what went wrong in M5 and what's next for NA

[@ian.bravo2]

Build a team around Zane. He's an asset you can't deny in NA. Let go of ego and build you BEST team possible.

[@schooler]

Let go of ego means letting go of zane. The rest of tob cannot build synergy off a washed jungler like him. 😂

[@Kiera_Official]

@@schooler frfr you can tell its the cults commenting. They don't know his ego and toxicity but the players he played with or seen him first hand.

[@warrenxer]

asset on what? you're kidding right? 😆

[@coolbean3770]

I think Zane makes it on the team if NA was allowed to play with 6 players instead (and even so, I would take Zia as the extra man). I think an entire year of NACT showed Zane to be nowhere close to the level of BP1 these days. Hell, I wouldn’t even put him ahead of Tarzan who absolutely manhandled him in NACT playoffs

[@danielCraig141]

@@coolbean3770 oh you think so? He literally had to fight the best team in NA with some random ranked players which was only few months old and still managed to beat OP once. Give zane a proper team and see what he does.

[@flashpointgaming]

Biggest problem with NA is thr politics behind the team set ups. NA doesn't get the best players on one team. If that were the case, Zane would have been on a team. NA gets a team that's ego driven - "If I don't get what I want or get to keep my squad brothers, I'm out!"

[@maumogaming5835]

How do you build synergy with someone you know is toxic? Is not an NA problem when talking about zane, its his problem. There is a lot of things happening in the background and all NA knows it, but just the players experience it.

[@Alertchase]

Zane is very toxic that why noone want to be in team with him. Even if he play good.

[@schooler]

Lol. Zane crying coz nobody wants to play with him. TOB is already made of the best players for every position. Zane is not needed. Ego? And where has that taken him now? Couldnt even beat Avalon. 🤣

[@GiroYT]

tob not even close with best players in each position, did you see Hoon use his gord to miss his ult? LMAO@@schooler

[@coolbean3770]

And who exactly would Zane replace on the NA dream team…? BP1? Did an entire year of NACT not show that Zane is nowhere near good enough these days? He was alright in M3, was pretty garbage in M4, and proved that he should probably just retire in NACT 😂

[@quixoticfiend9274]

Zane has his issues, but any team that wants to represent NA properly has to have Zane and Chicken on it. The others don't take MLBB seriously enough and don't have the hunger to win.

[@qudoos0906]

There are some things that NA needs so much 1. Zane( Zane said Na is nothing without me) which was the truth and we did see the outcome in m5 for not having zane in m5.... 2. Cooperation Changing rosters all the time will not get you anywhere. There are only a few good players in NA and all of them do recognize each other so instead of bullying making fun of each other they need to think of NA as one things and then work hard for it. Zane has pretty strong fan base so not having zane in m5 even through he is the most worthy of them all, tob received hate on a large scale 3. Tob is overconfident Now this is a little bit complicated but try to understand it The only reason tob won nact is because changing rosters all the time is not the key to win. Zane kept having issues regarding his players of their passport and stuff which caused changing in rosters. Not everything depends on the draft sometimes it's the synergy that allows you to win the game... For example Onic, the same 5 players have been in the lineup for a long while now and we all know how amazing they performed in m5. Zane never that kinda synergy in his because of constant changing in rosters (don't forget other than chickn and zane.... Yato, Tea and Iso didn't have stage experience while all the members of tob had stage experience except for Lord Mielow and we know how he performed) which is why tob won nact but again when it came to competing against the best teams in the world, tob lost in groups stage.

[@iarbaaz]

Is the whole NA Mlbb is zane this zane that?

[@qudoos0906]

@@iarbaaz yup.... He is the reason last time NA had a slot in MSC.... Because of him NA was able to achieve 3rd position in m3 and 5th in m4.... Do you still think NA doesn't need Zane?

[@hades575]

@@qudoos0906people forgot what he has done for NA so quickly or either they’re new to NA news

[@qudoos0906]

@@hades575 This world is f*cked up...... No matter how hard you push to bring the country on top, it doesn't matter and in the end your own country is the reason for your hate

[@UrFanSince]

The Main Reason NA cant perform was 1. Players aren't hungry for win 2. They Just Playing to Win against a single fellow 3. No Ego. Wise man said snake without poison and man without ego is useless 4. Player just wanna be in comfort zones and not explore more possible ideas 5. Most of the time players are only playing in response to dramas 6. Laugh it all out in the end mentality killing the need to improve 7. Did our best excuse being used to much oftenly 8. No proper IGL in team 9. Getting affected by what the community says. Keyboard warriors true aim being fulfilled 10. Man up Take Challenges. Use brain not heart.

