What YOU Really THINK About Builder Base 2.0 Update (Clash of Clans)

Builder Base 2.0 Update was Released in Clash of Clans a few days ago! Kenny Jo reviews feedback and issues from players who voted on a poll about whether they liked or disliked the New Builder Base revamp for 2023. In this video, resource collection, trophy pushing, attack strategy changes, and base layout design is discussed regarding the latest CoC Update.
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[@dr.4474]

My main problem is the lack of loot and upgrade time, and I also must admit it’s pretty hard to concentrate on many abilities at once of troops and the hero

[@brianstrutter1501]

Bingo

[@adarshmohan4149]

You'll get use to it once you practice for just 1 hr..

[@mohammadomar2505]

1 yr*

[@mattangrick5446]

@@adarshmohan4149 some ppl don’t have even that much time…

[@Reymax164]

​@@adarshmohan4149 yeah, but still misclick pretty often… when you thought you haven't dropped the troop then accidentally used the ability 🤣

[@cvx-6362]

It will be wayy better if we get more loot from attacks

[@user-iw3xw6ph7t]

Looting is way easier bro . Take this trick , downgrade your trophies around 300 and then gain trophies before the next star bonus comes up . In this process gain good loot .

[@antonioaldrich8067]

​@@user-iw3xw6ph7t no dont release the secreats :)

[@mrjaffa7354]

Yea. I don't have a lot of time to play and I am now getting less than before the update. They want me to play all day which I can't do

[@soumodipkarmakar402]

​@@user-iw3xw6ph7t yes very intelligent move🤡

[@pondwtreblex9379]

​@@mrjaffa7354skill issue

[@mikefowler7689]

Builder base has always felt, and still feels, more like a responsibility then anything actually fun

[@LisaOnRoids]

Fr it's only purpose is to unlock the 6th builder before and even after the update.

[@SayfuHQ]

I really like it now

[@Woooble]

@@SayfuHQnot until you reach emerald or higher, it gets boring. People ether peka spam or dragon spam now. Unless you upgrade to max, defense on double cannons it just becomes copy paste meta even if you place building around it.

[@yuuotosaka2834]

For me its still fun since you can attack anytime unlike in regular village in which you have to train units and is kinda bad to attack most of the time since it can decrease your shield

[@calvinsimpson1301]

The upgrade prices are NUTS with the bullshit loot we get. I have to farm for several days to a week to afford a single lab upgrade or hero

[@riteshplayz223]

When I first played the new BB, I was very excited by more strategic attacks and abilities stuff but when I got to know that to enjoy it at full potential, it would cost me much resources and time as well. So now it's like just get the 6th Builder and watch the full potential at KZbin, I guess.

[@joshuabuell2097]

Until you play 1 match and realize your units are useless lol

[@exoticengram5214]

@@joshuabuell2097 So true. Starting a new account recently has been really annoying with grinding out builder base. There is so few troops to work with and so many defenses to go against; I think the negatives outweigh the positives.

[@_TIA_NormanJayaperlaga]

@@joshuabuell2097 just play to get star bonus. it just to boring to get die all the time

[@Thunderforce90]

Personally I think the problem is that outside of the 6th builder the builder base does not benefit the home village whatsoever, and I would assume most players mostly care about home village progress excluding the 6th builder. My personal suggestion would be to add some extra requirements to the max clock tower, and once you get it, the clock tower affect extends to the home village.

[@kammyieral2800]

He said something like this in the vid

[@ShimokuraMegu]

i think that would be a bit op the boost effect on home village of the clock tower should be reduced

[@nizardhahri493]

agreed

[@SharyK-_0]

I think they should do something like builder wars and we can use builders medals to use on homevillage aswell BB

[@nicktm873]

Hmmmm sounds interesting....

[@austinhopkins4191]

I think the main problem is for those of us who just only focused on getting 6th builder so the only troops we have upgraded are giants and cannon carts and our defense sucks 🤣

[@KennyJoGaming]

Yup! This is why I posted multiple videos telling people to fix their bases 8 months ago. 😅

[@juancomercial3082]

It would be interesting something like "Night troops" exactly like the super ones, maybe that way, people would at least play or upgrade one thing more than the 6th builder, maybe the idea of wars or a clan involved activity within the builder base.... Imagine a Builder League? New bases and a sort of cc ??

[@Florian13492]

Why the hell would you waste elixir upgrading the giants when your goal was/is the 6th builder?😂 Even if you reach a higher league it's not even close to be worth it just upgrade cannon cart (now just any troop) and save all the elixir for your heroes.

[@vinamra216]

​​@@Florian13492 Giants and Ccart were considered best army for spamming cause to unlock 6th builder you have to upgrade cannon cart so you only have to max one more troop to get the best and easy army 🎉

[@Rohitmanotra664]

Exactly man😅. I am also one of them.

