What Was Up With Those Giant Victorian Skirts?

[@meandmyopinion6155]

My grandmother used her big skirts and dress to smuggle parrots from Mexico in the 40’s. I am not saying it was ok that she did this but it is a family story that we laugh about all the time now. She loved birds and with no internet she had to go where the specialty birds were. Then she had to get them home. So under her skirts they went. She would give them a thimble of whiskey to make them sleep so they were quiet. I can tell the story now, since she is in heaven. My sweet grandma, the bird smuggler.

[@zebraskin]

That's pretty awesome tbh.

[@kathryncarter6143]

Wonder how she explained the strange peeps & squawks coming from under her skirt? Strange form of gas maybe?

[@aspenenglish4976]

Drunk birds under her skirt? I LOVE IT!!!!

[@IRosamelia]

so...nobody seems to have issues with smuggling exotic wildlife? I just had to say that 🤔

[@enaibee1661]

She smuggled birds that were from the wild? That's pretty sad But rip your gma

[@fruitpatrol6847]

You always explain things I never knew i needed to know

[@ivareskesner2019]

But you're glad that you now do?

[@mariannevontrapp1063]

😂

[@BlessedJanna9163]

It's always good to know history

[@thekingshussar1808]

Sorry, this guy took in some victorian misconceptions and satirist bias

[@eviebraud1307]

Yeah most fashion historians will tell you that the negative things you hear about corsets and Victorian undergarments is misinformation

[@u.s.s.enterprise7118]

As a historical costumer who makes and wears Victorian dresses, dresses with crinolines are far more comfortable, versatile, and easy to wear than other options from the era. If it's hot out, you can wear fairly little underneath them, and if it's cold, you can layer with warm stockings and boots. Hoops are flexible, you can move through doorways, sit, and even lounge on the ground in them. Just like today, Victorians had winter and summer wardrobes- they wouldn't wear a wool dress during August- they'd wear breathable materials and light colors. Also like today, fashions in warm parts of the world were different than fashions in cold parts of the world. Finally, corsets (if fitted properly, and not tight laced) can be fairly comfortable. A well fitted corset doesn't squeeze you, it supports and defines. It's not as comfortable as wearing a modern sports bra, but comfort level is in line with wearing an underwire bra and a pair of spanx.

[@DanetteHoak-cn9su]

Very interesting tx u 💜

[@VictorianMaid99]

Fitting a corset is a lost art.

[@just_a_tiny_dinosaur5014]

Crinolines actually were far more mobile than other skirts at the time, since the only way to achieve the same volume was massive, heavy, layering. As someone whose worn one, they are much easier to move around in, especially once you get used to them!

[@ChristelVinot]

yes and turtles are more mobile than slugs tru

[@southernwanderer7912]

Prior to the crinoline, women could easily drown in water, like streams and rivers, due to the heavy undergarments they wore.

[@aliceweiss2048]

I have personally worn both a crinoline and a full tule petticoat and the crinoline was so much more comfortable. The crinoline had so much more airflow and room to move my legs. The hardest part was sitting down but even that was easy after figuring it out.

[@gillianbergh7002]

@@southernwanderer7912 I can see how a crinoline would be better as there is more chance of it floating. They could also act as a parachute if the wearer had to escape from a fire from an upstairs room or fell from a high building etc. (Mind you, escaping through a window might be tricky.)

[@charlotteazzaro]

I like how you mentioned different perspectives on this, but I think it's important to note that throughout all history, often it was men complaining about what women wore, not women complaining about what women wore.

[@sacrilegioussasquatch]

Yeah, and usually the fine ladies who led fashion dressed more uncomfortably _for fashion_. The clothes were intended to be pretty, not comfortable and those women did it on purpose.

[@susanmccormick6022]

@@sacrilegioussasquatch It's true they can be a nuisance, especially in bad weather or when your hoop declines to stay put But I love wearing them in our shows & would probably wear them all the time if I could.They are so beautiful.Torn jeans?Not so much!

[@sacrilegioussasquatch]

@@susanmccormick6022 They are gorgeous and if I had the money for the fabrics I absolutely would dress like that.

[@susanmccormick6022]

@@sacrilegioussasquatch You could order a hoop probably from a costume shop & then wear a bridal dress over the top.Thats where we get our dresses.I know there's a lady dresses in Victorian style all the time.But although most r ok here,there r about four feral families that would be jerks.Its not worth the hassle.Years ago,we were dressed for our western show & the two ferals who lived next door at the time,said "Do u like dressing like that?"To which my eldest replied "Do u like dressing like jerks?"After a moments silence,the brat said "You dissing me?"Which my son responded to with a smile & slow handclap.They really were the pits.But they did come from a very bad home.Two changed their lives around,two haven't.One actually brags that he has never had a job!They tore our fence down,taught our gentle collie to hate kids & set fire to our caravan.And boasted about it to the firefighters!Their Mom said she wasn't paying for the damage.What IS it with some 'hoomans'?Answers on a postcard plz.

[@nameunknown007]

That's because everybody complained but history recorded only what men said - because women were considered idiots or just some property or museum pieces who just have to do what current culture says, and maybe also it was just men who designed everything for women telling them what they have to wear

[@jooleah]

Bernadette Banner would have some things to say about this.

[@wisedred]

Thought the same of Karolina Zebrowska haha

[@amandastout1948]

Yeah. First of all, corsets were not much more uncomfortable than a bra. They were purchased and made smaller than the wearer, to accommodate the expansions and contractions of normal female life of the period (imagine facing a sinus infection with no antibiotics or effective decongestants--yeah, you'd be off your feed for a while). Corsets are nice back support. What actually killed the corset was the need for steel during World War I forcing women into elastic corsetry---then the women discovering the elastic stuff could actually occasionally be thrown in a wash tub.

[@schube9891]

Yes! I was especially thinking this when it got to the claims of how ‘they didn’t have the moisture wicking underwear we do today’ 😂🙃

[@DannyJane.]

So would Izabela Pitcher.

[@nikita7804]

Yaaas

[@maverickMVK]

Social distancing in victorian era.

[@ffjsb]

Social distancing is just as stupid.

[@patpierce4854]

ffjsb Sorry, I respectfully disagree. Using available tools and behavior changes, to prevent catching an airborne virus that is killing 1 American every 30 seconds, sounds like logical self-preservation to me. Just for fun, have you seen the gadgets made from swimming pool noodles, worn with the intent of creating a "safe zone" around the wearer? Very silly, but they have strange parallels in the Victorian crinoline.

[@sodaaddict8658]

Ikr but corsets are dangerous

[@This_Is_Acting]

@@ffjsb why you gotta ruin the comment! GTFO 💀✌🏻

[@vomit7868]

@@ffjsb Oh so you want to get the virus? Sure go on, don't get help or go to the hospital if you caught the virus.

[@kavi0926]

You always wanna enhance the badonkadonk

[@AndrewVelonis]

I thought that with the crinolette, one was hiding it.

[@FinAl_houR]

Classic😆

[@mikitz]

Victorian era twerking could've been an interesting fad.

[@vomit7868]

@@mikitz ... *B l u r s e d*

[@reeverfalls2069]

The shit is a badonkadonk??! This word concerns me greatly.