[@Bestretribution1]

Tob is done Even with chicken 😂 they ain't going anywhere 😂😂

[@JardinJumat]

​@mr.B4D even with best retribution who cant retri in m5. Using fanny but cant carry. Ppl say many hero pool but all in swimming pool. Whats the point. Totally agree

[@Eshiiiii]

11. No Zane

[@HoobaDoobah]

In others words they suc

[@martinik19]

ID LIKE TO THINK that this is commented by mobazane , all on point

[@Alevynn]

About time! If the US wants to be competitive, the pro teams must treat it like a professional sport with a contract, support system, coach, analyst, and the ability to focus on ML 24/7. Great work Dave

[@Ir-jq5kb]

I agree. ToB just looks like an average 5 man rankers in M5. They need to have a good system with an organization backing them and of course a salary. No egos too underperforming players should be benched

[@Solkage885]

u gonna pay for that?

[@Anon_ymous8]

One additional thing they need is a minimum amount of time to play per day which is 8 hours like professional players do. It’s a full time job. You should also force them all to quit smoking. It affects their ability to perform on stage when they can’t smoke. I noticed Zane and hoons performance has both gone downhill since they started smoking.

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

if u look closely in Zane's streams he really wanted TOB to win and was even betting on them to win even when they were losing. What more can he do if he is not playing and still indirectly supporting the team which he despises and NA region and his own region fails to realise that he truly is the one who is needed to carry and bring back NA pride

[@RANMAJUANHALF-23]

NA with out Zane is disaster Zane knows how To play sea server base in his experience like M3 they got a got placing 3rd place they say BTK are the dark horse back then meanwhile Indo teams early exit in M3 😂 BTK lineup in M3 is the strongest line up in history of NA repsentative

[@BigBlackGloG]

Let’s hope NA bring another banger in msc

[@micahpeter9771]

😂

[@spartanclipjya]

Huh

[@rasthaykutta4924]

Trust in the process, all I can say. Wish the best to NA

[@SakibMLBB]

Dave ❤ you helped me get better in mlbb thanks man

[@Nyla_]

Hope you had a good time over there. Good analysis and important points. And so true about the community. We should support any NA representative. Unity has really much influence. Thanks Dave for your efforts!

[@Cinominous]

Ei.. one of the best mods! :) thank you for your service

[@Nyla_]

@@Cinominous aww thank you so much ❤️also for watching with us. Hope to see you at NACT

[@bonkedbynasusxdxd]

We wish you good luck, we will be giving our support!✨

[@verydifferentthought]

Bro, bad is bad. BP was literally choking, hoon was choking and Mielow was choking .How community supports if they are themselves playing so bad. Before tournament, not a lot of people were criticizing them but after they played the worst what you can do?

[@Eunakim23]

I think the importance of keeping the team is important. Teams always break up after losses. NACT should add this requirement that the roaster is for the whole year(spring+fall)

[@retrostyle-mq3fj]

Enjoy ur holiday bro, lookin forward to NA performance in 2024

[@nipunvashishtha]

ZANE said everything in one line: "TOB DOESN'T HAVE A TRUE LEADER" 3 minutes explanation for the same

[@DavidLoanzon]

Nor a international level jungler.

[@LegendJoe3063]

​@@DavidLoanzondont tell me fred one trick is international level jungler. 😂

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

dont tell me BESTRETRIBUTION! who landeed zzero retris and played 3 international tournaments for group stage exit was a international level jungler??? his fanny lost to BOMBA and his hero pool was lost in the swimming pool@@LegendJoe3063

[@zaynoncrack4502]

​@@LegendJoe3063yh it is when Fred was one of the most played in M5💀

[@KenTJY]

​@@zaynoncrack4502most played because current jungle meta is focused on tank jungles. It's why top jungle picks are Fred, Akai, Baxia. Because of how common they are picked, they aren't always banned. It's comfort pick for enemy, but also comfort laning for you.

[@gabrieleliashernandez7512]

What it needs to be done is stop restraining Zane from having a good team. That will help a lot NA but we all know what team is going to win all tournaments and then if Carlos doesn't improved we are screwed.