[@mario_ol]

i really like the old version, it is so difficult to push trophies and there is very low loot

[@dylanoneil9523]

I miss the old version to I’ve lost nearly 600 trophies since attacking bc I can’t make a base effective enough and no matter what army I use it doesn’t do much better

[@FishCantRoll]

I've always viewed the builder base as a mini base to work on while all builders are busy in the main base Now, due to the upgrade times being so much longer, it no longer has that charm to it. It was very sly of them to give us two builders, something we already had the option to have, just to increase upgrade times by more than double.

[@MP-vf8qz]

The extra worker was named otto. And they gave it for free 2 townhalls earlier instead of earning it.

[@Siddu457]

I think players who already max their th 9 bases before the 2.0 version and having higher trofies are enjoying because the players who did not max yet are suffering to get 6 stars from max opponents and it is really hard to get sufficient loot also

[@ToniCroX]

And since attacks feel longer for small loot amounts, it really takes some motivation to go and grind it, not to mention time investment with already Capital raids, Cwl, Clan games, main village... It would be fine if only the builder base was THE game, but it's a game within a game within a game. Players will prioritize, the clan and the main village always in my opinion. Unless they connect it to the main village somehow.

[@gamerboyx8243]

*BH9

[@jenimjacobp]

I am almost maxed the BH 9 only Tesla left and I am around 4000 trophies I too can't attack properly no one ever 6 star my base I am gaining lots of Elixir no gold

[@Chroui]

I'm max bh 9 but suffering from all the bh 10 gemmers

[@100RABHKO4]

No one is getting 6 stars regularly, i am Max bh9 but still struggling to get even 3 stars. But that doesn't mean i am not enjoying game or getting less loot

[@rovsvet4494]

I think they should increase the time you have when you attack, because you don't really have time to be very strategical.

[@nayan.punekar]

True.

[@immasnarl292]

you have a whole minute to strategize for each base, the actual attack is 2 minutes per base, if they gave more cannon carts and flying-copter would be even more overpowered

[@eb-ji9wg]

@@immasnarl292 that's the problem we are used to 3min attack I would rather they reduce the the time before the attack to 30 sec and make the actual attack 3 min

[@cosmic6146]

with the reduced number of troops this is really needed

[@noahdiluca9857]

You get 4 minutes total to destroy the same number of buildings so if anything you have more time to destroy each building

[@sporemariomaster]

It definitely felt like home base was very strategic and and builder base was very casual. I very much like spamming a ton of units and seeing the chaos that unfolds so I really loved builder base but now it feels like builder base is more like the home village and now there isn't that mix of very casual and more strategic.

[@jacksonxavier261]

09:20 Exactly. I think they should add a system where we can have an upgrade to the already existing forge once we get to a higher level bh. We should be able to melt bh gold and elixer to get dark elixer to main village. Also some sort of system where we can transfer a reasonable amount of our bh troops into our main village troops in clan war attacks(only in cwl wars). Some dude also commeted that bh clock tower should affect main village too once it reaches a high level, and I think that would be awesome. Anyway great video JO.❤️

[@thegamingking1972]

Respect to Jo for making this video. Almost no other coc youtuber made a video like this highlighting what people don't like about this update.

[@Wrath0]

He is real one for not dickriding supercell like others

[@thegamingking1972]

@@Wrath0 yeah unlike a sloth I know

[@Wrath0]

@@thegamingking1972 yes!!!!!! oj too is unhinged and will criticise the update if he plays it long enough cuz he doesn't care aswell which is really cool

[@windycloud9164]

From what I read, 2.0 got about 70% disapproval if not higher

[@RandomGuy38100]

I feel like a big problem with the new builder hall update is that they can put you against a higher builder hall and since there is no skipping your stuck with it and then your usually stuck with a lower percentage.

[@zampoloo]

That's generally league balancing

[@Sorry_I_Lag500ping]

That was in the old builder base too though, difference here is that you don't have to wait if you Ragequit knowing they're too strong

[@laytonjr6601]

@@Sorry_I_Lag500ping in old builder base I didn't rage quit, because if they have the same trophies as me with higher lvl defenses it's because they are bad at attacking

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

You can just play down a hero and skip those. It's better to lose trophies than time while grinding resources.

