I think you just woke up and thought (old gamesnob voice): "Heyyy you know what i'm just gonna make a video about energy shield. Should I prepare this...naaahhh. It's just some mathematical stuff, I'll wing it." Five minutes later. "Where is my dwarf star?" First ring you hovered over, lol. Coffee any one?
@OldSchoolGameSnob3 жыл бұрын
hehhhh. solid.
@sonnco3 жыл бұрын
2:15. How come you say 14% remaining amount goes to the resistance calculation which a 76% energy shield? Did you mean 24%?
@Wadmd3 жыл бұрын
I recommend having Warpspear as a swap +3 energy shield, then all your plus skills is great to have if you're a cold/fire sorc without point invest to have a health protection buff
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
or better yet, memory runeword in a base which already had +3 to ES and maybe +3 to sorc skills
@mikeincarnation14843 жыл бұрын
Also, the synergy is affected by hard skill points into telekinesis only. Having + skills items does nothing.
@BLOODKINGbro3 жыл бұрын
That's all synergies though
@stofsk3 жыл бұрын
@@BLOODKINGbro No. Druid summoner skills synergise each other through soft points. They're about the only exception tho.
@anovik21863 жыл бұрын
The problem with the energy shield is one and simple: there are not enough skill points to prodece any good damage. You need to invest all 20 pts in Telekenisis because only those rough pts count for an effective ratio. You need to put also 10-20 pts in ES itself since you want at least 75% abrorb. So you spend already 35-45 pts and the rest of available skill pts is enough only for one type of damage. Now after Firewall was nerfed down to its legacy you couldn't even rely on the budget build in this direction. But you need 20 warmth anyway. Frosen orb without ice bolt synergy and just minimum in cold mastery is 27 more. Totally 27+35+20=72. And now you have probably 20-28 pts for Firewall and Fire mastery combined. Two days ago it was still viable but now after patch 2.3 you'll end up with a very tanky sorc with almost no damage. Firewall nerf at the same time does appear as an ES build nerf.
@WhatIfTheories3 жыл бұрын
Remembering old builds and a few vids on KZbin. I'd say Melee Sorc is the ONLY good dmg option. Whether it's going Zeal with Dream and other melee options. Spell wise you are right. However I'd say that if you are a Tank build wish ES midaswell go Melee and have fun. You can get some high dmg but will be heavy on gear.
@zebedeesummers44132 жыл бұрын
I thought the main problem was when you run out of mana, cannot tp out and lost most of your damage reduction all at once.
@WhatIfTheories2 жыл бұрын
@@zebedeesummers4413 Well the goal is to tank and not TP out but stay there and melee/face tank. Keep in mind I'd say if making a Tanky ES Sorc the safe bet is having other protection too. High block, defense, damage reduction. Keep in mind what you block or misses you doesn't go to ES making ES stronger. A mana burn mob has to hit you to drain your mana. Then with really high mana and regen you are never out of mana even if completely drained to zero because it regenerates a couple 100 per sec. More than enough to TP if you wish or reset ES if a nasty pack. They should fix the mana burn bug though so we can play a pure ES build in the future.
@PentadConsulting3 жыл бұрын
Formulas, I need formulas and/or graphs! I'm not good at visualizing spoken speech but can instantly grok math equations.
@ThunderKat2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, I will try this hybrid build across my adventure and eventually find a good balance around it since I don't believe in going too low on HP is viable (some go as low as 200hp)
@veganTongan3 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention poison resistance is vital as an ES main.. as poison damage bypasses ES completely as well as DoT spells. run a couple Nihlathak runs and you’ll understand this weakness lol..
@attractivegd95313 жыл бұрын
What are the other DoT spells?
@shayneaugustine97913 жыл бұрын
I found a 77 Mana ring with 75% reduced poison length... Haven't found a better ring yet
@veganTongan3 жыл бұрын
@@attractivegd9531 the harpy demons and Baal are the only ones that i’ve noticed to cast it.. you will know it when you are hit with it lol
@sengalang3 жыл бұрын
Never or hardly ever have an issue with that ever since I maxed out poison resist and changed to a prayer merc.
@shayneaugustine97913 жыл бұрын
@@sengalang would you please explain that to hell nil snakes. It's deadly down there.
