What Will Valorant Look Like In The Future?!

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Thinking Man's Valorant

Thinking Man's Valorant

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@Smxks
@Smxks 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like with the eventual agent pick/ban phase antistratting againt certain comps will become much more common. Just imagine for example prx banning viper on breeze and just mop up everyone with the breach + neon comp
@Julian-rd7xy
@Julian-rd7xy 2 жыл бұрын
Äh ü
@Octochiken
@Octochiken 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there should be agent banning, atleast not in the main tourneys. You should be able to build a strategy with wichever agents you want. Agent banning removes the strategy of designing the best comp.
@matts.6789
@matts.6789 2 жыл бұрын
i think agent banning will actually punish teams like prx when they play like no viper breeze comp. Teams aren't conditioned for them and it creates a big advantage for the weird comp team if they pull it off right.
@matts.6789
@matts.6789 2 жыл бұрын
also this isn't r6 siege... i don't want bans cause it means that teams doesn't play to their highest potential.
@ouwle6618
@ouwle6618 2 жыл бұрын
@@matts.6789 I think the simple fact that Optic won VCT even when Loud banned 2 of their best maps in the finals defeat this argument. You could even say that map banning is even more unfair since the map pool is much smaller then the agent pool. Bans are ofc devastating for teams with clear cut strats and comps. But as a whole they are great for 2 reasons, balance and variation. Bans make it very clear on a PRO level what is balanced or not, which is great transparancy for Riot to develope a better experience ingame. They are also benefitial for the variation in setups to not make the game stale or boring. It gives more of an incentive to counter pick, learn new agents and just be more flexible and creative. Even though league of legends champion pool is alot larger then valorants, it still reminds me of times when pros pick "weird" or off-meta champis to specifically target players/teams they are up against.
@iury472
@iury472 2 жыл бұрын
I get the point with the multilayer strategys but there is something to consider. The problem with TL is that they give up mid. So they are just blind the hole game at that point and gambit realizing that use mid controls to do whatever they want
@Valorant_Simplified
@Valorant_Simplified 2 жыл бұрын
they don't just "give up" mid, they thought it was the same fast a execute which happened previously. As such any player in top mid would rotate to halls or onto a site. If you just stayed there, then your team would be dying on A alone if it was not a fake. Even if it is a fake, you'll be having three players peek you at once. Getting one is the best you could do.
@mistogun6668
@mistogun6668 2 жыл бұрын
The multilayer strategy worked, that’s why liquid conceded mid, they didn’t mindlessly give it up or not have it addressed prior to the attack plan going into action. Players repositioned because the strat worked, gambit conditioned liquid into repositioning of that early drone off shop and double smoke mid because that’s what they had done and won with the round prior.
@mistogun6668
@mistogun6668 2 жыл бұрын
off*
@Umakuhatindis
@Umakuhatindis 2 жыл бұрын
KayO and Fade might be the counter for no duelist heavy util meta comps.
@adnanerochdi6982
@adnanerochdi6982 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be super cool if you can link the match in the description? I think that would also help your channel grow if the algorithm looks at backlinks here on KZbin as well. Great content, thank you!
@museical72
@museical72 2 жыл бұрын
This is truly an amazing video. I think I have learnt the most about competitive valorant from this one video
@leonschander7126
@leonschander7126 2 жыл бұрын
NOT THINKING MAN'S VALORANT DOING AN OUTRO SHEEEESH Love your vids ❤️
@JeanCSM
@JeanCSM 2 жыл бұрын
You have to cover TL vs BBL today! So many crazy plays and tactics.
@KyroEmeraldblade
@KyroEmeraldblade 2 жыл бұрын
great vid man rlly interesting insights
@Daniel-cg7ji
@Daniel-cg7ji 2 жыл бұрын
Is it me or anybody else feeling like Gambit are under performing ever since they changed their name
@Masa6x
@Masa6x 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but there is a good reason for that. They live in the regions suffering from the ukraine thing, which can easily affect their mental state and focus. Maybe its an excuse but I mean, if their whole org representation had to be changed and stuff, a lot of stuff was shook up and they havent played well since
@sirknightj3094
@sirknightj3094 2 жыл бұрын
@@Masa6x unless theyve said that I think its unfair to assume that after being m3c for a month, changing org or what's happening in Ukraine is the sole reason they haven't been performing. While I do think it's completely possible, we shouldn't guess.