[@andrewchugg9443]

I actually noticed the spring trap thing the other day too. After looking at all the troop weights, spring traps now only bounce archers, barbarians and drop ship skeletons. Definitely a strange change and unless they change that I wouldn’t recommend anybody spending resources on them

[@laytonjr6601]

There's too many springtraps on a base for them to be able to just one shot one sixth of your army (be it a canon cart, giant or night witch). However it's strange they don't bounce hogs and bombers even at max level

[@MrSquidwardGames]

​@@laytonjr6601 they should reduce the number of spring traps to 2, and have them cover the majority of troops except big heavy troops. It makes the value of a strategic spring trap very appreciable

[@luis-sophus-8227]

@@MrSquidwardGames No, they should buff each by two

[@goodcitizen3780]

Old bh system was way more fun. Now it feels more like a chore. Also some of the competitiveness is gone with the way the matches are structured. It went from fun to unfun

[@alfred0225]

My problem is that I really really like this update actually, but I do not benefit in my home village as you said. That is my own personal opinion and preference. I could live with this being hard to get loot and not being leveled up so fast. But if I don’t benefit from it towards my home village, I will get bored with it over time. And I think that’s the reality of missy players, might be wrong but I am speaking for myself

[@gundgaming-brawlstars7082]

True Alfred its no benefits on upgrading to bh10 beside if you’re already maxed

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

​@@gundgaming-brawlstars7082well, apart from L10 gem mines but other than that yeah TH10 could use some better connection to the home village.

[@achiffoncake]

I do not enjoy the split loot system (Elixir from defending only). I also feel like troops die too fast by the time we reach second base in most scenarios. Edit: Also as a F2P player, kinda sucked that we had to upgrade the healing hut from scratch. It really sucks having troops that start low in the 2nd phase.

[@deblxdee]

I tried to rush to BH9 to unlock 6th builder and got to the halfway point and the thing I hate the most that Cannon Carts are just 50/50 unit and it' ability to turn into mortar is so... I don't even know the word, but I'd say dumb. So, Baby Dragon gets to have 2 abilities (Tantrum and Burst of Fire), but cannon cart literally just changes modes... The only thing worth doing is now upgrading the barracks to unlock pekkas and hogs to spam the bases, since previously many were focusing on getting the 6th builder.

[@Determ1nat1on]

@@deblxdee Cannon Carts are better than ever. Even having 1 of them alive along with Hero & Bomber makes 2nd phase very much doable (I'm BH7). So I suggest to look for more strats on KZbin.

[@catlord9276]

@@Determ1nat1on nope they still are trash they are now nothing compared to before is say this out of experience bc lvl 18 canon cart spam could get you 2 stars and would also destroy maxed bases but know they are trash, my army before the update was canon cart spam which was very strong because i was a rushed base now im going to upgrade my nightwitches which seem the only cheap viable options, the baby dragon might also be good but i want to upgrade nightwitches first

[@Determ1nat1on]

@@catlord9276 Different playstyles I guess. I never spam anymore & it's doing wonders

[@nayan.punekar]

​@@catlord9276Just don't play sapm then and actually learn to use them but yeah they are not very useful if the defenses are placed together and the archer towers are placed on the sides.

[@takhanh0123]

When the otto or master builder has maxed out all buildings (certain conditions) the builder base, could move them to the home village. And when there is an update related the builder base, both will have to finish the unfinished work in the home village and by default they have to return to the builder base.

[@apollon5341]

I think that they should make the battle machine or battle copter upgradable with gold because elixir now is harder to get and most people really focus more on upgrading troops and machines

[@_nemanja_p_]

I don't like this new update. I think they changed way to much. Nothing works like it worked earlier. Pekka dies very easy. Cannon cart is almost usless untill you have specific case. Barbarians and archers are too small number of units per camp with just a little bit more hp. Also, Giants are usless too. Time for upgrades is way too much expended and loot isn't good if you don't start really grinding it.

[@A.Weirdo.I.Guess000]

The devs wants players to do more thinking and less spaming. They want us to play carefully, amd not spamming night witch or pekkas anymore. But yeah, upgrade time is kinda too much and the loot from attacking feels lacking

[@_nemanja_p_]

@@A.Weirdo.I.Guess000 you can spam till some point then if you want to go further, you need to think about what ar you doing. You can spam on 3k but 4-5k and more, if you just spam, that would be barely one star or two if you are lucky.

[@melongolemist]

Your right all we need is just they remove the versus attack but add find attack that's all I I'm excited about this update but now nah

[@ademex1062]

Timing and troop strength are major issues in BH Base 2.0

[@khanahteshamlk]

I took your advice for rushing and unlocking the 2nd builder in months of March and achieved it by mid of April that was the best advice one could give so i would be subscribing your channel know

[@diegoroswell302]

Thanks for bonanza challenge help video, could not have done it without you

[@CheapseaChicken]

Since Raid medals worked well to link the capital and the main base. maybe they can add it as an extra resource you gain when completing the star bonus and the amount increases depending on your league (maybe from 10-20 raid medals in the lowest league per day to 100 per day in the highest league). also it would probably have to be renamed to something that fits both the builder base and the clan capital

[@A.Weirdo.I.Guess000]

I love the new bulider base, altough I wish that attacks would grant players equal amount of gold from attacking and equal amount of elixir for defending. Also, you can cancel Bomber's animation by clicking his skill right after he throws the normal bomb, so you will throw 2 bombs in 2 seconds with nearly no delay

[@imagiman]

I feel like the loot has always been an issue with the builder base. before you had a strict limit on how much loot you could earn, and now without the cap the loot they give is miniscule.

