What they don't want you to know about electric scooters

[@CoasterRob]

I like the idea of scooters being introduced personally I'm not in a position to own a car and a e scooter would be a perfect alternative

[@davidatherton5659]

There was a meeting of the Transport Committee a few weeks ago about e-scooters. A number of participants from various interest groups attended (including the police, partially sighted and, er, Halfords). The obvious takeaway was that everyone knows e-scooters will be legalised and they just want the government to get on with legislating to make it as safe as possible.

[@fastfreddy19641]

The government needs to get its finger out and set up some standards and leagalise scoots. I'm 58 years old and had my first rides on one while on holiday in Fuertaventure. It was great.

[@andremartin8169]

I am 70 this month and just brought a scooter for the first time. I am the proud owner of a Pure Advance Plus, I received it on Monday the 13th and love it. It's built so safety conscious with steering technology that makes it so stable and it has indecators in the end of the handlebars and footplates, powerful head light and rear light that includes a brake light and folds up so small making it easy to store. If the government used this as a benchmark for leagalizing e scooters a change in the law could be in place by the end of the year. Government need to pull their finger out and it would deter people buying dangerous ones.

[@SeeDaRipper...]

@@andremartin8169 Unfortunately you can't modify Pure scooters (where's the fun?) you should look into Xiaomi ( Possibly the first to mass market appeal )i.e the new 'Xiaomi electric scooter 4 ultra' (although i'm happy with my modded M365 pro 2) happy scootering...Oh, and i'm just about to turn 50 next month (just numbers innit)

[@andremartin8169]

@@SeeDaRipper... well you will never have a leagal one then, as they will not pass to be registered as that's almost certainly what they will need to be with reg plate like the current rental scooters. I want mine registered and on the road leagal and the speed they do I am quite happy with.

[@SeeDaRipper...]

@@andremartin8169 Well just goes to show what you know then, as you believe 'modding' is all about speed.🙄

[@NunchucksHabit]

I'm 53, got my first one earlier this year, Apollo Ghost, and I'm in eastern Canada. I have another one the way, an Apollo Phantom. Officially, they're "illegal" beyond a certain wattage & speed, but our city police have better things to do & I'm one of the 'good guys' - always with a helmet, never faster than vehicle traffic, proper lighting - my new one has signal lights - never on a sidewalk with pedestrians on it, and when passing pedestrians on trails, I slow to almost their speed so there are no surprises, etc.. E-scooting is very, very dangerous, I know. I've ridden motorcycles of all kinds since I was 10yrs old this is quite a bit more dangerous. Pot-holes are worse in areas that get snow, and with 10" wheels, you have to know your path very well. Keeping in mind, my scooter goes 66km/h (1200w per wheel), that is not a safe speed. It's the best thing I've ever bought - I used my car twice in the last 3 months. It feels like you're flying. Fold it up, throw it in the trunk, walk into a store with it, keep it in an apartment closet for the winter. A backpack becomes your grocery bag. I go every day to get my food for the day because it's fun. But it's dangerous. You're on a stick & a plank with wheels smaller than Ron Jeremy's schwantz, and you're capable of near-motorcycle speeds. Old farts like myself are the best candidates for these since we're not insecure enough to recognize how dangerous (for the rider) these things are. We're up against some bad apples doing their best to get these things outlawed (passing pedestrians at almost highway speeds), passing vehicles, playing "vehicle/bicycle/pedestrian" roles as convenient, and even holding GoPro selfie sticks while they do it. Do NOT ride an escooter with one hand, ever. We're also up against people who want to outlaw these things because they themselves don't want one, or they hate fads, or they think lazy bylaw creation is the answer to all "police don't have time for this" scenarios. Environmentally, no question - these things are incredible. They use the precise amount of energy it takes to propel you. My car has 270hp (WRX) but 99% of the time, my engine's displacing more than it needs to just by being on at a traffic light. You'll go through brake pads, so try finding something with regenerative braking. Tires are tiny, so they'll wear out fast - but they're pretty cheap. Any bicycle repair shop can fix your brakes if you can't. I can't recommend these things enough. A little active enforcement of the rules (yes, I know, stress on the police who've better things to do) can keep these things legal.

[@kingkal81]

I hope the UK government does legalise eScooters within the next few years. eMobility is the future of Personal Electric Transport. Billions could be saved in healthcare if people choose active transport (walking & cycling). We should all start a petition.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

People are scootering. Let's regulate it, keep it safe, and give responsible people a clean choice in transport.

[@winniepeg2020]

They are not a clean choice after all lol A study from North Carolina State University dropped a bombshell: electric scooters emit about 202 g of CO2 per km, over their entire life cycle. That's in the ballpark of a conventional car and way more than an electric one.26 Oct 2023

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@winniepeg2020 That's a good point, although I have solar panels, so "net zero" for me. Problem is, our government are a load of pillocks who couldn't organise a proverbial in a brewery, so it'll never happen. In the interim, I saw a teenager on an eEcooter, the other day, smoking a joint. Talk about taking the mick.