[@robertcarter3768]

This is one of my favorite eras in fashion and I think it is a beautiful feminine look. Prior to crinolines women wore layers and layers of petticoats to create the fullness of the fashionable skirts of the time. They were extremely heavy and hot to wear. Crinolines were much lighter and it gives a feeling of floating. Eventually the shape changed to place the fullness to the back which ultimately became the bustles. Crinolines gained a huge popularity again for formal wear and bridal gowns in the 1950s and early 1960s. I found a blue organdy and white lace ruffled crinoline dress at a bridal shop for my prom date in 1982. Even today for most quinceaneras the girls wear huge crinolines for the party. To me it is a spectacular and extremely beautiful look for a special occasion.

[@desertdaisymarie6951]

Actually historical dressmakers have shown that the dresses were weren't as portrayed here.. Also using caricatures instead of fashion plates is a glaring inaccuracy..

[@bigred9428]

He also uses actual photos.

[@howtubeable]

I agree. Prior Attire is a KZbinr that accurately portrays historical fashion.

[@DustBunnyHerder]

@@bigred9428 yeah, nah. He shows later photos mostly satirical of items that aren't the undergarment worn by women. Many of his images aren't from the 1850s which is the crinoline era. These satires exaggerate the garment to try and prove women and fashion are stupid. It's full of lots of misinformation and is hilarious to women who have re-created and worn them.

[@Laudanum-gq3bl]

One of my favorite YT videos ever is an historical clothing expert showing how clothes were altered as a woman’s weight changed. I loved when she showed some that one of the alterations was a janky home-job.

[@amandastout1948]

Two things killed the crinoline: The American Civil War made the standard cotton more expensive, and the greater use of the trains, streetcars, and other rapid transit of the era made crinolines increasingly a bother to deal with. In the crinoline era, one would wear a "traveling dress" that was okay with or without the crinoline, and stored the crinoline separately on the train, to be picked up when you were at your destination. This would be when train travel was rarer, and streetcars that existed were mostly for working-class people. Wearing a travel outfit and storing the crinoline would not be practical on a streetcar, or on an increasingly crowded passenger train. Crinolettes and bustles could get through the narrow passages of trains and streetcars, so they didn't have to be removed. In 1860, you'd get on a train for that very occasional trip from Calais to Paris to Berlin if you were in Europe, or from Chicago to San Francisco. You lived within walking distance of the places where you'd shop. In 1870, you'd take the train to the local seaside, and you'd live a little further from downtown, so you'd take the streetcar on in to downtown to shop.

[@DannyJane.]

The crinoline was replaced with the bustle over a period of less than five years. It used almost as much fabric, but moved the bulk to the back. Economics had little to do with it except maybe in the South, and train travel might have had something to do with it but not much. The majority of the people just didn't travel that much. What killed the crinoline was simple fashion evolution.

[@KatieRoseHere]

I do agree with this statement, but I feel you are missing an important point. When the extreme skirts were lost, it almost perfectly lined up with the freedoms women started to work towards, ie: Rights to vote, the ability to do more sports. The final blows were delivered when the world wars began. Spare fabric was needed for the war effort, and the frivolous fashions were not practical for the hard labor, whether you worked in a farm, in industrial factories, or a women's branch in the army. If I recall correctly, it was World War II when females were allowed to wear trousers. In England, they had city girls go to the country and part of the uniform included trousers. Most likely due to the heavy farm machinery like tractors and sickles. (I cant remember the exact name of the effort, but maybe a proper historian will elaborate). Similarly, Lady pilots also wor trousers. Granted, I'm not claiming to be an expert. I'm nothing more than a nerd on the internet. -KR

[@amandastout1948]

@@DannyJane. I'd say it was more the expansion of transit than economics, true. But the end of the American Civil War allowed the Industrial Revolution in America to expand rapidly, and train travel was not as limited as before, making trains more crowded. It was easier to "improve your skirt" in a way that didn't have to be removed to keep your petticoats out of your neighbor's lap.

[@amandastout1948]

@@KatieRoseHere Not much was changed between 1860 and 1870 as far as womens' rights were concerned. Working class women who had to work on the big machines left the crinolines for the weekend. It was steel that was needed for the war effort, which put women in less-boned stays for the war. And suddenly, women discovered that without a bunch of steel bones to rust, that elastic thing could be washed occasionally--and they never went back!

[@KatieRoseHere]

@@amandastout1948 Thank you for correcting me. (I'm not the best with dates.) I was referring to the fact that cotton (primarily grown in the south) became more scarce due to the fighting. What new cotton was made was used for bandages and other needs for soldiers. I guess it is worth mentioning that I was referring more towards the Edwardian era and World War one as well. It would make sense that during wartime, people would dress nice to lift morale. I mean, Victory red lipstick and Victory curls (World war II) because popular beauty styles for that reason. -KR Edit: Grammer

[@HattieMcDanielonaMoon]

**Patiently waits for Karolina to react to this**

[@ValenShadowpaw]

Her or bernadette, they keep saying victorian like they were popular for the entire 73 years of Victoria's reign. They really only lasted maybe a decade at most.

[@rokssolana]

@@ValenShadowpaw They also call bustles "crinolines". But I can't say I'm disappointed, this is just the way it usually goes. Made me question other videos on this channel, though.

[@hannamadsen]

@@ValenShadowpaw *20 years of bustles are quaking*

[@elainehill6504]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[@cherisseepp5332]

I was trying to decide if I should correct them myself or wait for Karolina or Bernadette and their more expert advice.

[@nostop8894]

As someone studying fashion history in college, there is a wild amount of misinformation in this video

[@riel8428]

Like what?

[@hannamadsen]

@@riel8428 If you really wish to know then it is almost the whole video, except for when he references books ect.. You can do a bit of proper research if this topic interests you!

[@wht-rabt-obj]

Agreed!!

[@youtubehandle_kate]

Studying fashion history in college... 😂🤣

[@6.4inAz]

"You can do proper research..." *laughs in astrophysics*

[@dani802ella]

There a lot of historical inaccuracies here 😔. Watch Karolina Żebrowske and Bernadette Banner for more accurate information of that time. Also Prior Attire shows a lot of the undergarments and how they were put on!

[@normanouard2288]

Yes, yes

[@sanest-luchino-fan]

Bruh what would meme mom think of this video?

[@normanouard2288]

@@sanest-luchino-fan not very highly, I suppose

[@susanbrogan2517]

@@sanest-luchino-fan What does bruh mean?

[@howtubeable]

Prior Attire is a great channel. Check it out.

[@pcbassoon3892]

If you ever see how historical crinolines move, they really are more flexible than you think. Whale bone is about as flexible as a fingernail and if they were metal, they were thin wire. The connections between the hoops were soft strips of fabric so the crinoline could completely collapse vertically.

[@Mscoloraturakae]

The people writing this have clearly never worn a crinoline. You could sit down and move through doors; they were not horrendously uncomfortable. True, if your skirt caught on fire, you wouldn't be able to get it off, but the same can be said for any dress with multiple layers of petticoats and a train. The ballerinas that died were not wearing crinolines when their costumes caught on fire. Women working in industrial areas did not wear crinolines to work- they wore work dresses with some petticoats underneath, but no actual cage crinoline. One purpose of the crinoline was to create space between the woman those around her; it helped enhance and preserve her modesty. I'm waiting for the video about how horrible corsets were, and how they killed and deformed women. 🙄

[@iilxvelyii5406]

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not-

[@castielsgranny4308]

@@danicemarielobrin Wearing a corset for a show is not the same as putting a corset on at age 12-14 and wearing one everyday for the rest of your life. They prevented normal development, changed the way you grew. I guarantee the corsets we wear onstage nowadays are easy to wear compared to how tightly-laced and stiff they were.

