What to wear for Backcountry Skiing - A Pro's Guide to Layering

[@TheJonVidz]

Can we please get a winter camping / multi day tour gear bonus episode

[@JLucRob]

Yes, this please!

[@JordanGreenPNW]

Yes!!!

[@joshuajohnson8316]

I just came here to ask this same exact thing!!!

[@felixbernier8962]

Yesss please!!

[@caverpilot]

me 5! I was just happy to see massive packs on the Patriarch approach; I always wonder how people can carry less when I multi-day tour with the bare minimum and it's still a massive pack!

[@-tr0n]

Great video and great advice even for those of us sticking to the resort and hiking small back and side country lines. I regularly ride in -20 to -30C and simple base layering makes these days totally enjoyable, even if the lift up is a little painful in the wind. You don't have to necessarily buy the most expensive ski branded gear you can find, either. It's more about materials and less about high tech, especially if your life isn't completely relying on your outerwear. I have multiple Merino Wool long sleeves from Costco at like $20 each, Merino/Poly blend long johns from a hunting/work wear store, and a Primaloft puffy from the grocery store clothing section, of all places. I will add poly mid weight pants if necessary, but it has to be pretty cold. Combined with proper waterproof/gore outer layer, it's fantastic and so much more affordable than spending $300 on a down vest, $120 per merino base layer etc. Just keep an eye on deals and check the material tag on things you run across!

[@Treewizard]

You rock Cody! It’s such a wilderness out there when it comes to gear, and it’s very easy to spend a lot of money fast experimenting with what might work. It’s a huge help having your expertise and the confidence that comes with knowing you’re truly testing this stuff in the most extreme conditions.

[@rpearce1475]

Great video! I perpetually run hot except my hands, and the glove layering system was a game changer for me last winter. I prefer using gauntlet cuff gloves with removable liners that I can swap out as they get wet/sweaty. As to layers, I've become a big fan of the "hybrid style" layering system (Nikolai Schirmer had a good video on this recently) that omits the waterproof shell entirely and the insulator puffy becomes the outer shell. I'm in California though and this doesn't work in climates with lots of wet snow

[@ChrisProuse]

So well said - you knocked it out of the park! Love your "Be Bold Start Cold" line 😄

[@andyfpt]

Great video and I've got to say I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Arcade belts! I pretty much wear it daily including; skiing, mountain biking and golfing.

[@nilsnilsnilsify]

3:27 true dedication to your craft

[@andyjones3874]

Most of this applies to inbound skiing as well. I’d add pit and crotch zips to help manage moisture, and one thing that’s helped me after many years of cold hands. Pull off your gloves for just a moment when you feel any moisture. Not practical for touring but I do it in line or right after I get on a chair inbounds.

[@martinbailly573]

Best ever presentation on the subject ! Kudo!

[@Ohmylanta686]

Appreciate the wisdom from a professional badass 🙏🏻

[@andyeighttre]

Spare glove liners and balaclavas are a great way to help warmth if you get in a pickle. They add very very little space and weight in the pack. A second base layer top also so you can add a 4th layer up top if absolutely needed.

[@mcdick]

Excellent stuff. I'm no pro downhill skier, but I do quite lot nordic winter touring with tent accomondation. So several days of crosscountry skiing. My 2c: 1. As I'm in rathern cold & dry environment (-20C and below), I don't like the hard shell that much. Dry snow doesn't really get you that wet, it's the internal moisture that's the problem. Softshell breaths better (and I'm heavy sweather). For around 0C the hardshell starts to shine. 2. Dress so that you are chilly when you start. Add west for the start if necessary, but keep the layers so that you don't really get wet. If should be comfortable while moving, but if you are sweaty, you are wearing too much. 3. When you are coming to break, especially for the night, open up your wents and lighten up your layers even more like 15 minutes before you stop. That way you dry properly up before you stop and are chilly even with puffy on. In tent it really sucks to try to dry your gear with stove. And if it goes on for several days, your sleeping bag also starts icing up if you put moist stuff there to dry. 4. if it's sunny in the morning even middle winter sun gets rid of some moisture in the bag.

[@nathancornwell1474]

Only slightly related, but...I'd pay a good money for a "Buenos Dias" shirt if y'all put one out.

