What to do if you run out of drivers hours

[@stevegregory2867]

Can you do a video about the law& driving hours,after a 2 hour drive then broken down waiting rescue&repair for 5 hours.How will this affect your driving hours plus another break down north of Watford gap driving back to yard.

[@theurbantrucker]

Hi Pete, back in the day we never used to run out of hours using the Analogue tachographs (Paper Cards) Run out of time just take one out and put another one in with a different drivers name on it, it's amazing how many names I had back in the day lol, the scary thing is it was common thing back then, I worked for companies that would expect you to do it to get the job done. Somerset House must have a melt down with all these drivers changing their names every 5 minutes....🤣🤣🤣

[@alexrobinson2281]

Ha ha 😂 ain’t that the truth

[@TheDaf95xf]

Morning Pete. That’s a great explanation of drivers hours. I think you should keep them going as it’s important that drivers really understand the rules 👍🏻 Cheers Stevie 😎 Take care take money 💴 lol 😆

[@stevecampbell7589]

You never guess what Pete? I was on the M1 south last night. Just passed Northampton services which southbound services being closed and I was in slow moving traffic and the front nearside tyre gone flat and almost ripped off. I was heading for Newport Pagnell services to stay in the hotel. But recovery brought me back to Northampton services northbound and no hotel here. So had to slum it in the back of the horse box which seems to be the best sleep I have had in a truck with king size bed above the cab and a kitchen sink and a toilet inside too. I'm heading into Northampton town centre for 10.30am to get a bus to London and then a bus home. Leaving the truck here for the customer

[@godzillas6301]

Good on ya pete . The only thing i would add is if you find yourself unable to take a break before time take a print out at both the time you do make that break and also more importantly at the end of the shift . No need to eject your card by the way . The reason you do 2 is because if DVSA stop you between the now late break and the end of the shift your in big trouble without that print out . The reason you then print out a second time at the end of the shift is to show the late break wasnt the end of the drive so you didnt take the piss , ignoring your hours aiming to just drive back regardless ( another reason to not eject your card ) because thats very very naughty ... im not saying anything you rebel :-) . Other thing is if anyone does say sod it and eject the card at some point the trucks going to be downloaded anyway so your vicious crime against humanity will be revealled ... and your TM will call you a vegetable .

[@andyphennah4203]

Also you can use upto 2 hours extra driving hours in a week. To be owed back. Only to be used to get the driver back to the yard. Before driving the extra 2 hours and 30minute break must be taken followed by print out. Note on the back the reason for the extra driving hours.

[@kevintaws5936]

If you started at say 6am Monday and work until Saturday-6 days .But have run out of time. You can have your 9 or 11 hour break and carry on as long as your parked up before the time you started on the Monday … ie 6 days in a 24 hour period as long as you make up your rest period by the 3rd week.

[@divineprovidence803]

The right course of action is to find a safe place to stop however you could remove the card and drive without it if you want to return to base but it's risky.

[@edwardwilcox6606]

The best thing to do is to jack the job. It`s all about control, keeping hard working truck drivers under the thumb. Why would you make life so difficult for people that are so important in keeping a country operating? Instead of stupidly arcane hours rules, dangerous speed-limiters, the insane lack of drivers facilities & safe parking, why don`t the authorities spend a far bigger proportion of vehicle tax on our infrastructure to actually make the job tolerable?! There will always be a drivers shortage because in a word the job is crap.

[@NR3HGV]

my sentiments exactly

[@earlgrey691]

Because the bigger picture is there's a catastrophic but intended economic meltdown coming to theatre's near us all imminently with a probable world war being choreographed into the mix thus all bets are off ultimately.It's the traditional way 'they' usually reset things in a war based economy.Wear those high vizes though.Health and safety see?

[@1thehandyvan]

And that is exactly why I’m sticking with a 3.5T van

[@jesuispalestinien9108]

That's why you are at £25k and; he's at £50k

[@matthewdoyle3877]

@@jesuispalestinien9108truck drivers are not even paid £20 per hour in London you prat

[@BenMiles-c3u]

If you had a sleeper cab for instance, would some companies ask you to sleep the night on the road?

[@spanners1985]

Morning Pete.Not sure if this might be an additional revenue stream for you.I’ve just suggested via Twitter to Truck and driver magazine whether “HGV buddy days” might be an opportunity.Why?I’m doing cpc end aug for 7.5t with a view to class 2 dec but have only driven 3.5t to date.Having the opportunity to be a passenger in a 7.5t and then a class 2 another day would increase the chance of passing my exams and the haulier would get...£49.99 per day?UK is desperate for truck drivers.Hauliers need money.Win win?depending on your personal view of covid risk and being in a cab with someone else all day of course.

