What YOUTUBE's Not Telling You About COPPA

KZbin is not telling you the WHOLE TRUTH about COPPA (Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act). And the consequences are disastrous … FTC fines of $42,530 per video, video de-publication, and worse … LOSS of YOUR CHANNEL. In today’s video, I take you through an in-depth history of COPPA, KZbin & the FTC (Federal Trade Commission), including when the FTC fines KZbin. I tell you what you can expect from COPPA & KZbin as of January 1, 2020. I also breakdown the NEW COPPA KZbin rules and give you a COPPA KZbin update. As you may already know, if you get a KZbin COPPA violation, you could lose your channel. So, you’ve got to practice solid KZbin COPPA compliance. Messing with KZbin COPPA FTC is no joke. You’re probably going to need legal representation if you suffer a KZbin FTC fine. That’s what I am here for -- to give you guidance on how to comply with KZbin COPPA law. Thanks for watching.
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[@frankw7266]

Parents should be responsible for policing their children's activities, not the nanny government.

[@ejokurirulezz]

nah just don't give them access

[@bloodycinephile]

The same thing goes for adults. We don't need the government protecting us all the time that's our responsibility.

[@Evija3000]

If I understand it correctly the government is going after creators for KZbin collecting kids' data while the parents do nothing.

[@kmawnster]

Yes indeed

[@valeriofabrizi3497]

@@kmawnster no kids should be able to do whatever they want if they get nanny'ed in everything they are gonna grow up not knowing how to do anything and be incredibly sensitive. Its stupid how this generation just babies their kids and when they grow up they are gonna struggle. Plus what's the worst thing thats gonna happen to your kid? my parents have never checked what i do online and nothing has ever happened to me. and no kid is stupid enough to go meet up with a pedophile in real life.

[@xenomaster7263]

*Makes mature content KZbin: We don’t do that, say goodbye to monetization. *Makes kids content KZbin: Say goodbye to most of your revenue, comments, and live streams! *Makes teens and/or for everyone content KZbin: A kid could click it if they really, really wanted to, so goodbye comments, streams, and most revenue anyways. *Scream, realizing there’s no way out of the pain that is coming to KZbin. KZbin: Your scream is comedic, and you didn’t say before hand it was for kids, *that’ll be 42k.*

[@TheAmazingKatz]

Good one 🤣😭

[@KPH101]

$42K for each video. I sure you have many.

[@EricksonMatree]

Lol so very true

[@VOLAIRE]

facts 101

[@Fire-Manz]

Remember people, this is the FTC not youtube's rule. Even though youtube was the one made the mistake. Please, comment today at; www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/10/22/2019-22940/the-federal-trade-commissions-implementation-of-the-childrens-online-privacy-protection-rule

[@dudeletsgonow]

It’s seems like youtube got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and are punishing creators for it

[@iancorzine]

...and creators and viewers will be paying the price. When you obtained your account from google, you signed an indemnification agreement. You have agreed that if YT is sued for your conduct, you owe YT any amounts they have to pay as a result of an FTC lawsuit. 😢

[@jebthepleb492]

“The dog did it”

[@concon6012]

Jeb The Pleb, that’ why my cmputer key are brken.

[@shanjudo4510]

@@iancorzine However the jurisdiction is USA only right? unless there are bilateral treaty agreements in place, thus Google will be running court cases and battles all over the world for 40k a pop...doesn't sound practical...

[@feralcyborggaming1531]

@@iancorzine so we're all basically screwed?

[@irisha3418]

Dear parents, We are not your childrens' babysitters so get KZbin Kids and stop putting people out of business. Signed,a lot of people

[@iancorzine]

I assure you that the parents could never watch over their children to prevent the type of data that is being taken from them. One digital marketer said “if most people understood how much data they lose every day, or could physically see it being taken, it would cause widespread outrage.” What the FTC is trying to do is- in theory- not a bad thing. But the heavy handed response and KZbin's apparent "self-destruct" response is extremely concerning. I'm not really sure how a lot of KZbin creators are supposed to continue. 😢

[@idliketosay]

Imagine if we owned our data and was allowed even a small slither of the revenue from that pie. Wow, we’d all be rich. Data is the new currency. These big companies just do want the masses to know. They are mining it from us like liquid gold, but we get no cut 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@indubarnwal8826]

@Random Gaming Well, that is not the dark side. That's the bright side!

[@pinkfluffy82]

"...a lot of people" Thats an understatement

[@bigalittlea5747]

Not really fair to blame all parents because some are actually shitty parents

[@ratfink9205]

How about this, let parents parent their kids and let them be liable for any harm that comes to their children because they use electronic devices to babysit?

[@AwesomeSpyro]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. This wouldn't be an issue if kids followed the rules and didn't make accounts of they're not 13. And this wouldn't happen if parents actually cared about what their kids do online. The problem is that the current parents didn't grow up with the internet so many of them aren't fully aware of these rules, but that still isn't an excuse.

[@erikburzinski8248]

Can someone tell me how this is not a 1st amendment violation from the FTC.

[@CrisURace]

Exactly!!!

[@Joeysnew532]

@Smurfette Did It then shouldn't it be Google being punished and not the content creators? If they are so easily able to tell when a child is watching KZbin then couldn't they just turn personalized ads of for those viewers?

[@malikhallsmith]

its different when its already happened. its different when most boomers dont know anything about internet cookies. you cant be ignorant to this because it goes further than just monitering what your kids watch. youre pretty much saying they shouldnt let kids watch youtube period. or pay for vpn. as much as i would like that you cant be ignorant to other peoples lives. this goes deeper than you are thinking...