@Masa6x
@Masa6x 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirknightj3094 I def wouldn't say it's the sole reason, but a contributing factor perhaps, hope they are back on form soon and qualify for masters
@DKP_CR
@DKP_CR 2 жыл бұрын
@@Masa6x Russian suffering from Ukraine thing? XDDD n
@Masa6x
@Masa6x 2 жыл бұрын
@@DKP_CR yes, cause of the restrictions put on Russia by Western powers, the players don't support the war but still feeling the impacts
@reminisce771
@reminisce771 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Will you do a VOD Analysis for Philippine Challengers maybe a Team Secret match vs APH or Bren? Just like what you did with Singapore/Malaysia challengers; Love from the Philippines!!
@kayotic8531
@kayotic8531 2 жыл бұрын
philippine teams aren’t that good and are hellla mid
@emotionalavocado2336
@emotionalavocado2336 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayotic8531 don't try to trigger people,it's incredibly pathetic
@boom-jr8vi
@boom-jr8vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayotic8531 your parents marriage is more kayotic than this comment.
@kayotic8531
@kayotic8531 2 жыл бұрын
@@boom-jr8vi max cause i’m speaking facts not a single one made it into champions
@romeomarrero3204
@romeomarrero3204 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought of multi layered strays like this exactly then bam u make video boi wth
@tengkuarsya3895
@tengkuarsya3895 2 жыл бұрын
vid suggestion: make a video on TL vs BBL on split, need ur expertise on the astra-omen pick for TL
@owendanerosco1871
@owendanerosco1871 2 жыл бұрын
Another video, another day! Thanks Man!
@ZechsGaming
@ZechsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I like these type of content youre the best
@won0moji485
@won0moji485 2 жыл бұрын
Love all your content keep it up
@royce3786
@royce3786 2 жыл бұрын
bro im not used to looking at u on fullscreen lmao
@auireming8905
@auireming8905 2 жыл бұрын
I look far and I see, the multi layering thing would eventually grow into progressive layers and counters as well... Sort of like, we run strat A and if it works out we gonna run A.2 strat kinda thing... And more agent specific setup/utility counters, like the viper wall on breeze, we been seeing many times now. If any team building a strat in breeze, they should consider a counter/answer for that viper wall, like straight up ballsy stack mid nest, A retake kinda deal. Personally, would like to see more 'reactive' counter callout from all the team leaders, make it so interesting like watching anime. Can also protrude the role of strat crafting.
@sosa2263
@sosa2263 2 жыл бұрын
as far as i can see, idw valorant to be like overwatch where its just so many things going on and a clusterfuck of utils
@sabinesabine4211
@sabinesabine4211 2 жыл бұрын
How about analyzing the team liquid vs BBL game? Its pretty interesting i think
@divijchawla4735
@divijchawla4735 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, cld u plz analyse prx vs moon on breeze because they picked yoru and its always good to see yoru stonks rising📈📈
@fatdeez2487
@fatdeez2487 2 жыл бұрын
real ones remember when he reviewed this game in his video on chronicle haha
@inspectorseb2887
@inspectorseb2887 2 жыл бұрын
never been this quick haha
@Dyleniz
@Dyleniz 2 жыл бұрын
i just want to see more yoru in progames
@Mateusz-li7co
@Mateusz-li7co 2 жыл бұрын
i would love game analyze why someone uses vandal instead of phantom or anything like that and why mosty pros use vandal now instead of phantom like previouslly
@amzilabdessamad790
@amzilabdessamad790 2 жыл бұрын
can u do a video to explain the franshise next year ?
@VitorSantos-mr7wk
@VitorSantos-mr7wk 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do some loud? They are so good
@ityph00n.71
@ityph00n.71 2 жыл бұрын
1. fake strats - do a strat for one round, then after a few rounds, make it look like you're doing it again - have multiple strats that start of the same way but that are very different from each other 2. better timing of utility usage - eg. have the sova dart land just as you are starting the execute - while the dart is still in the air, start droning so you can clear both back and front site at the same time 3. different econimic strategies - example 1; instead of buying full util on ATTACK pistol round, buy only what is necessary - if you win, next round you can have multiple phandals - example 2, simping: on pistol rounds drop your teammates so they can be even more powerful 4. playing weird / cringe / extreme comps while fully understanding them and playing their strengths - eg. triple sentinels on icebox - get the spike down and just defend
@scytpx1294
@scytpx1294 2 жыл бұрын
?