[@jacul3697]

morning trucker Pete👋👍

[@anwarbouzzite368]

Hi Pete what is the best age van to buy because some companies won’t use you because the age of the van cheers mate

[@Thegreat772]

Been driving hgvs over 10 years. No problem until last week. 11 minutes over 4.5hrs. Last night same again 🤦‍♂️

[@aDmaNN266]

Up to 15 minutes over will be no punishment if stopped, unless you do it often and taking a piss

[@tarrenteenwolf]

I was pulled by vosa once and when they read my card they spotted I’d driven 6 hours without a stop. I explained that I had a delivery to Leeds city centre that day, couldn’t park at the job and had driven round for a bit to find somewhere to park and couldn’t find anywhere so headed for the only place I knew which was a lay-by on wood head pass and rested there. Told them the address I delivered to and where the lay-by was and said the timings should confirm what I said. They excepted it and gave us a slap on the wrist after showing us the read outs on the computer. This is only because they could see that i was always within my timings and it was a one off and I’d written it down the day it happened.

[@davidduncan1683]

You couldn’t find anywhere to park between Leeds & Woodhead? WTF!

[@tarrenteenwolf]

Glad you weren’t vosa 😂 Don’t know the area well and could of wasted more time looking for somewhere but opted to drive directly to somewhere I knew I could definitely stop, have a break and a pee. No one died, goods delivered, driver and wagon returned in one piece, job done. 👍🏻

[@davidduncan1683]

Take it you drove straight past Woolley Edge services on your way from Leeds to Woodhead Pass?

[@tarrenteenwolf]

@@davidduncan1683 Yup 👍🏻

[@Martin-rk9sf]

Nice video Pete

[@leshmahagow364]

DHL ...... professional drivers ... and planning ? Nice you believe that 😊

[@douglaslindsaygray2494]

And the police will say . You should have stopped earlier No matter what you come across Accident traffic jam Maybe you have time to get loaded and you tell the customer I must be out of here by a dertaian time which will give me 45 minutes to find parking they will hold you back deliberately

[@das5813]

Not strictly true. I've taken tachograph out at night and in the morning put another in legally. The tachograph or digicard is YOUR record of work. Therefore if you leave that vehicle for whatever reason you must take your card or chart out of the vehicle. It is no longer under your control and this applies anywhere in the world. If you want to get a taxi to somewhere else for the night or even home, that is entirely up to you. Further, the regulations stipulate that you be given extra time to move the vehicle to a place of safety. As happened to me when I had a tyre burst on the hard shoulder of the M40 and had to await assistance and repair, your not allowed to overnight on the hard shoulder so your allowed to move the vehicle to a place of safety whi includes a place where you can get refreshments and food and toilet even if it means going over the drivers working rules.

[@waynegoody3919]

Straight As A Die The Man Is,,This Is About The Truth Of It,,Ain't Easy Out There No More,,"THEY SAY PLAN YOUR ROUTE",,So Know We're All Clairvoyant!! Knowing Exactly Where The Traffics Gonna B,,As For Pulling Cards Thats A Big NO NO,,As That Is A False Record Of Your Working Day For Starters,,The Heads Still Recording Everything Whether Cards In Or Out,,As For The Old Days,,,,I'm An O/Operator,,Never Swapped Charts Cause If anything Like A fatal RTA We're To Have Happened U Would'nt Get Out Of It,,They'd Investigate Deep,??,Who/When/Where,,Drove The Wagon??Same As A Card Know,,,,U Still Got The Old 2 Card Boys out There!!!!!!!!🙄,,Good Vid,,Says It Like It Is👍

[@PetetheCourierDriver]

Absolutely and thanks for the input, I'll read it out in the Q & A on Sunday.

[@DannyChristie-s6j]

@@PetetheCourierDriver can I have some advice ?

[@stanthemafia]

My merc said I had 2 mins left. I was just about to pull over a few feet away and it went to 4h30. I hope I don’t get any problems

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

I've done 4.45 before now. Not a problem.

[@stevecampbell7589]

I cant drive with a card tomorrow when I come down your way. The horsebox I'm driving is too old for seat belts. It has a paper chart. But I am going to use a tacho app. Also, the truck doesnt have a speed limiter fitted. It does 70 ish which is an odd feeling. Its a Mercedes 814 in green. Registration Number J162 LLK

[@stevecampbell7589]

I am planning leaving SR8 3HS at around 5pm and hoping to spend the night at Newport Pagnell

[@dewzr]

As long you have spare working time You can drive a car or vehicle up to 3.5t as its treated as other work.

[@Revellien]

You can if you have run out of driving time but you cant if you are out of spreadover.

[@livingwiththis164]

Wait, so if you run out of driver hours in your truck, at your employment?, youre not allowed to then drive your own personal car? Or like you said, you cant drive that car of the person who came to rescue you? But i guess how would police or anyone know, unless youre involved in a massive accident. Nice vid btw

[@PeterBarton-m3r]

Better off driving a train now home every night proper canteens lots more money

[@HooliGaNu21]

Is simply… JustCall me Pete if I got some drivers hour I’ll go Pick you up. You drive back my car I drive back Alise. It’s happened before 😅 CX’ Dunstable and MK family

[@stevecunningham6537]

2nd video I've seen off u you seem to like running bent? Honestly not looking good mate. Excuses I've had a few but then again to few to mention. My friend I done what I had to do. I done it my way 😊