[@smokeandmirrors6167]

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have steak because a baby can't chew it" -Mark Twain

[@EnglishwithVennila]

Very apt quote at this moment! How true!

[@BloodEdict]

“Censorship is to art as lynching is to justice.” ― Henry Louis Gates Jr

[@ScooterinAB]

This is not censorship.

[@heions3160]

@@ScooterinAB yes, it is.

[@ReshiLuna]

@@ScooterinAB um, yes it is. It's a *clear* violation of freedom of speech.

[@angelcharlie2012]

Isn't it the parents responsibility to monitor what their kids watch?

[@Golden100_]

It is. Unfortunately some parents don't give two shits expecting everyone to cater to their kids and not giving a rats ass if they take the creator's freedom to make what they want. This has been going on long before the internet and it has not and probably never will change.

[@K67-d8p]

And parents always using KZbin to fucking babysit their child

[@brandonthedestroyer1140]

Yeah no shit dude i agree

[@zeeker0315]

Ima Hobbit absolutely. Unfortunately, parents have become lazy

[@noodles1291]

Ima Hobbit its not about what they’re watching it’s the targeted ads on the videos and the collection of information on minors

[@scarysara9364]

I think *KZbin* is being rather ridiculous and going overboard with this whole erasing comments mess. Like for instance deleting comments on a video just because some random little kid walked by the camera; and was never seen again while their parent was filming and talking about some thing else, and doing it to kids cartoons such as *Arthur* and the *The Chipmunks* . I just wish that it would go back to the way it was before. : /

[@iancorzine]

I totally agree!! What the FTC is trying to do is- in theory- not a bad thing. But the heavy handed response and KZbin's apparent "self-destruct" response is extremely concerning. I'm not really sure how a lot of KZbin creators are supposed to continue. 😢

[@pesgamer4485]

Ok youtube you don't want me making money on your f*cking platform ....Eventhough I am 19 years old ...so I will work smarter nd harder ....For making 💰 another way ...By doing the right things ...Cuz you can have 1million vue on youtube but what about if I MAKE 1 MILLION CASH 😜😞😅😉😂

[@cobalt7248]

Yeah

[@justsomeguywhodoeswhathewa4591]

i think the most ironic part of all this, would be that the FTC, in order to determine if COPPA is necessary, would have to break their own rules to obtain information about children.

[@cobalt7248]

@@justsomeguywhodoeswhathewa4591 True

[@Somefool669]

Animated characters? Do the people who write this even know what hentai is?

[@iancorzine]

Right??? What the heck? The 10-factors could describe almost ANY video. Thanks for watching.

[@michaelsafol]

I once came across a Lego stop animation parody of 24. Under these rules it would be designated as kids content even though it had minifig characters shooting each other.

[@itsjustme2682]

I really doubt!

[@waantonproductions4186]

I guess it’s ok for them to start watching Higurashi, Another, and corpse party

[@kit_callie]

THANK YOU! I've been saying this from the start

[@korwynze6288]

so..because parents let their kids on youtube, we're now going to lose an entire platform?

[@iancorzine]

Well...that is one way to look at it. I think it goes deeper to the government who wants a piece of the money pie. But yes, I do think we are on the way to losing this platform. 👊😢

[@colephelps2405]

@@iancorzine 2020 elections dude..... it's political.....

[@mopar_dude9227]

cole phelps you do realize this goes back to 2013.

[@memegazer]

Everybody is at fault here. The parents for letting their kids watch KZbin instead of using the kids app KZbin for collecting data on those kids. And the content creators for trying to exploit those kids and make money off of them by advertising to them.

[@tjduprey]

It was always a flawed platform.

[@phipsart6424]

easy solution: i start to swear and show some violence in the background of my drawing tutorials. is this what they want?

[@iancorzine]

As long as you don't show anything that would be interesting to a child. If you are interested, I have an update to this story…watch my video I recently released. It explains A WHOLE LOT MORE. 😬 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y

[@YISTECH]

loll

[@sevenrue4754]

Lmao

[@somethingstuffguy4159]

@@iancorzine Exactly Next speedpaint is gonna be of a man doing taxes in monochrome

[@Boopandfriends]

PhipsArt don’t forget funeral sounds

[@Tree-vx5xq]

"you should consult a lawyer if you're confused" social media specialized lawyer: confused

[@draxvelo2788]

Lol so yt has loses their lentils

[@joanadams7014]

ShepGlu there’s way too much ambiguity in the Act. It’s very stupid and is going to cost creators their livelihood

[@FaithandNova]

@@joanadams7014 ppl should have prepared when KZbin took ads away for awhile over a yr ago.

[@aprilk1803]

This is insane. Isn’t this why they made KZbin kids????

[@iancorzine]

Yes, but kids are finding/lying their way onto real YT and that is what is causing the problem.

[@camelopardalis84]

@@iancorzine If I had a child who needed a phone I would simply either not make it a smartphone or make it completely impossible for the child to access the internet with that phone, if that were even technically possible. No child needs a smartphone for safety or to be able to reach their parents. And laptops etc. can either be locked away or be put in a room that is locked or the internet can be turned off on those devices as well, so your child who's at home alone can't watch everything and anything on the internet.