[@sameed.ahmed_]

Finally a coc KZbinr who is talking about the drawbacks of the update 🤩

[@lismarino]

As a extremely rushed BH9 player who only spammed cannon carts and just tried to get the 6th builder, I found the update really annoying at first because I needed one more hero and my troops are all at low level to attack and I actually needed to think before attacking, I am starting to like the update more and more because of that. Even though my main goal is still the 6th builder, I think the changes are really good aside the low amount of loot you gain.

[@Matthewmoo32]

Same and to make it worse the cannon cart is trash now even at max lvl

[@jayschulz8060]

Exactly they are forcing you spend money 💰

[@frenkking7554]

Great video Jo! You summarised all of our issues in a 10 minute video. I agree with all of the players and I hope clash of clans listens to the players' feedback and improve the things that the players want to change. I hope people won't quit playing builder base because imo it's very fun and you have something to do while waiting for your army to be ready.

[@Kurokyura]

I miss the old builder base I just wish they gave us more ways to earn loot

[@jandaxprss6784]

As someone who spent days building my base in the original version and planned on my expansions between levels the split up messed with me too

[@unknownbhai0202]

Complexity is not an issue It's rather so much fun as it's sooo engaging The only main problem is just soo little loot and soo high upgrade cost as rightfully said in video Overall it's an 🔥 update

[@galaxion1013]

I have no problem at all with loot, you can get way more loot than before if you can attack well. The main issue is the upgrade time

[@beenaaneesh863]

@@galaxion1013 True waiting for thing to upgrade is super long i will prob turn 80 when these upgrades finish

[@user-iw3xw6ph7t]

Looting is way easier bro . Take this trick , downgrade your trophies around 300 and then gain trophies before the next star bonus comes up . In this process gain good loot .

[@anon1963]

​@@galaxion1013 *if you have max troops*

[@HahaNotMyproblem]

And the building time is extended which i hate :< , even though we have 2 builders XD

[@dark.e.]

I like the way they curated the update But completely disappointed by how they ignored 90% of their player base is casual players From the very 1st blog about BB2.0 it was sure that the update would over complicate the BB And I would side myself with that, along with the bad loot system

[@brandonneilsta.teresa3494]

I now play more builder base than the normal base because of how fast-paced it's become. There's just a few problems like slow matchups and loot acquisition, which take more than 10 matches to fill up my storages.

[@LordRevolver]

The impression I have with builder base 2.0 is that there could be (Or they plan to have ) another update to have BH wars. I thought this because I saw that the clan settings recruiting requirements have included the BH trophy level and BH base level. The attacking having to be more strategic if you want 6 stars is great, same with your defenses earning more elixir if it was solid. I would love to have BH Wars, it would encourage not rushing BH as well. I’m stuck wanting to rush to get 6th Builder but maxing my BH6 at moment with this anticipation in mind.

[@Jason-ue9gd]

It's fun, I went from 5k to 5840 trophies since the new release but it still has alot of issues. Biggest one is 'losing connection'. Made me lose lots of trophies, very frustrating. Besides that I enjoy it, too bad spam attacks (Pekka and Baby dragon) are still meta. But it's only fun for now, once everyone is maxed again bb will be dead content again, it doesn't reward anything.

[@catlord9276]

well, it is kinda hard and boring unless you are trying to get the 6th builder

[@KennyJoGaming]

Yep I’ve had this issue too

[@thegamingking1972]

How are you gaining trophies being a bh8 almost maxed player at 3200 trophies I can't almost gain any

[@JoJo-ej6ct]

In the lower levels (bh 6) everyone just puts all traps and defences the game allows on stage 1 so its nearly impossible to get to stage 2

[@immasnarl292]

@@thegamingking1972 rush to builder hall 10 and look at what strats pros use

[@sync1860]

hey joe great content as always

[@chrishyde7798]

Really good video! I'm still on the fence about the new BB system. I voted meh, yesterday; but I'm willing to give it a shot.

[@epicness2632]

The upgrade times seem to be balanced around having 5 builders in the builder base.

[@CJ_YT96]

I think the re design is better for the game. I also think there's no incentive for someone that's already got their 6th builder to play it.. the only time I'll give it a shot is for my seasonal task or clan games.

