What Went Wrong In San Jose For Erik Karlsson

[@JesterRace139]

What went wrong in San Jose? Doug Wilson. He made a lot of great moves over the years but making Pavelski walk so he could get bent over by the Karlsson contract was the beginning of the end.

[@Retr-vc4wn]

Even if Pavs stayed the team was always doomed to fail

[@MrBayAreaRealEstate]

Exactly. Karlsson's contract was the beginning of the downslide.

[@johnedwards5575]

And now Doug Wilson works for the Penguins… I was totally against Pavelski not getting a fair offer. After DW swung and missed on Jonathan Tavares, well… there you go. I’ll miss that 2019 playoff run.

[@JHockeyFan]

@@MrBayAreaRealEstateTerrible drafting was the beginning of the end. Mirco Mueller and Gabryel Boudreau aren’t going to lengthen a contention window

[@tabby842]

@@Retr-vc4wn Depending on what point of failure you mean, I may agree. I think they could've bit the bullet on Jones much much sooner. Instead of trading away our futures for Ek65 and Kane after losing out on Tavares. I get that Wilson nor anybody couldn't have known that Pavs was going to keep going strong into his old age, and time was closing for Jumbo, but looking back it's funny that Wilson's patience in who to buyout, and urgency in who to trade for were completely mismatched. Had the sentiments been swapped, I wonder what opportunities would've been open to us.

[@Rada6ast]

I played against Erik many times during our youth. He played in his home town club Vetlanda and I remember in ONE game as a defender, he scored 15(!) Goals. I asked him after that game if he was satisfied with that number. He answered "No, because I missed about 30 shots" 😂

[@raphaelhudon]

wow! amazing story, how old was he?

[@Rada6ast]

@@raphaelhudon We were 14 or 15 at the time. We played away in that game and lost 26-6.... 15(!) Goals by Erik and I knew that this guy was going to be a big player!

[@adamexcellie4272]

As a former player in hc dalen i also vitnessed him score at least 10 at us in a game. None of Our goalies wanted to play the third period 😂

[@liq8898]

Still appreciate he played for us

[@ClawieArmy]

Sharks is a cool team.

[@generalzod2497]

Erik earned my respect big time last year with his 100 point season. No Defenseman has done that since my man Brian Leetch did it over 30 years ago. Only a handful of Defenseman have ever gotten 100 points. Cheers.

[@stillfree1133]

Yeah Damn shame he was on one of The worst teams at the time

[@JIMBOCOMMANDO]

Cant wait for that went wrong in Pittsburgh in 4 years from now

[@koringoto3196]

The question should be, “what’s wrong in Pittsburgh”? San Jose is no longer your issue but your current team is - the Pittsburgh Penguins.

[@jfkst1]

He is part of the problem. He hasn't been good enough.

[@jamaldee2355]

@@jfkst1exactly!!!

[@MrVisde]

Sharks fan here. It was fun watching EK65 last year. Wish he would’ve stayed and competed. I think the Sharks could’ve turned it around faster with Karlsson still on the team. There’s some talented young players close to joining the team (Smith, Mukhamadullin, Musty, Gushchin, Haltunnen)…hopefully he gets another run at the Cup in Pittsburgh. Not looking good so far though…

[@TheVadim30]

You're not crazy about hockey at all. Karlsson was the Sharks’ problem, he’s terrible defensively, he was many times more trouble than good (he was given the opportunity to score points last season to the detriment of the team, only to then be successfully sold and it still wasn’t a very successful trade) because he had to part with good players and the team had to be forced into perestroika for many years.

[@MrVisde]

@@TheVadim30 nah, Karlsson is an elite player. His offensive upside is insane and his defense is acceptable. I think the biggest knock against Karlsson is that he isn’t a leader. When he came to SJ he was a passenger. When the SJ core left the team, he didn’t step up as a team leader. When younger prospects started joining the team he looked for the exits.

[@Lanarkwow]

I still appreciate EK65's time with the Sens. I bought a rookie card of his this summer, It was nice though seeing the Sens defeat the Pens and EK65 tonight in OT!

[@animaspreston8158]

Pens already too old as a team , the collapse after crosby and malkin retire will be hard to overcome

[@Mike1__]

The collapse has already begun.

[@thatsright4194]

They're already collapsed.

[@NESADDICT]

@@thatsright4194Crosby seems to be playing incredible. I mean maybe he falls off as the season goes on but I wouldn’t say he has fallen off yet.

[@MrVisde]

The challenge will be later this season when PIT is out of the playoff race: do you keep Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Karlsson when they can still play and waste a year on a bad team? Or trade them for assets while their stock is still high? San Jose held onto Marleau and Thornton for too long when they were past their prime. The idea of them finishing their careers with the Sharks was sweet, but they still ended up playing for other teams after the Sharks.

[@lusarima]

Jarry has been pretty good this year, just a lil inconsistent @@mikes7446

[@thylacine519]

Title should be what has gone wrong in San Jose and Pittsburgh

[@NobuhikuObayashi]

Not worried, we believe in you Erik!