[@juan833blue]

@@FatNorthernBigot The bottom line is... E-Scooters are NOT eco-friendly after all; not just dangerous; but also unsafe, unstable and for pedestrians, UNFORTUNATE.

[@Laurynas_LTU]

Yes, that's the content I want to see here! If you want to sell more e-scooters, do everything to get them legalised in the UK. I have a bicycle and a motorbike and I'm not planning on buying an e-scooter. But I see their advantages compared to other modes of transport. I strongly believe restricted limited e-scooters should be classified as e-bicycles and given the same right of passage. I loved the humour. For me, you can swear all you want, if you don't mind being demonetised by KZbin, that's fine by me. Honesty is undervalued. I see how you may be biased towards e-scooter legalisation but that's better for everyone. Regarding the e-scooter accidents - do not blame the tool, blame the user.

[@johnbow100]

I just took part in a consultation with my local council who are trying to reduce car use. Absolutely no mention of scooters in their plans at all, just pushing cycling constantly. I think scooters could bridge the gap for people like me who have no interest in cycling but don't want to take the car everywhere. Just legalise them already!

[@nicksapsford5002]

Ever since they started having then E-Scooter. After using the Line Scooters I decided to go out and buy myself one as it worked out cheaper then renting one. Since using it I use my E-Scooter instead of my car. I've even bought a rucksack and do my food shopping

[@SeeDaRipper...]

Ditto mate.

[@Merlin0216]

I got my E-Scooter (Germany) about a year ago and now I‘m selling my car for it. It’s not just much cheaper, more fun, more reliable and faster (especially in the city), but most importantly I can really own it. To be fair, driving at -10 Celsius during a snow storm at night is not the most pleasant riding experience, but it is STILL more fun than a car.

[@andresmontana4466]

I used to ride a motorbike in the snow and everything. Not sure I'd ride my apollo phantom 60v in ice. How do he batteries stand up in the freezing weather?

[@Merlin0216]

@@andresmontana4466There wasn’t any noticeable battery issues - mainly because the scooter isn’t stored in the cold and when i drive 10 - 15 km, the batteries don’t really have the time to cool down that much. The only real problem I see is a bit rust from the salt, but… yeah, not a big deal.

[@andresmontana4466]

@Merlin-ro9ee Thanks for the feedback. I need to build a heated storage box for my scooter. Don't want to store it in the house due to risk of fire.

[@Merlin0216]

@@andresmontana4466 Where do you charge it? Or does your scooter have a removable battery? We have a small „storage room“ in front of our house. It’s not heated in there, but it also doesn’t really cool down much below 10 C. But our german winters are also increasingly mild with fewer days far below 0 C.

[@andresmontana4466]

@@Merlin0216 Too much work to remove battery. I charge it in a gazebo in my garden. I've had problems in the past with lithium batteries not charging or working in the cold. I used to be a fencer and work out doors all year round hence why I know. I thought German winters got very cold. It doesn't get as cold as it used to here but it does hit freezing regularly and Li ion batteries hate it.

[@aliruane]

Fred is an awesome name because the keys are next to each other on the keyboard. Think of the saved time over a lifetime!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I'm changing my name to Qwerty!

[@timsatchell6713]

I am retired and live in Germany. They have a marvellous registration system for what they call "light powered vehicles". This includes e-scooters, EBikes faster than 25kph, 50cc m/cycles & mopeds restricted to 45kph, + a few others. Your vehicle must have a certificate of conformity. You take this to any insurance office from 1st March each year. You pay you insurance and you get a number plate appropriate to your vehicle and that has to be displayed on your vehicle. The plates are colour coded per year so are clearly invalid when a new year starts. Brilliant system.

[@firstthingsfast9292]

This is a PERFECT solution. For people who drive recklessly and give us bad press which makes the government not want to legalize them it is perfect as it goes in a system and can be in UK law.

[@afcgeo882]

Yeah, but the rest of the EU countries have none of that.

[@firstthingsfast9292]

@@afcgeo882 And? I dont understand your point

[@afcgeo882]

@@firstthingsfast9292 No, I suppose you don’t.

[@SeeDaRipper...]

@@firstthingsfast9292 For one, why are you flying the flag for a crap bus company? And two, why should scooter riders have to get insurance (which is a scam anyway) when cyclists don't?

[@Jimages_uk]

Living in Canterbury, we had the Bird scooters for a couple of years, although the scheme has ended now, and was not popular amongst the general population, I am sure that the main reason was because we have no real infrastructure for either scooters or bikes, and they tended to be ridden where there is heavy pedestrian traffic. I am a little old, and thought I would feel silly riding the scooters, but I downloaded the app, and on a few occasions, I did use them to get around. I am a long time road user, mainly cars and trucks, but have done a considerable amount of cycling as well, at least when I was younger. I would get an electric bike, but they are just too expensive, but if scooters ever do become legal, I will be getting one for myself. I never once felt unsafe riding them, and can put up with people pointing and laughing at a fat old man riding on his little scooter 🛴🛴🛴

[@Electroheads]

Good for you Jim! Great to hear you enjoyed it

[@andremartin8169]

Well I am seventy, and people only had good comments that I meet on my travels, the fact that mine comes with powerful front light and back light back of mudguard and footplates with built in break light and has indecators at the end of the handlebars and rear of the foot plates, riding in the road sensibly as though it was a motorbike stopping at traffic light and being courteous to other road users and wearing a helmet with rear light. If all e scooter riders were riding a scooter that's made to conform to the requirements that will almost certainly be set for them to be leagalised and riding them sensibly they would probably have been leagalised ages ago..