[@Mscoloraturakae]

@@iilxvelyii5406 which part?

[@iilxvelyii5406]

@@Mscoloraturakae it was at like 2 am when I commented that but the part with the “🙄” emoji seemed kinda rude i was very tired though so I apologize if I didn’t make any since

[@Draconea77717]

@@castielsgranny4308 watch these before you make any further misinformed comments about corsets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH_ahaSXo9Vjd9k kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbbe6ahd7-WjZI

[@manifestationsofasort]

1. Corsets aren't heavy or harmful if they're made well and worn correctly. 2. Fabric was very expensive, and if you could buy it, you would wear as much as possible to signal high status.

[@seekertosecrets]

7:08 So they were social distancing before social distancing was a thing!

[@macekreislahomes1690]

Sitvly true

[@eej1983able]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DuchessOfDoofus]

4:52 " *their* underwear was stiff and heavy" _shows the lightest fluffiest pair of combinations (mind you popularised 20 years after crinolines) I've seen in my life_

[@DuchessOfDoofus]

@Tsuki Kizzu yes EXACTLY! Imagine if this guy did more research than his own assumptions 🙄

[@ericawolfe1445]

Doesn't matter the era, get too close to a fireplace in a long draped skirt and it's bound to catch. Be it a skirt layered with petticoat, a crinoline, or a wedding dress from Wish, any dress could be called a fire hazard in a time when fireplaces were in every home.

[@admiralduckshmidt2248]

Yea in fact I would call 15th century the age of extreme fire hazard dress (long flowing dresses with extreme need for fire due to the cold and no other sources of heat)

[@sneezerabbit]

A lot of fabric back then was more flammable, try lighting different fabric on fire to see what I mean. Some just burst, some smoulder.

[@MyHam-os4bq]

Wedding dress from wish lmfao. I’m dead

[@elirchi9214]

@@sneezerabbit Still, you should be self-aware of your distance from a fireplace in a big poofy dress, because nothing can change the way a fireplace works.

[@elirchi9214]

YES. It's all a matter of self-awareness. For fireplaces, it's your responsibility to not get close to them. For furniture and accesories like vases, etc., need not worry, because they're arranged in a way that big, poofy dress will not accidentally bump them over.

[@bsilveria6084]

Who is the narrator? He does a great job 👏🏻

[@Lumeniaellina]

I have a theory it’s Stephen Colbert

[@johnkelly5419]

0:22 Minor error. "The Prestige" came out in 2006 not 1990.

[@chrissyknowsitall5170]

I think he does too!! He has a great sense of humor.

[@emilygilbeyful]

Yeah it's super professional. I like his voice I'm really easily annoyed by narrators who mispronounce thing that are common vocabulary or easily checked.

[@spiffygonzales5899]

There is no narrator. He is the voice in all our hearts :')

[@alyssahardbarger7973]

I feel like the researcher didn't look at people doing modern research about wearing historic clothes and focused on the satirical comics and complaints

[@ae5631]

do we have any eyewitnesses here who wore these clothes? no? then everything is speculation. not only in this video...

[@ahsokatano6361]

@@ae5631 you seem to be rinsing through alot of comments criticising this videos historical inaccuracies with asinine statements such as this. Why?

[@lajoyous1568]

@@ae5631 do we have modern women wearing Victorian clothes on a regular basis? YES, not a lot, but yes. Sewn using the same technique and materials as in Victorian times? YES. Do they whine and complain about how uncomfortable they are? NO. In fact many are actively comparing their modern day clothes to their vintage clothes and often find themselves much more comfortable with the vintage clothes.

[@ae5631]

@@ahsokatano6361 asanine statements? oh yeah? women have always been squeezed into some kind of pigeonholes and had to endure a lot for fashion and beauty. it's all crap. do you walk around with one of these every day? if so, you can make fun of me, but not otherwise, all right?

[@ae5631]

@@lajoyous1568 today they do it because they like it and want it and feel comfortable with it - i think. at that time it was worn because it was expected of them and it was simply fashionable at that time. one is wanting, the other is having to...

[@christinegallo4983]

Before making these claims about how “stiff and uncomfortable” undergarments were back then, did you actually consult anyone with real firsthand experience wearing said clothing? The historical costuming community is neither small nor difficult to find, and these people know what they’re talking about. Also as for their lack of modern moisture wicking underwear like we have today: linen does a better job at that than you’d expect

[@reeverfalls2069]

@J Hemphill its.....its kinda funny though. Most of the videos have been enjoyable. This one definitely seems to be pandering to a certain type of audience though.

[@wrongturnVfor]

Well, one thing is certain, nothing will be 100% good in every respect. Things have their downsides and people have personal preferences. While I have heard that women complained about the bother of multiple layers and them being hot. I have never heard anyone say that they were stiff. That argument is reserved for the corsets. Plus, if you were going to wear a large, heavy multilayered dress. crinoline would make walking around with the weight a bit easier. But that would require a more in depth research than what this channel generally does.

[@lovemilkshake]

@@wrongturnVfor have you only listened with one ear ? He absolutely mentionned that crinoline allowed to distribute the weights of the multiple layers more evenly and made it less heavy

[@mariac1160]

Well he does have a quote (5:40) from a woman at the time about how the crinolines relieved them from the weight of a bunch of underskirts and prevented them from clinging to them.

[@mariac1160]

Btw, I'm not claiming there isn't misinformation. I'm just saying that I think some of the people who are upset about inaccuracies were just listening for what they expected to hear.

[@christinegoodnight2915]

As someone who wears hoop skirts at a yearly event, I found this video to be full of misinformation. The hoops are flexible, making it easy to go through doors and sit. If you want someone close to you, there's no issue because the hoops will move to the side or bend. However, you are right about it making it seems like the woman takes up more space.

[@chrisnagle5385]

hunny not back then it was made out of firm unmovable metal and gaauz fabric ect ]

[@fabricdragon]

@@chrisnagle5385 we have museums full of the authentic hoop skirts and crinolines. some were made of metal, but many more were willow and birch, or any number of other materials. however i can buy a metal crinoline, copied from a historical gown, and once you learn how to move in it yes, it can squeeze and shift, and usually the hoops collapse because they were held in rings by cotton twill. like any fashion, there are people who wore extremes, but most people didnt. the only truthful bit in here is that because it took the flammable MATEIAL and gave it a lot of air underneath? yes it was flammable, but then half the fabrics were insanely flammable anyway. add in air under it? WOOSH! and yes, the bigger crinolines could act like an umbrella and get caught up in a wind. certainly.

[@jenniferholmes6644]

This makes more sense than the video

[@DannyJane.]

@@chrisnagle5385 That's not entirely true. Flexible steel was available in the 1850s when crinolines came into popularity. Over the cage one wore up to four petticoats. I've worn crinolines to many events. While they are a bit tricky to navigate in a Fiat, they're much simpler to manage in a horse drawn buggy or a minivan. They're heavier than blue jeans, but not so bad to get around in since one's legs have full range of motion. I could run, jump, climb, sit, stand, play tennis, and ride a horse wearing them. The stories here are utter nonsense, much as most of the garbage you read about corsets. Corsets didn't imprison or suffocate you and crinolines didn't inhibit your movements either. I suggest that if you want to know the real facts about wearing Victorian fashions you find Izabela Pitcher's channel, Prior Attire. She makes and wears garments from all eras. She demonstrates that these were people's everyday clothing and if they were as restrictive as fantasy would have you believe nobody would have gotten anything accomplished. Other B.S. from this video--getting stuck in doorways? Ridiculous. Catching them in machinery? Nonsense. If you were well enough off to wear one you didn't work in a factory. Inside the home the maid servant didn't wear crinolines during the morning's heavy work, but put on a narrow one when she was expected to answer the door and help the mistress of the house while she was receiving callers. I've fallen in my crinoline and it ddin't ride up. The wind story? Oh, REALLY!

