What You Need to Work in Film

[@flickcine]

Thanks for watching, everyone! Hope you're all doing well. What are your "things you wish they taught you about the industry at film school"?

[@KTHKUHNKK]

I do relaxed. F the hurry hurry hurry crap. KK Motion Pictures Last promo On KZbin Keith Kuhn

[@trmproductions9659]

I have only started getting into filming videos for about a month now. I absolutely love it. My new passion. Thanks for all your great info and tips. :)

[@Crypto_Dingos]

Film school was a waste of my money. Haha. You tube is the new film school 😄.

[@KTHKUHNKK]

@@Crypto_Dingos You're absolutely right. Even though her video was on KZbin. Film school could be a waste of time. Once you learn the basics, then you have your own style. Like any creative producer. Keith Kuhn KK Motion Pictures Last promo Check it out on KZbin. Keith Kuhn

[@TheEnveRockStudio]

"Hurry up, but wait" - was the first thing I learned being on set. 🤣

[@flickcine]

😂

[@KTHKUHNKK]

@@flickcine I prefer to remain an independent filmmaker. Direct edit produce. Many people can be very difficult to work with. I found that out early in the game. Keith Kuhn KK Motion Pictures On KZbin And a few for the big screen.

[@ralphmasucci9005]

For a highschooler who isn't going to film school, this helps so much and makes me very excited for the future. Thanks for always being honest in your videos

[@reign8428]

Literally just finished film school at the end of last month, so this came at the perfect time! Kind of in a '...what do I do now?' phase but hopefully productions will start going back to normal in the next few months :)

[@flickcine]

Here's hoping, Emerson! All the best! Might take a while to get the ball rolling but you'll get there!

[@AntonioPaezL]

Awesome and relaxing video as always :) Thank you Felicia, be safe!

[@danielgrindrod]

Taxes 😂 no one ever prepares you for taxes!

[@Ross-ve9ww]

I know that a driving license is very important in the film industry and even though I would really like a career in the film industry I actually legally can’t drive due to a disability. Do you think they would be able to make some sort of adjustments in relation to that or should I think about taking another career path and you can be COMPLETELY honest.

[@switcheie5131]

To tell you the truth, film school isn’t worth it. It depends who you are though. On the one hand it is an environment where you can make mistakes with very little consequence and it also eases you into an intense workflow. You CAN get lucky and make some connections with your lecturers- if they like you. Realistically though, you have to work quite hard for solid feedback from film teachers and the majority that are employed now have outgrown the current state of the industry, so to some extent they teach you an outdated workflow, outdated slang/ set terminology. By outdated set terminology I do mean equipment, if you do go to film school try and learn as much specific equipment as you can. If you find yourself quite anxious or shy then film school is a good place to build your confidence, but the actual learning from the courses themselves aren’t too different from throwing yourself into a professional set as an assistant or runner. Not to mention coming into the industry the degree doesn’t secure you jobs immediately into your dream role, which is a huge misconception. You will still have to work from ‘the bottom’ to get to where you want eventually- that is unless you have a ruthlessly good portfolio thats consistent from your university work. Film schools are also highly likely to endorse drama or indie based films more than other genre films for your projects, since they are more ‘submittable’ to festivals. It’s a hard argument because I can’t say that film school was worth it being where I am now, I can’t say that I wouldn’t have gotten to the same place working immediately instead. All I can say is that my confidence went up socially and in making contacts with friends. Making the few good non pretentious films becomes like survival and you’ll find team work with 80% of students who all want to direct incredibly difficult. I think another thing people don’t address is that you do get marked a lot/ to an extent (depending on school) on your teamwork not necessarily on individual skill. This will be your worst nightmare in a technical specialism with a student director who likes the idea of directing, but has done little to no learning other than watch every Tarantino back to back because they want to be the next big auteur. Also be aware of at least one truly bad teacher, one who is weirdly bitter and only criticises work rather than teaching. Anyway, I can’t romanticise film school. It has its pros but it has a lot of cons haha. If you do go make sure you go to extra conventions, go the extra mile, talk to a lot of people, do an awful lot of necessary independent learning so that you’re ahead of your peers. Hope that’s helpful. I’m still a student but about to leave, hopefully other students have a better experience from myself.

[@flickcine]

This is EXACTLY what film school is like. Well at least that was also my experiences.

[@switcheie5131]

Felicia Smith they could do so much more with it, I know people that are really happy there but then when they step on an actual set, not a student set, they might as well know nothing. I don’t think I realised how little they taught until I started running outside of film school. Apprenticeships/internships would probably be a better alternative- and you get paid to do them lol. I should have done that instead of spending so much money on a degree I recommend others do the same.

[@k.s.KrishnaKumar98]

How do I joined as assistant did u studied in film school what did u studied ?

[@flickcine]

I studied film but you don't necessarily have to. There are other ways to start working in film but it very much depends on where you live. Every country and even areas have different ways and methods in place for people to start working and get a foot in the door. Sometimes the best way is to send an email on to someone in your area who is doing the same job you want and have a friendly chat about how to get in. Otherwise there may be attachment or trainee programs around that you can start with. It's a very complicated question to answer but I hope that was helpful!