[@iwumboxd6261]

They really said they wanted to bring back strategy to it, and now you have so few troops you just have to spam what you have and hope

[@pokemontrouble6905]

they should make the loot based more on the town hall level you beat, like attacking highter town halls gives more loot than if you attack same/lower town halls, also make the leagues give magic items at hight level league, like getting wall rings at highter leagues would be very usefull

[@ThrustersX]

I'm a f2p almost maxed BH5 base and currently upgrading to BH6 and all I can say is that this update is game-changing. I've been stuck with BH5 since the builder base debut and it was extremely hard to loot since I keep getting opponents at a higher builder hall level than me which made me quit the game 5 years ago. Upgrading time is too long and it was impossible to attack without a level 5 battle machine (which would require immense loot again). This update made it extremely fun and the amount of loot that I get now is astoundingly generous. Definitely a 10/10 update at least for me.

[@sarthaksingh-zc7cr]

Thanks you are the only content creator who is with community others are just gaining views and not answering on bugs etc ❤❤

[@JuliusNovak_]

I've had the most fun with this update, yes they're still a lot of flaws like springtraps,loot, and building upgrade times but I think this update did what it was set out to do and that was make attacking more enjoyable and I've been wanting to attack way more compared to the past where I hated attacking

[@gloryercash6114]

What town hall are you on, I’m on level 5 and it’s so boring now and the loot coins are so little… I’ve stopped playing all together feels pointless

[@JuliusNovak_]

@@gloryercash6114 I'm th11 but I'm bh7 and yes I don't get very much loot even though I have 3k trophies but it's still fun for me

[@jeffmorris5938]

My problem is that the troops are now auto upgraded to a certain level , but if you want to upgrade then further in the lab you are still upgrading them from 0 until you match the level they have been auto upgraded too.

[@andycaldwell65]

I think it would help us upgrade our builder bases too, if we could bring the 6th builder over the the builder base like we could before. So we'll instead have 3 builders in the builder base, and then with a loot upgrade, that'd be really good

[@samirkhadka566]

I don't know why but in the middle of attack suddenly there comes the WiFi signal and I have to again load the game even though my WiFi signal is powerful

[@kka4635]

Now.....I hate builder base after update is coming.😢

[@laytonjr6601]

I only started playing coc again recently and I had a maxed out bh7 (except walls). I was in the process of rushing the 6th builder when 2.0 was announced. I was using both builders to fix the rushing so the upgrade times sucks. I don't have the skill yet to pull 200% with canon carts (my only lvl18 troop) and giants (lvl16) and I always get at least 120% with 7 lvl13 PEKKAs so there's that. Grinding the 4M elexir for the 8th camp on top of fixing the rushed troops levels (13 PEKKA, 12 baby drag, 11 dropships, 15 hog glider because those troops look like they're the most important), the healing camp and the battle copter is such a pain.

[@thomasosa]

I’ve been max BB with the 6th builder in the 5K trophy range for years. I was excited about BB 2.0 just because it was new.. but that excitement quickly went away when seeing the upgrade times for BH10 and the extra army camp with the low loot levels. “What’s the point” replaced the excitement because it feels like there’s nothing to play for given the lack of connection to the home village. Definitely needs to be something more to it to make the grind to remax feel worth it

[@zerosixteen.4644]

I like that you're calling out the issues compared to other KZbinrs who doesn't say anything bad about the update because Supercell might fire them

[@bigfatfishy6985]

In my opinion i think they should add a practice system kinda like in the home village but instead of just showing you exactly what you should do it should show you what is good against what and it should also show you what to look for when using specific troops. This would make it easier for people to understand how the troops work more and when to use them rather than just spamming one or placing different ones in random positions where they will do nothing and fail. I think this will make people more happy about attacking and almost make it easier so people have more fun with it and actually know what to do

[@isaacogunmuko3947]

And that would motivate more players to play Builder Base 2.0

[@joshuabuell2097]

Or maybe let the units not die in half a second.

[@ashlinthomas4500]

@@joshuabuell2097that’s your fault for placing it bad positions in range of defences, not the games.

[@joshuabuell2097]

@@ashlinthomas4500 im assuming you don't have 5k trophies lol

[@joshuabuell2097]

@@ashlinthomas4500 half the units are more useless and die very quickly. Hogs take 2 per defense and dies in 3 seconds to any double cannon, large Tesla, hammer, 2 archer towers, or 2 canons. You don't get as many units and their stats doesn't match up with the loads of traps. Only decent units are archers, pekkas, and might witches. Canon Motor range is glitched, units abilities glitched, connection issues glitch, crash in the middle of battle glitch to top it off. It needs heavy fixing. Also, noticed a certain defense nobody can get thru with mega Tesla in the middle with the reinforcement camp surrounded in walls in the middle while surrounding that with air defenses. This mode is not good at all.

[@sephirapple7317]

5:20 you are 100% right I think they should add some more incentive to play builder base and link it up with the main base! Also very true about loot being extremely hard to get, especially elixir (I am finding gold goes up a little faster, but you still need to make a ton of attacks. I did find a bit of an exploit however, if you aren't too fussed about trophies, you can put a hero in, leave and then repeat. By doing this you can have about 8 or 9 defences running live in parallel. This makes elixir go up relatively fast!