[@tessat338]

@@chrisnagle5385 They were also made of fabric tapes to be light and flexible.

[@sunandflowerpots9931]

I love how it's the men that were the biggest critics of smth they dont to personally experience and how hundreds of years later, they still remain the same

[@eviebraud1307]

Yeah I felt like I was being mansplained corsets and crinolines

[@loltadynicneni913]

Sometimes I feel so ashamed of how stupid we, men, are. And there's nowhere I can go else because I'm already trans.

[@sunandflowerpots9931]

@@loltadynicneni913 dont worry the trans ppl are the evolved species and are better than we are

[@loltadynicneni913]

@Fire Starter My intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with me being trans. If someone here is stupid, it's you when you made this connection.

[@loltadynicneni913]

@@sunandflowerpots9931 How does being trans make anyone better than someone else...?

[@cher3093]

I’m not at all sure about this video. Crinoline *was* light and flexible. All fabrics were natural, much cooler than our polys and blends.

[@elizabethniemczyk3814]

Right, crinoline is horsehair. What he should have said was "cage crinoline," which is the proper term. Poly is highly flammable, as well (and will glue itself to your skin if ignited), which is why reenactors are discouraged from wearing it at events, in which there are likely to be a lot of open fires.

[@zebraskin]

I find it funny that it's thought that wrapping yourself in plastic is more absorbent and cooling than natural fibers.

[@ellecampbell5067]

Wool was a common fabric and if you've ever worn a heavy wool coat, you would know how uncomfortable they were. The crinoline was, in fact, only the cage over which the layers of fabric were worn, pounds and pounds of it.

[@elizabethniemczyk3814]

​@@ellecampbell5067 Wool challis was very popular during the middle of the 19th c, and that is quite light. We see lightweight wool fabrics being worn in summer fashions. Wool is actually a very versatile and practical fabric--and also it tends to smolder when lit, very different from cotton which goes up in a poof. And the corset serves to support the weight of the skirts, and makes it a lot easier to carry around.

[@mariac1160]

"When the much lighter crinolines arrived women happily adopted them as a replacement for the period's unwieldy undies. Since the cages lifted the fabric away from the wearer they provided a cooling affect." "'...they know not from their own experience how the crinoline relieves us from the weight of many under-skirts'".

[@elinor1968]

You guys obviously never have watched historical fashion you tubers. The crinoline were collapsible, if they were too wide you can pick up one side and it will be no problem goin through the narrow passage way. Abby Cox has done a video comparing historical outfits to modern outfits when it comes to heat. Their dresses could keep them warm in the winter and cool in the summer depending on the material. Wool(thin wool skirts were common) is not very flammable and extinguishes pretty easy.

[@darbytims5968]

Thanks Sappho. I wear historical dress and the hoops really aren't that uncomfortable. Once you get used to it, you can move quite easily. And you typically did not wear a large hoop skirt when working, only a couple petticoats.

[@greatlakestatedestroyerpet117]

Darby Tims You should upload some videos of your experiences wearing historical dresses. Do you live in the time period according to which historical dress you choose?

[@ae5631]

nevertheless.. these cages were awful.. i dont care which material

[@elinor1968]

@@ae5631 not really cages. They were hoops of cane or wire suspended by vertical ribbons. Very flexible and also supported by the corset at the waist.

[@ae5631]

@@elinor1968 i still don't know if i would find that comfortable....

[@humansarehilarious9239]

These victorian fashion is *chefs kiss

[@avelinealarcon4537]

YES I'm always so tempted to buy a victorian dress

[@AndrewVelonis]

Wha?

[@TheStarswearee]

Yea

[@normanouard2288]

Except victorian fashion You know- changed over the 60 so years. There is no such thing as victorian fashion, my friend. One decade you have modest low toned dresses with smaller skirts the next wide elaborate skirts with tons of frills and decorations, the third more volume in the back and on the ground. It’s like saying “wow I really like these 20th century fashions” Does one mean the new look of the 50’s or the emos of the 90’s

[@humansarehilarious9239]

@@normanouard2288 id still call it victorian fashion. U cant go to antique/vintage stores and say "i want to buy stuffs that look victorian but isnt actually called victorian fashion etc." Id still rather say " do u have Victorian Clothes/Fashion?"😊 anyways thanks for the comment tho

[@philipenos2930]

Dumbest fashion trend are guys who sag their pants.

[@AndrewVelonis]

Is that still a thing?

[@vincentsaysno1510]

@@AndrewVelonis It definitely still is...unfortunately.

[@kendallcaminiti-hess2243]

The "sagging" pants are disgusting no matter how you look at them. 99.9% of the population DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE'S UNDERWEAR! I remember when women wore the low-cut jeans with THONG UNDERWEAR and were "proud" to let anyone and everyone see it!

[@kohakuhime7887]

@@kendallcaminiti-hess2243 Any fashion where you can see ones underwear or butt is tasteless in my opinion. The only exception are swimsuits

[@eskimo4130]

@@kohakuhime7887 Yet they are the same thing essentially. It's just psychology and opinions. Some are happy being a nudist, some are happy wearing a veil.

[@marthabenner6528]

Baleen "whalebone" is the soft cartilage found in a whale's jaw, it's the same stiffness as a zip tie. A well-fitted corset is remarkably comfortable. It Is literally the same size you are and if your squishy your squishy and you can lace down, if you're not squishy you're not squishy and you don't lace down, you can literally make it as loose or as tight as you want, tight lacing may have been popular but only for a small percentage of people and only part of the time. And there's a remarkable amount of room in the rib cage. Steel boning is remarkably flimsy if you're familiar with a bandsaw blade that's how flimsy it is, the boning exists to keep the fabric. The fabric carries all the weight. And spiral steel boning is also like a zip tie it can just curve slightly sideways. And that picture of a crinoline described as a steel horror is made out of Reed.

[@Midlife_Manical_Mayhem]

saying that corsets were uncomfortable and dangerous is a myth. there are many historical garment channels that will show you that when the corset or stays are made for that particular woman and made well, they were quite comfortable and supporting. MOST women did not tight lace, but rather the shape of the corset provided a wide top area, while the padding and crinolins provided a wide hip area. it created a visual effect of having a smaller waist without actually lacing tightly. also, many pictures from that era were actually "photoshopped"/airbrushed to make the waist look much smaller than it actually was. even women who did physical work for a living (farm, maids,etc) wore their corsets daily.

[@CHLOCHLOLP]

What is it that needs supporting? Ive never personally felt like I needed extra physical torso support so Im curious what this is referring to.

[@lajoyous1568]

@@CHLOCHLOLP support for the weight of layers of skirts, also back & bust support.