[@pulse6982]

Dave, the first third of the videos talks about a coach or analyst needed for ToB but BTK was where DEVU was in M3 without a coach or analyst. I don’t see your logic.

[@LegendJoe3063]

First of all BTGAY M3 GROUP STAGE TEAMS WERE EZ secondly BTGAY was playing against better players and teams in NA like hoon bestplayer team gosu etc which made BTGAY a good team but TOB had to play against fred one trick clown who got retri gapped left to right up and down there was no challenge watsoever for ToB hence they struggled against better teams in SEA who were playing against much better opponents in their domestic league. NO CHALLENGES = NO IMPROVEMENT.

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

What u mean u saw Zane's saber against BLCK's comfy prime lineup? The only GAY here is YOU fcking DOGand BTK dominated the tournaments in NA so TEAM GOSU was not even a challenge to BTK back then it was simply a ranked game for them. @@LegendJoe3063

[@NineLives99999]

​@@LegendJoe3063do you think BTK faced any challenges in their qualifier for M3? I sure as hell dont think so

[@klausgaming6375]

​@@NineLives99999dude they beat prime blacklist 3-2

[@NineLives99999]

@@klausgaming6375 you misunderstood my reply, i was referring to NACT for their M3 qualifier. The person above said that BTK faced better teams in NA, so their skills should be increasing coming into M3, while TOB faced clowns in NACT, so they didnt improve much coming into M5. Which i think just isnt true, BTK also steamrolled through NACT back then before M3 iirc, so i think his point is irrelevant because BTK still did better compared to TOB

[@JianiNi]

Nice beach! nice background lmao 🤭 Hope you enjoyed your time in the ph boss dad ❤️🫶🏻 you should get more credits for taking care of our NA representatives during M5. Hopefully NA will come back stronger in M6! 😊

[@SakibMLBB]

💪

[@loyjiehao]

Jianiniii

[@RANMAJUANHALF-23]

NA community is very low unlike Russia ECCA so far so many ML streamers and players in the region maybe one day moontoon will put an MPL there🤔🙄😆🤌🏻

[@saybeesh]

Yo Jian, thank you so much for modding like a pro last m5.. It was one hell of a run though. Anyways hope to see u soon in NACT :)

[@AlanJhonson-e3q]

Will you come back with mlbb regular streaming again coach?? We misss you

[@fjordan2345]

"It does show that NA has potential to be one of the top regions in the world" 1:20 - when there was absolutely no pressure on TOB and all the pressure on Homebois - this tells me nothing about our potential

[@aceua8981]

what are you saying yes there out of the tournament but they will get more memed and luagh at if they go 0-3 group stage exit

[@fjordan2345]

@aceua8981 if your bar for how good a team is if they get memed or not, I dunno what to tell you 🤣

[@aceua8981]

@@fjordan2345 u didn’t make sense at all

[@fjordan2345]

@@aceua8981 I don't judge how good a team is based on if there are memes about them or not

[@thejanitoryt8583]

Dave makes a good point , if yku want to be better at playing a game while texting your girl then that's how you train , if you want to be better at playing the game then PLAY THE GAME . Sport specific training

[@Mercy0n3arth]

Let me appreciate the resilience and devotion u give on improving MLBB Community in NA region, even I am not from NA. You actually taught me how to enjoy a moba via ur "What Pros Never Tell You" series. For my opinion, the real issue with NA region is that the well-reputed squads are banded and disbanded so easily and sometimes even the fans lose track of what squad pro players are currently playing at or that squad changed a new name or something like this. What I want to say is for example we recognise Baloy with Geek Fam at the instant or Kairi with Onic likewise. I am not saying here that pros shouldn't transfer at all, but it would be very convenient if less drama and more sportsmanship. I really hope to see NA rising in M6 because there are a lot of my idols like Mobazane and FwydChickn namely. I hope I can see them in the same squad of which you will be coaching bro.

[@arkopaul973]

All of the points are right .but u cant really control the commounity support ..as per to the current scenario sir u cant deny it if zane goes to indo or not play ,A huge of Coummunity members will stop supporting and cheering .because influence is something that makes a community large . And most importantly you need to make a leader for more confidant shotcalling ingame..cause as we rewatch the games we can clearly see the lack of shotcalling in the games..hope you see my points sir and try to make it in teams ❤ u

[@LegendJoe3063]

Dont worry mobagay ain't going anywhere especially SEA dont feed on his lies.

