What You DIDN’T KNOW About The Tonfa

[@AscendantStoic]

I don't frankly see the Magnet Spike appearing in the main series, but a modified version of the Tonfas could definitely make it and has a niche to fill (fast blunt weapon), I hope we see it in the next Monster Hunter after Sunbreak.

[@Nukesnipe]

my two wishes for mh6 are tonfas and underwater combat returning tbh

[@krakenattackin7617]

@@Nukesnipe ridiculously based

[@lagua5363]

Tonfas are okay are they are, just reduce the high frames that's all, they aren't OP at all

[@olsenfernandes3634]

DS and IG would be even more obsolete, KEKW

[@krakenattackin7617]

@@olsenfernandes3634 how are DS obsolete? They are consistently high tier in each game

[@maxmcleod6817]

I always loved the idea of straight up punching monsters to death. I'd love to see a more grounded version of the Tonfas introduced in the future, however unlikely that may be..!

[@joshmay2944]

The fact that some MHF devs have been incorporated into the MH “portable” team (quotations because the separation between the MH dev teams seems to be less than in the past) supports the idea that the Frontier weapons could be making a return in future games. We’ve already started to see the effects of this shift with the return of Espinas and i think it seems likely we will see more of these monsters sprinkled into roster updates moving forward. I feel like the Frontier team had some first class devs on it, and although Frontier was shut down, Capcom is wise enough not to let good talent go to waste. So they are bringing these folks onto the main MH dev teams and with them come all the expertise of working with these Frontier monsters and weapons. From a cost efficiency standpoint, by bringing Frontier monsters into the game, they’re able to develop a monster for which a good chunk of the work has already been done, in terms of combat & visual design, animation and rigging, etc. And although I’m sure it still takes a ton of work updating those monsters for a more modern engine, they can skip the initial design phases and dive right into actually making the thing. Edit: wow, i didn’t mean to type that much! Thanks for coming to my ted talk :)

[@BiggerRiftan]

Storm Style tonfas are my absolute favorite and if we get any iteration of a frontier weapon in mainline, I hope they bring that exact play style over with the weapon. Great video.

[@CeraCymmetry]

They’re SO fun, thanks for watching!

[@randomnpc445]

The storm style gameplay looks super cool. Not at all what I think of when I think of tonfas, but definitely the gameplay I'd go for if I were to ever get my hands on them.

[@DanielisAwesome52]

If I had the choice I'd want a Boomerang weapon in Monster Hunter, but now that I've seen a good breakdown of what the Tonfa actually were I wouldn't be upset if they followed Espinas out of Frontier Purgatory

[@seb24789]

There's old concept art for a boomerang weapon type (and an early version of Palamutes) from gen 4 i think. I'd say it's possible.

[@DanielisAwesome52]

@@seb24789 I've wanted giant boomerangs since I started in Tri, I've seen that concept art and I hold onto the hope they get implemented at some point.

[@Purpletrident]

I've been wanting tonfas to be added into the main series for a long time now. I really hope they bring it, and maybe a heavily nerfed magnet spikes in MH6, or whenever. I feel it's about time for new weapons.

[@rowiegoze3196]

When the insect glaive and the dual blades decided to have a baby.

[@WFoong98]

More or less, it and magnet spike were there to compensate not having IG or CB in Frontier.

[@OrgBrent]

Magnet spike was there for people to rush through the game by having an insanely broken weapon. It shouldn't exist, yet it does.​@@WFoong98

[@PatrolOfStroll]

Storm style looks kinda like hammer had a baby with switch axe, I think I would've been very into that style if I'd played the game!

[@luckypeanut9943]

I'd say more like long shelling gunlance instead of swaxe but you right

[@wakipai3D]

You still can

[@luckypeanut9943]

Monks will always be my go to style in any combat rpg, the idea of just dodging monsters to throw a nasty uppercut sounds like a dream if they ever brought them back

[@luckyhydra7597]

'They seemed spammy' Meanwhile with world, everything has started feeling spammy because of how many hits most monsters can usually take by now

[@galodsyayax8912]

Man, i remember i had to finish chapter 5 Diva quest to unlock tonfa, and that time i still grinding for my hidden gems.

[@CeraCymmetry]

2 Lao’s in a row…

[@flameboss555]

it at the end of chapter 8 until you unlock tonfa but mann that time was hard ,been stuck with anorupatisu for a while

[@Just_a_rathalos151]

I like the tonfas, and it's sad that will never return...or it will?

[@cacabussa2391]

Espinas being added opens quite a bunch of possibilities, maybe they will start to add more frontier monsters and someday release one of frontier weapons

[@exile_kzk]

Likely with magnet spike But def extremely nerf and rework

[@jacobgraemoor5778]

would be cool to see a new weapon in sunbreak, them being ninja weapons and all.