[@Salvatore7921]

Thanks Cody, always very informative and timely too. I’m hoping to do my first ski tour in January (France)

[@connergiven89]

Just stay warm by eating more pains au chocolats

[@Kariwable]

It took me awhile to figure out the cold hand dilemma as well- and now I also use a layering system. Same layers different brands and I wear mitts ( start with wool glove liners). Nice vid. Also I want LeBents. My glove liners are a Polartec wool blend and I wish everything I wore skiing was that blend.

[@devinrogers4885]

Thanks for another great video Cody. Tell Le Bent they need to make a quarter zip merino blend top layer! Nothing beats unzipping the baselayer when you're slogging

[@danielgrazioli1601]

bought a shake dry jacket. could not believe it! awesome. thank you for the hint!!!

[@juspetful]

Net base layers ( for instance from Brynje) are fantastic in regulating temperature and moving the sweat away. S They are available both as synthetic and Merino.

[@gabrielharton2743]

Very relevant, although I like ponchos when it isn't a windy environment. I'm pretty sure the poncho is more breathable than goretex jacket since it has more ventilation and the jacket and goretex isn't really breathable to my opinion.

[@benedictleslie1447]

Another cracking video. These make my week and make me excited for winter!

[@lorezyra]

MasterClass: Episode 2: The gear ❤️ it!

[@bikerdude923]

Excellent video, I need to bookmark it to send to people who are new to winter sports!! What about hats? I personally have found that I need to carry an extra dry shirt as I sweat even in a light windbreaker and light base layer, even on the coldest of days though I have found a few tricks to help stay cool, like I don't wear gloves or only very light gloves on the way up and usually no hat or just a baseball cap to keep the sun off so that excess heat has a way to leave before I start sweating. On the other end of the spectrum my wife has Reynolds syndrome and she always has freezing hands so wears thicker gloves on the way up. I have met others with Reynolds and learned a trick that really helps, which is wear surgical gloves as your base glove layer as they trap the moisture (keeping rest of gloves dry and warm) are easy to carry extras of and are super warm. Love the vids Cody, keep them coming!!

[@CodyTownsend]

Solid advice. Layering is definitely very personal.

[@chukamakalaka]

This was a gold episode

[@JS-yj7ow]

Yeah but... years of touring about Mt Hood (welcome to the neighborhood btw), I find you often can't un-layer enough to keep form getting wet. For someone who sweats as efficiently as I do, that's always been a difficult game. It's hard to wick moisture out, when the humidity is as high outside the shell, as inside. Never had a problem properly layering in Wisconsin (where I learned the art of freeheel - really), to hut trips in Canada (both providing many sub-zero bluebird days), but here in the PNW? I always have dry extras in my pack.

[@alexturner5023]

One addition to your hand layers you should check out. Nitrile gloves next to your skin. Forms a vapor barrier, and yes, it's clammy, but your hands will never be cold again. Total game changer for me.

[@zipperboy2008]

Re: belts, the best belt I’ve found is the arc’teryx conveyor belt.

[@jshatfield115]

good ole thermodynamics, and the enthalpy of formation! This is why sweat make you so damn cold so fast in the BC. A huge amount of energy is sucked from your skin when sweat evaporates. So don't sweat.

[@zbyswitta]

This video was awesome.

[@chriskutlina5743]

Thanks for such an informative video!

[@warrenreid7686]

Have you seen the heated Ewool vest-gloves and sock covers? 130° F on high (105° hot tub).

[@Seriksy]

If you're not going in rain, I thought softshell or softshell with a special membrane is the better option? Shell pants takes more force to move and they're not that stretchy, which in practice should make you sweat more?

[@jimicob9143]

great trick that helped me to prevent cold hands and feet a bit better: put on some fatty skincare or vaseline before you start. so the skin has a kind of protection layer against soaking up moisture/water/melting snow that got into your gloves/boots. saved my mimimimi hands and feet a ton

[@CodyTownsend]

Huh. Interesting. Haven’t heard that one. May have to try it out

[@jimicob9143]

​@@CodyTownsend give it a shot and let us know if it helped :) look for a skincare with a high concentration (don´t know if you guys have the concentrated Neutrogena hand creme in the us?) or go strait for the vaseline (which is really helpful against sticky van doors in winter, too ;) - cheers!

