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What was the Malaise Era of American Motoring?

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Ruairidh MacVeigh

Ruairidh MacVeigh

3 жыл бұрын

Hello! :D
For this week, I wanted to talk about something very close to my heart, American cars.
I've always had an adoration for American cars, from big, opulent land yachts like the 1971 Cadillac Eldorado and the 1977 Lincoln Continental, to growling muscle cars like the 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1 and Chevrolet Camaro.
However, there were a lot of problems with American cars of the past, so much so that they gave rise to the ever-present stereotype, perpetuated by the likes of Top Gear, that all they encapsulate is bad handling, horrendous fuel economy and poor reliability. It was in this, the Malaise Era, where truly those stereotypes became cemented, and in this video we will look at the causes and effects of this dark period in American motoring, and how Detroit was able to survive the onslaught, but with a much smaller market share.
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@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, not all of those worn out cars from the 50's and 60's immediately went to the junkyard. They were the source of many $50 or $100 cars that me and my buddies would drive as teenagers, and we drove them until the wheels fell off. :-) After that is when they ended up in the junkyard.
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 3 жыл бұрын
@proud 2 B Liberal Chevy what?
@gregcraven984
@gregcraven984 3 жыл бұрын
@proud 2 B Liberal mine was a 64 Bel air chevy i got given to me i had to make it run ! started a successful career as a mechanic
@bokhans
@bokhans 3 жыл бұрын
Or ended up in Sweden for renovation and now they are in better condition than new. Sweden have American car meets with up to 24 000 old Americans cars at the same time. Pretty impressive. www.wired.com/2017/03/axel-oberg-swedish-greasers-power-big-meet/
@CarsandCats
@CarsandCats 3 жыл бұрын
@@bokhans Finland too. I have friends from there that are very much into drag racing.
@lostcat9lives322
@lostcat9lives322 3 жыл бұрын
In my neck of the woods, they were turned into dirt track racers. I can remember 1955-1957 chevys and everything else being destroyed weekly during the early 1970's on a 1/3 mile clay track..
@alain99v6
@alain99v6 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 v6 engines were really rare, inline 6 was the american base engines in many cars however
@1voiceofstl
@1voiceofstl 3 жыл бұрын
slant 6 dodge dart..the best deal of the 70's
@RustOnWheels
@RustOnWheels 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say exactly the same 👍
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
All of the straight 6s were about bullet proof back then with the slant six really quite something. Until everything went to hell, nobody wanted a v6. Buick started producing them around 1976 again because of the cafe' problems but they actually had one in the early sixties. A succession of updates on the design turned it into a very tough engine that continued into the 2000s. Wonderful engine, the last version - 3800 really was - 200 to 260 hp. Used in all GM cars at one time. It was used in the Buick Grand National in the mid 80's, a turbocharged engine and quite fast.
@RustOnWheels
@RustOnWheels 3 жыл бұрын
@@montymatilda I’ve owned (and still own) cars with L8, L6, V8 and /6 and the durability of the /6 (especially its resistance to abuse) is something else. The manifolds are a different story though. :D The stove bolt sixes from the interbellum and a decade after WWII are also very forgiving but have their power limitations. I’ve owned (and still own) cars with their original engines still going strong after 70 odd years. Okay, they don’t have to put up with modern abuse and mileages but it does say something about the sturdiness of these machines. The seventies were a forebode of the limitations of ICE when it comes to performance, durability and mileage. That’s where companies like Toyota stepped in.
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
@@RustOnWheels Gosh, you own some interesting vehicles/engines. As a child, I remember a couple of relatives that had the L8 in a Pontiac and a Buick. I was fascinated by the exhaust note being so different and nice. They were automatics. They were also factory standard. I love the sound of a V8 except when the exhaust is so loud and popping you cannot hear the engine. A buddy and I had 63/64 Impala SS 409s and we used the standard exhaust with Corvair turbo mufflers. Deep throaty sound but no crackle a popping. The 80's and up Buick v6 sounded nice. IIRC, the Honda Civic rolled into dealers about 1975. They were all the rage where I live. You couldn't even test drive one without giving them $500 and signing a contract. I won't do that with any car, so never got to drive one.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 3 жыл бұрын
My family had a 74 LTD with a 400 V8. Despite all its faults it could eat an econobox for lunch in an accident and when gas prices plummeted in the 89's and 90's the fuel economy wasn't a problem anymore. My mom drove it on a 120mi daily commute and we had to fill up the tank every other day. Fortunately gas was only $0.75/gal in the mid 90's so it wasn't a big deal. Eventually put 380,000 miles on it before we gave up and purchased a second hand 97 accord in 1999.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-S-6063 sorry, it was the 400. The 302 is in the 69 Mustang.
@spyone4828
@spyone4828 3 жыл бұрын
Those engines didn't have to be weak and inefficient. I bought a 1975 Dodge station wagon with a 400 V8 (6.6 liter) in 1988. It weighed 3 tons, got 28 mpg on the highway and 22 in the city, and at emissions testing had 0% unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust. I achieved this through the simple measures of frequent maintenance, driving with a light foot (using the optional Fuel Minder system that warned when you were burning fuel inefficiently), and buying premium gas. Sadly, I lent it to a friend and he destroyed the transmission.
@rhynosouris710
@rhynosouris710 2 жыл бұрын
My father also had an LTD. From the day it rolled off the dealer's floor (New!) it was repair after repair. US auto makers cared nothing for quality nor its customers. My father, who was bitterly anti-Japanese from his war experience, only bought Toyotas since.
@gregidour7315
@gregidour7315 3 жыл бұрын
They are back where they started.....except instead of land yachts it's enormous pick ups
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 3 жыл бұрын
Well two of them are. Unless Chrysler's been building pickups I didn't know about (Note: I'm only going off commercials, in which the only ads for "Heavy Duty Pickups" are from either GMC or Ford)
@video99couk
@video99couk 3 жыл бұрын
And Ford are behind the curve again. They've not seen the electric vehicle revolution as a threat and they're too far behind to ever catch up now.
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@russellgxy2905 Fiat-Chrysler build pickups under the "Ram" brand...
@ssbn6175
@ssbn6175 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right, 3.5 ton leather-clad chrome-plated four-door monstrosities, equipped with ubiquitous but entirely unnecessary 4-wheel drive (in most cases) and a bed free of scratched paint. Used to be that trucks were made for work.
@video99couk
@video99couk 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssbn6175 Here in the UK, builders and farmers use trucks, the rest of us have cars.
@alternatenutters2524
@alternatenutters2524 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I emigrated to Canada over 30 years ago. We started collecting these 60's and 70's giants while they were still relatively plentiful. Now, driving a Colony Park station wagon makes us celebrities as people gather around in the parking lots, remembering their childhoods growing up with these giants. We have to smile as they leave in their BMW's and Lexus, wishing they still had their old woody wagon. An excellent documentary. Thank you Sir!
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
We had a Colony Park and I remember it being a most capable hauler.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 3 жыл бұрын
I drive a 1972 LTD Country Squire. The ultimate Brady Bunch machine in original paint of olive green / woodgrain. You are right. People react like it is a Lamborghini or Bugatti...
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 3 жыл бұрын
We had an '83 Colony Park when I was growing up (actually, my parents were forced to get it because of me - before that, my parents and 3 sibs could all fit into any car just fine). When my 2 kids were little, I bought an '85 Country Squire, which I had for only about a year and a half before I was afforded the rare opportunity to upgrade to an '88 Grand Wagoneer. It most certainly is true - you can't beat the classics!
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 3 жыл бұрын
@@LakeNipissing On National Lampoon's Vacation, that color would be called "Metallic Pea" lol
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
The 'malaise' fall in power outputs in the mid-70s was caused first primarily by emissions reduction requirements. The fuel efficiency drive came later & was accomplished with smaller displacements and taller axle ratios, even further diminishing performance.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 жыл бұрын
It was also the switch from SAE Gross horsepower to SAE Net engines. Before 1972, automakers basically lied about engine performance. Forget all that “underrated from the factory” BS. No.. these engines were bolted to a stand, had a prony brake clamped down on them.. and with no air cleaner or exhaust manifold and no accessories not even a water pump they were run until the engine seized and the highest number was what went into the brochure.