[@Midlife_Manical_Mayhem]

@@CHLOCHLOLP thtey support the bust, taking the weight off the shoulders and distributing it to the torso/hips. it also helped to support the weight of the multiple petticoats (and/or crinolins) and helped the clothing lay on the torso more smoothley. if you are not particularly large chested, you may not notice a difference. i am very large chested and it is considerable weight on my shoulders and upper back.

[@thisismyname3328]

@@CHLOCHLOLP I’m large chested, and after a few hours wearing a modern bra I have quite intense back pain, I’ve recently started wearing corsets to help, and my back pain problems have reduced dramatically.

[@CHLOCHLOLP]

@@thisismyname3328 Yea I can see that being an issue for women with really big breasts. My friend who is a J cup i think has bad back pain. Im suprised I dont because I have DD, but maybe thats because I havent worn a bra in many years.

[@pamelamays4186]

Suggestion: The Weird History Of Hippie Fashion.

[@lisaahmari7199]

The medieval shoe fashion of men at Court.......toes so long they tied them at the knee. Oh, and pants hanging way down the butts of modern guys. What the HELL?!! Talk about not being able to run from a fire!

[@knaesh]

@@lisaahmari7199 “modern guys” its street slang, to easily put it.

[@livingabomination361]

the start of punk fashion to counter the hippie fashions would also be pretty cool

[@allenjenkins7947]

With 24 kids to clothe, no wonder Isaac Singer invented a better sewing machine. A classic example of necessity being the mother of invention.

[@johannageisel5390]

2:47 The crinolines _were_ more comfortable ... compared to the half a dozen petticoats that have been worn before to achieve the fashionable silhouette.

[@OriginalGlorfindel]

Or the roll of padding tied around the waist to artificially widen the hips.... Idk what it was called.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@OriginalGlorfindel "False rump" or, more wordly, "bum roll". ^ ^ But I'm not sure they are that uncomfortable. Would have to ask a person who wears them regularly.

[@jennyrose9454]

Neither was comfortable. Just wear a toga or a bathrobe. That's comfortable.

[@AdamOMcMurphy]

The current trend which I find odd are the glued on eyelashes that look like spiders coming from the eyes!

[@kathryncarter6143]

And, young girls that shave their eyebrows off to have others tattooed on. That really looks weird

[@aspenenglish4976]

I find them both equally as strange. How can you see with those giant spiders on their eyes? They look ridiculous. What sane person would have their eyebrows shaved off then tattooed on? It looks ridiculous and I’m sure it hurts like a mother..... I’ll just keep my eyebrows and shape them with little pluckers! Then this not with the times woman will use mascara on my lashes. Who wants part of a tarantula glued to their eye? It’s senseless. At this point , the fiery hoop skirt makes more sense than spider eyelashes .

[@thisismyname3328]

@@kathryncarter6143 I’m fairly sure this is a rarity rather than the norm, much akin to tight lacing corsetry, those who did tight lace (and those who shave their eyebrows) did so by there own choice, they were usually rich, or influential, and were commonly mocked or outcast because of it. Believe me when I say, very few people are shaving their eyebrows off, but the wonderful thing about hair is it’s ability to grow back It’s their choice, I don’t see why society should have an opinion about it.

[@AndrewVelonis]

IKR

[@AdamOMcMurphy]

@@thisismyname3328 I agree society should have no say in what other people do. The video asked "comment on what modern trend you find odd...?" Which is why I posted the original comment. No one here is trying to hate, just answering the question.

[@Luischocolatier]

This video has some good points amongst a sea of inaccuracies! -Yes, crinolines are a fire hazard. So is practically any other clothes. The problem is not the material of the crinolines, but the fact that they were sometimes so big that they couldn't control where the skirt would move to, and would sometimes get directly into the fire! -Crinolines were not uncomfortable. They are lightweight and flexible. Many of the "she got stuck, this got trapped..." Were satire articles that mocked everything. -Crinolines aren't supposed to support the dress for the woman. They're making the skirt fuller without having to add layers and layers of petticoats. Women would still have to support all that weight, but at least it wasn't three or four times that with the petticoats. -Victorian underwear was not stiff and heavy! In fact they might have been one of the most baggy, free undergarments ever. In fact, they wicked much more sweat than today's underwear! The secret was in the layering. -The hourglass shape was not a thing during the Victorian era. Yes, corsets were there, but they are like long bras that give shape to the body. They didn't always contract or squish it, most of the time the corset would fit snuggly over the body and pad out the bust or the hip! -Critics hated everything. And ankles really weren't that problematic! In fact, up until the 1840's skirts naturally cut over them, and for young women the trend would extend through all the century! -Again, they weren't that particularly flammable, the problem was how far away from the wearer they were, and how that made it hard to control where the skirt would go, and it sometimes sat right on fire or very nearby, and would catch on fire!

[@patricklandon7476]

I'm now going to use the word "crinoline" like I've known it all my life.

[@johannageisel5390]

Ackchually... A crinoline is a stiff petticoat made from _crin_, which is a fabric from horsehair. The cages were already a step up from this. They were then also called crinoline, but if you should ever encounter a stiff petticoat that's called that word, don't be puzzled.

[@clevername8832]

"She's so HOT!" Lol

[@romella_karmey]

You are hawttt. I luv caucasians

[@sebswede9005]

🎵This girl is on fireee!🎵

[@KaleidoSTAR_PH]

I died on that part 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen]

Cave men be like:

[@seiph80]

@@KaleidoSTAR_PH Me too! Gives a whole new meaning to "that girl's on fire."

[@canmima6529]

In the 1980's I remember teenage girls laying on the bed pulling up their jean zippers with pliers because the jeans were made of actual jean material and were so very tight. One could hardly bend over. Ouch!

[@merryploeg6422]

On the one hand I see what you're saying, but I am so tired of "jeans" that are 80% stretch material and do not hold up at all. Worn out thigh holes are the bane of my wardrobe. I always wish I could find strong jeans.

[@AndrewVelonis]

Try Duluth Trading.

[@CulturalOasis]

@@merryploeg6422 you can.... it’s just going to cost you hundreds of dollars now 😔

[@colleenclement474]

Yeah, that's still happening. I was born in the 80's, but when I was growing up, jeans were the norm. You could buy ones that were more stretchy or comfortable though. But it's always been a pain to find the ultimate comfy pair or a perfect fit Leggings, I can see why theyre more popular now. But when I was growing up it was unthinkable to wear them without a dress or skirt over it because well you were basically still showing your underwear. Tights for us were all see through and only meant as undergarments.

[@bigred9428]

That was the second half of the 1970s. Baggies came in in the 1980s. When I moved from tight to baggy, I felt I lost a lot of support from the tight jeans, but the older I get, and notice more issues with my lower abdomen, I am sorry I wore such tight jeans. I also think that, though they supported me, they did not allow the muscle development I would have normally had.

[@TH-sw6og]

You should do a series on 1970s fashion, houses and everything else groovy and weird about the 70s!

[@SimpleDesertRose]

I would for once would love to hear what an actual dress historian has to say about women's clothing. Such as Abby Cox, Bernadette Banner or Karolina Zebrowska Its seems to me that history is written through the eyes of a man who never wore such garments before. It talks about clothing being flammable, you mean much like most of fast fashion? Everything is made of synthetic materials such as polyester. Very flammable.

[@MorganJ]

Also synthetics tend to melt instead of catching aflame. I don't want to imagine the sensation of melted plastic burnt to my skin. 😖 Fires were, of course, a threat in a time where people were routinely around open flames. I agree that it wasn't a cage crinoline-specific issue.