[@bigcountryranch]

Thank you for pick #14

[@MrBayAreaRealEstate]

The best day in San Jose over the past 5 years, was this summer when Grier traded him to Pittsburgh. No argument about it. EK is a selfish player. Winning the Norris on a team in the bottom of league, means nothing. He demanded a ridiculous contract from Doug Wilson to sign in San Jose. DW felt he had no choice, given everything he gave up to acquire EK. EK used that to his advantage. EK didn't deserve to become the highest paid Sharks in history, after 1st season, at the time 4th highest in league. @6:30 EK says here "The million dollar question" - There's no question as to why the Sharks fell off. $12m went to him. Financially, the team was handcuffed and had to let players go. It all started with Pavelski. Pavs is still playing at a high level. It was absurd to let the captain walk, after a 40 goal season and deep playoff run. Sharks never needed EK. Sharks needed depth on the bottom 6 forwards and strong 5th/6th defensemen. DW never figured out the missing pieces with our consistent season dominance. DW always signed aging vets and fringe NHLers to fill the slots on bottom end of lineup. Along with bad lengthy contracts, such as Vlasic's - getting paid $7m annually and is a healthy scratch on the worst team in the league. Timo Meier was traded last season, because Sharks couldn't afford him, EK's contract ate 15% of the Sharks cap. I said it when EK was traded to Pittsburgh, Pens fans will soon be cursing his name and realize he is a phony. Looks like some of the fan base already sees that. Hands down, the worst deal/player to come through the Sharks organization, when talking about detrimental to the franchise. Sharks went from cup contenders for many years, to the bottom of the league as soon as Karlsson received that undeserving contract. No argument.

[@navy4735]

well said...very well said...and EK did nothing...absurd player.

[@CH-rs3sp]

You are the best!🙌

[@EmmaBostrom-jh7df]

Eric Karlsson, kommer ihåg när du bara var en liten grabb och spelade i Frölunda. Nu är du en stor man med mycket på agendan! All lycka till

[@kraandersson]

Miss him in Sharks🦈

[@wonderfly4786]

I love Nick Brlansky at the beginning

[@sempcast]

We’ll be ready for your return to SJS in 4 years - Sharks will be Cup contenders again! See ya after Pittsburgh, Karl!

[@cgbc61]

Why is she laughing while saying “the pens crushed one of your best chances at going to a cup final”

[@raymondhu8895]

If we traded Burns and kept Pavs back in 2020, I think we could still be in playoff contention.

[@Cuhhsin]

Things are not rlly gonna be that much better in pittsburgh

[@miroslavconka5556]

I exactly new that. In Pittsburgh is just average. Erik needs to feel he is leader in cabine. Like in Ottawa and san jose after leaving Burns thorton and others.

[@popeyesailor9571]

It is all about the culture not as much the players but good culture attracks good players. Concord Blue Devils have won 21 world championships because of their great staff and culture. Sharks should take their team members to watch how they practice Bobby Knight was impressed with their drum corps.

[@wizll]

this 3 month old video pops up in my feed and I thought it was for what went wrong in Pitts. 😂

[@HipsHyde]

Before watching the video. San Jose should have never traded for Karlsson when they were so close to a retool/rebuild already. Instead they crippled their cap with that albatross deal and traded away prospects and picks.

[@MrVisde]

He was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. He played on one leg during that first playoff run. The huge contract didn’t help, but lots of mistakes were made contributing to the Sharks situation: signing Kane to a big contract, letting Pavelski walk, signing Vlasic to a massive contract, LaBanc’s payday, Martin Jones turning into a pumpkin, firing DeBoer (offensive minded coach) and hiring Boughner… …can’t pin the Sharks downfall on EK65

[@HipsHyde]

@@MrVisde It's not really on EK65. Like you said the GM's moves/contracts and aging core. Plus the whole Kane episode. Karlsson's contract on top that was big problem afterwards. Honestly I didn't even remember that they had decent run with Karlsson which kind supports the trade. But yeah lot of things went south there afterwards

[@flodareltih9825]

Not much better in Pittsburgh either

[@DanA-bt7dr]

Remember when he was on the Sens :')

[@Razerx379]

Next > what went wrong in Pittsburgh? 😂

[@Bum_Hip]

The only person who thought it was a good move was Dubas. SJ must have giggled their ass off.

[@MrBayAreaRealEstate]

We definitely did!

[@jtwk3400]

bro the penguins cleared up cape space in the trade and got the reigning Norris trophy winner. it's a good move regardless of their success this year

[@Bum_Hip]

@@jtwk3400 it’s cool that we disagree. I thought Pittsburgh should have blown it up and not resigned Malkin and Latang. They would have a worse team now, but a ship load of assets to rebuild faster. Now, we’re looking at possibly 10 years of pain in Pitt.