@jnstonbely5215
@jnstonbely5215 Жыл бұрын
Yes Boggy well said and true. But I believe it’s still true. Detroit, or what’s left of it is still in the midst of that so called 70’s malaise ! And it’s the fault & failure of the former ‘ big 3’ because they ignored the Japanese model of car making , and doggedly followed with cars like Pintos, Vegas and others , which the American buyers wouldn’t purchase. And now isn’t GM just a shell of itself ? Chrysler , to survive has been shoved into a marriage with French and Japanese makers, and maybe Ford is the most alert of all these days , with innovation of electrics, the new Bronco , and their updated pickups. I’m still stunned by the way GM cancelled the Oldsmobile and Pontiac models. It’s still their shame because they could have revamped with some exciting news models and kept each division albeit on a smaller scale !
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 Жыл бұрын
_"diminishing performance"_ - you had better define that. I reckon that anything that improves the chances of my grandchildren's children's existence I would define as *_increasing performance._*
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel Жыл бұрын
The problem was that rather than develop more efficient engines they just detuned the engine worse and worse, making it eat fuel much faster and make less power but produce less emissions per litre, and pass the emissions tests. This lazy direction is why the emissions regulations ruined the power output.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 Жыл бұрын
@@justanotheryoutubechannel It was preferable (believe me) to adding *_tetra-ethyl lead_* to the fuel to improve its compression efficiency. Lead is poisonous to human beings - though no longer as dangerous as the use of petrol (gasoline) itself.
@carlosantillon365
@carlosantillon365 3 жыл бұрын
The video mention the EPA existed in 1963, when in fact it was created by the government of Richard Nixon, it was founded December 2, 1970.
@Jetjay
@Jetjay 3 жыл бұрын
The planned obsolescence was not that the cars would only last a few years but rather to offer new designs and new technology frequently so that the previous models would seem dated and consumers would desire more modern designs and technology.
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Glad someone else caught that. The cars were still well made very well (unless you lived in a rust belt state and then it really isn't the car companies fault), just lots of model updates.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
The US government did not lend Chrysler money. It did however, guarantee loans made by banks to Chrysler. Chrysler paid all the money back by itself
@MrFlyingguy
@MrFlyingguy 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for putting us straight - pertinent fact.
@MrFlyingguy
@MrFlyingguy 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for putting us straight - pertinent fact.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 3 жыл бұрын
It also handed over the M1 Abrams tank program to Chrysler, worth billions, even though the GM prototype of the XM1 performed better in most aspects.
@bokhans
@bokhans 3 жыл бұрын
Chrysler’s brand name sucks so bad in Europe they rebrand the few cars that are sold there with other names like Lancia and Fiat. Lancia Voyager former Chrysler Voyager. The funny thing is Lancia and Fiat are just slightly better than the Chrysler brand, none of these names are associated with quality.
@pakopepefdez185
@pakopepefdez185 3 жыл бұрын
The government prints the money, and instead lending them the money, let the banks make business with the government guarantee. Capitalists always win and use the capitalist state for that.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
8:12 WAIT A MINUTE! The EPA didn't come into existence until 1970, so no Clean Air Act by them in "1963"
@imonymous
@imonymous 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I was puzzled by that too.
@spottydog4477
@spottydog4477 3 жыл бұрын
Practically all six cylinder engines were inline -V6 is incorrect. 1
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
GM had V-6 engines in many of their cars and light trucks or this era. I owned a couple.
@e020443
@e020443 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomebear Yes, but not in the '50s and '60s, as the video indicated. The V6s came much later
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@e020443 Buick came out with the 3.8 V6, but sold it to AMC where it was used in Ramblers until GM bought it back in 1975.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 The Buick V6 was sold to Kaiser which used it in Jeeps. After AMC bought Jeep in 1969, the Buick V6 was retired in favor of AMC inline 6s. As you say, AMC sold the tooling back to GM which put it back into production quickly, having never demolished or repurposed its factory site where it had been produced. AMC never used a V6 in any of its passenger cars. AMC did use a later GM V6 in the 1984 XJ compact Jeep, but soon substituted its own inline 6.
@johnmoruzzi7236
@johnmoruzzi7236 3 жыл бұрын
Buick V6 was a simple cut-down 90 degree V8, not good for balance. The Italians and Ford developed the V6 properly later on but they stayed niche until the mid/late 80s with FWD adoption.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
Chrysler did not buy Jeep from AMC. Chrysler purchased AMC and promptly plan to close everything down that was not Jeep. There was a short-lived eagle brand.
@SSGTA440
@SSGTA440 3 жыл бұрын
THAT is correct....Chrysler bought out AMC and closed the Kenosha plant and kept the Jeep Toledo plant, as they knew that Jeep was going to be a good (or as we see today) a fabulous investment.. When John Ricardo ran Chrysler in the mid seventies, he adamantly stated that "Americans will never buy a small car".....boy was he ever WRONG!! That along with a decline in quality control, almost killed the marque....
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSGTA440 Chrysler kept open until 2004, AMC's Kenosha engine plant to make derivatives of AMC's 1964 straight 6 for the Jeeps. Kenosha also built a Chrysler design V6.
@SSGTA440
@SSGTA440 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggy7665 OK, thanks for that.
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 3 жыл бұрын
The Eagle Talon was a "sporty" rebadged Mitsubishi Eclipse.
@ab348
@ab348 3 жыл бұрын
Just one of many misstatements and outright errors in the commentary.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Thanks!
@bokhans
@bokhans 3 жыл бұрын
Just like your own, subscribe to both of you! 👍👏🏻
@taketimeout2share
@taketimeout2share 3 жыл бұрын
You are joking? You know about and stick to cars, this guy sticks to anything.
@hotwheelinroblox7348
@hotwheelinroblox7348 3 жыл бұрын
@@taketimeout2share so?
@kurtiskaskowski5386
@kurtiskaskowski5386 2 жыл бұрын
Video was shit
@markrowland1366
@markrowland1366 2 жыл бұрын
In 1975, Japanese car maker Daihatsu, was selling a four door, sub compact, tested repeatedly giving 68 miles per US gallon. Seventy five UK gallon. So amazed were testing organisations, the tests were redone, refined and finally hidden from the driving public.
@75OldsNinetyEight
@75OldsNinetyEight 3 жыл бұрын
There is no malaise in my 1975 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight with a 455. There is a little rust, and a 28 gallon fuel tank...
@75OldsNinetyEight
@75OldsNinetyEight 3 жыл бұрын
455 cubic inches is about 7.5 liters
@04dram04
@04dram04 3 жыл бұрын
193 HP out of a 455 unimpressive. But i bet it cruises nice.
@kw9849
@kw9849 3 жыл бұрын
@@75OldsNinetyEight The 455 went from 360-375HP in the 60's to 190-205HP by 1975. If that's not a hallmark of Malaise-era cars, I don't know what is.
@rmick66
@rmick66 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC, around 1971-72 they began rating HP at the rear wheels instead of the crankshaft, which caused a significant drop in numerical HP. But I can tell you that the engines in the 400 - 500 cube range even in the later 1970s could still move out those land yachts pretty well.
@hillbilly4895
@hillbilly4895 3 жыл бұрын
I had the 74 Delta 88 Royale convertible. 455/4BBl, Red, white interior and top...the cops should've pulled us over every Saturday night but for some reason never did. They'd just pull along side, nod and smile. We'd invite them to come along but they we're on duty. Funny thing is, I don't even remember selling it.
@malcolmnicholls2893
@malcolmnicholls2893 3 жыл бұрын
We now have tech driven obsolescence. Basic car perfect, too expensive to fix !
@ssbn6175
@ssbn6175 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. Desinged-in failure of major components around an engine that should reliably last 300k. The folks getting burned are not those with the wherewithal to purchase a new vehicle. Pisses me off. I will never own another big-3 auto again.
@chaosdemonwolf1
@chaosdemonwolf1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssbn6175 So what are ya drivin' now?
@ssbn6175
@ssbn6175 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaosdemonwolf1 '14 Mazda 3, 2.0 6M. Only new car I've ever had.