[@stephenoshea4207]

I am a guy and I have worn civil war ball gowns. They are not uncomfortable at all, plus I also feel insanely feminine and gorgeous while wearing them too. I love how elegant and gorgeous civil war ball gowns are/were.

[@movielibrary3608]

@@shawntownley9338 There's a whole team behind these vids, "he" is just a voice actor. Could have been women on the writing for this one, who knows.

[@EmpressCosplay]

As someone who actually researched historical fashion in depth and owns/wears replica dresses... This is such a clusterfuck of misinformation and stereotypes, damn. Can't wait for Karolina or Bernadette to rip their teeth into this and tear it apart.

[@xSqueakyPeachx]

For real dude

[@jimnpen8451]

Or you could make your own video about it, instead of relying on your champion to save you... j/s..

[@erinstaley6350]

@@jimnpen8451 Actual dress historians who study this for a living instead of throwing up a video after a week of research are "champions"? Okay, dude. Sure.

[@jimnpen8451]

@@erinstaley6350 you missed the point... right over your head.. good job.

[@oxanamanoli3175]

@@jimnpen8451 just misinterpreted, that doesn't change the fact that *it is* better to let people who are actually educated on the topic (the above-mentioned KZbinrs) do the breakdown of the information in the video. It's like you're saying that someone should treat their illness by themselves and not rely of doctors and trained profesionals

[@amyosgood6044]

I love your channel, however, please do correct research. Corsets are not as bad as it has been presumed. Bernnadette Banner has an excellent video on them.

[@JustAGalOnTheGo]

I was thinking of that video while watching this too. I have made/worn all of these undergarments myself and, while more restrictive in movement, they are no less “comfortable” than many modern items. In fact I’d wear a good corset over a bad underwire bra any day.

[@normanouard2288]

Oh god Thank You so much

[@M123Xoxo]

He never said corsets were uncomfortable or bad. Did you even watch the video? It’s about crinolines not corsets.

[@normanouard2288]

@@M123Xoxo well, I suppose they did And he said undergarments in general so that must mean corsets as well, right?

[@galaxy7525]

@@M123Xoxo 6:08

[@meganfulton3563]

It’s interesting that it was men who criticized women’s fashion that offered them comfort when it was men who dictated the beauty standards and how modest a women should be

[@ivareskesner2019]

Whoever told you something like that? No wonder some women hate men so much. Some of you ladies have been downright lied to, brainwashed and agitated to the point where you can't even talk to a man without preemptively assuming he's an arsehole and treating him as such. The machine that is society is far more complex than that. Both men and women are only cogs in the mechanism. Untill just recently one was historically better able to ensure the survival of the species so accordingly took most of the power. In other societies where women were seen as being more valuable, mostly for spiritual reasons, they were the ones who held power (early Celtic and Northern European societies are a great example). We are all subject to the laws of nature and humanity and these laws evolve to best ensure our survival. We have long since gotten to the point where both sexes are equally capable to contribute to this factor. Men are not your enemies. We're your allies, companions and friends. Stop using the few bad examples to illustrate an entire sex. You hate it when it's done to you. Reflect on that.

[@thisismyname3328]

@@ivareskesner2019 You seem like a nice guy

[@ivareskesner2019]

@@thisismyname3328 Thank you.

[@ivareskesner2019]

@Cain's Dog Throughout history all throughout the world it was usually women themselves who were the most ardent defenders of modesty and enforcers of what was deemed acceptable attire, not men. They still are in some countries, in fact. You will not find a more diehard defender of the burka, the hijab or the niqab than the very women wearing them. Plenty of men also joined in, of course, but they mostly weren't the ones who initiated such action. For example, it was almost exclusively other women who used to subject 'immodest' women to mob justice, getting beaten up and shamed. Sometimes killed. Another thing to add is that in the vast majority of cases men weren't the ones telling women what to wear. Women's fashion was usually very much driven by women themselves. In cases where women were culturally expected to wear certain attire, they were doing so alongside men. Noone was singled out and I can assure you that women were judging men's attire just as hard if not harder, and I do believe that this very fact has meant that women have influenced men's fashion as much as visa versa. Men are ultimately the same across all species. We perform various mating displays for the female as animals and as people we dress in a way we think women will find us attractive. So worry not. You have just as much say over what we wear.

[@mirandaferguson791]

@@ivareskesner2019 Fashion industry is run by men and majority of clothing designers are men. Every woman has a friend who has had a boyfriend or husband who has told her on one or more occasion to go change into something less slutty. Slut shaming is done primarily by men. So try again.

[@normanouard2288]

"underwear was stiff and heavy in the 19th century" shows frilly and soft undergarment as well as a man in what is basically a modern day jumpsuit just- you know not made out of plastic

[@GreasySwayze]

That "no, seriously she's on fire" bit made me chuckle lol this channel is quite informative and has its funny moments.

[@etprincipalis]

An unexpected yet ICONIC collaboration would be between you guys and Bernadette Banner. pls make it happen. Thx, weird history

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

I second this motion!

[@natiizamora2784]

She probablly be mad with all the historical inaccuracies in this video...

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

@@natiizamora2784 not probably. She would be lol. But she would give constrictive Criticisms.

[@EagleRue]

@@ladyofnoxus6733 True

[@maplesyrup6052]

@@natiizamora2784 there are inaccuracies? Should I stop watching this channel? Because I want legit information

[@zach7193]

The dress to die for.

[@aiko3799]

The dress to DIE for.

[@josselynaz6614]

The dress to die for

[@ahsokatano6361]

If I didnt watch alot of fashion historians, I would have taken this video as factual without much thought to it. But since I have, there were so many yikes statements, I'm starting to question the previous videos I've watched as well 😬

[@thisismyname3328]

As am I, then again, you can never trust something on the internet

[@eviebraud1307]

Yeah I'm more inclined to believe the people that go back and wear the historical garments

[@stephenbarnes7241]

Care to elaborate? What was misleading or hyperbolic in this? I’m curious to know!

[@eviebraud1307]

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[@eviebraud1307]

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[@jadedmist]

I bought a modern crinoline recently, it's a bridal one. I'm looking to make my own edwardian or victorian style dress, it is slim and not at all victorian like but it should give me a nice shape while still being reasonable. Edit: to be more clear it is not a cage as much as it is a flexible, shaped skirt. Its made almost entirely of fabric with some thicker fabric and thin wire for the rings.

[@bigred9428]

Jaded Mist , I had the type that was just the layers of netting. It looked lumpy under the dress, so you might have to straighten it out a lot

[@howtubeable]

PRIOR ATTIRE is a great channel for understanding historical fashion. The Ultimate Fashion History with Amanda Halley is also excellent.

[@adamjenks9613]

Never knew I needed to be educated about Crinolines. Like a dry run for Poodle Skirts.

[@k4r4k0]

Aa, where is Meme Mom and Morgan Donner and Bernadette Banner? Would love to hear their thoughts about this video!

[@k4r4k0]

Also, would like to add that crinoline is not the only thing victorian women were teased and satirised about many fashion trends through the victorian era ( puffed sleeves for example )

[@kmb6296]

*shows a clip from Becoming Jane* My annoying brain: ACTually Jane Austen lived in the Georgian era not the Victorian era Me aloud to myself: Oh shut up

[@lauriensnijers2322]

love it. I do that to :)

[@OriginalGlorfindel]

Me: Knows the difference between the Victorian and Georgian Eras and why labelled thus... 😉

[@kmb6296]

@@OriginalGlorfindel and @Laurien Snijers Finally! People who know something :)

[@bigred9428]

I thought it was more the regency era. The georgian era was when she was born.