[@iforgor4597]

@@camelopardalis84 Or~ you could use restricted mode if on iPhone

[@awesomecubezombie5834]

@@camelopardalis84 i agree

[@camelopardalis84]

@@iforgor4597 Don't know what that does or if it can be switched into normal mode again by the child so I don't know if that would be enough.

[@RoboBlue2]

This all seems like a massive first amendment violation.

[@alexsiemers7898]

And 8th amendment

[@MarkStevensII]

The Partiot Act made the bill of rights subjective.

[@gamermapper]

First amendment is good, but second amendment should be deleted

[@zedg7473]

@@gamermapper 2nd amendments purpose is to protect the 1st, genius.

[@TheFox517]

@@gamermapper You just yeeted yourself into a giant political shitstorm. Good luck.

[@brielladc2172]

KZbin: hey, let's ruin creators' careers and make them lose 90% of their ad revenue so that they're poor yet we won't get fined by the FTC again! 😆 Me: *Why not just mark the users as under 13 and over 13 so that you know who to target personalized ads to? -_-*

[@ahmadnawawi5147]

Cause the kids lied about their ages.

[@arithmetic1938]

@@ahmadnawawi5147 that's there fault, not the creaters

[@Sw4lley]

@@arithmetic1938 no its the Platforms fault, they should have systems that prevent underage access. My thinking is Goverments should give everyone over 12 a unique passport code on their ID that Companys can just reference the Age from, only Age ofc. Then update that ID at 16 and 18 and 21. Account creation required and the ID to check the Age. But even Goverment wants that sweet Tax money from the Dataminers, so no way thats happening :D

[@jkopoulos8096]

GENIUS

[@walterkennedy9474]

@@Sw4lley basically national ID cards. Although, it just takes one kid’s older brother to give out his code and that whole system goes to heck.

[@hanadashi3910]

I remember that one scene from the Incredibles 2 "What are we teaching our kids?! " "To respect the law! " "even when the law is disrespectful?!"

[@hycenthia8677]

Omg ikr! 😫 This new law sucks tbh

[@ZION73082]

Incredibles 2 was woke garbage

[@theworldminusraphtheninjat4378]

i spend 30 min re watching this scene cuz it hits hard and it divine

[@tigerfestivals5137]

@@ZION73082 lol it is in no way woke garbage. Not as good as the original sure, but not woke or garbage

[@theexterminator8917]

The FTC found easy money and we are suffering because of it.

[@womanoftheozarks]

@Mr J Now you've hit the nail on the head. That's it exactly so they can once more take our rights and freedom to express and create. "Their" intended goal. Schools aren't giving children creative time anymore, the arts have been taken, so now the next step is no outside creativity allowed, because the government is spying on you and we will punish you if you get any outside creativity, you must become a zombie as "we" direct only!

[@KineticSymphony]

"Unfair" and "inappropriate" are nebulous terms that don't belong in the law. "Fraud" does. If the FTC protected us simply from fraud, I'd be fine. "Unfair and inappropriate" is just big brother protecting parents from themselves.

[@Noodlepunk]

Nanny state.

[@Cmdrduo02us]

It feels that the FTC is doing exactly what it is designed to protect US citizens against

[@Nidvex]

"We protect citizens from unfair and inappropriate practices by implicating unfair and inappropriate laws that are completely out of touch with reality."

[@kimames3347]

Predators. Bottom line.

[@idbuddy2184]

I think some people are forgetting the absolute vile marketing campaigns by two big cigarette companies, Marlboro and camel, where they used an animated camel and a rough tuff cowboy to market their product as "cool and manly" to hook an underage market. Coppa seems to be in the same vein but written by people both before the internet matured, and by people who dont fully understand the internet. Honestly if youtube wasnt guzzling cum by the metric ton they could have and should have put in a rating system similar to the esrb with clear guidelines

[@tillthebonecrus]

FTC: *sees an orange tie* "it must be for children"

[@SPICY_BEAR]

😅 good eye! Probably right, this'll be a "child appealing" vid? $43,000 fine!! 😱

[@ryanrapp1158]

One of the conditions for being a child video is “educational.” Even if he wasn’t wearing that orange tie this video is for children for educating on the law.

[@blue_musicals]

Ryan Rapp they also said bright colors are for kids. Orange is a bright color.

[@birdsmoo4694]

@@blue_musicals wait so if they just make their videos black and white...

[@adhennakbar4516]

See that human have eye, you know who have eye also? Children, so this channel also for children

[@KananIsMyBae]

2009: KZbin: Broadcast Yourself 2020: DeadTube: Supress Yourself 😧

[@KananIsMyBae]

@VelCrowd Exactly. As said before, we're content creators, not babysitters.

[@slagathor3604]

Random Sonic The Master hehe....DeadTube, I understood that reference

[@Nashi_likes_games]

Oh, so that's why that "Broadcast Yourself" part was removed

[@dontneg]

I'm 14 AnD tHiS iS dEeP.

[@DawingmanT900]

Look at how Susan Wojicki massacred my boy

[@somebodyonce6063]

COPPA now has a new nickname: RAY (Rob All KZbinrs)

[@iancorzine]

👊😂

[@mafu-omo]

This will be useful-

[@whoknows1447]

No no I got a better one: REOE - Ruin Everyone's Online Expirience

[@thischannelisnowobselete2807]

I got one! I call it, GROAY! (Get Rid Of All KZbinrs)

[@justasharkwithawig5848]

REL (Ruin Everyone’s Lives)

[@GreatSageCorban]

This is the same type of thing that killed Saturday morning cartoons.