[@vivianwtang3983]

Loved this video and insight. The only input I still seek is more women-specific though, so I wouldn't expect Cody to comment on this! Women get cold easily because their sports bras hold sweat/moisture. I try to change as quickly as possible after activities are over or else I can completely freeze over in colder temps. Evo, do you have any advice? Any experienced female backcountry enthusiasts out there with some suggestions?

[@CodyTownsend]

Agreed! I definitely didn't want to comment on female-centric layering in this video because I was using my gained knowledge and admit to having little knowledge or expertise in that window. But perhaps down the line I can get a guest bonus episode host to answer your questions.

[@sachadee.6104]

wear bra without cotton/too much elastic. I wear 'ordinary' bra with underwire. That material dries up real quick.

[@ffdananderson]

Thanks Cody! What kind of glasses do you wear again?

[@CodyTownsend]

Smith Pursuits these day. Used to be Smith Wildcats.

[@metalheadmnw]

Hey Cody can you do the Newton line on Mt Hood again? You did it during the bike video last year but there wasn't much skiing from that line in the video. I know there's not much snow here right now though. Just a thought.

[@rushdunaway6183]

Very informative

[@henseaudiohouse267]

Fresh pair of socks. Change into them after you are up. Sooooo worth the hassle.

[@spacetimeworm]

Well, that's because water, and therefore you, don't freeze instantaneously at 37°. You'd need to kick it down to 32° or below, I believe..

[@cycleoflife7331]

Got any good crash photos of Micah Black at Snowbird for me

[@rvhmon656]

Le Bent for thw WIN!!!

[@jamess.7261]

Great stuff, Cody - how did you size your liner/glove/mitt combo to get things to fit well? It sounded like you use the Falt's liner plus the Merino liner together or do you pull out the stock liner of the Falt and just use the Merino?

[@CodyTownsend]

I uses size 9 for all the gloves. No need to oversize the Over Mitts.

[@slavachurinov1341]

cool video. But offering us some particular solutions would have been even better. May be two or three different kits of all the layers with links would be nice. Thanks

[@CodyTownsend]

I like prefer to educate and give people the info to then make decisions for themselves.

[@ajpeterson5668]

Wait so on your legs you only where one base layer and a shell?

[@CodyTownsend]

Yup

[@stevenqirkle]

Came back here to rewatch the advice about gloves after freezing my fingers yesterday.

[@gabrieldallas9770]

ID on that leopard print shell?

[@vincew4527]

HI, I have been wearing merino for years and I may have had the same problem you are talking about. What is (or are) the brand (or brands) of underwear that mixes merino and bamboo? Thanks

[@CodyTownsend]

LeBent is the brand I'm talking about in the video.

[@cypriano8763]

i find when it gets to minus 20c its hard to be dailed in on the up. sweaty core with cold hands and feet. cold core, frost bite on extremities. its annoying. like that glove layering thing

[@aaalllen]

I looked on the Evo link, but don't see your poles w/ the super long foam grip. So which ones do you use? They kind of look like Black Crows Duos/Trios

[@CodyTownsend]

They’re Salomon poles but just not available to public unfortunately

[@kaytlinr8526]

Check out Folkrm poles! They are super rad with a similar idea to what Cody uses, and Folkrm is a small Hood River brand (supporting small companies is dope!).

[@aaalllen]

@@kaytlinr8526 those look great. As a spliboarder, I kind of need adjustable poles though

[@kaytlinr8526]

@@aaalllen oh yeah adjustable would be a lot better for splitboarding :)

[@donalddarko3676]

What a surprise its salomon.

[@greengraycolor]

I love the 50 project and enjoy Cody but would insist that he says at the onset he is sponsored by Salmon. Perhaps on a related note, imo, 3l Gore is a bad choice for most so touring scenarios. It rarely rains in winter, why carry this heavy, poisonous piece of teflon?

[@CodyTownsend]

I wish I was sponsored by Salmon…my favorite fish in the world! Jokes aside, the reason for 3L gore is most likely one of our team would’ve died without it on St Elias this year…it’s the most effective tool for staying dry I’ve found and is your first and last line of defense.