[@VSerge_]

I really like the fact that it doesnt feel like the standard mobile game thing anymore. I like that you can play however much you want, because on one day i'll want to play 10 games but on the next day i dont feel like doing 10 but only 2. This was very annoying because playing more than 3 a day felt like a waste and playing less than 3 felt like you missed out.

[@tontschsven9480]

I prefered the old bb.The only thing that needed to be changed was the attacking system.Just imagine that you attack just one base like the old bb but with this new loot system instead of versus battles.For me is just too hard to get even 3 stars on the first stage.The only thing that I like in this update is the new bh 10 content

[@itskiki4979]

I would say it's a skill issue I very rarely fail to get the first 3 stars even without trying 🤣

[@azeroeu7918]

I love builder hall 2.0! Just need a bit of tweaking when it comes to the loot and maybe troops. My guess is that Supercell won't release a new builder hall level as frequent as in the home village. So I feel like the cost and time for upgrades are reasonable since it would get less fun after you get maxed.

[@R3cycl3dGoods]

I like having a much more strategic system for the Builder Base, the resources are an issue for me too, and I'm struggling to figure out a base layout, but over all I think it's good, but not perfected yet

[@domanickharper]

I feel the same with trophies, mostly I can stick in the 2600-2700 range but once ever maybe 5-10 defences randomly one or two people will 6 star me out of nowhere and I feel like I just got reset. It’s a trickle and then I just get slammed again. Where someone will use mostly all of one type of troop or whatever and you ask « how do I even defend that.. »

[@SirRadiator]

So far I’ve been really enjoying the new update, especially attacking and being more strategic about it. I could definitely use a bit more loot though 😅 Also kinda difficult to climb trophies but that may be because I’m a rushed BH10 lol

[@ghost-bk1fv]

As a player who had maxed his bh9 few months ago, i feel like the current update is okayish at best. Most players who were above 3700 trophies never won battels just by doing spam. Loot is less then before. It just needed the bh10 update not a whole new village and make it way more complicated. Nothing will change as people will play for sometime then stop it like before. It was never spammy for higher trophies and was just an escape from home village a place bit easier where you relax or chill. And i agree with you untill builder base doesn't give something to main base most people wouldn't bother about it

[@wasimpatel2618]

i like the idea of anytime loot system , i could get builder exiler on attacking and coins on defending , so i can update my builder machine copter faster. bcoz my base is rush and im facing difficulty on defending, and TIP- spam is still working (baby dragon and power p.e.k.k.a)

[@Infinite_Curiosity00]

Overall better, but could still use work. Glad we have 2nd bh builder at bh6. I still run rushed till max level. The only part I don't rush is offence. My alt account bh7 has good defence, but it gets really spammy to gain elixir for offence/storage upgrades. Loot could be increased a bit. Upgrade timers could be adjusted down as well.

[@OganYT]

I love the new battle system, I love the new way the troops work now. Also the fact where spring traps don't work on most troops is awesome because if you have so few troops and they just get randomly deleted, it's not a good thing. I think they should've never been added in the first place. Of course the loot and building time situation isn't the best but overall I think this update is really cool.

[@Om_2411]

It is tough now to push trophies 😢 jo!!

[@KennyJoGaming]

I know…as stated in the vid

[@ernestosaenz-hernandez7154]

I enjoy the new update. I like the cannon cart a lot. I just got upset because I had used a lot of shovel of obstacles to decorate my builder base. Now all obstacles are gone and replaced with new one and I didn’t get any shovels to compensate me.

[@Nathan-uc6rn]

I actually think it's pretty fun so far, but the biggest issue is the catching up we have to do at the start. With the healing hut, battlecopter, and second reinforcement camp either being weak/not built at the start, it makes attacking very difficult at BH 9. More specifically, I think the biggest misstep was the fact that they made the second reinforcement camp takes 10 whole days to build, and I'm a free to play player so I have to wait for a long time being really underpowered. At BH 9 it almost isn't possible to get the 6 star without the second reinforcement camp; I've only managed to do it once and have gotten really close a ton of times, so knowing that I would've gotten the 6 star if I had the second reinforcement camp feels really bad.

[@mdirfanahmedshabdi9161]

Clash upgraded Builder base to stop spam armies people started spamming PEKKA and Baby dragon 😂

[@SharyK-_0]

Yup 6 pekkas and close the game

[@darsammi2823]

I need my old builder base back 😭

[@kalada4310]

yeah i rushed bh10 so i get like no elexir and it takes forever to get enought to upgrade the 2 heros to get the 6th builder they need to increse the loot and bring down upgrade times im just like waiting for 10 days to get my builders back

[@shamzad1]

Before this update I was continuesly upgrading my troop, but my reserch lab is empty since the update dropped. That explains the loot number. Also the system to attack to get defences doest really work, sometimes I cancel the search bcoz of long wait time and see some1 attacking 🤔

[@TheSpyceWizard]

It would be better if it were easier to push trophies, and more loot would be nice.

