What to AVOID When Buying Humvees off GovPlanet

[@wefful97]

Solid video. Only other thing I would advise about is the actual model itself and what generation it is. Newer generations come with hundreds of improved and upgraded parts like 12k half shafts, differential coolers, stronger idler and pitman arms, ext. which may need to be replaced or will wear out quicker right out of auction if its an older model (early 2000's and before, or high mileage on gen 3 and below). Most people think all HMMWV's are the same which is not the case. Gen 1: M998/M1097/M1045 ext. (1984-1993) 6.2L, 3 speed, most common components will need replacing (idler, pitman arm, ball joints, tires, bearings, ext.) They've likely sat for decades neglected in the elements. Can get them privately owned from $12k+ Gen 2: A1 series (M1097A1,ext)(1992-1993) Not many produced. Some improvements from Gen 1. Gen 3: A2 series M1045A2, M1123 ext. (1998-2005) MOST COMMON ON GOV PLANET (M1123) Gen 3 is the absolute bare minimum you should by unless they are giving it away. The 6.5L and 4L80E Transmission are critical and will cost you more to install aftermarket than included in the purchase price difference between an A0,A1 and the A2. The 4L80E is a must have and the cost of parts and install is around $7,000 alone. The 6.2 to 6.5 engine is basically no difference. 6.2 reliability is reported to be better, actually. Basically the same engine with minimal torque and HP increase. Gen 4: ECV Series M1167, M1165, M1151, M1152. (This is preferred) (2006 - 2011). Easily identified by the extended nose, 80mph spedo, factory A/C, tachometer, Wilwood brakes ext. First to feature the game changing 6.5L Turbo engine. This is worth some $$ (around $5,000 - $8,000 for parts and install. and it TAKES OFF. Massive upgrade and makes on-road drivability much more feasible and enjoyable.), factory AC (another $2500 - $3000), many upgraded drive train components, 12k half shafts, much better cooling, LED dash lights, improved everything basically. The M1165's commonly come with hard tops (with built in turret support and delete cover, making adding a turret a drop in, no need for the rare 10xx b-pillar turret support) and the iconic hard curtain. Add X-doors (if not included) and you're set. If you want a hard top, want to keep it cool inside, get less wet (yes, you will always get some water), or want a turret, this is the way to go: $7,000 4L80E $3,000 AC $2,500 Hard Top $1,000 Rear Curtain That's an extra $13,500 right there. And it wont be the correct roof or back for an ECV. Impossible to get your money back out of it. Decide what you want before you buy. Cheaper to buy with correct add-on's at auction. Gen 5: REV Series M1167A1, M1165A1, M1151A1, M1152A1 (2007+ REV-B Serial Numbers 300,xxx+) Best HMMWV AM General has to offer. Reliability Enhanced Vehicle Everything the ECV series has and a massive upgrade to cooling (now drive train geared fan drive, not hydraulic), cooled differentials, upgrade to drive train and wear components, 24 bolt rims factory stock, parking brake enhancements, air lift brackets, ext. Know the generation and value of what you're looking at in auction. An M1123 can have a value difference of $30,000+ compared to an M1165A1. Decide what features matter to you and compare the price to aftermarket add-on's to determine what they are worth to you. Military correct is the name of the game for value, aftermarket is always valued less in resale. Private vs auction - will your state title a HMMWV? Will you have to go through Utah/Vermont for title and tags? Is that a big deal to you? (Looking at you, Cali). Hope this helps some. HMMWV models and pricing is nearly never talked about. Know what you're buying and bidding on!!

[@abc-ed1nr]

Very helpful post. Where did you learn all this info?

[@wefful97]

@@abc-ed1nr alot of time on fb groups, forums, everywhere hmmwv is discussed. Took me about a year to map out all the different generations and their characteristics.

[@habibdemon21]

I'm upset I can only upvote this once. Great info!

[@TorturedPeace]

Wow! I’m gonna need a PDF for future referrals!

[@umustbbornagainActs2-38]

Copy and paste into my notepad. Thank you so very much for taking the time to put this here!

[@thomasfry7608]

Great vid. I would add the following (from experience) in reference to the 4 speed (4L80E) transmission specific vehicles. When GovPlanet inspects these vehicles, they only drive them around the yard, not out on the highway. They ONLY guarantee the transmission shifts 1, 2 and Reverse. The M1151A1 I bought would not shift out of 2nd gear. The way to figure this out is by the videos attached to the auction page. Look at the transmission malfunction light in front of the shifter. When the start switch is in the "RUN" position, engine off, the yellow TRANS light should be on solid. If it isn't, there is a problem, either with the light itself, the TCM (Transmission Control Module) or some wiring in between. With the start switch in the "RUN" position, engine ON, the light should be off. If it is on, there is a problem; either with the TCM, wiring (connections if you're lucky) or the transmission itself. Be careful. Fortunately for me, it was a TCM issue and the transmission didn't have to come apart or be replaced. If you've already bought the vehicle, there are some great vids on youtube on how to jump the A and E ports on the connector and get the blink codes out of the module to help diagnose the issue. forums.g503.com also has some very useful write ups.