[@Nemesisprimee]

@@LegendJoe3063I hope you grow up and find a life :)

[@zaynoncrack4502]

​@@LegendJoe3063 all ur comments r Abt hating Zane so you're opinion is irrelevant

[@tsugum_i]

actually not getting support is normal, i assure u back in m3 most NA fans were very divided on whether to support btk or not with the gosu vs btk. The difference is that zane and carti fiend off these type of hate and because of their egos theyd work even harder to prove everyone wrong. It only changed when btk actually beat blcklist and all NA fans now felt that this team had a shot

[@kazen16]

Good luck next time! hope NA gets a better spot next time!

[@knucle7683]

Bro no disrespect to anyone but I think the hyper needs to play for tanky heroes I have only seen him playing assassin or one or two meta heroes whereas other regions hypers are trying every meta heroes even if it is boring or slow hero. Best example is kairi.

[@xuankimchee]

Thoughts on Zane prepping for INDO?

[@lisie0505]

I miss Dave talking about something serious and then about a random thing LOL. In Dave we trust!

[@dull69]

First of all, what NA need is a dedicated team sponsor to make an organization that gives player and staff salaries, or someone with money to invest in creating an actual team club. With regards to that, Mobazane would be the best choice to create this and attract an investor to build a business model as he is the most recognizable and marketable mlbb player for NA and maybe worldwide. If you have the money, you could potentially train the most cohesive team and recruit the needed players and staff for each positions

[@_kazoo.]

considering how bad the players and the region itself is, dont think anyone would even want to sponson these clowns. noone gonna spend money for nth or just for fun, not even billionaires.

[@Bless1949]

lol texting them girl during scrims 😂. TOB goated

[@multatuli1]

"New faces of NA" 👀

[@raionml]

If we get affected by mere trashtalk, maybe it is not really our region’s time yet.

[@seanc2726]

First of all, I really appreciate what dave and pika have done for NA. Thank you guys. I don't have high anticipation for NA teams in the next international tournaments. Shark is the best roamer In NA but outside of NA, he is just an average-rank player compared to other region roamer nothing special. But the problem is in the NA tournament which team that got Shark has 60-80% to win the champion in NA. There are no new impressive players in the NA. I would like to see more new players and teams in NA tournaments not only these old same faces in international tournaments. If not I hope Bestplayer1 can do better in the next international tournaments as his mentality is not that strong and he needs to improve. Gilaaa Hoon not only shows his strong performance in NA tournaments but also needs to show a lot in international tournaments. I heard that they are going to make a new team with Basic and Chicken but why Basic over Zia? There is no way Basic over Zia. The last, NA can do better in the next international tournaments.

[@johnboona4048]

Without Zane, NA is nothing.

[@schooler]

What makes you think NA is something with Zane in it? Hes already in it but still garbage. Couldnt even beat Avalon. Trash players from trash teams in trash region will always be trash. D-tier bum.

[@johnboona4048]

@@schooler Zane placed 3rd at M3 and 4th at M4 and that's without a coach. ToB on the other hand didn't even make it out of groups. And yeah, Zane lost to Avalon but you gotta take into account that Zane's team was mostly composed of ranked game players and some of the former BTK members were in TOB.

[@schooler]

@@johnboona4048 oh the fluke M3 run where almost all teams had little to no info on BTK, then got exposed in the latter part of the tournament as a one-trick pony/one-dimensional hypercarry strategy thus getting dominated and eventually eliminated? The fluke M3 run that was never replicated again in M4 where they fell to lower brackets beating underdeveloped teams but when faced with top teams, they got obliterated? The fluke M3 run which was never emulated in M5 despite having a coach & analyst, and clearly the best players in every role that NA has to offer, but still couldnt join knockoff stage coz the rest of the teams have immensly developed by having imported PH Coach/Player? Wake up to reality you 🥩🚴, your daddy zane is a one-trick pony that could neither adjust to the meta (couldnt improve his hero pool) nor adjust with his teammates (since he believes the team should revolve around him 🤡). He is mainly at fault for not being able to adjust with others and for being toxic af. If his team doesnt work well with him, then they get quickly replaced? Wtf kind of mindset is that? He wants immediate results when synergy requires time. Clearly, too much ego never works. So yeah, dont bring up that fluke M3 run and trash ego-leadership your daddy has to offer coz they are merely things of the past and clearly mean nothing in the present, and surely hold no weight in the future. 👌💯

[@ghostgurl17]

You needed coach since m3. How come newcomers have coaches but NA, 3 years in mseries, still don't have 1?