[@Jimages_uk]

@@andremartin8169 you are right, but the legislation was never in place, they should have set up the rules before making them available.

[@andremartin8169]

@@Jimages_uk but they will not do that for anything unless they see how popular and how they work out first, it's very unlikely they would have set up trial schemes if people had not started using the

[@davidpiper3652]

Fred is the perfect name. I just bought a scooter, the plan is to whizz to the local shops when (if) they become legal. I am 68 years old and slightly disabled with a heart condition that makes walking difficult. What could possibly go wrong?

[@kingatheist7231]

I've been riding an e-scooter for a few weeks now. I've grown more confident and use the road when appropriate (also got a helmet). On the most part, drivers see me and give way etc. Sometimes I have to be extra cautious as a driver is driving wrecklessly. Potholes are the biggest danger I've noticed and they are everywhere along with random rocks and debris. I still haven't injired myself or anybody else and unless I'm doing something wrong, I don't see how i can. Pedestrians get jealous because they have to walk, and drivers get jealous because they forked out a lot of money to travel. That's how I see it. The scooter has made things a lot easier and faster and would definitely reccommend to anyone.

[@XxBec3509]

You sound like a sensible rider. Weldone

[@pierfrancescodepaola2712]

Agree and I think I should do the same , if I’m not doing nothing wrong and I have helmet and I don’t go sooo fast ,I think the police around doesn’t care!! And I owned a electric bike ,but the e-scooter is so small and for work is a game saver

[@andrewsleight1]

I had to turn the ginger on my iPad all the way down to be able to watch this comfortably .

[@eclipsek0]

The fact that this is controversial whilst killing machiens on the streets of London aren't shows a lot about modern British society

[@keithramaphele4278]

I think Fred is a fitting name for a baby.

[@plunder1956]

I did work in London a lot for about 25 years. For part of that I did use a bicycle and a motorcycle. I am a qualified Motorcyclist and car driver now in my late 60s, yet I would consider getting an E-Scooter if the became legal. I still cycle, but I no longer visit London unless forced to do so. Why is Britain ALWAYS for far behind the rest of Europe on these issues.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

It's typical of our paralyzed government not to update the laws so more folks can get scooting and biking and our environments can improve

[@peterwillson1355]

Bicycles have been freely available for a long time, now....

[@Haimrik74]

I'm 48 and ride my escooter to work whenever I can. it can fit on the Train, ferryboat, subway, no problem! My concern is about young kids that don't have a drivers licence and know little to nothing at all about how to drive any kind of vehicle on the road. trafic lights and signals mean nothing to these kids. neither do crosswalks. So if you are to ride anything on the road at least you shoulb have to know about trafic rules and behave acordingly.

[@darrenrowley5646]

The main issue with all users on the road, cars, bikes and scooters is not knowing when to slow down. Pretty much most of any near misses are because people don’t read the road and do not predict potential issues. I’m a car driver but also used to ride a bike and I’m thinking about getting an e-scooter. Most issues I’ve had are not escooters or casual cyclists but the speed racer bikes wearing Lycra who don’t like to slow down because it effects there aerodynamics and if your in the way and they have to slow down well tuff luck. But I understand the bad car drivers to who have the same attitude. Remember people slow down when you need to and get your ego out of your backsides

[@davidmichael3189]

Bugger All E - Scooter Provision and Investment here in Lincoln where we have a Notorious Steep Hill, a Large Bypass Ring-road, and A Huge Student Population. Completely and Utterly dismissed my Rental Schemes and MPs at Local Level.

[@andremartin8169]

The infrastructure for e scooters, bicycles etc will not be improved untill the government see a need for it. I believe that one third of car journeys are under three miles and only the driver in the car. If we can get them off the road and replace them with mico mobility how much emissions would be reduced how much road space would be freed up and reduce traffic jams reducing further the emissions and time it takes to complete your journey. For me that's a win win and when the government see more people using micro mobility hopefully they will put more money into the infrastructure for proper separation from cars, lorries etc

[@endlessinspirationlifecoaching]

You are so absolutely amazing guys! absolutely love every min of your content. thank you from across the pond in Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 keep it up, really good job!

[@winniepeg2020]

A study from North Carolina State University dropped a bombshell: electric scooters emit about 202 g of CO2 per km, over their entire life cycle. That's in the ballpark of a conventional car and way more than an electric one.26 Oct 2023

[@eclipse_eternal8178]

I want them to be legalised in the UK however, I'm worried about the state of the roads because there's a lot of potholes and cracks. If they had bigger wheels or the roads were better then I think it would be great. I really support the use of other transport other than cars, UK government, get on it!

[@badabing8884]

Trust me, some car drivers (I would estimate 10-15% I have come across) will not learn to ride around cyclists giving 1.5m space because they don't know or don't care. So, not much hope for e-scooters.