@chaosdemonwolf1
@chaosdemonwolf1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssbn6175 Well, everyone deserves at least one new car, lol.
@rdhudon7469
@rdhudon7469 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssbn6175 I've owned many of the big three and decided I was tired of throwing money away and the inconvenience of repairs . I have owned three Toyota's now . A Tercel , Corolla and presently I have a Tacoma and all have been worry free . You pay more up front but save in the long haul .
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 3 жыл бұрын
That's a gorgeous Lincoln in the thumbnail, though.
@cliff8669
@cliff8669 3 жыл бұрын
Cars of the fifties and sixties were works of art. I had a 1977 and a 1978 T-Bird land yacht. Full tank and I could cruise for around 500 miles before fill up.
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
You should have emphasized the horrendous build quality that was a worldwide epidemic in the 1970's and 1980's...
@chaosdemonwolf1
@chaosdemonwolf1 3 жыл бұрын
It was.
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
True! To use the word quality infers that there may have been some to begin with. Many of the late 60's and early seventies left much to be desired in fit and finish. GM's low end models were sloppy. The cheap, molded plastics discolored and desintegrated smelling of ripe arm pit as they did. So, to say that they stunk would be an accurate statement.
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A friend and I were amused thinking we could see the cloth interior of a Honda disintegrate before our very eyes. So worldwide works.
@sheevone4359
@sheevone4359 3 жыл бұрын
He has a video about British Leyland and the terrible build quality there
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheevone4359 I remember a high school classmate putting his fist through the door panel of his brand new 1974 Camaro...
@bilburns1313
@bilburns1313 3 жыл бұрын
The exploding Ford Pinto's were only the "Runabout" hatchback model, and it wasn't technically a design flaw - it was a last minute before production bean-counter cost-saving scheme. The subsequent recall saw Ford installing a part that cost less than 1 dollar (1970's prices) per car - a part that the designers/engineers had originally specified to be installed on the cars.
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
Ford did not learn from the Pintos. In the 90's Ford had the same problem with exploding Crown Victorias and Lincoln Town Cars when hit from the rear. Again. a shield had to be installed to correct the issue.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomebear They also knew the Bronco II was inherently prone to roll overs, but fudged the dimensions when reporting it to the government.
@rodneylowe9526
@rodneylowe9526 3 жыл бұрын
The clasdic case we learnt in law about product liability, just as its implications were coming across from the US into Europe. Sickening decision making by Ford, and the best reason for prohibitive damages.
@brettkirkpatrick464
@brettkirkpatrick464 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that exploding rear ended Pinto video staged for demonstration purposes at 14:40?
@rodneylowe9526
@rodneylowe9526 3 жыл бұрын
@@brettkirkpatrick464 possibly, but not the accident that killed a chap and triggered the lawsuit!
@Jetjay
@Jetjay 3 жыл бұрын
Too many errors in this video to keep track of!
@CamaroAmx
@CamaroAmx 3 жыл бұрын
Quite correct.
@davis7099
@davis7099 3 жыл бұрын
the wider picture it presents of the trajectory of the car industry in relation to the geopolitics of the time is well represented, individual factual errors aside
@woodyofp8574
@woodyofp8574 3 жыл бұрын
Around two minutes in, you state that they cars were powered by V6 and V8 engines, this is incorrect. Practically all six cylinder engines at this point were inline.
@bilburns1313
@bilburns1313 3 жыл бұрын
All the images of 50's cars while he said that... I think they might have had a V6 or 2 by the late '60's - but their heyday started in the '70's.
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
In 1959, the GMC V6 engine was introduced used in pickup trucks and carryalls. These were torquie engine, the Buick V6 engine was introduced in 1962.
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomebear Correct.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 жыл бұрын
Ford has a V8 since 1932 I believe. I think only Cadillac had a V8 in GM until the 1955 small block was made.
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 I think that Olds had a V8 in '49.
@jamespfitz
@jamespfitz 3 жыл бұрын
This is filled with inaccuracies.
@JerkVegas86
@JerkVegas86 3 жыл бұрын
Name 3?
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook 3 жыл бұрын
@@JerkVegas86 It would be harder to find 3 accurate thing.
@Browningate
@Browningate 3 жыл бұрын
"History is written by the winners."
@isallah1kafir196
@isallah1kafir196 3 жыл бұрын
@@JerkVegas86 I could name one, bat one would take a lot of time to explain. as short as possible. The hatred of the Islamic world against the USA did not start with the creation of Israel, or the support of the USA for Israel. the Barbary pirate states of the Islamic world is a topic I'd advise you to look up. As far as the Jew-Hatred in the Islamic world, this goes back to the founding years of Islam, to the time when Islam came the Jewish-Pagan settlement of Yathrib, today knows as Medina.
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some facts are plain wrong, but the overall narrative is still true.
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot all about Doug Henning, the magician in the mini van commercial.
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky you!
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an ILLOooooooooo-Zhun!!
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
The fuel consumption was better than my 2018 Subaru! That's a fact! The Lincolns easily achieved 24 to 27 miles per gallon on the highway, I know that because I owned several new Lincolns of this era. They were luxurious, comfortable, stable, and reliable. The only negative thing about it that I can remember is the padding on the glove compartment lid would curl over time. We lived on the sea coast so rust proofing was a must with all cars of this era.
@EddieAtTheMorgue
@EddieAtTheMorgue 3 жыл бұрын
You must’ve had a 6 cylinder or turbo model to get worse than 27 MPG highway. Subaru has always had lower than average MPG due to the design of their engines/drivetrain, though the 2011 overhaul and introduction of the CVT resolved it for the most part. My 2019 Outback easily does 35-40 MPG highway and 27 overall...
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
I had always heard that to own a Subaru you had to have a short haircut, wear flannel and jeans, have a wallet with a chain attached to a belt loop, and wear black motorcycle boots. Correct?
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage 3 жыл бұрын
The Pinto "Exploding" when hit from behind wasn't "Location of the fuel tank", but actually from Ford trying to save 11 cents per car by not including the rubber gasket that isolated the fuel tank from the side of the car body. When the car was rear-ended, the tank moved position, and sheared off the fuel spout, thus causing sparks to ignite the gas fumes in the filler tube.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
And a lot of people don’t know that Jeep had a prob with exploding gas tanks on some jeeps in the ‘80s and early ‘90s, when equipped with a towing receiver .
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but a couple of things. The EPA did not bring out the Clean Air Act. The clean air act was a law passed by Congress which created the EPA. Don't forget, an American gallon is about 80% the size of an English gallon.
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about imperial gallons, that sucks
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
@ThePatUltra yes. It's a mess. Add to that a metric ton, 1000 kg, is 2204 pounds more or less
@ECML119
@ECML119 2 жыл бұрын
1 Imperial gallon is equal to 1.2 US gallons.
@67tomcat
@67tomcat 3 жыл бұрын
Gigantic is still alive and well in the US in the form of midsize and large SUV's and full sized pickups.
@dasbof
@dasbof 3 жыл бұрын
Alive and well for the well to do. A friend just bought a nice 2020 Tahoe. $74k. Yikes. Try buying anything with a V-8 now brand new. Rare as hens teeth.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
This past year has placed a dampener on car and truck sails
@erikajennings9055
@erikajennings9055 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, the new full size pick-up trucks are some of the biggest pick-up trucks ever made. They are gigantic. Not only that they are very expensive, even a 3 year old Ford F150 is selling at $30k.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 3 жыл бұрын
Light-truck chassis should never have been exempted from CAFE regulations. >:-(
@67tomcat
@67tomcat 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmaginnis1965 Exactly!
@literallyshaking8019
@literallyshaking8019 3 жыл бұрын
That 61’ Continental convertible is a thing of beauty.
@maconp1119
@maconp1119 3 жыл бұрын
I have that 72 LTD. I bought it new. I would buy it twice again over those crappy Japanese cars. They ran fairly well and were reliable, but if you got hit by a 70s American car, your head would be up your ass, because that WAS the “crumple zone”.