[@cacabussa2391]

@@jacobgraemoor5778 unless they are hiding it really well to prevent it from leaking I don't think that's happening

[@jacobgraemoor5778]

@@cacabussa2391 eh, they hid the goose really well in world after all.

[@Roze_aye]

I gotta say. i never really looked at mhfron much. i have seen the Tonfas before and do want them to come back. But I did always think the whole airborne thing looked rather silly... even as an insect glaive enjoyer But MAAAAAAAN the way the grounded version of Tonfas play looks sick! as is the jump off the monster dive kick. Kinda reminds me of aerial style DB

[@paz8723]

the next weapon, if there ever is one, has to be Tonfa or Magnet Spike. Theyre already as complex, if not more complex than the weapons are in Rise. Much easier to take from Frontier than to make an entirely new weapon

[@deathdiamond15]

I think they would both fit with rise's playstyle and the use of wirebugs very well too. They seem like a lot of fun to use

[@F3N01]

I'm still disappointed and kind of surprised they didn't use the setting of Rise as a reason to introduce something like the chain blades from Dauntless, or try to introduce the throwing weapon concept they had ages ago. They'd fit perfectly with the ninja village theme Rise has.

[@itsyaboiguzma]

Definitely tonfa.. Let's forget Magnet Spikes existed.... shhhhh let it remain 6 feet under

[@lobstergod8993]

Tonfas sure but the magnet spike just seems too far out there to be in anything but frontier but maybe they could tone it down

[@joshmay2944]

@@F3N01 I’ve always thought a kusarigama would make an excellent MH weapon. If you’ve ever played Nioh it’s a blast to play in that game, and it’s definitely an inspiration for the chain blades you mentioned. The difference is a kusarigama will often have a blade on one end and a blunt metal weight or spiked ball on the other end. So it could potentially do slashing or blunt damage depending on the mode you’re in, and in exchange for that flexibility you would have high animation commitments, even though the attacks would be spinning and doing multiple hits. Tonfas are also a lot of fun in the Nioh games, hell every weapon is fun in those games, it’s the only combat system I’ve played that rivals the holy grail that is MH combat.

[@automato436]

I think they could rework Tonfa into MonHunWilds, make it so it works like MonHunRiseBreak having to choose 3 of the styles into 2 baked into the weapon.

[@s.o.s.pnaruto9523]

This is my number one weapon request for the new game. We have 14 weapons for too long. It's time for a new one. 😅 I really want this weapon lol

[@ZeroRulz0]

I would love if they brought these back A blunt IG

[@dianslabbert504]

How were the ranged weapons and specifically the bow like in Frontier? Through the years I watched a lot of Japanese KZbinrs play Frontier and the only weapons I would ever see them use were Great Sword, Long Sword, Dual Blades, SnS, Lance, Switch Axe F, Tonfas and Magnet Spike. There is almost no footage of the other weapons being used on KZbin. Though I guess I can maybe try and search on Niconico. Hunting Horn is also something I am curious about since I have never seen a single second of gameplay of it in Frontier

[@Cha0s13erry]

Idk about the bowguns. But if you look up MonHun Fox, shes a bow main in frontier. She has also taught me how bow worked in frontier

[@leebaguetteo9607]

why dont you come and try em out for yourself there's a lot of fun to be had in frontier

[@lanzhu.zhong_]

@@leebaguetteo9607 how do you play frontier tho i wanna know

[@lag4375]

I only ever saw bowgun used in specific setup like 4 bowgun stunlock or some shit

[@TheElino]

@@lanzhu.zhong_ It's VERY complicated but there's lots of guides so just look one up

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I hope that if Tonfa ever come back, they retain their ground dodge. It just looks so nice when I watch gameplay. 0:57 Wait till they see Magnet Spike

[@ecbrd8478]

My favourite thing about Frontier is how as you progress in the ranks you go from playing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite to playing Metal Gear Rising except it's all the part at the beginning where he cuts the metal gear in half- and you have the option of doing it either as the strongest being in the Monster Hunter universe, or as a hammer main.

[@FlowMH]

I really hope this gets brought back for Wilds with a redesign. So far the mainline weapons cover everything but the basic "hands-free" combat, the closest it ever got indeed looks to be Tonfa. I only discovered this weapon's existence just now, but previously whenever I thought of a brawler-styled weapon, I'd imagine something very similar. It just makes sense!

[@JStranger6292]

I really wish this weapon was in the main series of games. I would have so much fun with this.

[@WillowStarshower]

With the private servers out I’ve been playing frontier for the past month or so and I’ve gotta say that tonfa are really fun to use. They have become my main weapon for their ease of use and truckload of Iframes.

[@Taisuru]

I love the look of these two styles, if Tonfa ever got added to the mainline games I'd definitely want it to be a blend of these mechanically.