[@Ontheroadtourism]

E Scoots are great where there is proper infrastructure and road surfaces, but horrendously dangerous where there isn't .

[@tombrough9914]

Thank you for this youtube video ... And for hitting the nail 100% on its head ... The plain truth is that correct infrastructure is key to reducing accidents and fatalities among all urban infrastructure users and getting more people to make the switch to PEV's. Unfortunately in the UK there is still a paint a line on the road (and assume it will never wear away) mentality to cycle path infrastructure although it is slowly improving. If I had any criticism of your video is that you skipped over the well documented evidence that indicates that having cycling (and potentially scooter) infrastructure actually also reduces the fatalities among pedestrians ... If we were all sensible citizens we would welcome more cycle infrastructure instead of turning the most vulnerable users into villains. Can we not import a few Dutch Urban infrastructure engineers and get this sorted for the generations to come ? Also if you could do an article on Road Safety Equipment for cyclists / e-scooter users that would be great ... We live in the L.E.D age yet sadly I see so many cyclists and e-scooter users (who come out under the cover of dark) wearing dark cloths on midnight black scooters and worry for their safety ... on the other hand I have seen a few that have made an effort to add under board led lighting to their scooters (or purchase scooters designed that way) which is very effective and brings a smile... How about it Electorheads ? One final anecdote ... on a recent trip to my wife's country of birth (The Philippines) I noticed how much effort had gone into adding cycling infrastructure and especially the introduction of (individually) solar charged "cats eyes" that charged during the day and came on at night (even marking out the cycle lanes with a different colour led) ... Yeah I realise we don't exactly get the same amount of sunlight in the UK but even so a commendable effort that frankly puts this G7 nation to shame !

[@lewwylately7467]

They need to make a scooter CBT. Anything under 15mph, you do the CBt and away you go, should be the same rules as a push bike for those. Then allow people with a motorcycle license (like me) to ride any vehicle on the road, with insurance and all the rules that come with that. So no bike paths or parks. Simply put; a days training for under 15mph, and you can ride pretty much anywhere within reason. Unlimited speed for us motorcycle folk, but only on the road or byways, EVER! And insurance, helmet, maybe a light form of MOT.

[@shaffermarkshaffer]

Whilst I appreciate the logic and sentiment shown here, I would suggest that the net benefit of cycle and scooter use over cars, taxis, buses outweighs any perceived safety risk. I do not believe the statistics are throwing enough light on how dangerous cars are to other road users compared to cycles and scooters. This is before we even touch on climate. With this in mind, perhaps we should maintain the light touch regulation for cycling and extend this to cover scooters up to approx 20mph (cycling speed). For more powerful bikes and scooters, appropriate regs would be recommended.

[@MusicClassicalVideos]

Good bit of statistically backed information. The only serious issue with scooters when it comes to riding is the condition of pavement. With high gravity center and speed combined with small diameter of the front wheel one will definitely fly face down if pothole is big enough.

[@MrVolodus]

I ride 90% of times to work on e-scooter. Rest is public transport (when drinking and so on) and car. E-Scooter is super cheap - I even charge it from solar, so basically free. It is faster in rush hour, it is fun and it is very compact so I have no issues having it in the office. What I like more on it over bike is, I can just grab it and go. No preparations, no extra showers, no sweat, no extra cloth washing and if elevator does not work, it is easier to carry it than bike (because it is smaller). But I do have almost direct cycling path from home to work so that is huge factor.

[@Cashfizzy]

The government gets dumb on us

[@TobyGilbody]

when are the UK GOV gonna wake up and sort this out

[@andrewwhite1065]

Not enough thought or investment has gone into safe, reflective high vis., light, breathable, water resistant and good looking clothing. Specifically designed for scooter use. Lights are OK but when riding at night its the first time thanks to your video, that ive noticed that the rider and scooter blend into the inner city nightscape and traffic. Granted scooter deaths might be extremely low, but too many of us put ourselves at risk of being hit wearing dark non-reflective clothing. I also ride an 'extreme' skateboard that can easily reach a speed just over 50km/h and no on-board lights. So i gotta rely on the clothing...reflective anke bands etc., that are also more visible during the day. Long winded comment, but it might be an opportunity for boutique clothing maker in the UK to make money and provide rider's with the right kit.

[@CadillacJack]

I want to buy an escooter, but it's illegal. When will it be legal.

[@winniepeg2020]

They are going to look at them again in September 2026😬

[@ThePhosee]

Absolutely great video, informative and fun.