[@TonedZy]

man said "they didnt do well cuz of a lack of a coach" MAN BTK WAS 3RD IN M3 WITHOUT A COACH OR AN ANAYLST why cant people just accept the facts that NA cant progress as long as hoon is playing

[@abrqzx]

Hoon’s gameplay can be improved tho.

[@DavidLoanzon]

​@@abrqzxnot just Hoon tho. Bestplayer was terribly inconsistent with his retri and positioning. He's a great guy but not the solution if NA wants to thrive. Not now at least.

[@pratikpatil6160]

My guy m3 was 3 M-series ago. Teams then and teams now are way too different. Coaches play an important role now. Even Yeb's ahh got outdrafted in the Grand finals. Coaches play a way too important role now, since M4 and 5 that is

[@TonedZy]

@@DavidLoanzonthey weren’t inconsistent they were almost nonexistent they call him kairi of NA and brag about his heropool yet he only played guin and 2 tank heroes and his fanny got gapped by an edith 💀💀

[@TonedZy]

@@pratikpatil6160valid point but ml back then was harder to qualify rather than harder to play/compete btk faced the best of the best teams back in their prime like BL and onic ph OP/TOB been losing to regions without mpl or competition like Kazakhstan 💀💀 they arent even losing to valid teams at this point i get it coaches are good but players also need to have a good leadership with a mindset and hoon aint it.

[@ScorpioUncle-pk7br]

Thankyou for ur future team TOB promotion advertisment, but we also have brain how influncer works so i might still stick to one and only. Forget about NA i support where Zane goes the man has ego problem but he has dedication and works hard for dream team NA and those clowns betrayed and built a team to beat him but not internationally, it was embarassing, hoon mentioned more assassin games which is directed to Zane like he did played will in m5 and some clowns believed Hoon is a saint,but early group stage exit, overall its and embarassment. Anyway gl with NA future team but unless they hire good players aside from tob there is a chance i should say coz more people are improving rapidly each season

[@fjordan2345]

This last comment (about supporting the NA team even if you don't like them) is obviously directed at Zane, I don't think you can say he didn't support TOB though. He was critical yes, but that isn't the same as not supporting them. It seemed from what I saw at least like he was still wanting them to win - I'm really just going off what he said on the broadcasts though (maybe he did something else on stream?). If this was directed at the fan base, I don't think this makes sense. If in champions league your team loses (lets say Man U loses its spot Chelsea), I don't think its reasonable to expect the fans of the losing team to switch support for the other team from the same region - those fans could just as easily go cheer for Real Madrid or some other team they like players on, not their normal rivalry team. Its not "Team USA" that is playing, its TOB - they are representing USA yes, but it isn't the same thing. If we want to as a region select an all-star team (based on community vote, or have some type of elected board to select players) to play together instead of having a league, I can see this sentiment, but not as things stand now.

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

completely agree about Zane supporting TOB. In his streams we saw that he was betting on them to win even when they were losing

[@blacksharkgaming3943]

Im a Filipino fan and routing for NA team .I know you can do it Dave and your team.

[@LizezilanDiaML]

I'm pretty sure M6 will be a great moment for NA. Thank YOU for making everything possible, Boss. ❤You know the vibe ❤

[@Giorgos_Oikonomou89]

lol NA sucks don’t expect much from Ohio sisters squad!!

[@Kiera_Official]

@@Giorgos_Oikonomou89 That's your opinion. This video is for NA and not your region. I don't know how you get affected by it but must've really hurt you a lot to see NA in this position. Also, don't target one of our best mod here in NA, you don't have that right.

[@junewil08dael85]

bestplayer1 needs to step up.. when in comes to tournament like the M series.. actually zane is more better than him when it comes to pressure and in game discipline.. i think the team needs a good mage too that is more better than hoon, and exp laner FWYDchikn is good.. zia on gold is also good.. and lastly, a good coach

[@Snailblazermrkl]

hope na can do great with kda midlaner

[@MobileLegends-vu7hc]

Devu and Fireflux overtakes NA, hopefully u guys can fix the issue. From m3, 3rd place to 16th place on m5. Dont know what happen cos they are usually undefeated on NACT. Something went wrong there.