[@LuluME1]

Thank you for this video Cera. I really enjoy hearing about Frontier ! I only heard a bit about the extreme style but it seems the other ones aren't shabby either. 😄 Tonfas seem fun and show how innovative Frontier was, and it wasn't afraid to experiment. I would definitely try them if there ever was a way to play Frontier again. 😊

[@majinkevinci]

I wish we get the tonfas in main games (tuned a bit down of course) would be fun having another blunt alternative weapon to shame Hammer users with. They could have a mix of both ground based styles so they don't get too ridiculous. If the concept of skill changes is mantained from Rise they could just make you choose the triangle attack to be the EX charged stun hits or the EX multihit evade/spin.

[@wickedweavile4612]

I look forward to trying these weapons out once I hit G Rank in Frontier

[@lonewolfnergiganos4000]

I'm new to your channel, and it's awesome, keep up the good work 💙😁

[@Dekoso00]

BEen playing Frontier on PS and just got HR6....there is a mission introducing the tonfas, wich, was the main reason for me to start playing the game.......and as soon as I tested the tonfas I just loved the play style.....Wish capcom could bring them back

[@fede113]

Frontier videos are always the best :)

[@CeraCymmetry]

Thank you for watching! (:

[@sandmountainsam9287]

Tonfas look like they would work REALLY well with wirebugs

[@namelessiam7792]

Aight there's always the rule of Z monsters being "add more spikes", but that's literally what's up with this plesioth at the start of the video LOL, it's literally just plesioth with a bunch of spikes on his face. Good video btw, always cool to hear more about the black sheep of monster hunter games

[@TheBlackMagic91]

I think it's the Zenith version. They amp up a specific body part on for different monsters, and for plesioth, it's his face.

[@namelessiam7792]

@@TheBlackMagic91 yeah that's uh what I said

[@Andyjoe522]

If tonfas were to make it into the main series, I hope it's closer to how you describe storm style. Maybe one or two airial options, but mostly focused on that boxing style.

[@Jemski_T]

Tonfa was Capcom's way of making a Manny Pacquiao simulator.

[@Devious777]

If Tonfas ever came to mainline I think they would just use the earth style moveset, without the ex gauge and without the running while unsheathed, that would make it pretty balanced imo

[@Queggletank]

I need them fast hitting blunt weapons

[@Ridgan.]

I'm LOVING the boxing playstyle and hoping to be able to play it one day

[@jacobgraemoor5778]

there was a medium bowgun at one point too, in this tale of forgotten weapons.

[@ManectricReturns]

I completely forgot about medium bowgun

[@jacobgraemoor5778]

@@ManectricReturns yeah, it was kinda redundant though. More powerful than a lightbow gun, but no shield so it was faster to maneuver than a heavy, Then of course there was the Accel Axe which was just a gas powered greatsword.

[@yeastling7199]

Storm style is exactly what I've been begging for in Monster Hunter, let me put up my dukes and just pile bunker their faces in.

[@raiga5-6-42]

Issue is we have insect glaive mobility and dual blades ferocious relentless strikes compressed into a weapon. With MHR revamped the mobility with wirebug and previously with MHW clutch claw. They will have to rework tonfas from scratch in order to make the weapon less overpowered and well... Balanced.

[@TheElino]

*Heaven Style* *Is grounded* 🗿🗿🗿 You can't be serious

[@CeraCymmetry]

And get this, the base style that used all the aerial attacks? …It’s called EARTH. 🗿

[@TheElino]

@@CeraCymmetry *WHAT* That has to be intentional

[@CeraCymmetry]

@@TheElino a mild amount of trolling from the Frontier devs

[@TheElino]

@@CeraCymmetry I can see that yes😅

[@imsirnootnoot]

I wish they bring the tonfas to the main line series.

[@gurra981]

i wish capcom could add some sort of fist weapons like the tonfa or like some sort of rocket fist gauntlet

[@Psych0boost]

I remember seeing those charged punches occasionally in Frontier vids and wondered why people didn't use them often. Are there any other less popular or suboptimal playstyles that are still interesting to use?

[@lexo632]

So, quick question: could we get a list of the songs used in this video?

[@Mrmasterranter]

I don't even know Tonfa in general so yeah this was all new to me

[@zeromailss]

I always want to play frontier but I can't cuz of various reason, I hope we get Tonfa as a new weapon in MH6 whenever that is Before MHW I play MHO using fan translation, it was a lot of fun despite the jank

[@Nintaboy]

God I really want a boxing style weapon in monster hunter, all about jabs and dodging. Either that or duel wielding bowguns like a cowboy.

[@steponjello]

How would you feel about the Frontier Weapons being added to the main Series in future installments?