[@jasont7814]

I watched this before I bid on my Yermo Humvee and it was extremely helpful. I got a great M1123 for $12,800 with doors, a top, and troop carrier top. The tires looked great, but had some flat spots from being stationary for so long. You’ll undoubtedly need to buy new tires.

[@Kevin24Seven]

Glad you landed on a nice rig!

[@adamzeng6343]

Oh wow. Its so cool to see the new humvees for auction right now. Was part of the earlier buys for humvees, purchased back in 2014 when the first few batches of them came out. Have a m998 from SC with 35k miles on it with the 6.2 and 3 speed. Its been a great truck and it was mechanically sound. Got surplus hard doors and did a good cleaning of the inside and flushed fluids as well as got an airlift bumper for it as well. Been great to me!

[@proberts34]

I found it odd that you refused to say what blow by is. I'm sure you have your reasons, but I don't know what they are. Engine blow-by is when combustion air and fuel leak through the piston rings into the crankcase, usually due to worn piston rings or a damaged cylinder wall. Check for it by removing the oil fill cap while the engine is running. Smoke coming out like it's an exhaust pipe equals blow by. I think I explained it faster than the time you spent saying you weren't going to explain it. Glad to help. 🙂

[@MegaAli213]

I'm looking for a good now. Thanks for the video. U.S. Desert Storm veteran 1990-94.

[@darekwdrodze6361]

I just got one -great truck -greetings from ny

[@maddrummer910]

I only live an hour and a half from yermo, excited to buy mine!

[@ernestodelapena4014]

Thanks! It is very helpful of buying or auctioning! Good job!!

[@dieselburner4461]

Yesss!!!!!! Keep making videos please even about the most simple stuff .

[@umustbbornagainActs2-38]

Thanks for this tutorial. I am just beginning to research buying a humvee off govplanet. I know very little about the H1 so this was very helpful. Can this be done on a modest blue collar salary? I’m fairly proficient at mechanical repairs on my own vehicles for many years so i hope to do most of the maintenance and fix up myself for my possible humvee purchase. Thanks again!

[@twinshobbytwinshobby3863]

Very well explained! Thanks for the detailed video

[@texassingh1027]

Thanks for all the good information … trying to buy one …

[@Biotouchless]

My purchase has been perfect. Good video

[@Kevin24Seven]

Thank you!

[@TGEJesse]

All the Yermo m1123’s including this one was a 2009/10 rebuild and basically sat in the desert for the last 10+ years. Just got mine, and man it’s like new except for the dry rotted stuff. Yermo 1123’s are a buy for sure! Avoid Georgia trucks!

[@Kevin24Seven]

Mine actually came out of Georgia and it was brand new as well more or less. I think its pretty dependent on the truck tbh.

[@dieselburner4461]

I bought my 2009 rebuild this June! Waiting for EUC . Located in LA

[@Just_a_Proud_Dad]

100% agree. Mine was a heavily armored 1123, in dark camo. Not a scratch on the undercarriage. Brake and gas pedal look brand new. Pretty happy with it for sure.

[@brammathews9186]

What are guys paying for shipping and who do yo recommend. I’m not crazy about having to ship one from Cali to upstate NY but the one coming out of Yermo do look better.

[@Kevin24Seven]

@@brammathews9186 I paid about 800 bucks to have mine shipped from GA to MO but I really am.nkt sure what the average is. I think budgeting about $1500 would be on the safe side. I think Cali is a good bet because very little rain or moisture but my GA Humvee was rust free too.

[@guyblew1733]

Thanks for this informative video.

[@JamesDavis-jo9tk]

The 3 speed hydramatic trans in the older ones really isn’t that bad to have. I know from personal experience that they’ll cruise 75 mph plus with a healthy 6.3 engine. It’s a much more simple design than the 7.5 with over drive. Many 6.3 models were remanufactured after 9/11 in Kansas and reissued for quite some time through 2015.

[@thomasfry7608]

I think you mean 6.2L in the early ones and 6.5L in the later ones

[@JamesDavis-jo9tk]

@@thomasfry7608 yes you are correct. Thank you

[@jeffkolence1786]

What is the best time of year to get a good deal on a decent Humvee in California

[@jerrylewis7702]

if i may add something - if you know you are going to swap the engine & tranny (eg 6.6l duramax with allison), mileage is secondary, would you agree? also, switching the vehicle over to 12V and changing all the instruments helps a lot, too.....

