Yeah it was a early 1970s V&O 40 ton, had a nice air clutch that you could jog for setup. It was our third mechanical press we had an 8 ton and 10 ton, now I don't have any. The laser requires no tooling and it can nest things to get nearly perfect yield on sheets. We made a fairly large number of dies for blanking, this one is actually one of the slower ones, most of the others ran in continuous like a machine gun.. Dangerous like one too.