@rdhudon7469
@rdhudon7469 3 жыл бұрын
The good old days when the windshield was your airbag . Lol
@socalltd
@socalltd 3 жыл бұрын
There were NO Minivans or Crossovers in 1975. SUV's were considered trucks and did not sell as were a fraction of a full sized car at the time allowing the exemptions to the CAFE standards. Also many 5 litre engines in domestic cars got 15 to over 20 miles to the gallon. Inline 6 engines were getting well over 20.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 3 жыл бұрын
No minivans in 1975? Not true - you forgot the Volkswagen Transporter.
@socalltd
@socalltd 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmaginnis1965 I heard them being called Vans , Bus or Transporter. . I am saying the term Mini was used or around then
@trainluvr
@trainluvr 3 жыл бұрын
The reliability and durability of American made cars in the 1970s and 80s was atrocious. And they never implemented safety improvements unless forced by the federal government to do so.
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. The American cars of the 1970s and 80s started using a lot more plastic in the interior than the cars of the 1960s. The plastic would rattle a bit before they figured out how to screw it all together properly. Reliability wise 70s and 80s cars are very decent cars, just low on power.
@2.7petabytes
@2.7petabytes 3 жыл бұрын
The EPA was started in 1970 under the Nixon administration...
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
The Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act were signed into law the same year.
@2.7petabytes
@2.7petabytes 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmiessner6502 correct😁
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@2.7petabytes Emissions controls on cars began appearing earlier, as noted in the film. I recall that 1963 cars had Positive Crankcase Ventilation, a simple technology that reduced a fair percentage of pollution. This was driven by government regulations.
@2.7petabytes
@2.7petabytes 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggy7665 you are correct as well. Except he said that the EPA put rules into affect in 1963, 7 years before the EPA was even an agency.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
And no clean air act before that fact! Thank you for correcting this video's error
@dbh6668
@dbh6668 Жыл бұрын
I think your assessment is spot on. The American car industry was caught flat footed; something so shocking and so unheard of that I think it took them some time to even realize it had happened. They were overwhelmed by poor economic conditions, unforeseen competition, government regulation, and unprecedented changes in consumer tastes. As a result, for the first time in generations, the American car industry was not leading, but rather reacting to an unfamiliar environment that they were no longer in control of. And as a result of that, American cars went through a period of being the bare minimum they needed to be and little more. The sort of cars you make when all your effort is spent putting out fires all day. When it started, who can say with certainty, but I think it first became unavoidably visible around 1974 when cars were suddenly being forced to address cultural shifts they had not been designed for. I think it then ran all the way until a bit of leadership, innovation, and competitiveness began to peak through around the introduction of the Ford Taurus, the Pontiac 6000 STE, the 4th gen Corvette, the Dodge Caravan, the turbo Thunderbird…like 84’-85’. Like you said. That’s not to say there weren’t notable attempts during this malaise time period - I think the Cosworth Vega was a little misguided but certainly interesting. The 78’-80’ Pontiac Grand Am was possibly the first successful attempt by America to make something akin to a Euro-style sports sedan. Also, theres the Mustang II; an important car which probably could have been executed better. But it was an American car that was actually paying attention to what was going on and was trying the hardest to adapt to it. I give the little II credit for effort.
@lucianovalentino832
@lucianovalentino832 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 69 Cadillac eldorado and 71 Lincoln continental mark iii
@maverickloggins5470
@maverickloggins5470 3 жыл бұрын
Funny timing I’ve just bought an LTD Crown Victoria lol. Being a 1989 model, it does have fuel injection, but it’s just a facelift of the model from 1980, downsized compared to those early 70s LTD’s in the video, but still very big, with a 302 V8 making only 150hp. At least the torque rating is pretty good. Fuel economy not so much lol. Nothing prepares you for the amount of room you feel around you in a car of that size with a bench seat, it’s really so comfortable around a town or city.
@montymatilda
@montymatilda 3 жыл бұрын
89 Crown Vic's are quite attractive, to me, even though we know it is an old platform. They really didn't change it when the new ones came out in 92. Nor did Chevy. I have an 89 Lincoln Town Car, same engine set-up and I am quite happy to get a consistent 21 mpg. I am with you on how comfortable they are. I have had mine since 94.
@Akasnacker
@Akasnacker 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American and lived through part of the American car culture history that you were talking about. I'm 55 years old and it is interesting to sit back and listen to you and take the opinion of someone not from America, I'm not offended though and much of what you say was truthful and it does make sense of why OPEC was created and has made the American peoples economy suffer! Its unfortunately true how much are American government"CIA" etc. does work against the common American citizen In their unbridled lobbyist pursuit of backing huge corporations! I believe we the people lost control of our government between the 50s and the early 60s if not even before, pretty sad just look at our recent election????
@Jedi391
@Jedi391 3 жыл бұрын
Every America hater out there is just reveling in your comment.
@Akasnacker
@Akasnacker 3 жыл бұрын
No I'm not disrespecting America I'm just disrespecting this overgrown government we have built by corporate lobbyists and if people feel that way that's their problem! I love my country and the people in it ! The government need's some serious overhauling for a long time now and improving is all I'm pointing a finger to! But then it goes back to we the People right to make the improvements! Jedi I wouldn't worry about it man people are going to hate anyway there's haters out there you know our government's not perfect! Peace to all my friends and Merry Christmas 🎄⛄🎄!
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
America, love it or improve it
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
It is now the BiDUHn malaise era. But it will only last a total of 4 yrs
@BanjoLuke1
@BanjoLuke1 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh... So succinct. These distilled histories are rarely free of detail errors, but this one makes few. Chapeau to the maker of this piece. You have caught the essence of the social realities, the political changes and the engineering trends. Good video.
@briquetaverne
@briquetaverne 3 жыл бұрын
There's so much nostalgia for the styling of the golden era cars, they're being resurrected from Junkyards, barns and vacant land in order to restore them to their former appearance on the exterior with all the state of the art latest drive trains, suspension and braking, electronics and cosmetic interiors. Completed, these restomods can cost more than the newest high price range assembly line products, however, when maintained, they always appreciate in value while their assembly line competitors depreciate considerably then after time head for the Junk Yards, Barns and vacant land.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. In my opinion, restomods are for people who don't appreciate vintage cars as they are enough. My perspective is that if you want to go vintage, either go all the way or don't even bother. Of course, this is just my own opinion. People can do whatever they want to their cars as long as they own them.
@bernardjharmsen304
@bernardjharmsen304 3 жыл бұрын
Unpowered drum brakes, heavy steering and poor handling is standard spec for 1970s cars
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
@benard What a stupid comment. Obviously you have never owned or driven a 70’s car
@powellmountainmike8853
@powellmountainmike8853 3 жыл бұрын
BIG MISTAKE, which shows you aren't as much of a car expert as you'd like people to believe. The American cars of the 1950s, '60s, and early '70s used STRAIGHT six cylinder engines, NOT V 6s. The V6 did not begin to be used in U.S. cars until the change from rear wheel to front wheel drive, because they needed a shorter engine in order to fit in the WIDTH under the hood, since such engines mount sideways and make the engineering simpler for front wheel drive.
@Strike_Raid
@Strike_Raid 3 жыл бұрын
Mid 70's to mid 80's, the age of the 'spaghetti motor'. You couldn't eve see the engine because of the insane amount rubber hoses running everywhere connecting up all the tons of junk needed to meet the emissions standards.
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 3 жыл бұрын
My friend's Dad simply disconnected these hoses and corked them with golf tees, on the 1977 Toyota Land Cruiser that Dave inherited. 1990s California reg'ns requiring all factory smog crap to be there meant my friend had to give up his original well-running go anywhere truck.
@1voiceofstl
@1voiceofstl 3 жыл бұрын
your right...it was the biggest problem
@hutchcraftcp
@hutchcraftcp 3 жыл бұрын
AMC's connection to Renault was it's ultimate downfall. As AMC did not have the money to develop a front wheel drive platform, it turned to Renault. Renault quality was far inferior to AMC'S previous models. While the R9 was assembled by amc, the engine and transmission were imported from France. Failure rates were huge.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
AMC's failure was spending all it's money developing the Pacer, which looks weird and was underpowered due to the loss of the Wankel engine they were to have purchased from GM, due to emissions and the fuel crises causing GM to shutter the project. The Chevy Monza was also to have used that engine.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 And the 1974 Matador Coupe was a failure on its own, but doubly so as a giant land yacht appearing just when the first fuel crisis broke. Also a wasted investment for body tooling, though the underpinnings were just standard Matador.