[@weldonwillingham5626]

Where do you get the replacement parts you mentioned such as the gauges.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

just saw on a western champlin video he replaced his temperature gauge and thermostat with one from a chevy diesel and it worked fine

[@Jacob-oq3uv]

Ebay, gov surplus store. Just google what you need and sometimes on the forums they have alternatives to GI parts.

[@randy-x9f]

Best thing is to buy a complete as possible one and when you get it home pull the diesel, rebuild the tranny and stick a nicely built small block gas motor in it.....then get rid of 24 system and you will end up with a fun vehicle......

[@tomelroy]

The difference between a 6.2 and 6.5 is not even noticeable (if they are both running strong) and the 3 speed is emp proof, 700r4 upgrade makes it better than the factory 4 speed. Rarely would you see 5 stars when only 4 are available:) Somebody touched up the paint with a rattle can in under 10 minutes...and that unit has been completely repainted....its not the original paint...and the pedals have paint on them overspray all over the vehicle. The engine only fire up instantly if everything is good...fuel....glowplugs...pump...etc...this motor is a reman that has been painted. The tires and rims are even painted...My advice dont fall for the paint....find one with original paint and look at every pic closely....at the end of the day buying a used vehicle is a gamble, particularly if you can not test drive!

[@brettknoss486]

6.2 is no longer in production.

[@TorturedPeace]

Great vid! I learned stuff! Who knew?

[@knight7512]

can a person buy extra parts like tires ,alternators and whatever maybe needed when buying a hummer from them like if a person wants doors or extra soft top , able to buy extra parts from them as well

[@billyraematthiasonian4598]

Yes, but it's very expensive

[@Jacob-oq3uv]

Yes. You would have to buy in bulk.

[@jamesogara2219]

Fantastic video thx.

[@allenkranawetter9482]

What's the average price for a set of tires for Humvee ?

[@woof3598]

what if I need parts ? can I buy new or is every thing going to be used / what about insuranance ?

[@fauziparman4744]

Ask buy m16 Raifal new on long sharp on 800 tauzen

[@toucansam3217]

This was helpful. Thanks.

[@Ron-pv2of]

Actual price out the door is 13,920 after state tax and Richie bros buyers fee, always figure that extra 20% as you bid. After winning the bid, you get to do the EUC (end users certificate) always a lot of fun, 2-3 months on that.(that is your title release from the government, you cannot license a government vehicle without it) Most of these vehicles have sat for quite some time, most have bad batteries, 2 huge 12v batteries set up to run 24v . Best to buy the quality military replacements, Usually need at least 2 new tires, hunt those up local or e bay. Now some of the communist states will not issues titles because they do not meet emissions , some not a problem. All that said, these Humvees are really great off road, for the price their hard to beat. NEVER buy any military vehicle without a title, no MVD will issue title on a (Bill of Sale) anyone trying to pass that load of bull on you is FOS.

[@darrenbarrass3650]

How hard is it to get your humvee road legal I’ve heard it is illegal to drive them on public roads

[@williamspence3511]

Know all about it's, US Army 20 yrs, gulf War too

[@gregrasmussen9915]

This one was obviously re-CARC’d do going off of paint and paint wear doesn’t help, it was undercoat sprayed which is a bad sign (salt water rust). Not a good humvee

[@fauziparman4744]

Ask buy New hamvee 400 tauzen on 250 tauzen it pickup truck 150 on box color on digital green

[@sekhoncarrier]

I got one how long take to clear euc already one month

[@ESLinsider]

Did you ever see hum vees on Gov planet that didn't have keys? Any thoughts on that? Been seeing some old USPS vans with no keys. One with part of the ignition hanging down by the floor. Maybe I am paranoid but worry it's a trick to cover up some serious problem. Like is making a new key that hard?

[@christiancarlson8304]

HMMWV's don't have keys. You know that, right? They have an ignition switch that is just a start lever. They secured them by running a chain that is bolted to the floor, through the steering wheel and locked.

[@ESLinsider]

@@christiancarlson8304 I didn't. I've been looking for an old postal truck there not a humvee.

[@ernestodelapena4014]

My concern is ,what’s or how is the process of paying the item that you won on that auction?

[@Kevin24Seven]

I've always just done a wire transfer through my bank, there are probably other ways though.

[@skidz8426]

I know this seems like common sense but research a couple of trucks. Don’t assume you’re going to win your first auction.

[@deddie4645]

Can you go and pick them up in person when they release them

[@beastwerks]

Yes you can...HOWEVER... you are going to need an equipment trailer! These are heavy and most importantly WIDE so they may not fit on a standard car hauler! Since I got mine fairly close to where I reside, I just contracted a carrier thru Veritread on the GovPlanet site and had it delivered to my location... a lot less hassle & lost time on my end.