[@greengraycolor]

@@CodyTownsend ups, damn auto correct... but sponsorship issue holds. Cool that you reply :) Redundancy and safety are important, agreed. But dragging a heavy jacket built for durability as a safety measure? It weights probably .7-1kg/1.5-2lb. there are 5x lighter jackets that are as waterproof. They may be 10x less durable but if they sit in pack unless shi.. hits the fan, who cares, it's going to save you even if it's damaged. Btw. You ware it when it's not raining on recent videos. As sick and sexy as you look in this outfit, it makes more sense to me as a product placement than good solution. I really love your adventures, though.

[@tjanson]

@@greengraycolor My 3l shell weighs 360 grams. I need it's durability because I ski outdoors, where there are lots of pokey things. I am often out in falling snow, wind, and yes, sometimes rain, so yeah, I need a solid waterproof jacket, not whatever you are suggesting...

[@craigrowe5840]

@@greengraycolor Yeah, but if you're in those situations, high in the alpine when things could go south in a hurry, don't make decisions based on weight. Not everything is an FKT.

[@ryanvdonk87]

@@greengraycolor curious what materials you're talking about? definitely some climates along the coast where you're skiing in high water content snow that might as well be rain, from my experience up here in the PNW, they definitely are not all equal.

[@thetraveljack]

Ogre’s are like onions, which are like skiers.. they have a lot of layers..

[@CodyTownsend]

Solid reference

[@dannyswayze2133]

We are all moisture wicking onions in the back country

[@gusrallim]

Hey bine

[@TheSkate2skater]

M O I S T

[@Ca_milo_G]

que buen español

[@JohnGM96]

Nono, wrong name of the gloves.. It's Fält guide glove, not fault guide glove. Lars Fält is a Swedish adventurer and survival expert, and the gloves ar named after him. Great vid tho.

[@CodyTownsend]

Yup. Dad brain got the best of me and didn't catch it before it went live. Doh!

[@returningtoearthtv8836]

What about the brains? Balaclava, buff, etc.

[@Theodinsson]

Cody's way of layering: always wear headwear

[@CodyTownsend]

Never not wearing a hat

[@kantarjiev]

Falt not Fault, I think?

[@kyle1376]

This just one huge ad?

[@procivitasluder]

This is great and so informative, but as a Swede I can't help but cringe a bit when The Glove To Rule All Gloves™️ gets it's name wrong. Lars Fält, this "Hestra fault glove"'s namesake, inventor and general bad ass outdoors person would not be pleased if he knew his last name (which actually translates to "Field") would be made into "Fault". It's just not right ;)

[@CodyTownsend]

Yeah, dad brain got the best of me and didn't catch it before it went live. Doh!

[@procivitasluder]

@@CodyTownsend Everyone can be struck by dad brain, it happens to us all. Cool of you to acknowledge/respond!

[@PapaKmurph]

socks bro

[@NateKnows]

Nice commercial

[@rianjarreau8022]

Aw shit, tell me what to wear.

[@horsebeef]

Corey Townsend is my hero

[@MrJoeycrackers]

Who is Corey?

[@meleinie7248]

Awww....Mediocre Amateur fan?

[@CodyTownsend]

All my friends call me Corey

[@solomonlafleur7520]

I love corey lol

[@juliusbulle]

hahahah

[@mball831]

A note on vasoconstriction and gloves: totally agree on the layering system for hands, but it’s also worth noting that sometimes warming your core can help your body warm your extremities. I’ve noticed that sometimes an extra vest or slightly warmer mid layer can help my hands and toes feel warmer even with the same glove system, as the body doesn’t vasoconstrict as much. Has to be done before your hands feel cold, however.

[@NicholasLeader0]

Yes also remembering to drink water / eat snacks will keep you warmer.

[@joshjaffe1796]

The glove recommendations are excellent. That mitt shell is so much easier to carry and super effective. One trick for the feet if you can pull it off - put on your socks as close to your tour as possible - don't sit in the car sweating in your touring socks for 2hrs before you go out. Also a little foot powder as a drying agent before you slip on those touring socks can help too

[@CodyTownsend]

Definitely good tricks and something I do everyday. Always drive to the TH in regular socks.

[@k2thah286]

I approve this sock messaging, even for day hikes.

[@darrenjakal]

This will probably bring some hate, but I have used neoprene socks in my ski boots since the 80s. Buy them big so they don’t squeeze your feet and wear a liner sock. Moisture is held between the outer liner sock and inner neoprene sock, keeping your liner boots dry (great for overnights). Neoprene provides an even cushion over your feet and does not become a soggy mess like wool socks will. This also helps to protect your liner boots. After many years I find that my feet don’t sweat that much. YMMV

[@doomtreat]

@@darrenjakal yeah the vapor barrier stuff is a real IYKYK. For extended days in the BC it is super helpful but it runs contra to everything that everyone has ever been told on layering. I've given up trying to explain this to people lol.