@ab348
@ab348 3 жыл бұрын
How can that be? According to the narrator cars from outside the USA were all superior, and paragons of quality and efficiency! Of course he fails to note AMC's outdated engineering and styling, and lack of economies of scale. They were forced to find a partner to bail them out because of that.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@ab348 Efficiency yes, quality, no. Chrysler also had to turn to its French division, Talbot, for its first FWD models. The Horizon was certainly what the company needed to limp along until the K platform was developed, but they aren't cars anyone remembers fondly (except the Shelby version).
@ab348
@ab348 3 жыл бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 And the Talbot engines were so great that Chrysler was forced to buy VW engines to put in the Horizon for the first few years.
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 3 жыл бұрын
American cars weren't done in 3-5 years. Most had a service life of around 15. The second hand market thrived. Yes, the upper-middle class bought new car every 3-5 years. Also, once again, great that you give credit where it's due, but you don't actually use that word "credit." "Footage," "Video," or "Audio."
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, I remember driving 1960s and ‘70s cars and they were pretty worn out by 50 thousand miles. But the British imports of that era were even worse! Something this British documentary forgets to mention. And nearly all those Brit car makers are gone, while the American big three are doing well.
@spyone4828
@spyone4828 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. My oldest brother's first car, bought in 1977, was built in 1948. His second was built in 1964. My first car was built they year I was born. In my whole life my father only bought two cars that were less than ten years old. And my grandfather, who distinctly favored Chrysler products, said the engines weren't really broken in until they reached 150,000 miles. These were replaced with front wheel drive models in the 1980s that came with a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty that was the best in the business, but those engines were famous for developing terminal oil pressure problems at around 60,000 miles. Which is why my uncle drove his 1975 Plymouth Scamp well into the 1990s.
@spyone4828
@spyone4828 3 жыл бұрын
The most worn-out car I have ever owned was also the one with the fewest miles on it: It was a 1973 Toyota Corolla that I bought in 1996 with 73,000 original miles. It had a 2-speed automatic and the previous owner warned me "the last time that transmission was rebuilt they said it was the last time that transmission COULD BE rebuilt."
@rustyjeep2469
@rustyjeep2469 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that was the most inaccurate thing in the whole video. If you look at people such as myself that are still driving 30-60 year old American cars in 2021, it's proof they can actually run almost indefinitely with basic maintenance. It's absolute nonsense that these vehicles only had three to five years of service life.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
@rustyjeep That’s what I’ve always said, if all these American cars were junk then why are there so many left being driven on the road today? But what you don’t see is many tieyotas and a lot of imported junk on the road of the same era. People scrapped them after awhile apparently, not worth keeping them around when they broke down. Probably made into a bird bath or a hammer, something useful
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 3 жыл бұрын
The fuel bill from that 8.2 litre engine must have been horrendous, even before the oil crisis.
@foowashere
@foowashere 3 жыл бұрын
Ensign Cthulhu well, the fuel volume for sure. Not so sure about the cost.
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
We owned three and they would average between 24 and 27 on the highway. I got 28 miles per gallon once, driving the speed limit,
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 3 жыл бұрын
@@foowashere You just reminded me of a thing Mad Magazine did around that time, a riff on the old Solomon Grundy nursery rhyme, detailing him filling his tank more than once a day. It described the car he was driving, and it might even have been this monster.
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but if you could afford a Caddy, you didn't worry about how much fuel you were using.
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook 3 жыл бұрын
I have a triple black 1990 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance, will replace the tiny 5.7 Chevy engine with a Cadillac 500. Keep your Cadillac all Cadillac.
@randallfabian6640
@randallfabian6640 3 жыл бұрын
06:02 Had a family saloon once. Dad drank all the profits!
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 2 жыл бұрын
You are becoming my first go-to when I crack open YT. We both like a lot of the same stuff and your work is excellent. Thank you for your hard work.
@apricotfifty993
@apricotfifty993 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, this video presents an exceptionally clear historic perspective of the US car market. Many thanks!
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
With lots of distortions due to his lack of understanding and seeking exceptions as typical. Look at his most popular videos for his real area of interest.
@gioneraeciofi111
@gioneraeciofi111 3 жыл бұрын
You have neglected to mention the most venerable economy models of all US makers; the Dodge Dart/Plymouth Valiant 1963-1974
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
@@gioneraeciofi111 I did in a later comment saying - Lots of distortions here. Does not understand the late 50s demand for smaller cars with Rambler and Studebaker doing so well. Led soon after to the Ford Falcon, Chrysler Valiant and chev Corvair. All six cylinder lighter cars. Then soon after the chev nova. Except Corvair all were inline sixes. Falcon sold near as many as the Mustang in its early years and the Mustang was based on it. Quotes the largest engine option as being standard, but even full size were mostly in line sixes until the late sixties. VW Beetle impact ignored. Although the Valiant started in 1960 I think. Darts were much larger until 1963. Saw elsewhere how the Falcon was heading to 3 million sales by 1966, so not trivial numbers, unlike the 500 cui Eldorado.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
@@gioneraeciofi111 Yes
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
And very critical of The US, and American culture of way back then
@AnonymousMultimedia
@AnonymousMultimedia 3 жыл бұрын
You completely overlooked how Ford, Chrysler (Simca and Routes Group) and GM’s European operations (Opel and Vauxhall) were basically scaling down there American counterparts cars some of these include the Ford Anglia and Consul (later the Mk1 Cortina), The Opel Kadett and various Vauxhalls before the Cavalier came out in 1975. These cars had small efficient engines normally below 2.0l and as a result the European cars lived on as their old selves. The only problem was that they never exported them back to the US except for the Opel Escona (known as the 1300 there) for a brief time.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the import Plymouth cricket that was being sold in the early seventies at the Chrysler, Plymouth,dodge dealership. A very cheaply made car to sell to the masses with decent gas mpg. I never seen one on the road, and from what I did hear about them was that like all the other imports of that time it was just trash. After two yrs the dealership quit trying to sell them
@ivokiller2000intel
@ivokiller2000intel 3 жыл бұрын
the excess of the land yatchs is back in the US, in the form of full-size SUV and pick-ups. Will history repeat itself?
@gwyneddboom2579
@gwyneddboom2579 3 жыл бұрын
Probably, let’s get ourselves a new 2cv
@ivokiller2000intel
@ivokiller2000intel 3 жыл бұрын
@@gwyneddboom2579 I'm more of a Fiat 600 person
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 3 жыл бұрын
A statement that will get you comments: American cars did not have V6 engines. The standard 6 cylinder models were inline-6s, which is a very different architecture. V6s did not arrive until manufacturers responded to the oil-crisis of the 70s by lopping 2 cylinders off of their V8s.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Buick did that in 1962, but it wasn't a big seller for them, so they sold it to AMC.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 The Buick V6 was sold to Kaiser which used it in Jeeps. After AMC bought Jeep, AMC substituted their own inline 6s. By 1975, GM bought the V6 tooling back from AMC & put it back into production. As it was a 90-degree V6, it ran like a V8 with two cylinders missing. (I rode in one of those & it was disconcerting-felt like something was wrong.) It wasn't until GM re-engineered it a few years later with offset crank pins that it became a smooth running engine.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggy7665 I DROVE one of those for almost 15 years. 1976 Sunbird. It was the last year of the Oddfire.