[@kmb6296]

@@bigred9428 Yes, you are also right- the Regency era was at the tail end of George III’s reign when his son George IV was acting as ‘regent’ for his father in his declining health. So still Georgian era, with the added sub era of Regency. Georgian era ended with George IV’s death in 1830.

[@Coast-to-Coast]

Half of the pictures and drawings in this video are not of real crinolines, but pictures and drawings meant to mock and exaggerate what wearing a crinoline was like - the criticism and satire the video talks about. Hardly a fair, true representation. Also, the video often uses pictures of Edwardian undergarments, not Victorian ones. For example, at 6:02 a picture of a woman with a Gibson girl hairstyle (which was Edwardian) and an Edwardian S-bend corset is shown with the narration of "during the Victorian era." This particular portion of the video also seems to imply that women wore corsets until the crinoline was invented, and that crinolines eliminated the need for corsets. This is very untrue. Corsets were worn into the 1910s, the Edwardian era, with variations of them existing decades later in vintage fashion, in the form of girdles and such. Crinolines, like other skirts, were tied over the corset. Both were necessary to achieve the fashionable silhouette, and corsets were helpful and comfortable when they were well-made, like the Victorian woman in that quote said herself at 5:55.

[@MDaggatt]

Accurate parts of this video: Crinolines existed. Women wore crinolines. Thats it.

[@MylkT1023]

That and crinoline fires. Husbands were actually advised to get life insurance on their wives because of crinolines.

[@normanouard2288]

So true

[@admiralduckshmidt2248]

Yea but when it was invented is also wrong Karolina said it’s literal bullshit (they claimed 1800 not 1860)

[@di7209]

@@admiralduckshmidt2248 I absolutely adore how Karolina has become a go to for fashion history it’s amazing

[@Soundless_life]

My grandma had one of those singers sewing machine in her house when I was younger

[@joseayala2940]

Same here

[@lajoyous1568]

I have one now...and I use it.

[@zebraskin]

@@lajoyous1568 I always like seeing other fellow early machine users. My mom learned to sew on the one I have and sewed thru her finger.

[@lajoyous1568]

@@zebraskin thanks for the warning 😉 my modern machine struggles through 3 layers of cloth, however my treadle singer won't even slow down.

[@valeriekelly-arn4065]

My Mom had a few. She was from the Philippines and believed in making some our clothes!

[@diamondstuddedpunchingbag4718]

When worn correctly a corset is VERY comfortable!!

[@dianacalahorra9467]

I still wear one, however, it’s not so stiff! I love how elegant I feel in it.

[@kellicos]

I’m surprised crinolines didn’t have a comeback during pandemic…instant 6 ft separation! 😂

[@Little_Lotta]

As much as I love Weird Histories videos, this video is full of inaccurate stereotypes.

[@eviebraud1307]

True, I would take a properly tailored Victorian corset over my bra any day. Just imagine the back support.

[@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen]

@@eviebraud1307 bet

[@CIorox_BIeach]

@@eviebraud1307 Wearing a back support will allow it to weaken and then you could become reliant, however. I personally would only use a corset for a couple of weeks after childbirth to hold everything up and that's it. Modern bras suck, but the old style, stiff woven cotton ones are actually super comfy. I made one for myself with spiral stitched, semi bullet style cups and it's the best thing ever, even tho I'm not an awesome seamstress, or tailor.

[@CIorox_BIeach]

Weird history actually has a lot of random inaccuracies in their content. Be careful.

[@Little_Lotta]

@@CIorox_BIeach Yeah, I’ve been noticing that lately :(

[@jacoblopez9207]

Love these videos🖤 keep it up Weird History.

[@jeanfennessy8154]

I hated underwire bras, very uncomfortable.

[@carrywon8767]

I would point out, some of the sources used here are (like the one in 1901) are decades late for the crinoline fashion. by then crinolines(1850s) were outdated, being replaced by a new silhouette every decade, It's like us making fun of 2000's or 80-90s fashion. But as fashions evolve, so did the critics, even the 20s made fun of the Edwardian for very silly fashion choices.

[@restock_1731]

Ahhh, Sunday morning, Weird History video. Life is good.

[@ultimatebishoujo29]

I know right?

[@rosaliemoon5905]

As an ex-RenFester, the only time my hoop got in the way was when I got into the car. Yes, the back collapses, but I had to fold the sides over my lap and hold them. Fortunately, I was a passenger and we didn’t drive to long😅😅😅😅

[@courtneycherry5582]

That's why the skirts were so big....they were full of secrets. 😂

[@flashback6964]

"That girl is on fire!"... no seriously she's actually on fire... I love this channel 😂

[@Marie-sx5jb]

Who's here before meme mom reacts to this hot inaccurate mess? 😂 Can't wait

[@goodness_graciousme]

I've never been this early man hahaha. Weird history.. thank you for keeping me entertained. Could you cover one one with Richard the 3rd? I'd love you to cover that or Oliver Cromwell :)

[@glennt69lol]

Agree, Cromwell is an interesting character

[@joanreeseNYCartist]

Weird History is my favorite channel! Thank you

[@nilevalleyafrican9451]

Your narration is so educational and funny at the same time 😂

[@tealablu3759]

I have a crinoline skirt, not a hoop skirt, that I wear with my ball gown. I love cosplay, and ball gowns are my jam. There’s a chance I may have threatened to wear them to work to enforce social distancing (I work in a lab LOL). Also, I went to the Longfellow house during a summer camp as a kid, and they talked about how his wife died. She had stepped on a match before they had safety matches, so the friction of her walking lit it. Longfellow tried to put her out, and I’m pretty sure he got some burns too in the process

[@DerREALpatrich]

9:27 And here we have an early shitpost

[@Lauren.E.O]

Blown over by the wind 🤣🤣🤣 Imagine them flying off Mary Poppins style...

[@JedagJedugAmatodanCollab]

Cool, keep up the enthusiasm for creating content 💗💗😁😁

[@whatalsaid]

I'm gonna wait to see what Bernadette Banner thinks about this before I place judgement.

[@donnawoodman6249]

It is just plain weird that you can buy new jeans that are pre ripped from hip to ankle. Other garments are made pre ripped also, such as sleeves.

[@islandgal500]

I don't understand it either because these items usually cost a lot. The trouble is after a few washes, there isn't much fabric left, so I don't think they last long. I remember in the 80s, my husband cut off his jeans to shorts and I asked him if he wanted me to hem or reinforce the bottoms. He said no, so every wash they got shorter and shorter one row unraveling at a time. Good thing he only wore those at home.

[@d.g.n9392]

I’m giving one of those to my mother-in-law for Christmas

[@Mech-Mech]

Sagging your pants is probably the dumbest trend we got rn

[@OriginalGlorfindel]

In the winter I enjoy telling them thier butts must be cold or are going to get cold... They look at me funny and I admit that despite 2 pair of pants my thighs are numb with cold and ask about thier cheeks. Usually they consider it, and tug them up.

[@ChristelVinot]

I like how you often use music I've played before in orchestras.