[@williesg]

I think the difference is shot caller which they lack, bestplayer1 and zane is two different type of jungle, one is more aggressive and one is more calm. Hoon is like a ticking bomb, out of sudden he might do something funny out of nowhere. As for mid , so far really have no choice. Shark definitely the only choice in roam for na , chicken and mielow , chicken is more experience and mature compare mielow, skill wise both prove themselves at some point. Gold lane , Zia is more aggressive in team fight than basic, but basic always try to perfect his bennyqt style which till today not yet master.

[@BULz.]

TOB is good, ngl. they won nact after all. but bp1 doesnt have the confidence or go aggro like zane. both junglers are asset of NA. hope we can make it to top 4 in M6!

[@schizophrenic-dev]

What went wrong? Hoon being in the team. That guy is washed af, he should just go back to Korea to do the military enlistment thing. Memes aside and to be completely honest, Mielow contributed to the team more than Hoon. That's what went wrong.

[@Goodvibes4me]

Its not negative comments we are talking about facts we all know that wansnt the best team of NA

[@Safff848]

we need that M3 glory back

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

for that we need Zane really simple yet NA cant realise. Its funny honestly at this point

[@Bacteria...961]

Its over now bro Zane is Done with NA ... But its better for Zane to move to Indo and play in their environment coz Indo is more competitive than NA.. ME as a mobazane fan would love to see him joining Indo team ..

[@Safff848]

@@shrinidhikulkarni1334 facts. One bad performance and they think he's not good anymore, when he made a team full of rookies and did decent. Look at how TOB embarrassed NA every time they played on the world stage

[@Safff848]

@@Bacteria...961 yeah, I give up on NA as well. Just waiting for Zane to make the haters cry again by joining an Indo team and doing good there

[@shrinidhikulkarni1334]

@@Bacteria...961 yaa me too

[@vanpatrick]

get ZANE to play. he is the player who's the most hungry to win and has capability to lead the team. His playstyle is around indo jungler level. LET HIM PLAY BRO. if you do, NA will have an MLBB community again - so many fans back him up

[@dante246]

Lovely scenery with the one and only assassin Dave Dave Dave 😊😊

[@Skullhunter30]

Gatekeeping Zane out of M series only hurts ToB. I for one am done following NA mlbb without Zane. Less interest in NA mlbb hurts everyone involved. Well done ToB / whatever they ended up being called.

[@airiserizawa1066]

3:42 You're right. TOB probably just laughs their mistakes off. You need a coach that will chew them off when they make stupid mistakes. This is what happens when your friends just become your yes-men, your mistakes will never be recognized and punished. Also, bestplayer1 needs to recognize that these games are proper pro matches and get a lot of discipline in his body. Fanny going 1v1 against an EXP Edith is such an amateur mistake

[@fjordan2345]

I chalk that 1v1 with Edith to not being able to handle the pressure

[@balabakau]

Congrats n comeback stronger

[@ChristianAquino]

Try the m3 line up one more time

[@hedgehog2565]

curly guy from NA once said a joke : "ITS CALLED FEAR " , , , , , , indo is getting stronger . . . . . . .

[@coryholmes8903]

I don’t play ml and haven’t kept up with the scene in a while. Now it make sense I was curious when I saw Zane streaming m5 and not there. Outside looking in from NA myself just comeotive in other games now. NA never puts best players they have on same team. Zane, hoon, ect idk who all are best atm. And they all need to commit to being able to play together and go together cause it always at least in past had conflicts schedule or whatever. Having 1-2 good players with a few slightly above average players isn’t gonna cut it. It is what it is. Idk who the Ohio brothers are I didn’t watch but it doesn’t sound like they did much of anything. 1st step get all best players on same page. Ego aside who cares about taking your friends with you. Real athletes don’t like everyone on there team. But they get the job done.

[@JoaxGumama]

dave are u never gonna come back to making content/stream?

[@ForeignFamousTV]

I might have to now. sheeesh.

[@asmopurrhaps]

No offense but hoon was lackluster in m5, na really does need a good and controlling mage

[@DavidLoanzon]

And a jungler that can retri under pressure. I'm sorry but Bestplayer ain't it. No offense to the guy but he's constantly out of position.