[@alancarlyon3928]

Unfortunately the world has got lazy over the years in almost every department! Take away, Starbucks, dog walking, grass cutting/ washing and ironing maids, ready meals etc - You name it, you will be able to find a service for doing the chores you cant be arsed too do! Don't get me wrong there are many parents that are having to work long hours to pay for CHILD CARE, or to pay their mortgage and car/s, so they are hard pressed to prepare a meal, but the other chores I have mentioned could be accomplished! Big savings to be created by yourself/s and at the same time burn some body fat! I am a pensioner/carer and I do between 10,000 to 25,000 steps a day, while trying to avoid electric buggies and EV scooters on the pavements! Obesity has sky rocketed since McDonalds and Co came to our shores! Unfortunately our police has gone lazy too! You never see a policeman on the street/s. patrolling our roads etc, we - the cash cows are left to go alone! Pot holes on every street, motorists speeding! So where is our taxes going? Excessive MPs in west minister - standing room only! That's a lot of wages standing in the house of commons, which some are nodding off, or watching porn and at the same time they are being paid from the cash cows we are taxes! Yeah am a moaning old git, But we need a government who will listen to the people and bringing pride and dignity back to the British people! There are to many of us who turn a blind eye, or just ignore the problems in which they see, no one bothers - so why should I! WRONG! My pet hate are those who turn their driveway base with those red chip stones which find their way onto the pavements and roads! They are hard and do so much damage to the road/s and pavement/s, let alone pedestrian's who could go over on their ankle by standing on these stones! Obviously I will receive bad replies from lazy folk - but that will be their exercise for the night! So if you see a problem in your face, report it to your MP/s! We pay their wages - So get them involved in what problem/defect you see in your community!

[@billfranks6805]

Love your video it been far to long waiting for this law to be passed let's hope some mps watch an take note👍

[@SeeDaRipper...]

A concise rational understanding of why E-scooters should be legalised (and i'm talking ownership) after suffering a fractured spine and smashed heels after an accident, my electric scooter has been invaluable (and fun to boot) as opposed to using an electric wheelchair to get to A to B quickly, and dare i say less embarrassing (this no slur on genuine users of wheelchairs as i can still walk, it's just the pain afterwards) and to be honest i don't need one. i also resent having to pay companies and be restricted on where i can and cannot go either (Voi, Lime Et Al) so as a mode of transport they should be made legal, to own and be road/cycle path approved (with a bare minimum of a provisional license). This should be shown on terrestrial TV as the scaremongering red tops of this world unfortunately still have bearing on MP's and non progressive types.

[@mattus1gig]

Another fab informative video 👍 I retired my scooter after the met police got their SS badges and started jumping on scooter riders. I went for a chinesium folding ebike, it’s 1500w @55v and no pedalling required so it’s illegal, but the goose stepping plods can’t run that fast 😁👍

[@TheSnowwraith]

The issue with the study is that it's based on the rider share companies, whose scooters are speed limited to their respective countries (mostly 20kph). I'm fine with escooters having a speed like that, but the problems/accidents occur when people buy the beefier/faster scooters. There's a greater chance of an incident with the decreased stability that other commenters have stated. I would welcome the German system as commented by Tim Satchell below where registration would be a requirement, and the addition of insurance for the faster vehicles would be a must. I look forward to the day when I can buy a scooter and use it legally (I'm not laying down money until then) because me knees are bad and cycling is a literal pain.

[@alphaomega5721]

Use the voi scooters in Oxford regularly. Great solution. Just a technicality: electric vehicles are either coal, nuclear or partially renewable fuelled. They're not fuelled by batteries and neither are they zero emissions. Even renewables have emissions due to the manufacturing and maintenance processes. But the smaller EVs such as scooters and ebikes do push fewer emissions than ICE vehicles. But there is no such thing as a ZEV.

[@joules531]

We have to be careful comparing pedestrian injuries caused by scooters vs cars. This is because the vast majority of e-scooter riders are replacing a pedestrian journey, rather than a car journey. So if we are comparing deaths and injuries, we should be comparing those caused by scooters vs walking. And, quite obviously, few pedestrians are killed or injured by other pedestrians, than scooters. We also have to recognise that with the majority of e-scooter trips replacing walking or cycling, rather than driving, and with half a million people in the UK dying from inactivity, if we get to see large numbers of walking or cycling trips replaced by scooter trips, we are going to see a significant increase in the "inactivity" death rate in maybe a couple of decades time. e-scooters are a good thing, but only if they actually reduce the number of car journeys, and only if their use doesn't become so ubiquitous that we ultimately end up seeing major increases in deaths due to inactivity in the future.

[@tconnolly9820]

E-scooters are a great idea and tool for urban commuting. But as someone who constantly advocates for cycling and rides a bike regularly for commuting and utilitarian use, it is sh1t scary watching people on scooters weaving in and out of traffic day and night, with no hi vis or lights with reckless abandon. All they have to do is hit one pothole with those little wheels and that's gonna be a world of hurt. Young kids zooming around housing estates at daredevil speeds on their new Christmas presents with absolutely no supervision. I was waiting at traffic lights in my work van with my indicator on to turn left at 1am recently and just as the light turned green and I started to move off to turn left, a suicide jockey on a scooter blasted past me on my left going straight ahead dressed in dark clothes and with no lights front or back. If I had been under pressure and running late, I could have been hitting the accelerater harder and moving off to swing left much faster and that gobshite could have been responsible for leaving some dents in the side or back of my van and on his way to hospital or dead. This is what gives e-scooters a bad rep. I was shocked by this near miss. But if he had managed to kill himself I wouldn't have worried about it too much apart from the dents on the van and just nominated the little fncker for the Darwin Awards.