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 2 жыл бұрын
Still love station wagons to this day. Dating in a brand new '66 Merc wagon was always a gas and I managed to shoehorn 12 girls into it one day after high school, giving them all a ride home. Yes, really. On the way I stopped at a red light and a police cruiser stopped for the light right next to me and one of the girls yelled _"Hey girls, what grows on peaches?"_ and all 12 of them yelled *_"FUZZ!"_* at the top of their lungs. I looked at the officer and he just shook his head with a grin and drove away. I was singing lead for a local band at the time which didn't hurt my currency at school. I loved the '60s. SADARAR as real. Memories - I turn 76 in two months and now I just ride an 1100cc Yammie cruiser, a '99 Virago. My riding partner and best friend is my daughter and she rides an ' '88 1100cc Honda. Did the math on supporting a car year round and what did I really need it for vs. the bike in the summer and cabs to work in the winter and came up $3,000 to the good if I got rid of the car, which I immediately did 14 years ago. You can ride in a helluva lot of taxis for three large. Just for the record the Merc had a 240 cube straight six with a three in the tree that would out pull any stock 283 I met. Sorry about the spontaneous memoir, Rory but RHIP as we both know. Thank you and Cheers from E. Ontario, CDA
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ 3 жыл бұрын
The big V6 and V8 Engines in American cars of the 1960's where used in new powerboats until just a few years ago.
@sjoormen1
@sjoormen1 3 жыл бұрын
Well America was always better at marketing, than producing cars. Those cars were like beautiful women, beautiful to look at, but impossible to live with.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 3 жыл бұрын
That's because underneath they were basically lard-arses!
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
We lived 50 miles from anywhere and these were what we drove.
@rodneylowe9526
@rodneylowe9526 3 жыл бұрын
You have a strange taste in women! To the British eye these cars were loud, gaudy brash and unsophisticated. The fact that as the world motor industries opened up, and the US style was dropped, shows perhaps the style was "unique" to the US in its beauty.
@sjoormen1
@sjoormen1 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodneylowe9526 Big and loud:-) Don't forget what junk was made in rest of the world at the time. British cars ... they were even worse.
@rodneylowe9526
@rodneylowe9526 3 жыл бұрын
@@sjoormen1 they wrre dreadful. But genuinely innovative. Badly underfunded, poorly managed and built by militant workforces who didnt care. But they fit on the road and didnt suffer from petrol stayion constipation. (Ie they couldnt pass one). Some were nice looking too, we made splendid sports cars, graceful large saloons, and designs of our small cars were cute and often ftom the pen of Italian design houses. But yes, there were a few pigs.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a brilliant and succinct analysis, speaking as a retired British industrial designer. What was the name of the aliens that destroyed Earth for a galactic bypass? ("Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy") - Vogons, weren't they? Whatever . . . SUV's, resistance to Climate Change, resistance to renewable energy transport . . . these guys are still evolving. Thanks, anyway, for resolving some of my stresses.
@rrad8106
@rrad8106 3 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating video essay! Good information. Planned obsolescence is still a thing, which is why I drive Nissan's today. We had a new 1998 Ford Expedition; gorgeous vehicle inside, but so mechanically over engineered that at around 54,000 miles, parts began to fail... a lot. Our last new Ford was a 2002 Ford Ranger that began to exhibit the same problems after 30,000 miles. We also bought a new Saturn Vue that had parts literally falling off of it starting at around 12,000 miles. It totally died when it hit 76k. We tried a Honda for a few years; a CR-Z, bought new. Great gas mileage (Hybrid), and ride, but the overall fit and finish were horrendous! The paint began to crackle after a year, the interior looked equally as ragged. So not all imports are worthy. Not a week goes by that Ford, GM or FCA announce some massive recall or another. And BIG recalls, too. Where is the quality? I picked up a 2004 Nissan Frontier with 112k miles on it to be my "dump hauler". Other than routine maintenance and general road wear repairs, the truck lasted to 200k miles! Drove it on several cross country trips; great gas mileage. We've been Nissan fans ever since. Traded that Saturn in on a 2015 Nissan Rogue. Got almost 90k miles on the Rogue now and other than routine maintenance and road wear repairs, the car has been superb. Finally drove that old Frontier into the ground last year, upgraded it to a 2019 model. Just a wonderful vehicle. I know we're done with American cars.
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you burn the flag on the front lawn too.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you princess
@hiker0100
@hiker0100 9 ай бұрын
You buy Nissans to avoid planned obsolence... Bruhhhhh That's like trying to quit heroin by smoking crack
@deepchillzone
@deepchillzone 3 жыл бұрын
Best short documentary about the economic transition of the American car industry.
@daloin87061
@daloin87061 3 жыл бұрын
I don't make cars like they use too.
@adambarczi6305
@adambarczi6305 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent indeed. I have a 1979 Lincoln Mark V and always wondered why these cars had to disappear. Now it is put in historical perspective..
@paulbroderick8438
@paulbroderick8438 3 жыл бұрын
Just plastic boxes full of sensors now!
@sheevone4359
@sheevone4359 3 жыл бұрын
You can drive something you like and possibly die or you can drive something boring and survive.
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
But but much safer
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
... modern cars are much safer, that is
@itzFYEB
@itzFYEB 3 жыл бұрын
but much faster, safer, and with much better technology (not only limited to electronic progress)
@rdhudon7469
@rdhudon7469 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheevone4359 Or you can learn how to drive properly and survive like I have for more than 40 years of driving . That is with Canadian winters .
@markyoung01maccom
@markyoung01maccom 3 жыл бұрын
Whilst an interesting film it’s filled with historical and technical inaccuracies. As an example, the EPA wasn’t formed until 1970 not as the video mentions 1963.
@video99couk
@video99couk 3 жыл бұрын
15:50 I still love to drive my 1972 Hillman Avenger. Plymouth Cricket in USA.
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
One of my high school teachers had a Plymouth Cricket. He traded it in lss than a year for a less-unreliable full-size Chrysler.
@video99couk
@video99couk 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpinckney4979 My Hillman Avenger is boringly reliable. It did break down once about 8 years ago, but it was a simple electrical repair. The Plymouth Cricket was maybe not quite what USA customers wanted. The handling is superb, you can chuck it around corners until the tyres squeal like a little sports car. But in the 1970s, USA customers were still happy with sloppy suspension cars which handled like a boat.
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@video99couk My electronics teacher didn't have his Cricket on the road long enough to comment on the handling. It was almost always in the shop! It wasn't just big cars that had lousy suspension back then. My 1974 Ford Pinto station wagon was also pretty bad. Big American cars didn't have to handle bad or get bad gas mileage. As a retired MP, my father routinely ordered the "police package" at the GM or Ford District Office. They "looked" normal. Until you saw the dual exhausts, stabilizer bars, heavy-duty cooling and electrical, etc. His last one, a 1973 Galaxie 500 with a 351C V8 gave a res[ectable19 mpg. Not bad for a 4,400 lb. car. But, he was also a professionally trained driver...
@video99couk
@video99couk 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpinckney4979 I wonder what the faults were on the Cricket. The Hillman Avenger certainly didn't have a poor reliability record in the UK, it was a pretty conventional car so the technology was all well understood. Compared to other cars of the time, it was usually very reliable.
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@video99couk IIRC, the ills were a mix of electrical, but with other ills related to the automatic transmission and the air conditioning/pverheating. The a/c problems were very common on 4-cylinder cars back then. Especially with an automatic transmission. On my Pinto, when turning on the a/c, I used to say, "Firing retro rockets!"...Also, it's not unusual for British cars to have problems in this climate. Summertime temps can hit 104F/40C with humidity of 85-95% and brutally cold winters with snow measured in feet and wind chills going into the negative double digits, Now, add to the mix, traffic that ranks as among the worst in the U.S., and you have a recipe for disaster. I suggest you take a look online at the local news shows from our major TV stations: WRC-TV, WTTG-TV, WJLA-RV, and WUSA-TV to see what we have to deal with,. Tomorrow should be interesting as we're supposed to get our worst snow in a couple of years! Cheers!
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to clear something up. The planned obsolescence shared by most GM, Ford, and Dodge cars did not make them unreliable. Rather what they did was simply update the design to make the old design feel dated and get people to buy newer cars. 60's cars were still very reliable cars. Also the 1963 clean air act didn't really take effect until the clean air act of 1970.
@kw9849
@kw9849 3 жыл бұрын
A big reason those old cars didn't last as long as modern ones simply comes down to the materials and technologies available at the time. Modern cars have the benefit of modern materials. For example, car engines used to wear out or need rebuilds very early on by our standards today (sometimes even within 50-80K miles), because lubricants of the period were so primitive. Back when I was younger, old (sometimes not so old) cars emitting varying degrees of blue oilsmoke were a common sight on the road. Nowadays it's a rarity.