[@baylorsailor]

Working women did not wear crinoline. Impractical clothing would be for middle to upper class women who did not work. Same goes for tight lacing. It was a fad for young, upper class women mainly. Few did it. Also don't believe what you see in old Victorian photos. They touched up the waist of women often on the photo. Early Photoshop. Very common practice.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

Let's see; so women wore a highly flammable dress that they couldn't remove easily at all during a time that artificial light and heat were almost exclusively created by fire. Gee, nothing could possibly go wrong with that combination, I say sarcastically! That is some killer fashion!

[@DannyJane.]

Not a single word of it is true. People worked very hard back then. Clothing had to be sturdy and easy to move around in. This video perpetuate every single lie ever made up about Victorian clothing. NONE of it is true.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

@@DannyJane. Well, pertaining to the flammability of the crinoline asserted in the video, these sources corroborate said assertions: www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/c/corsets-and-crinolines-in-victorian-fashion/ www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2020/01/women-hooped-petticoats-in-the-united-states/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinoline#Hazards historydaily.org/crinoline-victorian-fashion www.branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=rebecca-n-mitchell-15-august-1862-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-cage-crinoline I'm afraid that I'll tend to believe these sources before I'll believe your unsourced rebuke.

[@DannyJane.]

@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 I never said they NEVER happened, but it was really rare. In a house where cooking was done over open flames accidents did--and do still--happen. But they were rare. When you live in your clothing you know how to take precautions--in any period of history. The biggest danger were sparks, which happened at any time you care to name.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

@@DannyJane. "This video perpetuate every single lie ever made up about Victorian clothing. NONE of it is true." Those are your words saying that NONE of the assertions in this video are true. Oh yeah, you also claimed that "Not a single word of it is true". The video asserts that the crinolines were a fire hazard; by your own words, you claim that's a lie. I provided corroborating sources that refute your flawed assertions. Whether by deception or ignorance, you lied. Save your backpedaling for someone gullible enough to fall for it.

[@Jackson-nr2mw]

Wow, poeple love spreading mis information about historical fashion

[@ThePie_NedGreen]

I like to believe it actually has turtle shell like function. Once the undesired male approach the lady so can quickly tuck in her belly and hide under the skirt. In an emergency, there should be a small pistol or a set throwing knives hidden beneath.

[@TheBusyJane]

Pistols. Throwing knives. Ha! Hatpins! Hidden in plain sight. Turns into a sword at the drop of a hat. The idea it's a turtle shell is really appealing. Bring back crinolines for social distancing.

[@warishasaeed5164]

Considering the fact they had very accessible and sturdy pockets ....vey convenient for storing weapons unlike moderm womans clothing where u cant even fit a pack of skittles🙃

[@bcase5328]

@@warishasaeed5164 1770s panniers also make good hiding spaces.

[@alaskacosplay]

I much prefer crinolies compared to a plethora of petticoats since it doesnt tangle up around my legs and they keep the legs free for much better walking and dancing.

[@btetschner]

A+ video! Fascinating and very unique history about the fashion, very memorable!

[@Donde_Lieta]

When I went to the clubs in my early 20’s I wore a lot of layers to keep creepy guys away lol

[@MariposaLemonOfficial]

How about Victorian bonnets and hats and shoes that would be cool

[@BlackBirrdie]

Prior attire has a video of her doing normal things (walking through a gate, sitting down, peeing and even getting in a car) in a crinoline. Having seen that before this, I'm going to say this video has a lot of false 'facts'.

[@shishi6799]

True. I have seen those videos and they have proved that crinolines are actually very flexible. Besides, its an innovation from the previous horsehair petticoats and hoopskirts. People wouldn't have used these if they find wearing one too difficult to even function. The only thing I agree with is that they easily cause dresses to be lit on fire. However, if it's to be expected because of the type of fabrics they use back then.

[@hunkaitrash3271]

I srsly want the narrator to be my HISTORY professor for life.! He's so good at it! 👏👏

[@InnannasRainbow]

We know from modern day women who recreate crinolines that they did fold when a woman sat down and you could go through doorways with them. The poorer women didn't generally have crinolines. Some were also called farthingales. They apparently were not as uncomfortable as they appear. The part about being highly flammable is very true, however. horsehair fabric Crinoline, originally, a petticoat made of horsehair fabric, a popular fashion in the late 1840s that took its name from the French word crin (“horsehair”). June 1856 The artificial cage crinoline appeared in June 1856 as a welcome and more practical alternative. It was made of spring steel hoops, increasing in diameter towards the bottom, suspended on cotton tapes. This design was strong enough to support the skirts and create the desired bell-shaped effect.

[@jmcruzrivera]

Corsets were not harmful.

[@kappadarwin9476]

I thought they were.

[@autumnfall8829]

They LITERALLY killed women. Sorry

[@Carnelust]

The greatest way to maintain social distancing there is, we need to bring them back.

[@leslielulukramer8037]

Not all crinoline were huge, and definitely not 6 fee around. Men! Let's let those 1800s men still complain about crinoline while wearing 6 petticoats split legged pantalettes stockings garters a CORSET and a shift! That's not even mentioning the outer layers of clothes, you've got the actual skirt, and or full dress a possible jacket even during the hot seasons and possibly gloves. Imagine wearing all that in 90 degrees weather. Crinolines made it lighter and more breathable when wearing the large dresses that society made necessary.

[@thisismyname3328]

That and fashion was female run, the men were just salty they couldn't capitalise on the fashion trends, so decided they'd criticise it instead, attempting to abolish it.

[@zebraskin]

@@thisismyname3328 I say fight the patriarchy! I'd take my corset over a bra any day.

[@thisismyname3328]

@@zebraskin Same, I started looking into corsetry as a way to reduce back pain, caused by bras, and then realised this dress history stuff is actually really interesting. Needless to say, I’m in the process of making my own corset now

[@zebraskin]

@@thisismyname3328 I started wearing corsets (over 15 years now) because of back pain too, it's a life saver for me especially when doing long sewing project. Good luck on your corset! Are you using a ready made pattern or drafted yourself? Which style did you go for?

[@thisismyname3328]

@@zebraskin somewhat modified 1890’s corset, although I’m looking at doing a stay for the fun of it, both self drafted

[@terristroh3965]

I never realized how much work must go into these obscure but incredibly interesting topics. Thank you!

[@peepeepoopoo8692]

Obviously not a huge amount considering there is tons of misinformation in many videos.

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Great research again. Facinating part of history.

[@daryleden152]

Showing your ankle was equivalent to flashing your fanny lol 🤣😺

[@katyvdb5993]

Strictly speaking, it was bare ankles, not ankles in general, that were considered unseemly once a girl reached young adulthood. The most obvious reference I can think of is in Charlotte M Yonge's 'The Pillars of the House', when a tomboyish 15-year-old girl slips into a deep rock pool while paddling barefoot, and has to be rescued by a respectable young man who is all too clearly embarrassed by her bare ankles, though too polite to allude to the matter.

[@katyvdb5993]

Sorry, I should have specified that 'The Pillars of the House' was published in 1873.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Ahh yes, another sarcastic but entertaining and informal upload ☺️

[@mikesharon2177]

Well looks like it's time for a break at work:) I couldn't possibly wait to watch Werid History knowing a new video was uploaded:) Happy Holidays everyone please be safe!!

[@romethariyarathne8903]

I am proud that SINGER is a sri Lankan company and that its founder was a founding father of the modern garment industry.

[@Capu57]

I love your videos because you speak with such authority and with a certain level of class but then you say things like "it help emphasis the badunkadunk!!!" @10:35