What was ancient Roman surgery like?

[@bruhjohniscool1437]

Modern medicine is a blessing but its cool to know rome made progress in the medical field

[@Darqshadow]

What they didn't adapt from other cultures they blended till they got something better. Rome was very much a Jack of all trades approach when it came to technology.

[@johnevergreen8019]

We wouldn’t have some of our modern knowledge if they hadn’t

[@s4tsug4i74]

Then the church eventually was like nope heresy

[@megorex630]

And now we’re going backwards unfortunately.

[@tpower1912]

@@s4tsug4i74 The Church set up nearly every hospital in the West until the 20th century

[@dman6093]

Wounded on the battlefield, you are carried into the Roman medical tent. As your comrade informs him of the nature of your injuries, the doctor begins to examine you and casually tells your friend "we have a fantastic bone saw for when I get there and my little trusty probe for messing around."

[@kaypz]

Fantastic

[@libbylandscape3560]

Ah yes, the handy-dandy awl for a little poking around. 😬

[@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist]

Bahahahaha. GBless their souls.

[@ssab9063]

"hey doc what's that?" "that's a probe, it's for messing around."

[@lethfuil]

Right? THAT'S the one that got me the most too! xD

[@vaniemars5217]

Yo exactly why I opened the comment section 😅 Oh my gosh…

[@CursedMango1585]

This is what i've been looking for 😂

[@pelago_]

😂😂😂

[@quennan6781]

bless modern medicine 🙂‍↕️

[@Jsmithsurv]

If you went into a surgery room, you'd see that many tool used are the same than the ones used to build a house...hammers, saws, drills...

[@ateistism]

​@@Jsmithsurv The addition of effective anesthesia to that pile of tools makes a significant difference.

[@CalebHansonlets]

"...tools that look exactly like they do today but slightly different.."

[@Lostachilles]

Well, he's not wrong. They're exactly alike in terms of functionality and shape, but they're just a different material. So the tool is exactly the same, yet different ;)

[@rooknado]

@@LostachillesHe initially was referring to the appearance and use case of the tool, not the material of its construction.

[@Lostachilles]

@@rooknado the material is part of the appearance.

[@rooknado]

@@Lostachilles Perhaps we have different understandings of the word “exactly.” It’s apparent to me that he meant the same in function and niche, not appearance, ergonomics, nor construction.

[@censusgary]

In other words, they don’t look exactly the same.

[@steemlenn8797]

The only difference is that the patients at Roman times would feel everything. Brrrr!

[@billybongthornton777]

They had opium

[@benjammin2L8]

@@billybongthornton777 and Gall

[@weylinwebber4180]

For messing around

[@nicknick_nick]

ouch

[@zosazsatara5889]

I'm pretty sure ancient times had a lot of yelling.

[@stephanieyee9784]

That's why rocks 🪨 have never gone out of fashion as tools. 🤕

[@spacemanspiff3052]

Hell. They had the same basic surgical instruments that were used in 19th Century field hospitals!!! The only thing they were missing that an Army doctor in the American Civil War (1861 - 1865) had on hand was general anesthesia like chloroform and/or ether. I think that’s very cool!

[@ohhiitsmike]

It would likely have been nitrous in the 1860s

[@rooknado]

@@ohhiitsmikeWhere do you get that idea? Not nearly as prevalent as ether or chloroform, in fact NiO was pretty experimental at the time; never seeing wide spread use according to historical examinations.

[@georgevitch5566]

NiO is nickel (II) oxide. You probably want N2O, nitrous oxide, an anaesthetic.

[@rooknado]

@@georgevitch5566 Simple mistake. Thanks for the correction.

[@fuckingghey]

​@rooknado definitely a law suit nowadays if that mistake was made 😂

[@CH67guy1]

How about Anastasia? When does she come into the picture? I couldn’t imagine surgery without her.

[@luzelenaserrano1236]

Not trying to be negative Nancy here, your comment is absolutely hilarious to me because of your use of the name Anastasia instead of "anesthesia" LMAO Makes me picture historical people waiting for the arrival of mythical Lady Anastasia hahahahahah 😂

[@trueaussie9230]

​@@luzelenaserrano1236 So, you think Anaesthesia is a name commonly used for females?! Clearly, in your mind 'irony' and 'puns' are just myths.

[@OctavioMagnus]

Of they had some anesthesia, they would be EXAXTLY on the same lvl the 19 century surgeon.

[@Salem_S.]

Actually, many professional surgeons prefer the obsidian( volcanic glass) scalpel over the stainless steel as obsidian can be thinner for more precise incisions.