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics
@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
@@kw9849 Exactly that too. Lubricants from the 50s and 60s were crap. Project farm did a video on that.
@andrewsmactips
@andrewsmactips 3 жыл бұрын
Please note that when something is cheap to run, it is not “economic.” The correct term is “economical.” “Economic” just means: “To do with money.”
@ShawnD1027
@ShawnD1027 2 жыл бұрын
A minor critique -- at 2:10, you mention "V-6" engines. There were very few V-6s in American cars at that period, they were virtually all I-6s. It wasn't until the early-to-mid '70s that V-6s became a noticeable portion of the market.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
Most car makers offered sixes from the ‘60’s and ‘70’s but most people didn’t want them
@misters2837
@misters2837 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who owned a 1971 Custom 500 (The cheaper version of an LTD) Equipped with the 351W 5.8L FMX Auto and 3.25:1 Gears... the 1972 302 12MPG "Average" number seems quite low, although I didn't drive much "City"... BUT, my car never returned less than 14...got 17-18 on most tanks...and on one long 3000 mile trip averaged 21 on ALL Hwy (BUT I had to keep it under 70MPH) - I would not want to take that little Toyota (or even my newer one) on that 3000 mile road trip!
@kreag
@kreag 3 жыл бұрын
I find it unbelievable that a production of this size would identify the EPA as making regulations in 1963 when it did not exist until the Nixon Administration. EPA was born in July 1970
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 3 жыл бұрын
15:03 Various re-workings of that Chevette were manufactured in GM factories around the world, but were all built on the same Isuzi platform, mechanicals, & engines, from Japan! Here in Australia it was sold as the GMH (Holden) Gemini!
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 3 жыл бұрын
The Chevette was based on a Opel model not a Isuzu. GM used the Opel Kadett design as a basis for the Chevette. When German manufactured Opel vehicles were no longer imported into the United States they were replaced with a Isuzu Gemini rebadged as a Opel by Isuzu.
@madlionau
@madlionau 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamegler8771 The platform was used amongst many GM brands doesnt really matter if originated in Germany or Japan or Aus or US
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 3 жыл бұрын
@@madlionau The Chevette was developed from a Opel design and was manufactured in the United States. It was conceived well before GM had any partnership with Isuzu. The Isuzu Gemini used a totally different chassis and was larger than the Chevette and neither the Chevette or Kadett used any significant parts, other than the 1.8 liter diesel , produced in Japan. True the basic design was manufactured by GM in several factories around the world but it wasn't, as the original reply suggested , a product of Isuzu design and manufacturer.
@flyingcod14
@flyingcod14 3 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of Yank metal since I was 13 and saw a photo of '53 Cadillac in a magazine and I was hooked for life. Great documentary.
@luislealsantos
@luislealsantos 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel about transportation. Another excellent and relevant vídeo. Thank you.
@edculle
@edculle 3 жыл бұрын
And now everyone in the US drives big, gas guzzling pickup trucks and SUVs instead of cars. They'll never learn 🙄
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
Not just the US with the swamping of roads with SUVs.
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 3 жыл бұрын
Not all, but certainly too many that don't need either, especially with pickups.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
That's a bigoted overgeneralization
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook 3 жыл бұрын
Learn? They were forced to drive pickups when large sedans were outlawed. It is just an example of government communism.
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImForwardlook Can you elaborate on what you mean by "Communism" in this context?
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 2 жыл бұрын
"The Malaise Era" seems to attach itself to more than just American cars, the post-Vietnam budgets meaning that early 1900's era slums were left unfixed, as was early 20th c. infrastructure, drugs, La Cos Nostra, Civil Rights; all highly challenging issues at the time.
@mrdrfez
@mrdrfez 3 ай бұрын
Ford and GM have been developing fuel efficient subcompact cars in the late 1960s (well before the oil crisis); with the Ford Pinto and the Chevrolet Vega being introduced in late 1970 (3 years before the oil crisis) for the 1971 model year. Both vehicles were initially very successful and sold extremely well during the oil crisis (with the Pinto being the best-selling vehicle in the US for the 1974 model year). The problem was that their subcompacts were of garbage quality (smoking engines, cracked engine blocks, instant rust right out of the dealership, gas tanks prone to exploding, etc.) due to toxic corporate management and pennypinching accounting by both FoMoCo and GM.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 3 жыл бұрын
Small correction to the assertion made around 2:10 -- the cars of the era you are referring to there were not powered by V6 and V8 engines; they were powered by straight 6 and V8 engines. V6s didn't become popular until much later in the US car industry, when compact cars became more popular, and the compact dimensions of the V6 became enough of an advantage to make up for the difficulties engineers always have compensating for the inherent primary imbalance in the V6 configuration. Inline 6s are inherently balanced, which is great, but they are long and narrow and make inefficient use of the space inside the engine bay, so when cars got smaller, they were out. Also, a V6 is better for transverse mounting to go with front wheel drive. When rear wheel-drive, full size cars were the hot sellers, that wasn't really a problem. and most American cars of the golden era of motoring had a straight 6 as the base model engine.
@krisharris6736
@krisharris6736 3 жыл бұрын
As I recall British cars werent all that reliable either. Whom ever wrote this seems like the kind of guy that likes the smell of his own farts!!!
@DMX-PAT
@DMX-PAT 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Mercury on that list of subsidiary manufacturers, great video!!
@arnepianocanada
@arnepianocanada 3 жыл бұрын
Cimarron, called the worst rebranding of all time, was done despite wise advice against it. Iacocca was infamous and fired for knowing yet ignoring Ford Pinto gas-blowup dangers - but made such success at Chrysler that massive gov't loans were repaid early.
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 3 жыл бұрын
Chrysler rehashing a Hillman for the US market sounds like a sensible tactic; taking an existing small, efficient British design and selling it in the US, rather than starting from scratch to make a unique model for the American market. It makes you wonder why Ford and GM didn't do the same thing with their own British/European models.
@DiscoBallGaming
@DiscoBallGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Almost nothing back then used V6 engines but good video. Inline 6 was the popular engine for the torque.
@cacline72
@cacline72 3 жыл бұрын
AMC did pump out one good product before their death, the 1984 Jeep Cherokee XJ, like the Dodge Caravan it basically created the SUV boom we all know today.
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 3 жыл бұрын
It should be pointed out that the Cherokee XJ was designed mostly by Renault.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
The car that became the Eagle Premier was engineered by AMC and Renault. It's underpinnings were the basis for all of Chrysler's "cab forward" cars that saved them once again, as they had nothing in house to replace the aging K-platform.
@shebbs1
@shebbs1 3 жыл бұрын
That maket segment was not attributed to the Cherokee in most of the world, we had been driving Subaus and even Ladas years prior, and American cars started few trends outside the US, though there were a couple.. Trouble for them is there were foreign, initially Japanese, makers who built better designs.
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 3 жыл бұрын
@@shebbs1 Not completely true in the case of the Cherokee XJ as it was technically innovative in several ways. Renault and AMC designed it to be the right format for worldwide sale and indeed the 4-cylinder and diesel versions were a planetary success. At the time, it's Selec-Trac transfer with its ability to shift between 2wd, full-time 4wd (open diff), and part-time 4wd (locked diff) on the fly was unique in world production. The Lada Niva, for example, has to come to a full stop in order to engage diff lock and it has no 2wd mode. Ditto for the Range Rover of the day. The Japanese SUVs of the time had to come to a full-stop just to switch between 2wd and 4wd, and many still required manually locking the front hubs when going into 4wd. In the end the Cherokee XJ was produced or assembled in many countries with the last one being produced in China in 2014.
@brettkirkpatrick464
@brettkirkpatrick464 3 жыл бұрын
If memory serves me, wasn't the Grand Cherokee (ZJ) in the works as well, which was another reason to for Chrysler to buy AMC?
@jondstewart
@jondstewart 3 жыл бұрын
5:23, the Ford Thunderbird looked like a bloated 2 door LTD.
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 3 жыл бұрын
We had a a ‘68 or ‘69 4-door version of this platform when I was a kid. Had a 429 ThunderJet , landau bars on a croc-skin pattern roof and suicide doors!