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
If you get ES up to 90%, who cares about fixed damage reduction or block? A 700 dmg hit becomes 70, which a potion will handle easily. Basically the more percent that the energy shield takes, the less that anything that reduces damage matters, and the more that only a bigger mana pool matters. If you focused on poison resist and length reduction and ignored resists, you'd only take double damage in hell of tiny bit that comes through, low enough that potions would handle it fine, especially since you'll probably be rocking rejuvs for your mana pool anyway. So you may be better off sticking +mana jewels in your sockets rather than -dmg
@shayneaugustine97913 жыл бұрын
Being an Enchantress, with fire wall and energy shield just makes having Mana a non issue.
@therandomsection93203 жыл бұрын
"Where's Dwarf Star"......It's the first Ring you were looking at haha! Great video overall! :)
@christianrasmussen38892 жыл бұрын
and no mention about damaged taken goes to mana. is it possible to make a undieing sorc that way?
@BenFilley2 жыл бұрын
**slaps shaftstop** you can fit so much dr in this baby
@jarredcarlson247911 ай бұрын
My es cta staff says I can get es without telekinesis. I wouldn’t recommend it, but it’s possible.
@CityBelowtheSea3 жыл бұрын
So all of this is well and good, but I'd wish you'd address the elephant in the room. The mana burn bug. It would've been nice to see what happens in this worst case scenario.
@pikkagtr19423 жыл бұрын
PANIC and POT lol I've tried it and didnt like it max vita with good resist is easier to play and could care less about Mana Burn
@mikeincarnation14843 жыл бұрын
Worst case scenario, two shot killed. One for the mana burn and a split second heart attack before you’re dead.
@sengalang3 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like you guys have not done a dedicated FULL ES sorc. Mana burn IS still a slight issue, but I find that when im teleing ( I.E to throne room) and get mana burned, my regeneration is so fast that I just continue to tele past them instead of staying in place and hearing the dreaded "not enough mana" issue and dying. I dont use any pots and my mana regen goes back up to full before I even find the next exit. My take is either you dont use ES at all or actually have enough points in both ES and Telekinesis to be able to do something. I agree that having 1 point or just a few points is a complete waste and will actually hurt you more than a benefit. Just my honest opinion. I feel like ive tried many ES builds and kinda mastered it at this point.
@lefgia3 жыл бұрын
I spent all my stats on energy , use shako , many small charms with life, skillers with life and call to arms and got 75 all ress. Even if i get mana burned i still have 950 life so its pretty safe
@mikeincarnation14843 жыл бұрын
@@lefgia he’s asking questions because he’s clearly new to D2. He probably won’t get a shako for another few weeks let alone be fortunate enough to get a few skillers without life. Telling him he’ll be okay with stat/skill point setup without the necessary gear to make it viable is setting him up for failure
@Tsuntsu863 жыл бұрын
Hmm 76 + 14 is only 90 😅
@sonnco3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I was thinking the same thing!
@attractivegd95313 жыл бұрын
I read that Dmg reduc % should not be used if you want to use Dmg taken goes to mana as it will drastically increase the amount needed to counter the damages and generate mana.
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
no i think that's damage goes to mana
@HollowitzTV2 жыл бұрын
"Dwarf Star, where'd it go?!" ::Mouse on Dwarf Star:: haha
@NeroRedfield2 жыл бұрын
So even with max ES and max telekinesis - ES with low mana pool is useless, right?
@qinghai13 жыл бұрын
What about mana burn? I play d2r every day and get mana burned constantly.
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
basically the only option there is try to keep your distance, ensure your regen is high as possible (merc with insight pole), and have rejuvs instead of mana pots
@YesThisIsJosh3 жыл бұрын
5:24 where is dwarf star??
@Reelphresh3 жыл бұрын
Nice to know the mechanics of it but how does damage taken goes to mana work. Obviously there must be a cap to it. Where at in the equation does it plug into?
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
dmg goes to mana dumps whatever final health damage you take after ES into your mana pool just before ES takes mana out of the mana pool, so it does nothing for mana burn or massive hits, and the more ES% you have, the less it helps because your final health damage is lower so its effect is lower.
@darkportents98353 жыл бұрын
How does energy shield sorc deal with Mana burn? just stay far away and shoot? can it survive it?