[@Electroheads]

Certainly a lot of idiots out there (in all forms of vehicles, I'd say), that's why the answer is to create separate infrastructure for each vehicle type

[@tconnolly9820]

@@Electroheads Thinking about replying to your response I suddenly became aware of how tense and agitated I had become and how my heart rate had elevated. Yes, it is true about a sizeable proportion of everyone out on the roads from pedestrians to truckers and everything in between are dangerous to themselves and others whether that be through ignorance or arrogance. I recently saw a video of a probably high on drugs thug who filmed himself deliberately knocking an old man off his bicycle on another section of that same road. The old man is alive but hospitalised. But as someone who drives a white van for a living and has had countless near misses (and one or two non misses!) with idiots on bikes and increasingly now scooters, I make a point of having my bike lit up like a Christmas tree at all times front and back along with indicators and mirrors and always wearing a hi-vis summer or winter, day or night and ride like my bike like it is another vehicle on the road with consideration for my safety and other vehicles too. If I'm going to get plastered to the road by someone in a white van or anything else, it won't be because they didn't see me or I cut in front of them when they were turning left. Infrastructure makes a huge difference and it's so haphazard and poorly planned so far I find it worse trying to use it for a short stretch until it ends and then having to get back into the road again. It's bad but it has to start at some point and hopefully gradually it will improve. But lack of infrastructure doesn't justify someone behaving like a daredevil suicide jockey even if there isn't any actual infrastructure. About half of everyone out on two wheels of whatever kind seem to fall into the category of the above described suicide jockey or at best are just blissfully unaware of their own vulnerable position among other traffic or visibility. Breath in......... Breath out......... I think I have managed to relieve some pent up stress. Now I'm going to hook up my bike trailer on my bike and head out to town for about 40kg of shopping with absolutely no cycling infrastructure in the 6.5km between me and the supermarket. And no "e", just me! 😉

[@melhiore]

Best presenter in Electroheads Team. Truly enjoyable content...

[@antcullimore3550]

Thanks for the facts that cut through the crap. Here in Tasmania the road rules were changed recently to allow scooters and one-wheels on minor roads (any sized motor - speed limit 25kph) but I have no idea what the accident rate ramped up to after that law change. I presume nothing of note or the press would be having a field day. As it is the only thing that comes up is bad parking when the hire scooters are dumped any which way on city streets giving people with impaired vision a hassle. It seems to me, an elderly boomer, that scooters are indeed a great way to travel in cities. Finally, I enjoy this channel, the information and the freshness of presentation. In the words of Old Mr Grace - well done everybody !!

[@markanderson7432]

Fred’s a good name, quality video 😂 I just pissed me sen, “RONNIE PICKERING”

[@knightime14]

It seems that everybody would be safer if we were all in cars.

[@Electroheads]

This is why you were bottom of class

[@knightime14]

With grammar like that, I wouldn't go questioning people's intelligence. You missed an entire word you genius. Unless it was your intention to sound like Borat. I think your patronizing insult was supposed to read "This is why you were bottom of YOUR class". You're welcome.@@Electroheads

[@3dtrip870]

Across the pond here, although I am riding nearly every day, I have to take that freedom as a privilege: integrating escooters is a no brainer, come on UK! Thanks for the data, good to know

[@featherstone5051]

From Texas here, yes, wtf are our city planners doing indeed! Starbucks is gross.

[@ChrisHirner]

I like to ride my scooter in small town america. I dont have much trouble other than people following too close and trying to overtake you when cornering from one street to another. My scoot can go well above the speed limit but i like to go 20 mph for the added range. As a former road cyclist i feel like i got alot more respect as a 15mph bike than on a scooter. Hell they would give me more leeway on a 50 cc moped with half the power of my electric scooter. Its more than likely a familiarity thing.

[@michaellupton1593]

Yes, we need data and evidence based decision making on this issue. I do think the infrastructure element is key. What would a legal regulatory framework for e-scooters look like? Can you suggest such a framework to Govt, otherwise the legislators may draw up an impracticable one...I can’t imagine many of the MP’s have any experience of e-scooters...maybe I’m wrong... Plus it does not matter what the data says as soon , heaven forfend, a toddler is bashed to the ground in the park by a fast e-scooter...just watch the reaction.

[@danmx5]

You are very entertaining! Well done electroheads employing this guy!

[@Electroheads]

Thank you kindly!

[@riggedforepic6293]

Brilliant, this video made me smile 😊

[@o00scorpion00o]

The real danger is not cars because cars are using infrastructure designed for cars, you can't suddenly mix a 15 mph scooter with high speed traffic and not expect people to get pissed off. Most of these escooter riders have no insurance and this should be essential and confiscate any escooter using foot paths.

[@davidhughes7665]

Don't want them on the payment dangerous

[@markbosher542]

Great video and factual. Had an e-scooter for a year and it is great to ride. In France was simply super easy, with dedicated cycle lanes, and safe. One reason I think the UK is super slow on getting these legal is they generate little income for the UK government. Yet they are cheap to run and own and are environmentally great for clean air in cities and towns. Come on UK, get your finger out!