[@noreehix5714]

I was thinking the same thing that’s when they started doing PSAs

[@felix0-014]

IKR!?! Back in the day, cartoon binges were limited to Saturdays. Now you can watch cartoons anytime and all day. It made TV consumption even worse!

[@waynesolo]

Yep.

[@ItsStanleyZ]

No wonder why I saw the "E/I" logos on some of the shows I used to watch on Saturday morning.

[@zs.69]

GreatSageCorban IM 9 *COUGH COUGH*

[@brendanblair64]

I don't make money, but losing out on comments genuinely breaks my heart.

[@iancorzine]

Yea, this is a shame. I really appreciate the comment forum.

[@primus0348]

Me too, comment I don’t mind, it’s the fine and the termination of channels that scares me

[@mindshockz]

Exactly the same for me dude! 😪

[@ShhheilaASMR]

I agree with this the most!! Communicating with my community is why i do this!

[@dontreadmyprofilepicpls7944]

@@iancorzine go to jail is what terrifies me the most.

[@MrKillroy26]

It’s also against the 8th amendment “Prohibits excessive fines and excessive bail, as well as cruel and unusual punishment”

[@Aracelerii]

BINGO! We should take this all the way to the president of the United States

[@flying_Night_slasher]

@@Aracelerii I hope Trump will help the reason he's not right now is that he's busy.

[@zafabulousarcaneus3509]

I was telling this to my friends earlier today

[@Veylon]

@@flying_Night_slasher Trump appointed the head of the FTC.

[@mr_h831]

Killjoy26 somebody take that to court. This is how you take these a holes down.

[@derektereve286]

So, basically KZbin screwed up and we're paying the price

[@choochlordbeats8882]

@Big Rhonda Ahhhh.. good ole Logan Paul😶

[@K67-d8p]

@Big Rhonda if youtube going down, they better take Logan Paul with them

[@Cyber-Hexagon]

Big Rhonda *Forest Sorry but you’re still rite, specially that dead boy was a man who was struggling with life.

[@reneelucero2923]

yep

[@TheBrettN]

No, KZbin has already paid their price. Now COPPA wants us to too.

[@al_x2138]

One week ago: "Holly shit the new Sonic design looks great! We even got more memes! 2020 is going to be a great year!" COPPA: *"I'm gonna stop you right there."*

[@Emppu_T.]

Sonic memes : demonized

[@UraFlight]

They simply want to bring us back to TV screens and cinemas

[@iancorzine]

You know, a lot of viewers have said that. Wouldn't that be a backwards step though?? I made a follow-up video to this one that explains A WHOLE LOT MORE about this whole COPPA mess. Here is the link if you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y

[@UraFlight]

Ian Corzine Thank you for the link

[@ProfessionalBugLover]

@@iancorzine *that’s the point*

[@quadren4]

This is like an abusive relationship, and the only winning move is to just leave.

[@user-be8oe3hj9i]

The only winning move is not to play at all.

[@akdriller8806]

Well stated, I'm going to start dismantling my channel today, I'm sure that since only my friends watch and those numbers are very low that I will be dumped as not financially viable anyway. At least I have a little time to save what I want before they dump my channel. I don't trust any of the entities running this farce. Vague rules and guidelines are there for a reason, loopholes to give them more latitude to mess with creators even if they think they are on top of it. If this lawyer isn't sure of it all ...... Good luck everyone, it was fun while it lasted.

[@ryanspencer6778]

Except you can't leave because the abuser owns the house you live in and you can't afford to move.

[@Trizic_]

@@akdriller8806 Same. Im gonna delete mines on December 31st if nothing changes for the better. It was fun while it lasted. On to Twitch i guess.

[@akdriller8806]

@@Trizic_ In the process right now, lots of memories goin in the trash! d:o/>

[@yugioh1870]

I can’t wait for cartoons like hazbin hotel to be flagged as “kids content”

[@Zer0C0re]

Makes me think that any and all private indie animation and videogame companies and groups will, all at once, go out of business and be sued for more than their worth. Who else is with me, and others here, that this is not just taking away our entertainment, but also ruining an industry and crushing people's chances of actually creating a stable career for themselves, to say nothing of the Constitutional Amendment violations going on?

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Grace Helbig oldtimer MyDamnChannel Bedtime Stories... vintage deliciousness

[@DonShacks]

Makes you wonder about Adult Swim -_-

[@arcticbull8845]

Abaddon wait until the kids get a load of Happy Tree Friends lol.

[@mikoartz5006]

@@96_stars22 uhh add a few more of these """""""""""""""""

[@greenstarlover1]

Don't most children use their parents account anyway? How the hell KZbin ever expect to solve that problem?

[@legendofhayden]

HERMAN Bell youtube’s guidelines require you to be at least 13 years old

[@WindowsEater]

You’re brave, kid.

[@BlueMoon34Team]

I'm 17 years old turning 18 in May.

[@zeroace4746]

@@BlueMoon34Team that's not a kid anymore tho

[@BlueMoon34Team]

@@zeroace4746 IK but I started YT when I was 11 LUL.

[@starism1]

I tried to start a channel and then coppa came.. and ruined LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

[@loveeninii]

SAME I HAD TO DELETE MY VIDEOS

[@toilyfe5985]

Have you seen the Roblox videos people have made?

[@womanwithanopinion1592]

Thats because your kid and have no business on youtube!

[@toilyfe5985]

@@womanwithanopinion1592 what?