[@luis-sophus-8227]

Improve matchmaking (although it's mostly fault of those crappy players who are bh9 and still on 1800 trophies)

[@noahgeerdink5144]

I love the new builder base, but I also loved the old one. I like how you can just pass time doing attacks without much negative consequences for your progress, unlike the main village. The only thing i miss from the old base is the 1v1 were you are incentivize to watch the other attack. I do think that it wasn’t good in the original BB but i miss that highly 1v1 in this version. Maybe a hybrid would work 🤔

[@milanpaudel9624]

There should be a system like we can exchange our Resources between two villages. or We can bring some super troops from Builder base to Home villages.

[@matthewtam7645]

the only way that resources currently cross over from the builder base is the gem mine (which is slow but it's something at least), and the capital gold forge. The main problem though is that the forge needs 2.4 mil of the builder base resources, which is quite a lot imo

[@syan2240]

You really need like 20 attacks to upgrade a crusher in bh6 That made it way too hard The loot bonus is less than what we got in bb1.0 And trying to keep 2 builder occupied with this little loot? Hell nah

[@SharyK-_0]

60 attacks for bh9

[@abderrazzakbenbahou269]

And it'd take 2 days to upgrade a crusher in the older bb. I think bb 2.0 rewards grinding players in higher leagues tho...

[@syan2240]

@@abderrazzakbenbahou269 well the upgrade times are much better after the upgrade because if otto Which makes the amount of loot we are getting even worse I cant keep up with my builders

[@marceladitya1357]

​@@syan2240 20 attacks in this version you get 400k+ and daily star bonus for about an hour. In previous version, 20 attacks only give you a daily star if it's played in one day

[@syan2240]

@@marceladitya1357 400k??? What league are you in

[@pjgarlow6899]

Overall, I really enjoy the update. I like how it gives me something to do while my home base heroes are upgrading (mass baby dragons or sneaky goblins can get old quick). Overall, I think most players complaints can be linked to how new BB 2.0 is. However, I will agree that the loot bonuses are too low and troops could use some balancing (ie. More troops per camp for barch and minions). But overall, I do really enjoy it so far.

[@lukehallam1881]

I am really enjoying the level of strategy in attacks, but on my mini I noticed that the gold loot for players builder hall 5 and below can be limited without the second part. But tbh I am not sure how to fix it without giving advantages to people of different builder hall levels

[@Abhishek86532]

Yes Kenny i am rushed and still grinding heros almost done though lvl 15 baatle copter and battle machine is upgrading to lvl 26 the grind for loot is very tough 😖

[@Tyrannee]

I definitely think B.Base 2.0 was a really good direction and starting point for improvement. My most favourite part is the removal of the head-to-head system which now makes the pacing much more consistent and fair. I do agree that the loot could be increased a little more, but the major cut of downtime between attacks I think more than makes up for that (though I've already seemed to have run out of storage :/)... Most of the troops I think are pretty cool as well as it looks like SuperCell overhauled to the troops to lean more towards their abilities which makes attacks more strategic and active. However, some troops do feel like they are carried by their abilities too well with the sacrifice of being a bit too brittle against higher DPS defences. This is further the case with troops with only a passive ability (Barbs, Archers, Etc.) are outclassed quickly by troops like C.Carts who're much more efficient in funneling, sniping, and damage. My biggest nit-pick with the update is I rarely get attacks from my oppenents which exceed 2 stars because it's insanely easy to just have an inpenetrable 1st base and any attacker's will've already exhausted most of their troops and/or their abilities. It makes the 2nd base feel a lot more like a 'Bonus-stage' that something worth protecting over... Overall, I'd say, for being a major overhaul of what was admittedly a gamemode which got boring easily due to the meta of spamming and a tedious ranking system, B.Base 2.0 are good stepping stones but not without some prominent flaws like the wierd balancing of troops and defences. Although I can see the problems I mentioned being a much greater issue for B.Halls lower than 8 which DEFINITLEY needs some addressing...

[@Red-mg1nm]

Nothing Changed Still Everyone Spamming Pekkas Hogs and not to mention WITCHES

[@boundedscythe7726]

Not only did they split half the base in half it also spread obstructions everywhere so I can't really move the hole base freelee until I get enough elixir to remove it all

[@andriesolivier3139]

I am sort of casual with 23 bases. Used the old BB mostly to do clan games due to no cost for troops. Now home base troops cost zero as well. You touched on most of the problems with new upgrade. I think that maybe they should link the gold reward to percentage and not stars. Really frustrating to get the same loot for a 54% 2 star as for a 99% two star. I will have to learn new strategies for attacking. New cannon cart sucks. What is the purpose of mortar ability if towers and cannons outrange it especially with the reduction in damage when in that mode.