@Dsdcain
@Dsdcain 3 жыл бұрын
Having grown up in this time period I can remember the biggest problem with the early Japanese cars was with the bodies rusting out in northern US because of road salt in winter. It was a problem because the engines would be in good shape mechanically usually longer than the bodies of the cars would hold up. I remember bombing around back roads in the 80s in a, I think, a very rusted 1971 Toyota Corona wagon. Good times. I also bought a 1986 Cavalier in 1988 that my future, well and present wife drove, while I got rid my 1987 Camaro do to outrageous insurance costs, and bought a brand new Nissan 4X4 pickup. Base as base can be. Of course I was sort of young and hadn't really cared about car payments as long as I could make them. 🤔😎
@owensparrow62
@owensparrow62 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for taking the trouble to produce it. Perhaps a few less numbers next time guys!
@farmalmta
@farmalmta 3 жыл бұрын
Numerous quite good American small cars with small displacement engines were available including the Willys Jeep station wagons, Hudson Jet, the Nash Metropolitan, the Ford Falcon, the Chevrolet Nova, the Dodge Dart, the Chevrolet Corvair, etc. They were poor sellers because larger more powerful cars were overall a better fit for the long journeys on highways and family sizes. Remember that the entire England/Scotland land mass is much smaller than just the state of Texas. It's a longer drive from El Paso to Nacadoches than from El Paso to Los Angeles, CA. A little VW Bug totally sucked on that drive.
@sorrymabbad
@sorrymabbad 11 ай бұрын
I think this new era of American massive pickup truck will soon be remembered as a second malaise era, because holy shit, where else would you need such big monsters?
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of distortions here. Does not understand the late 50s demand for smaller cars with Rambler and Studebaker doing so well. Led soon after to the Ford Falcon, Chrysler Valiant and chev Corvair. All six cylinder lighter cars. Then soon after the chev nova. Except Corvair all were inline sixes. Falcon sold near as many as the Mustang in its early years and the Mustang was based on it. Quotes the largest engine option as being standard, but even full size were mostly in line sixes until the late sixties. VW Beetle impact ignored.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
There was a fairly major recession in the late 50's that caused AMC to resurrect the Rambler American and Studebaker to lop several inches off both ends of it's standard sedan and create the Lark. And the big three to follow suit in 1960.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 жыл бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 The recession combined with Big 3 autos that had grown in size so much that many garages in the era wouldn't hold them.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggy7665 I've seen old text that parking garages had to refuse the '59 Cadillac, as they couldn't be maneuvered around the turns.
@DaBoogie049
@DaBoogie049 3 жыл бұрын
awesome docu!
@toomanyuserids
@toomanyuserids Жыл бұрын
Malaise started with the bloat of the late '60s and really took off with the GM Norwood strike of 1972 and the bumper regulations. Did not begin to cover for a dozen years and some would argue that except for the 5.0 Mustang and the Telnack Thunderbird it didn't come out for longer.
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 3 жыл бұрын
1973 Oil Crisis. . . When the Oil companies were keeping tankers at sea while the prices were rising. . .
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 3 жыл бұрын
Because they had all been unloaded, and had nowhere to go to load up again. They were EMPTY.
@stargasm1000
@stargasm1000 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting presentation and an accurate one as well. It seems that there are still some lessons that must be learned; American car companies have never really been able to make money on smaller cars. This is why the large land yacht of the 60s-80s has become the pickup & SUV today, with Ford no longer even selling cars (save for the Mustang) in the US market (because they aren't profitable). If they could only sort the profitability problem, things might be better for them.
@mopar_dude9227
@mopar_dude9227 Жыл бұрын
Actually, it is full of inaccuracies, especially the part of cars of the 50s and 60s only lasting 3-5 years and then being scrapped. Those cars lasted for decades. This guy has no idea about the American car market.
@MilesBellas
@MilesBellas 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Add a condensor microphone and ambient sounds/music ?
@OIcu-go2tk
@OIcu-go2tk 3 жыл бұрын
This era was the last generation of distinct styling. In the 80's everything began to look the same and lost their uniqueness. It is no wonder we have alarms to find our own cars these days.
@matthewbrown2037
@matthewbrown2037 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting video, well researched and presented. It always amazes me the way the big three, so used to having just about the whole US market to themselves, up until the late sixties,, selling huge gas guzzling cars, only to lose it so quickly, as they just couldn't get their heads around building small economical cars when needed. Unfortunately, back in the mid seventies, any American cars that got anywhere close to 20mpg was classed as economy models. They were not. If you look at video footage of a highway from the 50/60's almost every car is from one of big three and many from AMC. Fast forward 20 years, it's a very different story, plus AMC no longer exists.
@proofbox
@proofbox 3 жыл бұрын
This thing is full of mistakes and misses a important event . In 1974 when the Mustang 2 came out it outsold the Camero, Firebird, Barricuda, Chalenger, and Javelen combined, muscle car guys didn't like it but it sold very well
@robertpryor7225
@robertpryor7225 3 жыл бұрын
And they sold one with a 302 V8 crammed in
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't we in a malaise era right now? It's called the SUV boom
@dmj-ju9zx
@dmj-ju9zx 3 жыл бұрын
The Maverick predated the Pinto. It came out in 1970 and the Pinto in '71.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 3 жыл бұрын
The Maverick was really a re-skin of the Falcon and Ford only got away with calling it a "small car" because the wheelbase of the 2-door version, the only one available for the first extended production year, was cut by 7 inches. The Pinto, on the other hand, was designed from the ground up as a small car.
@CamaroAmx
@CamaroAmx 3 жыл бұрын
@@pcno2832 the whole Pinto catches on fire thing was blown way out of proportion by the media. It was actually very rare. In order to sensationalize the story, they rigged the demonstration. They filled the trunk of the pinto with flammable material and actually set on fire on cue with the crash. Of course why wasn’t the mustang II and Mercury Bobcat ever talked about and don’t have the same reputation even though they are the same vehicle underneath and have their gas tanks in the same spot? They did it again with the small suvs that supposedly rolled over in the late 80s. They actually loaded the vehicles with uneven weight and had a stunt driver perform maneuvers to get it to roll performing maneuvers that would make a Ferrari test driver queasy. Supposedly it took over 30 attempts to get it to flip. Of course that was the only clip they aired on the report. The original idea was to hurt imports like the Suzuki Samurai and Izuzu Trooper, but it bled over to the Bronco II, Jeep CJ-5, CJ-7, Wrangler and s10 Blazer and still puts a stigma on small full frame and unibody SUVs today (like the Ford Explorer). While both of these came out that they manipulated the tests, it wasn’t until years after the vehicles had gone out of production and they made a big impact on the public at the time of airing.
@FireAngelZero
@FireAngelZero 3 жыл бұрын
Every Saturday I love seeing your videos show up! Cheers from New England!
@chaosdemonwolf1
@chaosdemonwolf1 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers from the original England, lol.
@FireAngelZero
@FireAngelZero 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, cheers! From one England to the OG England!
@darrellenglish8528
@darrellenglish8528 3 жыл бұрын
I will still take my old 1966 Lincoln Town Car any day over any of these Toys you are pumping up ... You don't find anyone looking for a Gremlin or Pacer in the Antique Car Market .
@ian_b
@ian_b 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the Pinto, as we see from the footage it primarily set fire to the car that had rear ended it.
@CoyoteCoop
@CoyoteCoop 2 жыл бұрын
Now the cars didn’t perform great, but you can’t say that some of them were ugly, yes some were, but Lincoln’s and Cadillacs from the era looked pretty descent
@niksan_908
@niksan_908 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Can't wait for the next one! Keep up the good work 👏
@snappy452
@snappy452 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, lads.
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 3 жыл бұрын
The OPEC oil embargo was really the beginning of the Middle East countries losing control of their only real export. Price increases in oil caused American car companies to produce more fuel efficient cars, and encouraged the American oil companies to develop more fuel resources here instead of importing them. In 2020, we now have some of the most fuel efficient cars in the world, including electrics and hybrids, and the country is nearly fuel independent. It's a good example of how monopolies have no long term future.
@rustyshackleford6069
@rustyshackleford6069 Жыл бұрын
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