@shayneaugustine97913 жыл бұрын
Mana burn+ extra fast is a harrowing creature to fight
@markxv22673 жыл бұрын
ES is useless because of the MB bug
@Mpwerr3 жыл бұрын
You need to balance your health and mana make sure u got good health pool dont go full mana build also cta or barb bo is kinda must
@sengalang3 жыл бұрын
Mana burn is indeed a weakness. I find that when I get mana burned, because regeneration is so quick and I have high mana, my energy shield does not completely go away and I start regenerating back at an alarmingly quick rate. The monster usually dies before it becomes any issue. Rarely ever die to it anymore once you get used to it and have a quick enough reaction. Of course, not standing there and taking the hits helps.
@energy80253 жыл бұрын
Not well. It's an awful skill. Just put 1 point into Frozen Armor and you'll be fine.
@andrewmadrigal36523 жыл бұрын
Dose tal’s belt stack with energy shield? “37% damage taken goes to mana”
@SirSilicon3 жыл бұрын
% Damage goes to mana is producing mana out of incoming damage. I got this wrong for so many years.
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
Percent dmg goes to mana dumps that percent of whatever final health damage you take after ES into your mana pool just before ES takes mana out of the mana pool, so it does nothing for mana burn or massive hits, and the more ES% you have, the less impact you get from % dmg goes to mana
@cjdig862 жыл бұрын
Using energy shield with a hard 20 points into telekinesis, on a level 97 sorc. Grinding for level 98. I’ve been doing solo chaos runs inside of an 8 player Baal game to try to speed up the process. Energy shield will do nothing but get you killed in acts 4 and 5 hell. Particularly lord de seis when his pack is speed enchanted and has the high damage aura. If you don’t have at least 2500 life, they just 1 hit you before you can even react. I died twice today to that same exact pack. Having life under 2000 and using energy shield will only get you killed when soloing certain areas in hell. You need roughly 2600+ life as a sorc to have any shot at all. Energy shield can be great in norm, nm, and even acts 1 and 2 in hell… but once you’re doing hell chaos or Baal runs, es will get you killed every single time. Particularly by the high damage physical enchanted mobs, and undead stygain dolls. You’re better off going 2600+ life and pure vitality. It’s more predictable, and you’ll never fall victim to mana burn.
@LittleRadicalThinker3 жыл бұрын
Before resistance…. It sounds sucks, but if it’s useful, then I guess after resistance will be too powerful.
@BLOODKINGbro3 жыл бұрын
Op in Diablo? Is that not what we build for...
@LittleRadicalThinker3 жыл бұрын
@@BLOODKINGbro If it's before resistance, and it's already good, then after resistance, it will be godly.
@capnzero063 жыл бұрын
Interesting, maybe I need to do more testing but the last time I tried with uncapped fire resist my energy shield melted instantly to chaos sanctuary Infector. With fire res capped, It actually lasted a bit. Reguardless it's probably good to always have capped res an if you plan to be in melee range for whatever reason, probably some damage reduction if possible.
@shayneaugustine97913 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kind of agree with you, I think the resist applies before the shield
@theredscourge3 жыл бұрын
maybe it applies first if it's negative, in which case all you'd need is 0 all res in hell. but honestly, -100 res just means 2x magic dmg vs 0
@jasonreviews3 жыл бұрын
i think gamesnop would of been easier and catchier handle.
@quake3quake33 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your tanki hardcore sorc playthrough.
@BLOODKINGbro3 жыл бұрын
It always surprises me that there's hidden synergies that only if you play the game you would know about
@drake569963 жыл бұрын
I love your vids - but here you seems totally lost
@ghim13323 жыл бұрын
24* not 14 :D
@coopstain17283 жыл бұрын
WOW OLD SCHOOL GAME SNOB LOOK AT THAT SHARED STASH OF LOW RUNES... MAN I THOUGHT I WOULD BE SEEING ALL ISTS/VEXS/LO/JAH/BER IN THERE!!! PSH..... COME ON MAN, YOU NEED TO SHOW US YOUR REAL RUNE STACK IN SOME VIDEO PLEASE. ;) haha Maybe just a glimpse.
@tmangra2 жыл бұрын
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@energy80253 жыл бұрын
ES is awful. Go with 1 point into Frozen Armor and thank me later.