[@Dangerstophe]

I'll give this a try!@@darrenjakal

[@marklambert8111]

Yes, another informational video on backcountry skiing, just what I needed!!!😁

[@adamp1169]

One more suggestion for keeping feet dry I learned from a ski patrol buddy. Most of the foot moisture comes from sweaty feet, not exterior water. Try putting some antiperspirant spray on your feet before you put on your socks and boots, keeps everything much drier and warmer!

[@caverpilot]

@9:10 is actually "Fält Guide Glove" - This model is named after one of Sweden’s leading survival experts, Lars Fält, who was also involved in the development of the glove. (who knew? just learned from Hestra's site, thanks for the recs!!)

[@gnarlee4250]

Goddamnit Cody! There goes my budget! Looks like I'm not eating for a month. Hahahahaha as if the basic setup wasn't expensive enough. In all honesty, I keep investing more money each month to improve my entire setup which is more of an investment than an expense. Thanks for making the episode it truly helped!

[@EHSounds]

Can you give a Pro Guide on growing a cold-resistant mustache?

[@k2thah286]

Nice overview. Also, make sure when you buy outdoor clothing that there is some type of warranty or a way to have repairs made if you unforeseeably trash something. I have had Norrona Gortex pants replaced for free before due to delaminating layers, and that was really rad because they were beloved and pricey.

[@cvn6555]

Some of the high end stuff comes with lifetime guarantees with replacement or repair at cost or less. I believe Arc'Teryx does this.

[@k2thah286]

@@cvn6555 Darn Tough ftw.

[@espensletten]

Hi Cody, absolutely love your series! Do you have any suggestions for breathable liners? My feet and liners get soaking wet, even in freezing cold. All the best, Espen

[@JeffGuild10]

Moisture management is key. Not only does water conduct heat faster than air, it also transfers heat through evaporation (which is why sweating works so well for keeping us cool). Excess moisture in your clothing, especially close to your skin, has the same evaporative cooling effect of sweating. Cotton is such a killer because it collapses when wet, losing most of its insulating qualities, and If it’s right next to your skin will maximize the effect. There’s another aspect to this evaporative effect which can actually cool you off below the air temperature, but this gets a little (more) esoteric. Bottom line, as you emphasized, moisture management is key to temperature management.

[@ricewychrij]

Another great vid. I don't do backcountry, just standard piste snowboarding, but I'll definitely be using these tips when I'm preparing for my trip next year... I tend to get cold lol. Thanks Cody

[@erokrocks1567]

What sunglasses do you wear?

[@OrionsKelt]

For us big guys it’s usually just a base layer and a outer shell. If it is super cold, like in the teens, I’ll throw on a mid layer. I sweat so much and get hot so easily I couldn’t imagine wearing 4 layers unless it was below zero.

[@bennyummer]

i clicked through the evo link to "shop the entire 50 collection" and it pulled up 679 results. sorry but i just wanna know what kind of hedlamp you use. and thanks again for the best channel on utube!

[@ZoeKin]

Very funny, truth in comedy. I appreciated you acknowledging the black Goretex jacket looking like a trash bag. And all the other b-rolls.

[@nwsurf3696]

I have my pitchfork ready for the first down vote. That was excellent and informative, no wasted time and still fun to watch. Cheers

[@johnwatson8192]

I've found that a merino or synthetic string (mesh) vest under a merino base layers helps to prevent that clammy feeling.

[@JayBeBerg]

When I switched to merino baselayers I quickly realised that they were not performing as promised. They wet out and never walk dry. I thought it was user error and persisted, until I read that merino can absorb more moisture than cotton. After that I've switched to synthetics against the skin with possible merino layers on top (or not at all). It's smellier for sure. But, if you take a mesh polypropylene t-shirt and wash it right after wearing it, it'll stay pretty fresh and be dry enough to wear almost immediately. Also have to point out that close knit cotton outer layers (like Ventile) work great in cold climates, just not against the skin. Great topic for a video, cheers!