[@Gr33nMamba]

Having tried one of the previous VOI Schemes, I'm convinced they are necessity to help us diversify our travel options and get more commuters that are doing, a handful of miles out of their car, on their own. Unfortunately, some of those deaths, including a 12 year old in Birmingham, should never have happened and that was not a fault of the device or the established rules, by many these get seen as toys and that will continue to happen until the Government finally sort out some legislation defining what kind of vehicle they are, what they need and what you need to be on the road or segregated route, legally. I would also add if they do get kept at 15mph with a restrictor then helmets should still not be a legal requirement, its another hinderance to getting people using these options.

[@normski32]

I love my Scooter, from getting from A to B. I wish it was legal, I wouldn’t mind paying a fee for insurance to the government.

[@lilleybarnes6967]

It would be interesting to know how many of the deaths from escooters were because the rider wasn't wearing safety gear.

[@richardhintonracing]

So it is so safe no one ever need wear any protective clothing .So widen all the roads in Britain.

[@skotwilt]

theyre extremely safe and unsafe both lol. you can die in a car the same you can die on a motorcycle.. i wrecked my e-scooter at 20mph. have a stage 3 ac joint separation.. had a helmet on, but thats it. had a big backpack on, let go with one hand and tried to shift my weight, at rhe same instant we t in a little dip in the road, threw me right off.. if i hadnt let go, itd been the same little dip id rode over a hundred times. the best lesson, is to Respect them!! never underestimate them, and Never think its ok to let go even for a second. i have an arich f15 that goes 48 mph. and id much rather be on it, than in a car. unless its zero degrees out or just pouring rain, im takin the scooter!

[@tinyphreak]

You forgot the s in the httpS of the URL for Electroheads... just a... *heads* up.

[@jlb4685]

The title had me like ''oh god here we'' go but the information and FACTS here are a huge welcome. For far too long there has been demonisation and misinformation around the supposed public enemy #1 of the roads that is the e-scooter.

[@Electroheads]

Yeah that was part of my reasoning for the headline - fight fire with fire (before then spraying jets of water all over it)

[@99slayer99]

Bro you're pretty funny, the baby Fred thing got me.

[@Electroheads]

Thanks mate

[@paulrobinson373]

Fred, Good choice 👍

[@StephanieG1]

This presenter is the latest graduate from the Jeremy Clarkson School of Presenting.

[@StephanieG1]

Sorry my comment was rather rude. I just think that presenters on television and KZbin should have confidence in their subject i.e.that it can stand in its own and be interesting and informative to without recourse to constant humour references to pop culture and general flashiness.

[@Electroheads]

I just can't help being constantly funny

[@andyhorton1472]

Great Vid. 👍 my only experience of scooters is seeing the crazy scooterists in Bristol flying about. You deffo need your wits about you.

[@Electroheads]

Thanks. I'm a Bristol lad, and the last time I was there I saw three kids riding on one rental scooter. Definitely weren't old enough to have provisional driving licenses either. I'm definitely not claiming this stuff doesn't happen!

[@benglasgow]

I'm only over a minute in but the editing is A+

[@SwiftyScootersTV]

Thanks for the helpful stats Electroheads. Great video.

[@K.L.A.S]

What town and country planning in the US. there is none. I went to Georgia and that place has no pavements. the speed limit is 45Mph in most places but you can do 15mph over that before you get into any serious trouble

[@garygrinkevich6971]

Its true the infrastructure in the usa is particularly bad for any vehicles other than cars, but I also enjoy their current loophole status and the freedom to ride with no insurance or registration.

[@chonkyseals4431]

What are you getting into using an e scooter in the uk today?

[@Beggars-Belief]

The police don’t bother no one where I live in Essex just on the out skirts of london…. They can’t even deal with the kids on motorbikes and quads doing wheelies at 50mph, they just drive past them so they ain’t worried about ppl on a little electric scooter

[@longzero]

I must have missed the guaranteed reply part when I became a member. This is the worst channel in history! How dare you support your points with science and data! What do you have to say about that? All kidding aside, it's great to have data on this, because so many people keep seeing micromobility as something more dangerous than cars.

[@daveroche6522]

Seems to me it should now be called "Electro Big-heads" - they've started banging on about having 100,000+ subscribers - "Who'd want to mess with someone with 100,000 subscribers?" asked one of them a few week ago. Repeated a week or so later by a different "witty" presenter [Laugh? I nearly started]. Well, they now have one less (I'm gone).

[@josephmarsh8235]

The truth is simple about the heavy vehicles that can do more damage to pedestrians, cyclists and Scooter riders and the danger is different. The only problem is though, look at the number of people wanting to pass their driving tests! Look at the number of cars increasing every year on the roads! Look at the numbers of people with disabilities who can't even use micro mobility. The real truth is.... Choice!!!! People are choosing more to drive rather than anything. Also how can you tell a Lamborghini owner to switch to cycling when they wanna listen to a V12 or a Range Rover owner who wants to sit in a luxury vehicle? I think another thing is, according to many is most people ride terrible. So, the problem is choice and behaviour really, and that'll never change for years.