[@marktuason418]

Money talks. The moment Moonton actually begins to drive funding to NA, in its events, marketing, and everything else under the sun, it will trickle down to eventually the competitiveness and the quality of play from teams from NA. But if I'm being honest, Moonton's only been giving the bare minimum. Sure, their current market is still Asia (namely Southeast Asia) but I really want Moonton to capture the demographic of other regions and make the MLBB community more global than it already is.

[@fjordan2345]

this is a pipe dream at this point

[@cephas3090]

Bro the MPL draft was kinda weird can you pls explain us the draft

[@mugen2304]

7:12 this is what NA needs most they're just fighting for thier own personal interests,fame whatever. ToB or any other team going to World championships should remember that they're representing the whole North America Mlbb community on that stage. Welp, guess ToB didn't have the hunger for championship,for becoming world champions like ApBren ph or Onic Id.

[@alkain3600]

All I hear is bs. We will hire coach, we will find sponsors. All sponsors are care about is viewership. Zane have most. And you successfully made him leave NA. I will love to see your future failures , feeling sad for Chicken

[@NoGamble.NoFuture.]

If trash talk bothers you get off the internet. TOB can avoid trash talk when they get out of groups

[@danielCraig141]

Keeping all the things aside,Hoon is the main reason for the downfall of NA ever since m4, he manipulated the other players except chicken,and made them go against/hate zane for how he is. Yes he might be a bit arrogant with a huge ego but that’s what made NA shine in M3. Hoon made zane look like a bad guy. His soft smily leadership won’t get NA far at all. You might not agree with it but it’s coming from a viewers point.

[@zetsucipher5217]

its okay lets see how this current “stars” NA team destroy themselvesand continue being the laughing stock, they dont deserve Zane

[@quixoticfiend9274]

Hoon is basically a talented ranked player, he doesn't have what it takes to compete professionally. He's always more concerned with his K/D/A than teamwork.

[@Stoiski]

Creating a team also requires having a good bond in real life. And Zane is just too cocky and always shit talks other players. You all can say all you want but you won’t want Zane in your team if you had the choice

[@monsterhunterplayer2391]

ASSDAVEs post game reviews are always on point!! as much as mobacels want you to believe otherwise, TOBs performance at M5 was the BEST we have EVER seen from NA before and it's obvious they have the potential to play better NAMLBB isn't divided, it's just a vocal minority online that most probably aren't even NA themselves. NAMLBB is stronger than ever and the increasing level of play at NACT every year proves it. AVL BTFO BTK against all odds showing more and more NAMLBB players are leveling up to compete for the top 2-3 spots. mobazzzane did everything right and NA indicted him!!mobacels stay crying

[@MarvinR2]

I always hear Zane should be on the NA Team Rep, and this is madness. Dont people understand that to have the Rep Team selected, they need to win the NA Tourney? Its not like 'Just Build a Dream Team' kind of thing. If Zane's Team loses before reaching M-Series Tourney it means he lost fair and square, the Winning Team in NA will be the Rep even if Zane is considered the better player.

[@martinik19]

Im sick and tired of PH being he champion for the last 4 consecutive years. I believe it is high time they should be dethroned but no one comes close , and yeah im from the PH.

[@JoaxGumama]

dave make a video analysis about how Onic lost

[@rrr5936]

THIS IS WHY NA WILL NEVER GROW!! We got snake like Hoon.

[@ecilatnecniv]

everything's wrong... NA is not ripe enough to compete to SEA region

[@ppoank2768]

“Ew guys!” Cracks me everytime 😂

[@dm_blinkonce3231]

I still believe NA is stronger with Zane. However, it would've been better if the roster doesn't constantly change, I would compare it to Bren when the roster changed, it wasn't good, but they kept up with it and now they kept winning tournaments.

[@Martykoi]

Because Zane, Chicken, Zia, and Shark is not on same team!

[@DavidLoanzon]

Good to hear that there will be changes, also shocking to hear that "punishments need to be in place" even the example given sounds terrible for that to be happening for a team on the international scene. I have to agree with @urfansince. This iteration of the team doesn't have the same passion or drive. IMO Love him or hate him but the reason Zane is so polarizing is also because of how passionate he is. NA will go nowhere without the hunger and the drive. Steel doesn't strengthen without fire and pressure. Bring Zane back but put a system in place for critique and criticism.

