former F14 RIO.

[@wgowshipping]

I know Ward well.

[@Syndr1]

Hi Sal, im a big Fan 😉 of Wind Farms.

[@jeebusk]

I'll wind your farm...

[@tinkwilkinson9446]

Green in panic. Is it real?

[@JK-zw8ec]

Thanks!

[@vincentmedina1040]

great job sal ! keep it up. All the union guys in LA appreciate it 😎

[@wgowshipping]

Thanks Vince!

[@darrylhermann5505]

Does the UK have an equivalent to the Jones Act?

[@wgowshipping]

No.

[@PlanetFrosty]

That maritime strategy is for “snake holders” as in that ol’ Ozark Snake Holding preachers! Don’t get bit.

[@allenschmitz9644]

WWHHD.....what would Hank Hill do.

[@anonymousAJ]

Most commentators pronounce it Ursala von der Lie-in (like hippies on the floor)

[@wgowshipping]

😁

[@seanmurphy2302]

It wasn't very nice of your Camels coming into my home county and thrashing the Hawks, last weekend. Oh well.

[@georgelincolnrockwell14]

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