[@Ivanhoe52]

"Probe for messing around" 😂

[@defaulttech-priest8879]

Folks on the background drinking from horns: 🗿

[@magearamil8626]

Meat knife is still a favourite tool of many surgeons

[@thedarkside7508]

"My trusty probe for messing around" NO THANKS

[@Halka-Aemer]

That’s painful 🤕😟😣

[@ej2civicb736]

So glad we have come so far with med

[@aliteralpothole9205]

Fun fact: Roman medicine was so advanced that they had better survival rates from amputation than American soldiers did in the civil war.

[@zosazsatara5889]

Stop trolling.

[@ethernetmumasmr_3231]

???

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

Got sources on that? I don't doubt it but it needs to be verified.

[@grrjhrjhgfgjdjfi9978]

That doesn’t seem particularly impressive considering the radically more advanced weapons

[@MollymaukT]

That has fuckall to do with the actual surgeons and all to do with the weapons. It’s way easier to cut a leg after it suffered a major spear wound than if it’s been blasted by a minie-ball which shatters the bones

[@konsyjes]

delightful. Very comforting to see the Senate And People got me covered for all amputations.

[@chrisphoenix77]

Exactly the same, but slightly different

[@AnitaKraft-ux9qk]

Much more sophisticated than I imagined, but they were a very advanced culture

[@chad_b]

Imagine getting surgery back then with the lack of sterilization and lack of anesthesia 😱

[@Kidnappingfreezers]

Ah just spit on it

[@weylinwebber4180]

With modern healthcare’s regressions, we aren’t that far off anymore

[@hjusn]

I believe the great Roman/Greek physician Galen had his hospitals setup similar to those we have today. Added bonus is that he used wine for disinfecting (he and previous Greek physicians recognized the problem of infection) which resulted in higher patient survival rates. This would be forgotten for centuries until the creation of groundbreaking germ/bacteria theory in the 19th Century along with the work of Pasteur and Lister.

[@grustniy_bird]

that feeling when roman surgery is tomorrow

[@tannerdenny5430]

What a battle cry- For messin around!

[@thcluky5547]

“Exactly the same, but slightly different” my man…

[@cheshireket3132]

The Romans did not play around. The greatness still holds to this day.

[@KisHeszusz]

We now marvel at Roman medicine in the same way that the Romans marveled at Egypt at that time.

[@censusgary]

If the patient didn’t die of shock during one of these operations (done without anesthesia or antisepsis), he or she was highly likely to die of infections. There were no antibiotics, surgeons did not sterilize their tools, and if they were busy (as on a battlefield) they wouldn’t even wash their hands (why bother, when they’ll just get get dirty again?).

[@WesleyNiman]

That did not describe what surgery was like at all..

[@Silveryback]

I have rarely felt such physical discomfort when watching a video.

[@CMBell1985]

"My trusty probe for messing around.."

[@snowmiaow]

Tell us about pain control

[@witchthief9735]

Ah yes "field surgery". Two words that should be nowhere near each other ever

[@SEBDOESSTUFFOFFICIAL]

That scalpel was a butter knife. But still, it’s interesting to see how the did medicine that long ago

[@ChaosChild-s3x]

Why was my first thought will solace

[@jhsalem5480]

What kind of anesthesia though? Wine laced with opium and datura?

[@TheRoland19111]

I really didnt like that "messing around part"

[@trueaussie9230]

The ancient tools "look EXACTLY the same, just slightly DIFFERENT". So, they look ALMOST the same?! 🤔

[@tamutunas937]

And yes no painkiller

[@gregaberor]

People used opiates back then

[@2000PiecesPuzzle]

What did they use for anesthesia? Effin milk of the poppy?😂

[@TheThirdRice-w2z]

Yikes.

[@DrunkenFollyBomb]

in my medical opinion i think the medic from tf2 sums up roman surgery

[@iceetmarne3571]

Its basically the same now, just that we are naked, sedated and under white lights.

[@jeffd6]

They look exactly the same, just small differences. So, not exactly the same.

[@CharlieAdams-v4q]

Is he not gonna mentions the circular bone saw thing that they used on Titus pulo?

[@TheHappyHousewife89]

All with next to nothing to help the pain 😅

[@anomalyp8584]

a probe....

[@TheBenNZ]

Didn't see any morphine in there 😅🤕😵

[@spookym123]

And did they have anesthetics?

[@belindaweber7999]

Sooo if you managed to survive the trauma and pain, you'd still likely die from infection 😳

[@gregaberor]

Could you not be bothered to look up the term flensing for a thirty second video?

[@chrisfrost8456]

Nice😂😮😅😊

[@archmagosdominusbelisarius8836]

Imagine how advanced the medieval ages could have been if christianity wasnt made up😮 this way it was just a degraded antiquity

[@humblehombre9904]

Just imagine the amount of tetanus people got from those tools.

[@Analouge.motor-photography]

Why does he look a bit like garand thumb

[@10cam01]

I thought he kind of looks like zach hadel

[@lazzarnuts]

Revelation 1:8 [8]“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

[@cheshireket3132]

🙄