[@johnpeace23]

These should be OK to use, I have a car but for short journeys I would leave the car on the driveway and use a electric scooter, brilliant modern transport solution, cheap to buy and use,I fancy getting one now, but the law over them is stupid, so I'm going to wait until i know when the law changes?

[@neilfordham5790]

I have difficulty in walking any significant distance, I have ordered an electric scooter in the hope that the government will change their mind (sic) about E scooters. Surely if they are used sensibly they will contribute to the government goal of us being nett zero. Of course there will always be those who are not responsible just as I see every day in drivers of any vehicle. Perhaps your research paper from Europe could be sent to the Minister for Transport to support the cause. Sorry it’s so long I’ll shut up now.

[@itchywitchy]

I'm an old fart and I'd love an e-scooter. I live in a small village and an e-scooter would make it much easier to get around. There are a few teenagers around here that ride e-scooters and I think that they are brilliant. I wrote to my MP to see if he would support legalising e-scootersa, if everyone did that maybe things would change. Also, I'd like to see Ronnie Pickering as a guest presenter, it would be great to see him squaring up to that ginger bloke.

[@johndunford6082]

Got through to the Ginger quip without even noticing you were ginger, does that make me the perfect viewer?

[@slarti42uk]

Fantastic video, had me cracked up. Was there any reference made to the issue of scooters causing harm to pedestrians, any numbers on that? I see that being made as an argument against scooters. I feel like the slowness of the government here in adding these to the law books, is a mix of things, fear of adding loop holes, and risk of loosing out on tax revenues among them.

[@Alan_Watkin]

i use a throttle ebike it goes about 30mph and i think traveling with the traffic in towns is safer than going far slower than it, the UK law's are stupid, i always use a helmet, as far as im concerned im doing no wrong

[@truthiscensored]

The irony of using data from the very countries that give e-scooters a bad name...Scooter rental companies

[@_techtron]

Fred is a good baby name.

[@aye3678]

Good to see you, Richard! :D

[@Electroheads]

Thanks!

[@afcgeo882]

Can we have some unbiased, 3rd party data to work with though?

[@orchidhouse297]

I do wish cyclists would go electric, especially in the country. One pedaling cyclist struggling to climb a long gentle hill at 4 mph, followed by a tractor and trailer hauling hay bales, with no chance to overtake on this winding country road, had accumulated a queue of traffic over two miles long. Imagine the pollution this was causing with the long line of cars in first gear. An electric bike at 15-20 mph would have been a lot greener and safer.

[@XxBec3509]

Birmingham to ban them due to a 11 year old sadly passed away and the number of other deaths aswell around that area and being banned on LU etc etc because of the fire issue .. looks like escooters were a daft idea. Escooters have the same problems globally

[@steveo4991]

Should have watched the video before making a fool of yourself.

[@XxBec3509]

@steveo4991 The decision to halt the Voi e-scooter hire scheme came with many in Birmingham followed an incident which left a teenage boy with life threatening injuries in February. The teenage boy sustained life threatening injuries after the e-scooter he was riding collided with a car in Balsall Heath at 5.30am.3 May 2023

[@steveo4991]

@@XxBec3509 Cool story but irrelevant to the point.

[@blackhatter1980]

a push bike or E bike is just as dangerous the government are going to have to legalise E scooters due to public pressure and them not going away any time soon

[@landocycle]

Very well said.

[@eBoard3R]

⚡🤙🏼 *Bsn anyond called Ronnie Pickering from ridin an eScooter,* problem solved 😂⚡

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Could I point out one interesting statistic? If we assume that the majority of Daily Fail readers are among "the working age population" of the UK (32.84million) The average daily circulation of the "paper" (784,273) indicates it is read (or at least bought) by 0.86% of that population. The opinions of less than 1% should not influence policy?

[@Electroheads]

This is some smart thinking 😎

[@normyanke2515]

ebikes are more often electric motorcycles, the sellers know what sells, maybe they should be accountable

[@lionman3376]

good man...

[@ZanyWabbit]

We are waiting to see how the government can get money out of Scooter riders before it is legalise.. I have a full bike and car licence, so can ride any bike or drive any car, I'm happy to buy an E scooter, a better one than the goverment endorsed one, insure it etc, and wear helmet etc.. I'd even get better lights and indicators.. Thanks for an informative video and all the data, let's hope the government pay attention.

[@hartoz]

This data is fine, when you are considering the shared e-scooters, but it does not take into account the privately owned imported scooters. Many of these have fake CE marks, and dodgy batteries and do not adhere to EU or UK Regulations. Some of them are capable of speeds in excess of 100kmh which is downright dangerous on a device that has a wheel with the circumference of a tin can. Add to that the batteries which explode because they do not have decent battery management systems, which have caused many homes to burn down and people to die. E-Scooters like other motor vehicles need to be regulated and need to adhere to a determined standard, currently with privately owned scooters it's like the wild west.

[@radleyg9486]

Great vid….

[@maddavvid2339]

If you have a driving license, you should be able to ride a electric scooter or a electric bike End of

[@featherstone5051]

give the baby a teddy bear, call the baby freddy, and the bear freddy's teddy :")