[@iantaylor7502]

I think the trophy system is really cool. Love the artwork. I also really like the abilities that make it more strategic. People gotta practice a bit more to really push. I think that’s appropriate

[@minecraftengineer1877]

I absolutely love the nrw system, it's so much fun. It just needs loot recalibrated and a bit of rebalancing with some troops.

[@g-man7322]

I’m not going to mention the loot and upgrade times like everyone else but what I will mention is that I feel like I’ve lost all my progress on BB. I went from needing to upgrade maybe 20 wall segments to 100+ individual wall pieces. This change has made gone grime considering using my resources towards upgrading a segment to now thinking it’s a complete waste of time and resources. I wish they had implemented a system like clan capital where you can upgrade five pieces at a time after contributing x amount of elixir or spending it in one go but still being able to move the pieces individually. I don’t mind individual wall pieces in the home village because all the walls are visibly different and you can tell when you’ve gone up a level and I have multiple bases from clan war/upgrade base/farming so it’s always fun to make the walls/base look more visually appealing. With BB you pretty much only have 1 base that you’ll probably use for a long time. This combined with the very minimal differences in builder base walls really makes me feel like I can’t max out the base anymore at least with individual wall pieces.

[@Sillimant_]

Re: low elixir from defence I found that it doesn't matter if you don't get a lot if you have a critical mass of defences going on all the time. Start a match, drop battle machine, drop pekkas, close app, reopen app, repeat My base is pretty bad, and I'm at both the gold and elixir cap, and the elixir cart cap too

[@rosetyler4801]

I like the new update. I think it's an improvement over the old style. They've tried something new and different and that's a good thing. You can't fix a problem if you aren't willing to try new things when looking for a solution. I do wish the builder potions worked in the builder base though, not just in the home base.

[@changrcaterham5784]

Everything feels weaker, the loot you get is pitiful, strategic placement of units feels even more pointless now that everything is so weak; you can’t put one giant and a cannon cart on one side of the base and flood the other side because it’s a third of your army now not just a third of 2 army camps

[@isaacogunmuko3947]

I have Rushed Builder Hall 9 and I've using Clash Ninja's Builder Tab Require Builder Hall Upgrade level feature to complete upgrades by builder hall levels. I've complete Builder 3 and 4 upgrade requirements now I'm up to Builder Hall 5 upgrades.

[@George-lp2ij]

Perfectly said at 5:30, th other alternative to them making it useful to main base would be to make it actually fun somehow. Till then I’ll play during clan games and that’s it. Got my 6th builder almost immediately when that was an option.

[@benwarne189]

Fun factor is a 10/10 Loot and time upgrades = 4/10 Pretty much change some numbers and it’s brilliant

[@YungPuck]

I DESPISE THE UPDATE LET ME EXPLAIN: I had a level 8 builder base with THE MOST ARTISTIC BUILDER BASE LAYOUT ON ALL OF CLASH ROYAL. I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE. THIS UPDATE DELETED MY BUILDER BASE LAYOUT AND SCRATCHED MY ENTIRE BASE WITH THE UNRECOVERABLE COSMETIC DECORATIONS! I DID NOT HAVE A SQUARE BASE!!!!!!!! I HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BUILDER BASE!

[@LetTHIMAN]

I think a good way to link the builder base and the main base is if you would attack in the builder base, you would not just get builder base loot. You would get builder base loot and the normal loot

[@D-S-G.]

My only criticism is that theres nothing stopping a person from just loading all their best defenses in front and making it really difficult to even go to the second base. I feel like a "heavy defense cap" should be done for those 1 count structures to force you to split them up in both bases ar least a little bit.

[@robobo1726]

I think the update is great! Sure the loot is still not the best but I think that is a little exaggerated by the multiple new expensive buildings that are available

[@mishavorostsev8994]

I personally like this new concept of attacking. It’s more engaging and requires a lot more strategy than the previous builder base. However, like what most people are talking about, the loot gained is pretty sad. Especially the gold. I would like to see more loot rewarded for attacks. Also I feel like the upgrade times for the higher level buildings have become a little too lengthy. I understand they added a second builder but still. Shortening the upgrade times a little bit will go a long way. I will clarify that I really enjoy this new type of attacking though. It’s very engaging Edit: Also, I think the battle copter definitely needs some reworking. It’s terrible😂😭

[@quiksilver7373]

Constantly dissconnects, cant match at 6000 trophies, if i cancel opponent search, it connects me later when im not ready… its fucked

[@quixQuery]

The problem with anti-spam is that more troops dealing damage at once is always going to out-DPS and tank better than one or two troops at a time. If you want to reduce spam, place a hard limit on number of camps that can be deployed at a time, give us more time to work with, and make the troop abilities better solo than in synergy. Then you can worry about tweaking the balancing numbers.