[@ron3557]

@Canelo Cruz they dont protect kids, they ruin youtube lol

[@surrealentertainment]

Great video. I can't believe how vague everything the FTC says is. ALL of the criteria for a "child directed video" are super vague. As an animation channel that mainly focuses on content for older teens, COPPA is scary. Especially if we're gonna have our videos analysed by out-of-touch boomers who don't understand the myriad of nuances many of the videos on youtube have. Signed the petition and am writing up a message to the FTC now.

[@oyasumi.3713]

You go Surreal Entertainment!

[@mr.wik-e6001]

Love your content, man.

[@zoeziiiiiiii]

underrated comment

[@e11aguru]

I just want to say that I absolutely love your content and would hate to lose you. Good luck.

[@Sashimi_Boy2404]

Fvck boomers they should be dead already since they're petty old people who ruin everything and should die already. Complaining parents should be looking after their kids IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN NOT KZbin'S. If they really wanted to have children they should've understand the consequences of having a kid, they should have a child if they're not too busy with their job they should interact with their children and educate them very early instead giving them some damn electronics. My mom educated me even when I was an autistic baby. She took me to therapy and early education (I didn't go to preschool)

[@HowBigistheMap]

Jails will be full of KZbin creators who can't pay the fine

[@TheMegalusDoomslayer]

It's a good thing the U.S. has extradition treaties...

[@WhatLurksBeneath]

Debtors prison doesn't exist anymore. I'm not sure how the ones who can't pay the fines will work

[@blakeog2034]

@@WhatLurksBeneath ... uh have you heard of child support.. "doesn't exist" yeah ok

[@WhatLurksBeneath]

@@blakeog2034 Child Support is a whole other animal. I'm mainly talking about lawsuits, or other forms of accrued debt.

[@RC2214]

@@WhatLurksBeneath They would probably take away your house, car or antiques, put you out on the street

[@sandorsbox]

So basically they are saying that marking “not for kids” can be misleading but marking “for kids” when it’s really not is kosher. That seems a little backwards

[@iancorzine]

Yep.

[@Liquidcadmus]

@@iancorzine I already set my entire channel as "not for kids" in the settings. is that not enough? I don't know if I should worry about this.

[@Brynne221]

Liquidcadmus it is not enough. If you mark it “not for kids” but someone from KZbin or the FTC says it is, you still get fined.

[@Liquidcadmus]

@@Brynne221 it's insane, then there's no point in asking me if the video is for kids or not if they indiscriminately change it as they please. also the parameters they use to judge what is or not for kids seem to be extremely vague

[@BunnaySango]

Because they can strip away 99% of features for kid content and not the other way

[@chessgame3251]

Dear parents, internet is not for babysitting. Please take responsibility of you own production.

[@flariz4824]

"your own production" LMAO

[@lieffian]

Chess Game or don’t produce at all if you can’t monitor your kids

[@joshn2342323]

truth

[@Corderoy98]

Thank you

[@ayatorasu4819]

I watch my kids but all the helicopters ruined it for all the other parents who watch their kids. So now even the adults are suffering and now we are all going down with the ship.

[@CSparzo]

How about parents be responsible and monitor their own children? Whoa!

[@Aloysius_OHare]

Chris Sparzo Thats too crazy man. That suggestion almost blew up the whole earth.

[@karlt3026]

Chris Sparzo no, the government and private companies should monitor the children. (Sry my npc brain kicked in)

[@1slayer959]

Excuse me as I scoop the remains of my recently blown brain, from my lemon scented freshly cleaned carpet.

[@thefroglord257]

WoW wHaT A CrAZy IdEa, HoW oN EaRtH WouLd ThAT wORk.

[@catoticneutral]

Nope, they'd rather sanitize the whole internet because for some reason they think that's easier. It's like burning your house down to get rid of a spider when you could literally just put it outside.

[@Kuronosa]

Honestly, if I had a kid...i would PREFER the ads that are targeted to them, rather than have a commercial for beer, or condoms show up on the video my kid wanted to watch.

[@charanth182]

Haha I've had that issue with my kids! Rush to the phone to skip quickly!

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

my kid never watches ads... cuz Adblocker is a thing

[@felidaeunplugged8316]

I'm 18 and I'd rather have play-doh commercials when watching NerdECrafter than condom ads.

[@tiffanyhackerspace8377]

Or "Size matters, size matters, size matters" on the radio a few years back, with my 9-10yo in the car -_-

[@charanth182]

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS how do you ad block on the mobile app? Or a smart tv? Or chromecast?

[@ephemeralmoonn]

KZbin; Taking the “You” out of it!

[@CelicaSNC]

More like GovTube.

[@fijaystudio]

LMAO

[@KittyKat-tr2fl]

Tube

[@payme4385]

Coppa; Steals the cookies

[@circusyeet4118]

MoneyTube

[@AmazingDinosaurs]

Coppa has destroyed my KZbin Kids toy channel WD Toys. Revenue is down more than 50% from Last Year. This is my full time job and I support my 6 kids ages 3-12 with my channel. Now I don't know how I am going to pay my bills.

[@sawdustsprinkles6954]

How is it now? Still down?

[@christaladeline6490]

They don't deserve that money

[@SarukoKun]

Hey I know you

[@frankwest8694]

You guys should take out some loans

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

2019: Try to remain family friendly to keep monetization. 2020: Drop F-Bombs in first 10 seconds to keep from getting hit by FTC.