[@k.s.KrishnaKumar98]

Thankyou for ur info !!

[@switcheie5131]

Do you have any recommendations into breaking into documentary/ journalistic documentary? Does it help having your own camera system?

[@flickcine]

I can't really say because it's not something I do very often and I don't specialise in it. I would say it will probably help to have a camera system to offer productions like that though and a small set of lights too. 👍

[@switcheie5131]

PRIVATE thanks so much for the great advice 👍 I’m going into my last year of film school, I have one more year with access to industry level equipment. I’m pitching a project for my last year about a women’s football team- they tackle racism, sexism, prejudice within their local community, but they just get on with it. I’m really excited about being able to tell their story on screen but to be honest film school has been useless. The lecturers are extremely traditional and they don’t nurture ambition. It’s incredibly hard to feel confident about pushing ideas and asking about what works in terms of how you will show the story when your seniors are looking at things as how the industry USED to be, whilst simultaneously being a bit in the a dark about how it is currently. I haven’t directed documentary before, I’ve worked on camera, in lights, in edit and I’m incredibly intimidated. They don’t teach us about bringing out the story from your subjects, making connections or documentary structure/ different approaches. They teach us cinema verite that’s about it. I wish I could say there was more validity to film school but I don’t feel there is, it’s a few years to make mistakes with little consequence that’s for sure, but other than that it doesn’t really nurture filmmakers. Everything else in retrospect I could have learnt more on professional sets running/ assisting.

[@ricklord7144]

I wish you you lived next door. Setting up a new studio in Lebanon Oregon. Making films here is going to be a huge challenge. We might as well be building submarines in the desert!!! That said, it is now training time. Teaching wannabe filmmakers the craft in a town of 17K, is not going to be easy. Not necessarily looking for film school graduates. Looking for those who truly want to learn the craft from a practical sense. ! I'll be sending all I can to your channel! Thank you much!

[@christykail3314]

Having to network while working is something I find really challenging. I know a lot of my peers find it easy to start chatting to people when they're on set and tend to get jobs and contacts that way, whereas I always assume people will be too busy to talk to me. There's definitely a balance to be struck.

[@RafeeqRasheed]

Can i work with you?

[@vintagebroadwaystar3473]

I think it would have been useful to explain how working as a freelancer works in terms of networking, tax, invoicing etc! Some pretty useful knowledge

[@flickcine]

I've had a video like that on the list for a while actually. It's just a matter of wording it right to cater to an international audience. Especially when it comes to handling taxes. 👍👍 Working on it!

[@vintagebroadwaystar3473]

@@flickcine I think film schools should teach it though- a lot of courses have a unit on resume writing and similar, so it would be awesome if film schools explained a bit about 'the real world' since it differs from the mainstream work environment so greatly

[@flickcine]

Oh misread your comment! 100% agree with you there 👍👍

[@vintagebroadwaystar3473]

@PRIVATE I just meant that 20 year olds don't have much life experience and letting them have an idea of what they are in for could be really useful. Obviously there's lots of factors for specifics as you say, but when there is a focus in high school and other univeristy courses on resume writing and a 9-5 job, some insights for kids fresh out of high school and studying film into freelance life and the importance of networking could be reeeeeally beneficial, and I speak from experience.

[@LimboCutFilm]

Thanks a lot

[@matthewlivingston3168]

I live in New Mexico. And it's very competitive to get into the local union. Especially almost next to impossible to get into the camera union. The same camera crews work all the tv shows and movies. It's very competitive. I feel like the veterans are scared the newbies will take their jobs. I'm very optimistic I'll get into the camera union. I just have to be patient and keep networking.

[@flickcine]

Very interesting to hear how it goes in different areas of the world. I have run into a few people in my short time who have been protective of their jobs. It's not really nice huh 😕 All the best! I hope you get in!

[@matthewlivingston3168]

@@flickcine Thank you. I love the content. I used the knowledge and did extremely well on set. ♥️

[@StoneFistedProps]

Hi Felicia Hello from the US (New Jersey) Long time follower, Wanted to say Thank you and Hello. I have to say There is not one video that you have put out that I haven't learned a few new things. Keep creating and stay heathy and safe.

[@flickcine]

Thanks so much for the kind words! You stay healthy and safe as well ☺️

[@dallasdandigitalproduction393]

Great to see you again Felicia! I hope everything is well with you 👍

[@bradengarner3917]

This is so helpful! I do have a question about when sending out emails to people- is this essentially like cold calling someone you've never talked to before to try and start a connection or is it someone you sort of know? Also, what sort of things did you send to them that worked in your experience? (sorry if these are common sense, I'm still in film school haha)

[@jamesandcamera]

I always tell my partner the only reason I would go to film school is purely the connections, but its an expensive way to gain connections for a TV peasant like me hahaha. I can see why it might be good to go to film school if you want to be a dir, ad, prod, or writer etc.... But camera, sound and light are more trades and should be taught as a trade to get the best results in learning in my opinion.

[@flickcine]

100% agree with you. TV peasant?! Maaan I certainly couldn't do your job. Different jobs different skills! 😎

[@jamesandcamera]

@@flickcine hahaha, nah its just a little bit of harmless self deprecating humour. Its all much of a muchness in reality.