[@ScaryRevenant]

The same thing that went wrong when he arrived in Pittsburgh 🎤 drop

[@claya.bishop5356]

Not looking forward to the inevitable "what went wrong in Pittsburgh" video

[@robertgagnfors8675]

I'd say nothing went wrong, he put up great numbers as D. Nhl is much like Nfl, you dont trade players anymore, you trade money to build, karlsson was a semi rent..

[@ryanadams2277]

He won the Norris! It's more a story of what went wrong with everyone else.

[@MrBayAreaRealEstate]

Individual awards in hockey doesn't mean anything when the team is bottom of the league.

[@ClawieArmy]

@@MrBayAreaRealEstateOf course it does since it means legendary teams like Pittsburgh might pick you up.

[@philt77]

Wrong. They wanted hom to win Hart trophy at 1500points? Wast 100p enough

[@bobhenry6159]

The Letang, Malkin and Karlsson contracts will make the next few years very tough on Pens fans. Letang will be 41 before they can free up that $6 mil, Malkin ties up $6 mil until he's 40, and this guy ties up $11.5 mil, $2.8 mil more than Crosby. Unreal. Karlsson has averaged just 63 games per year over his career, and he's -92 as a defenseman. So overrated, IMO.

[@goenzoy712]

He is not overrated But of course in cap era it is really difficult to justify 3 or 4 big contract s on a single team

[@JohnHibbert-zz8ww]

Kyle dubas doing Kyle dubas things 🤠🤣 Glad he got the crap outta Toronto 😁

[@johnj8069]

@@goenzoy712 Yea I don't think anybody overrates him anymore. Everybody in hockey knows what he can do and he definitely isn't worth $11M, but the contract is the contract.. they cannot change it. EK is worth maybe $6-$7M/year. He is great offensively but so bad defensively...

[@shawn.champagne]

Erik "you know" Karlsson

[@chriscollins7604]

he is 1 dimensional, bad trade but i understand why they tried it.

[@wayne387]

The guy costed the entire core of the team. Lazy over paid glad he’s gone

[@LordofFunk11]

Uh, he's Erik Karlsson

[@southtext3400]

The dude can't play defense, pens will find out the hard way 😂

[@fearlessleader8623]

What went wrong with pittsburgh last night 7-0 loss oooof

[@fenderbass57]

Good news? Hardly, a terrible trade for the Penguins. They’re now strapped with this defenseless boob, owing him a ton of money. He was the last thing they needed, but because he had the “Norris trophy” title attached, everybody went goo goo! They need to rename that trophy or give out a different one for the actual defensive side of things. This guy couldn’t play defense if it hit him right in the face.

[@plainbagel9192]

This entire interview is moot and missing the bigger picture no one seems to want to talk about in Pittsburgh...the team is old and past it's zenith

[@rickus7843]

His contract was the downfall of the sharks. He filled a role that we already had Burns for and couldn't afford to hold on to core players or fill in other roles.

[@xdarkale]

"No, I mean uhh.."

[@TimLeeson-v8o]

O ok

[@brandonsitch6264]

Trade him back?

[@jackmakackov7077]

He got exposed as not being able to take a hit. Sharks should have never signed him he would have never worked in the west. He is not cut out for big boy hockey. Plus he is only good on bad teams. He is the most overrated athlete in team sports history.

[@99Stams]

I agree with every word you said. I would add that EK65, for the first time in his career, was the best dman in his own team. The 100 points is cool, the -26 is more telling

[@imthebeatplug_8319]

More than half of those were empty netters. Get your facts straight bud.​@@99Stams

[@JustaMountainbiker]

@@99Stams+/- is a team stat, clueless 🤡 Put any d man of your choice on last years San Jose, make him play 26 min every night. Everyone would be - players. No one else could have scored 100pts on that team.

[@JephthahTait]

We suck for picking up Eric. Penguins don’t need you.

[@number1mostbiascapsfan66]

Old men pens

[@jamaldee2355]

It’s because he’s a trash defender simple next question loll

[@gcnd9031]

I don't trust this guy at all.

[@alofritzmaul3818]

😂😂😂this is comedy

[@ryanholmes7297]

Without watching the video, let me guess... he was a one dimensional player incapable of carring a team without decent talent or coaching?

[@DoctorRevers]

Pittsburgh is a much nicer place than San Jose. ;) He has a history with Pittsburgh. Yeah. Not to mention the scum Cooke almost completely destroying the career of a dominant player at the time.

[@DPops_44]

10:53 The Penguins are NOT the oldest team in the NHL, last time I checked. But okay…

[@edited1325]

They’re still one of the oldest teams in the nhl not a winning recipe in todays fast game

[@toke7342]

Well they are...

[@sakalaath]

Oldest players, not oldest franchise.

[@napjohn88]

no personality, boring interview. Can see he only cares about himself. Bust trade

[@MbisonBalrog]

Covid happened. Threw off 2 seasons for whole world

[@MrVisde]

Yeah, and Karlsson wasn’t on the same page as Boughner during those years either. His explosion of offense came when Quinn took over and let him play like a gunslinger.

[@yusufr.7889]

lol this guy is so overrated. get ready to make this video again for Pittsburgh