[@MikkiRose129]

That was literally was I was thinking. "Alrighty, let's just get this outta the way... F*** F*** F*****ty F*** F*** F***, and now on with the video!!" 😂😂

[@BanditFlashpoint]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@hellacia8151]

KZbin: *demonitized.* Also the FTC can look at the thumbnail and conclude that it is kids' content inside.

[@HawkinaBox]

@@MikkiRose129 XD

[@hellacia8151]

@ColdplayFan360 RollerCoasterFreak That's a demonitization right there

[@BrandyDerg]

KZbin 2020: Unless your a celebrity don't even bother creating.

[@LetsbeFrank38]

CorpTube now, they love the big media companies putting videos on their site.

[@johnellison3030]

@@LetsbeFrank38 So true. I think that you've hit the nail on the head.

[@judsongaiden9878]

Fancy meeting you here! It's me (Iggy).

[@dankykang9527]

T-Series rises Nooooooooooooo R.I.P. Pewds

[@JNoMooreNumbers]

I blocked a Kardashian suggestion on my feed. They are nothing to me. Fake rich people known for who knows what. If I wanted celebrities, I'd get cable again. Cut the cable cord about 10 years ago.

[@redfeildre349]

When you hear a politician say "Let's do it for the children" watch your rights and your wallet because they are after one, the other, or both.

[@AsToldByDoll]

Redfeild RE kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKXRmHRmZ5irb8k

[@gefagnis]

Exactly

[@lpsfanaticfilms7173]

More like "lets do it for the money!"

[@ralphcronin]

I see KZbin has it's contacts and meetings with several different authorities, and therefore it is a challenge to provide a good solution to protect children under the influences of the capitalistic world, where the provider of content for jung people have to get their income thru publications. As a musician playing improvised piano in styles of Keith J. , I would not get a worse bill to pay anyway, but I also like to do programming. So my idea is to build a new platform, where the kids can watch a video and until they are in the age of an adult, the list of watched content is transmitted to the parents, containing the answeres of any optional additions like contests in from of checklist. So in forms of teaching content the parents could see the efford in summary of their offspring. On a base of free will, they would have the choice of donate "for the good results" or give other feedback. There might be a point where creators can decide, that the parents need to pay a small amount bevore the kid can go to the site next time. ( A hell to code it seamlessly - but those affords I like to struggle with. On the other side I think, there's need of inverstors for the servers. My personal problem at the moment is being in Germany as a British Citizen without any passport , income , registered as homeless and have this room on courtesy bases till I can get a trolley standing around ) Thats how I play= kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH_Yq3enjp6fl7M Would kids like it ?

[@jupitersfamily286]

raise your hand if you’re a NEW youtuber!! 🗣🙋‍♀️

[@iancorzine]

🤔

[@arithmetic1938]

I just started. Mainly game dev videos. Actually no, I made videos in the past, but as of right now, I'm trying to actually do it.

[@Shrek_Now_go_away]

I'm new

[@antiito2383]

🙋‍♂️

[@christaladeline6490]

@@iancorzine I am make sure to sub I started KZbin in 2020!!!

[@phile5437]

Man, who was the guy who said Chinese style censorship was coming to America?

[@blackturbine]

Just wait few year's and there will be mass execution of people with different opinion

[@starling1226]

George Orwell?

[@StormChasingNinja]

Probably Paul Joseph Watson

[@williamhuynh869]

All blizzard critics

[@sourpuss5951]

South Park creators?

[@TEENYcharma]

KZbin wants you to be kid friendly, now you have to avoid being kid friendly

[@jango8472]

@Elizabeth Chule KZbin is the one who broke the law in the first place

[@w_hle3828]

@Elizabeth Chule All youtube has to do is just *not* track anybody, yes? That's what I'm getting, at least.

[@baron4718]

@@w_hle3828 But that would mean no monetization, which would leave hundreds of KZbinrs jobless...

[@dzp11177]

KZbin wants you to do BOTH

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

They had KZbin kids but actually never pushed the app and forgot about it

[@乞丐龍]

Old KZbin -Content everywhere KZbin now-- hentai Content everywhere :))

[@iancorzine]

😬

[@ayrshireman94]

The internet is for p0rn!

[@jockdouglass3824]

Yeah this sucks

[@tornadomimicyclone6707]

Actually, the hentai will likely get removed quickly KZbin now - Content nowhere.

[@thatdinocalledvk5273]

Eventually, children would be treated as unwanted leeches if this law is implemented. It’s a lose-lose situation. Creators lose money or get sued for $42530, and children get exposed to non-kid friendly content, as well as get mass attacked and cyberbullied. Besides that, I have a few questions that I felt have not been covered about this issue. How would this affect international creators? How is it possible that they get sued by AMERICAN law? I don’t know how politics work, but there’s something wrong there.

[@Charmander009]

I see it already . People are critizing children on every channel comment section. If the content creator is in another country , they would just terminate their account

[@user-be8oe3hj9i]

They already are unwanted leeches.

[@raysyndrome7209]

I hated kids before, but now its personal 😠

[@BlackDragon41sbm]

@@raysyndrome7209 don't hate kids because they are immature and learn from bad influences. We were all kids once. It's the parents who don't care enough and hand them the phone to silence a child instead of showing patience and dealing with corrective behavior and or punishment. My niece is 5 years old and is glued daily to KZbin now because of her caretakers who were too impatient and irritable to be real guardians. She's been raised like this for 2 years now, I have no say to fix it but I know what the problem is, its irresponsible people to blame.