[@fauziparman4744]

Been put money on digital account on army fortrey on 500 milion dollar

[@johnspeer9244]

What was you winning bid and to your door price? Basically, I curious about the extra fees over the winning bid.

[@hummerguy]

For me, won at 11,400, fees and tax added to 13,770. I'm going to use Uship once it gets approved, most people on there get them shipped for 1k depends on the distance

[@Whataguy2322]

@@hummerguy awesome, how long did you have to wait to win a bid?

[@hummerguy]

@@Whataguy2322 You mean like the EUC process?

[@Whataguy2322]

@@hummerguy Sorry, The point you decided you wanted a humvee to the point of actually winning a bid

[@Jacob-oq3uv]

Depends on the condition of the humvee. Door and roof prices vary based on hard/soft.

[@fauziparman4744]

Ask extra on new boot America war on yellow and black

[@jacksarebetter]

And stuff like that

[@travislupum]

Anyone wants to trade a humvee for an excursion here in arizona let me know 🤣

[@charlyrodzz]

QUESTION!! Can anybody buy them, even non US citizens/Residents?

[@Kevin24Seven]

I believe so, depending on what country you are from. I get a good deal of Germans telling me they bought one actually. Assuming by your good English and name you are probably Canadian? I know Canada can for sure.

[@charlyrodzz]

@@Kevin24Seven Actually Mexican, im gonna research a little more, im really interested. Thank you

[@Kevin24Seven]

@@charlyrodzz gotcha, figured it was one of the two! That being said Mexico shouldn't be a problem and depending on where you are at shipping might not even be too bad since many of them are in California.

[@Jacob-oq3uv]

I was told you can't from Govplanet. And that you would have issues shipping it out of the country. Germans and European countries have auctions in their own countries for them allowing them to buy from my understanding.

[@beastwerks]

You will likely have to buy one from the country you reside in... ITAR requirements restrict sales of US Government items to many foreign locations. There's a disclaimer in the GovPlanet information section addressing this.

[@newlunarrepublic8469]

The reason why they leak is because they're supposed to be semi-submersible

[@howy4prez]

I'm still having a bad experience

[@williamspence3511]

That a Diesel, most is good, the paint cause cancer paint over it.

[@fauziparman4744]

That all thanks!!??

[@fauziparman4744]

Ask buy cotton roll on green brown new America war on England celoreng on 400 tauzen roll

[@brammathews9186]

I can’t believe you sold your truck. Why ??Would you tell us for how much?

[@Kevin24Seven]

About what I had in it and because I wanted to do more stuff with my real passion which is motorcycles. I am still going to make vids with the guy who bought the Humvee though.

[@brammathews9186]

@@Kevin24Seven wish I knew that my other passion is motorcycles I would have traded ya my Milwaukee 8 street glide for it. And stop telling everyone how to buy a good humvee on govplanet there won’t be any left when I can afford to get one. Lol.

[@Kevin24Seven]

@@brammathews9186 good point lol, I wonder if I've had any affect on the sales. I am looking to get a night rod, but currently took partial trade for an Indian Chief. I like it but it's not quite my style. I'm only 26 so still love going fast and used to sportbikes lol.. but I am loving the cruiser life too..

[@brammathews9186]

I’m hoping on getting a humvee next year as retirement project after 25 years in law enforcement.

[@Kevin24Seven]

@@brammathews9186 congrats man and thanks for doing what you do!

[@twoheebsandabean2860]

Tell me you've never been in the fucking military army marines whatever without telling me you've never been in the fucking military scooter

[@fauziparman4744]

Ask for free gift on vest army and England army helmet it new America war same celoreng on cotton roll

[@chaddavis8751]

My m998 with the 6.2 runs 65mph daily just fine. Its all it wants but it does it just fine. Stop spreading misinformation. It's also cheaper to buy one specd the way you want as far as 2dr vs 4dr. GOOD top and door parts are not cheap

[@THEKBOSMAN]

You sold your Humvee?

[@Kevin24Seven]

Yessir!

[@AnthonyGman]

@@Kevin24Seven how come?

[@Kevin24Seven]

@@AnthonyGman The Humvee was no less reliable than any other off road rig, but I just got tired of wrenching all the time. It was almost like a second job every day after work. Usually upgrades which is great but even though I am pretty good at working on cars I would much rather just drive them. My real passion is Motorcycles and car racing so I am putting the money towards that.

[@user9b2]

Could be interesting if a company would convert them to run on electric.

[@jasont7814]

Just get a Prius dude.

[@gavinlightfoot5521]

Hummer ev. Though it doesn't really look like a humvee and it's Hella expensive.

[@beastwerks]

WHY? There aren't charging stations on battlefields!

[@gevura147]

blow by is a bad head gasket

[@Moonrakerd]

avoid buying a humbee :DD