[@CodyTownsend]

Solid takes here Janne. Agree with ya on merino, I grew tired of pure merino pretty quickly when it didn't seem to do as advertised. Always a bit clammy and wet feeling. Switching to blends has definitely helped.

[@JayBeBerg]

​@@CodyTownsend Thanks, it's a never-ending quest for sure.

[@mikemcintosh9933]

Possibly the bet vid on this topic I've seen. Thanks!

[@TheOhfishes]

Coney Townsend really knows his stuff.

[@laowu830]

What do you wear on your head? I don't like exposing my face to harsh winds and would like to avoid sunburns. But I have a hard time to both covering my face and not have my goggle lens fog up:(

[@prdakhonza1434]

lol, another bullshit. bamboo Ryon is viskose fiber, it means it is totally hygroscopic. It is souaking wet as hell Never use viscose for sports. Yes it is super comfy, that is why we use viscose as base layer under business shirt, but not for sports. It was blended with merino because of smooth touch, but is making very bad job in moisture transport.

[@duncanwright301]

Cody - I’m curious about what moisture-wicking liners have worked for you. My experience with liners such as the perforated ones that come in an Atomic Backland is that the moisture wicks straight out of the liner, directly into the shell, where it then freezes.

[@ratta_tat]

Can I ask why you're wearing a non breathable shell? I have to assume it's because it's raining? I never go to my "hard" layers until I absolutely have to. Climbing in the least amount of layers and then putting on a puffy when I take a break really works for me. It it's raining....well, it's always good to have extra dry stuff in your pack.

[@duncanwright301]

Guess it won’t let me edit, but to clarify: boot liner + boot shell. Normally I tour in synthetic/wool hybrid baselayers+ shell pants and windbreakers, similar to Cody. I was specifically referring to his comment on breathable boot liners at the end of the video.

[@ratta_tat]

@@duncanwright301 ah! I see. Can't help you there, my friend. I just walk up hill slowly. Haha

[@JS-yj7ow]

@@ratta_tat heh, breathable or not doesn’t often matter in the Cascades. Sometimes your touring in high humidity!

[@ratta_tat]

@@JS-yj7ow true.

[@wesvannatter6172]

Cody, from the town of send.

[@onkelsort5381]

What a great video! :)

[@JohnDoe-lt9sg]

gollee man, came here for advice, listened for 2 minutes, got none, downvoted and left.

[@chriswoods2647]

As an "uphill athlete", the most useful - and cheapest $-for-$ - piece of gear I have is a very basic nylon shell jacket or vest. There's no getting around sweating if you're humping (not 'touring'.) So plain fleece is best for moisture management until it gets windy (or snowy). Then, a simple nylon wind barrier will mostly breath and keep the snow off while keeping the wind from cooling down the sweat in the fleece. It'll also add 15F comfort range. And it's very compact. Once at the top, it's add the full shells, top, pants, real gloves, and swap the headband for a hat.

[@jeanb7158]

Fuck yeah Cody gimme the fabrics

[@pluta83]

Love the video but what's with the music?

[@80sRadDad]

My feet instantly start sweating as soon as they are in ski boots…and forget about going uphill…any tips?! I’ve tried ever sock under the sun. I have settled on Heatronic socks that can be tuned on and off as needed as soon as my feet get cold, due to being wet

[@tmotten]

Biggest problem I've got touring is the back sweat from the backpack. Only thing that "helped" is bringing a change in shirt. Sucks cause it's bulky.

[@AlpineShenanigans]

Doesn't work in all situations but another thing that you can do to manage foot warmth (or honestly any part of your body if you're feeling bold about becoming your personal sauna) is making use of a VBL (Vapor Barrier Layer). Start with liner sock, put it in a VBL (at the cheapest you can use a turkey bag but some of the mountaineering companies sell actual socks and in that case you could potentially skip the liner sock altogether), and then put all of that in your main sock. This traps all of your body's moisture in the liner sock and stops your main sock or boot from getting soaked by sweat.

[@gijsvanlieshout]

Do you wear full-length base layer pants or 3/4 length?

[@CodyTownsend]

It usually doesn’t matter much to me, but if i had to choose I prefer 3/4 length

[@McGirr5799]

Do you wear basically the same thing of resort style?

[@CodyTownsend]

Yup, basically

[@JamesWilliams-vm2xm]

Great video