[@MielowML]

FIRST COMMENT FOR MAO

[@jimmylalhriatpuia4104]

Whats up GOAT?

[@CHOPHY1XXX]

Noob

[@jimmylalhriatpuia4104]

@@CHOPHY1XXX why disrespect he goat,he invented exp lane 💀💀💀

[@AllMindanaoAquascapingCup]

Come back stronger NA!!!

[@medelcapati5468]

they are not comitted.. nothing to lose mentality

[@mlbbwreckedgaming]

I think TOB should have took the high road and disregard zanes comments. Being the bigger person(s) could have been the turning point for them as players on and off the field. Yea it's all fun and games when we talk smack at one another but that really drew their focus on not being better. Rather, being just like zane with petty things. Hope TOB sees this and takes that into consideration. Obviously they're good but when u don't hone in to your game and listen to viewers complain or mention zanes little comments or beliefs is irrelevant. You know your good. Just play the game and show off NA like real pros. It's all a learning process. I love MLBB

[@PikaDiff]

SECOND COMMENT FOR MAO

[@nishantsubba944]

One may lie but if many people are saying then give it a thought. If u dont have confidence then u should quit

[@Mercy0n3arth]

My belief in humanity is shredded after reading these negative toxic comments 100% irrelevant to what Dave is actually saying.

[@nishantsubba944]

Lol funny how some saying zane is toxic when most dont even know basic movement. Best move zane doing is going indo. These people would call kairi toxic if he was in zane's place.

[@baka69454]

No zane no win ....was a gosu fan but changed to btk due to their mindset and hunger for win ...used to hate btk but fall in love due to their mindset and professionalism... Alws supported gosu to win NA tournament which never happened due to their lack of professionalism and competition and eager to win and lead....been following NA from last 4-5 years ...from gen hoon fan to zane carti fan ...but all these years all i hv seen is hoon is average not even above average... There are better mage than him in NA but people are just not ready to open their eyes .. Even zia played Better and had a huge impact in m3 ..but if you ask me about hoon all i can see he only maintains kda , no outplay he only chokes in crucial time ...hoon and bestplayer both are only talk ... they are thinking by replacing exp with chkn(as he is very smart and talented)they will be able to secure a good place.. mark my words they will never ...they need a leader ... and stop all those excuses like being in pressure etc etc ...hoon shark zia already have experience and bestplayer already have played international tournament in msc iesf etc there is no way you are still talking about experience...you are just blind and mobazane hater ...they played for the first time in m3 and brought glory to NA ,continued in m4 but in m5 they brought shame ... M3 zane shark chkn constant M4 zane shark chkn constant MSC hoon bestplayer shark constant M5 hoon bestplayer shark constant If you are still not able to see why this is not working then NA audience what can i even say... To all the fans around the globe ..

[@baka69454]

And there should be a extra player like carti to be maybe analyst...he might be washed but he is still valuable...

[@CactusJakk-]

The problem is the light is too bright for some of the TOBs, lack of Alpha mentality.

[@FraudChickn]

na should be in wild card

[@_kaito_-]

only if zane was not betrayed, imagine what that team would have been after 2-4 tourney experience together

[@Beware-s7e]

Gg

[@dramaticreaper]

Can you include captions next time pls

[@Skullhunter30]

Zane leaving NA is the nail in the coffin for NA MLBB esports. Who is going to watch NACT now? Sounds real fun having the new super team stomp all over A77 or whoever steps up. No rivalry no uncertainy. Sure the new sponsors will be thrilled with minimal NACT etc views.

[@koreannidalee15]

Biggest mistake in NA are their shit drafts and discipline, get me as a coach i will change that shit, TOB if u reading this just hire me i got you

[@ThisIsSparta300]

NA NEEDS ZANE PERIOD. That’s the issue

[@Mr-White8888]

I saw Dave , I clicked

[@gTzy17]

I do hope both parties will be humble enough and unite to form a legitimate team. Wasted opportunities imo. Best of luck Dave and NA

[@nishanth23]

Meanwhile indian players :

[@lebau6825]

We're not taking the best players in my opinion

[@eraipanda1928]

Why not make general a coach?😅😅

[@palerskie156]

NA IS PROMISING FORGET ABOUT EGO

[@HapyFriendsShoppe]

You speak about family in NA but you guys literally let ZANE go. Hoon was probably the worst mage in M5😅

[@vengencechishi1785]

Good luck NA for M6