@genericusername-qq1du
@genericusername-qq1du 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered making a Discord server for your audience?
@ryanlee6985
@ryanlee6985 2 жыл бұрын
Never been this fast 10minz
@kag3mav639
@kag3mav639 2 жыл бұрын
This is what Yoru does in ranked but the entire team is Yoru
@orangebgorangev6467
@orangebgorangev6467 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt know ed sheeran loves valorant
@gerardomacias8130
@gerardomacias8130 2 жыл бұрын
2:15😭
@dombuilder1197
@dombuilder1197 2 жыл бұрын
I think teams will not just all buy a vandal or phantom every round they can but instead use other weapon comps that helps them win a lot of rounds but is cheaper or more versataille
@DemureTaffy
@DemureTaffy 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or he looks like theoddonesout
@kieieiee9343
@kieieiee9343 2 жыл бұрын
2:16 huh?
@emotionalavocado2336
@emotionalavocado2336 2 жыл бұрын
Actually its called the funneling strat not simping 🤓
@makkii1
@makkii1 2 жыл бұрын
me and my friends call it raid bossing
@BigManax
@BigManax 2 жыл бұрын
Valorant players learning that they can fake strategies: 🤯🤯🤯
@fultish.
@fultish. 2 жыл бұрын
I somehow Spent 315h on Valorant this week
@fultish.
@fultish. 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm still shit
@Daniel-cg7ji
@Daniel-cg7ji 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody asked + ratio
@buuu29
@buuu29 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-cg7ji how depressed are you?
@jaimea.3771
@jaimea.3771 2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t want valorant to become a game where util is being thrown left and right all the time. You watch someone play overwatch and it’s hard to make out what is going on. Valorant is counter strike inspired and I think the primary focus should be gunplay. Just look at how phoenix has been power creeped to oblivion. Phoenix was a good choice in the early game but he’s useless nowadays. The astra meta was probably the most boring time to play the game. I think riot needs to chill out a bit with some of this util
@ouwle6618
@ouwle6618 2 жыл бұрын
Well i think they have done good so far. They have generally resorted to nerfing/reworking characters rather then buffing. However imo the thing that makes me play Valorant > csgo IS the abilities and utility. I would love to see team try crazy comps like duelist-less or even sentinel-less. Like super defence ande utility or super aggro and space invasion. Overwatch failed in 2 regards imo, map design and abilities > mechanics balance. Map design is very fun too play on, but horrendous for a e-sport viewer experience. They also made s game where primary function and dmg dealing is the abilities, compared to valorant which is about 50% gunplay 50% abilities or slightly higher/lower depending on PRO play vs ranked (60/40 | 40/60). Csgo however is probably 75/80% gunplay and 25/20% utility so its absolutely the easiest game to watch, but imo not superior in how it feels to play compared to both.
@kappaross6016
@kappaross6016 2 жыл бұрын
@@ouwle6618 i love valorant i play it everyday just about im hover immo 1 and 2 right now i waited so long for this game to come out because i played so much cs before but felt like valve abandoned the game. But i will say as far as feels go the shopting in csgo is so much more crisp and clean valorant feels alot more slow abd sluggish
@ouwle6618
@ouwle6618 2 жыл бұрын
@@kappaross6016 Hmm maybe difference between tickrate aswell since i have never played faceit or similar, but valorant felt MUCH nicer to me. Only reached LEM in ranked then apex legends came out and i was gone haha. But i tried csgo ranked a few weekks ago and i wanted to puke. It does feel more crispy, but valorant feels more responsive if you get what i mean. I have never encountered aiming at someones head with an op when they are standing still and missing. Done plenty of those in csgo (on 64 tick however). They where marketing the game as responsive, and I think that sluggish heavy feeling fits that. Gonna try 128 tick csgo sometime in the future and compare, you got me interested 😁
@カモノハシo_o
@カモノハシo_o 2 жыл бұрын
!!!
@notrick6916
@notrick6916 2 жыл бұрын
early woah
@Umakuhatindis
@Umakuhatindis 2 жыл бұрын
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