[@jamesk2325]

you're obviously not a prophet or a capcom employee so I'm not holding your word as fact or anything, but I still wonder, as someone who played it: what do you think the odds are the tonfa or something else punch-style-y comes to the main series? punching monsters is SO GOOD in concept - I play SNS with the akuma skin in rise, and the new lance skill that lets you shield bash into attacks like punching-at-a-punch is just great, but I want REAL punch.

[@RogueCrocodile]

I wish they’d come back

[@OniBlinker]

Mhrise insect glaive be like

[@Raven3557]

Do you Happen to know if private servers are a decent way to play frontier?

[@lukasluna5319]

what's your favorite weaponconcept?

[@ShatteredDimension220]

Should I spam the comments every video until you make one about Raviente huh Cera?

[@azuresea7183]

man I really want tonfa in the mainline mh series.🤔🤨🧐

[@WH00ZAH]

I might be new but how you play Monster Hunter Frontier in English? is that a private server? or what? i kinda want that.....

[@lazydelibird]

You have two options: Join a server (Rain server and Mezelounge being two popular options) or set one up yourself. There is some english in there but only enough so you can just barely use the UI.

[@TheDragonshunter]

We need another MH MMO

[@AutistiCat2406]

rise DB are kinda close to tonfa, funny aerial spam gameplay that looks braindead as hell but has some nuance they also have the EX evade, insane s and it can attack

[@NyxKnightfall]

I want the tonfas back so bad duel swords dont scratch my fist weapon love maybe if we petition theyd come home

[@Cha0s13erry]

FINALLY LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!

[@BobThePenguin.]

Cera: titles video based on the other playstyles and mentions how he wants those to be the focus of the video Also Cera: spends more than half the vodeo talking about not that

[@CeraCymmetry]

Hahahaha true, but would you have understood how they worked as well if I didn’t? ;)

[@thetruth3068]

I really want Tonfa to come back, but if it does, I want it to be toned down. The air attack dash move is way too anime. I still like the concept of fast hitting blunt weapons though.

[@kevo300]

I would agree if dual blades didnt take the throne for being too anime

[@SuperHansburger93]

To be fair, the tonfas were so broken that Rise's LS is fair and balanced in comparison...

[@codycaldwell5042]

I feel like they could make the Tonfas work in a mainline game. There could be an insect inside every tonfa that generates pressure with every hit in a monster, and that pressure could be jetted to allow for airborne attacks.

[@CaptainCFalcon]

*_CAPCOM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LET ME PUNCH THE MONSTERS!!!_*

[@ManectricReturns]

Play Sword and Shield in Rise, your main combo is bashing the monster in the face with the shield

[@CaptainCFalcon]

@@ManectricReturns bruh that's NOT enough. I'm talking about a MOVESET. Not a singular combo.

[@CaptainCFalcon]

@@ManectricReturns Also, I do play SnS. _Cause it's the closest I can get right now. T-T_

[@sunbreh9075]

God i love Frontier so much. I wish we could see something like the Tonfas or Magnet Spikes in future titles

[@RatTimes12]

I'm just waiting on Capcom to give me fist weapons. I've wanted them since Tri. Let me punch a dinosaur in the face already

[@g1ll4ng]

Wtf tonfa could flies??

[@mekhijones1244]

I want tonfas so bad 🤤 I've been wantingg to have a fist fight with rajang forever or with deviljhoe or any high teir monster it would be badass to dexk them in the shnoz

[@ThatRandomDude204]

So Storm Style essentialy gives you a pair of Mini Dragonators? Along with the Kittynator that the Palico uses that's a lot of long hard penetrating rods

[@zenraloc]

How could you reference sonic in regards to tonfa instead of fucking Talim from Soul Calibur

[@Jblank1016]

So theres a weapon that basically involves punching the hell out of a monster, and it basically had a fighting game style meter to use on EX Moves? I hope to god that they being these things back. They seem super cool and not even out of this world insane like magnet spike where they wouldn't fit in normal MH games.

[@BananaHoardX]

I don't have any problem with the tonfas, one more weapon cool. What I have a problem with is almost all of the recorded frontier fights use them. It's like watching Rise clips, everyone using Long sword. So yeah, it's the player base that angers me, not the weapon.

[@Deaga]

second view gang!

[@soko45]

what is it with the avatars always wearing this cringy anime outfit shit

[@scaratmouche]

Ok joshua calm down

[@seancelestino7699]

A lot of people do it and I personally find it weird but just enjoy the vid bro

[@seamuschaos]

Gee I wonder... Maybe because the game was made for a mainly Japanese audience? By Japanese devs? The country that made anime? It's like you're walking into a bar and getting fed up with the amount of people drinking.

[@FusionComet]

Japanese clothing... in a Japanese game... is an anime outfit?