[@Hibernial]

I don’t really consider myself an avid constitutionalist. But I’m pretty sure the FTC enforcing $42,000 fines upon users on social media platforms, including but not limited to KZbin, breaks the 8th amendment’s restriction of federal powers in imposing exorbitant fines for unclear reasons. COPPA conflates web cookies with private and personal data. Data that's site traffic isn't the same as dated hosted and stored on emailing and banking accounts. Advertisers aren't breaking laws. Advertisers aren't the same as invasive downloadable spyware which sifts through and collects data on a person's PC, no their web traffic. Obscuring cookies with private data is baseless and bunk, in all honesty: And done so on purpose through the FTC's rewriting of COPPA, without anyone's consent or knowledge of such, in order to have a reason to prosecute and fine people in court. The FTC imposing a fine by threatening lawsuits taken into US federal court is nothing but a criminal racket. It's extortion and theft. The 8'th amendment is violated. FTC's lawsuit shouldn't legally stand in court, at all.

[@Nathan_Coley]

KZbin: "Ads will still be on kids' content but we will take all of that revenue."

[@shanemartin31]

KZbin kids was made for kid and this is KZbin not KZbin kid’s

[@tinman6182]

Exactly

[@goat4298]

Sounds like the parents have failed to pay attention what their children look up online so now KZbin and the creators are taking the blame.

[@lyriczamor2896]

Yes this dumb af

[@beanie_demonx3207]

You are so right

[@SomeRandomPiggo]

holy shit so true i forgot about youtube kids

[@natnael8484]

Well this is America. Parents can’t monitor Their Kids right so everyone will suffer for it🤮

[@speakrighttogod]

It's not parents"can't," it's parents by and large "DON'T" monitor their children's online activity. Overall, children have WAY TOO MUCH/TOO EASY access to things that they shouldn't. A LOT of damage has been done, and is manifested in so many ways. Children also know when their parents are 'caught up' and don't really attend to their doings. And they (children) surely think that they are 'free' to let it all out on social media (with their secret/not-so-secret accounts) and they DO!!!

[@michael_betts]

I remember watching stuff on youtube as a young teen in the mid 2000s, and my parents would go through my hostory, and make sure I wasnt watching anything bad, they would also pre-screen movies until I was around 13-15. Its unfortunaye that most parents want to pass this job off to the government which will be always ham fisted.

[@speakrighttogod]

@@michael_betts Yes, someone in the comments said he was watching (and lost innocence) porn at age 11, online. Other corrupt influences include some of a child's friends, who introduce them to filth (at sleepovers, outings, friends' homes, etc.). So sad!!! Plugs-wifi-data-enabled devices have defied the floodgates of corruption thus making it all so easy to access. Can't turn the clock back, but I do wish I could have had access to word processing on a computer in high school/college in the seventies. Papers could have been done SO MUCH FASTER!!

[@ITIsFunnyDamnIT]

WatchPeopleDieInside even without kids the government has been wanting to censor us all. They would of found another way to censor us. The government doesn't want it's citizens to have freedom of expression

[@Wedeemgaming]

true!

[@hhaydn3514]

it’s so cool to see someone who’s an actual professional take their time to defend KZbin, instead of some person who just made up information to ‘support their theory..’ 🙃🙃

[@Yesffg]

I feel like this is also KZbin's fault for only making it possible to make money by being "family friendly" but yet making the platform "13+"

[@justmonika9936]

Johanna Morales, it is KZbin’s fault!

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

This is much bigger than you/we think. KZbin and Google, among others, are absolute psychopaths that control the population of the whole globe.

[@slowfudgeballs9517]

KZbin literally says to get monetized that you need to have videos friendly to people 13 or under. Then right next to that it says to avoid coppa by not making videos that appeal to people 13 and under.

[@LokitheSiberian]

How is this even enforceable? They are going to decide what is and isn’t for kids based on entirely subjective assessment? That’s necessarily unfair.

[@lillia_venitaes3351]

Thats the law for you

[@ferociousgumby]

Bankrupted for posting a picture of a bunny rabbit.

[@PlumBlossomCat]

Their list of what is considered for child audiences isn’t even specific!

[@kanjosidr]

I have to say your dog is adorable

[@fluffybuttcentral]

I think the better question is, "Who couldn't it be enforced against?" Unfortunately, I'm guessing that's the point. It's far too subjective to really exclude anyone, which means they could bring in a lot of money with those fines. I've considered trying to build a channel for my four huskies, but never mind. There's no point. Pet videos would definitely be attractive to children, but, if there's no chance of building a community, what's the incentive? All that effort for nothing? Nah.

[@averagejoe455]

KZbin had porn on it when it first came out. They were never pretending to be a kid's site. Average user age is 25 and above. The FTC is so outdated.

[@masseiy]

I've been using KZbin since I was a kid and I knew when content was not good for me and clicked away because my parents actually parented.

[@iancorzine]

Not all kids are as fortunate as you are. I hope you tell your parents that. 🙂 If you are interested, I have an update to this story…watch my video I recently released. It explains A WHOLE LOT MORE. 😬 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y

[@xmoonilyx2977]

Same i was innacent till i went to a different school where ey were... different. Other wise i was pure and i good kid on KZbin

[@adraingaming9825]

My friends introduced me too youtube if they didn’t I would of been fine!

[@brielladc2172]

100th like!

[@dakingofyeet4541]

It's fine if you let kids on KZbin as long as you get it into them that *You* are in charge.

[@hackthis1767]

so why isnt Facebook taking flack over this there site is filled with add targeting and minors which the ecosystem is intertwined into the same platform everyone else uses

[@iancorzine]

Good question. I assume they will get their chance soon. 😬

[@darudebird3217]

yeah. but in the end literally every website will stop existing

[@mikochild2]

Parents are the ones giving the phones and the tablets to the kids and putting it on youtube...

[@mikochild2]

@Planet Claire Has Big Hair ok, so I don't see the problem. Creators should not suffer for that. There are all kinds of choices parents could have made. For example, the Amazom playtime app has a feature where you can approve or block video content for children. It's only $3 monthly. Let KZbin pay the fines, not creators.

[@themanthemyththelegend1392]

Yep, because it’s easy to pull up baby shark......

[@ScottishForce]

Yea but you have KZbin kids🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mikochild2]

@@ScottishForce which is also new and still a parent's choice to pull it up. And older kids under 13 understand well enough how to create an account that says they're older than 13. Either way, this isn't on the creators or KZbin

[@ScottishForce]

@@mikochild2 parents safer choice

[@RexoryByzaboo]

I already read COPPA rules in ftc.gov, often. In FAQ page there's a question, "Am I responsible to kids users who lied about their ages?". And the answer is "NO." Where's ur brain, YT?

[@iancorzine]

It's totally messed up. 👊😬

[@hygrifkrrshinavask949]

Flew away into galaxy, far far away

[@abdulazizal-omari8377]

You can't even have an account unless your 13 or over so the only way for kids to watch it is to lie about your age.

[@thischannelisnowobselete2807]

It's gone. It melted away.

[@TheDel4873]

@@abdulazizal-omari8377 I did that when I was 11

[@MCrknight777]

Parents should take some responsibility and monitor their children. Why do parents always put the blame on others when there is literally an app called " youtube kids."

[@stonedsavage7814]

The kids app is still connected to youtube main though which sucks.

[@lieffian]

manuel cano they don’t wanna admit they are bad parents

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

The spiderman and else videos exist

[@denischabriddell986]

I really don't care for KZbin kids. With that being said I watch KZbin with my grandchildren so I know what it is that they are watching.

[@LisaCapron]

I hate KZbin kids. The videos are awful. I’d much rather just have my kids watch videos we enjoy together with me right there. It’s called parenting. The government should keep the eff out.

[@TpyoQueen]

Pffft. Smells like Disney is behind this mess. The timing of Disney Plus is impeccable.

[@iancorzine]

Hmmm....I'll have to think about it. Are you saying they are trying to shut down YT for kids so kids will have to forced to watch Disney Plus?? This is an interesting idea. Thanks for making me think on a Thursday morning. 👊😮

[@mavisdom-animeonpiano]

Omg that makes sense

[@mercuryshadow09]

@@iancorzine I think it's more to do with free content, I'm sure the way streaming services see things, KZbin is cutting into their revenue because right now it offers free content.

[@mercuryshadow09]

KZbin offers free movies with ads.

[@toons8744]

Ehhhhhhhh Idk about that. Disney makes plenty of money on YT ads too, Frozen and their other stuff is everywhere on this site. Im not entirely debating it but it sounds unlikely

[@TheCyclingArtist]

soccer moms ruining the internet since 2019.

[@CarrWatt1]

COPPA is not about the kids, it's about ending Free Speech, the left is so worried about 2020 and socialism, they will stop and nothing!

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

1980 satanic panic

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

@@CarrWatt1 go back to 4 chan and 8 kun, troll

[@keithmccormack6248]

SheWhoWalksAlone Exactly! But let’s not leave out of this the Jewish neocons controlling the right.

[@tsunsu]

Prety much yes

[@koalafan1576]

Children shouldn’t be on the Internet without their parents supervision anyway. Blame the parents. Simple fact!

[@memegazer]

Everybody is at fault here. The parents for letting their kids watch KZbin instead of using the kids app KZbin for collecting data on those kids. And the content creators for trying to exploit those kids and make money off of them by advertising to them.

[@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts]

Bombastic Balloon that’s such bullshit, I say hold parents accountable & don’t expect youtube to be your kids baby sitter!! The worst part is now we are all thinking & strategizing ways to make our content more adult meanwhile kids are still gonna pick up their parents phones & watch then what? Patents are gonna blame us??? I’m so flipping mad about this!!!!! 😤😤😬😤😭😰😭

[@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts]

Btw I wasn’t disagreeing I’m just saying it sucks that’s how it is 😕

[@taytensmith2451]

@@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts Well even still, Parents have other things to do besides watch kids. That is why limitations should be put on kids with phones and access to the internet or don't let them access at all. If it were the other way around, parents would complain too bc they are in trouble bc they have a job, sleep, bills, and other family matters, and so on to take care.

[@hiperanic]

Eastrise if they don't have the time for kids, then why have them in the first place?

[@AndySaenz]

“Kids 13 years or older...” Hell, some adults still behave like kids. 😂

[@illegalalien6542]

My grandfather LMAO

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Sausages!

[@electronresonator8882]

image those "kids" are making babies....how they parenting skill would look like

[@Freakachu_42]

According to COPPA, South Park is Kids content.

[@Sndwhikmsic]

Freakachu42LetsPlays and, Hentia. Furries are also allowed

[@koish1864]

Hazbin Hotel

[@JoJo-tm6ty]

So is gta v, jc3, and rick and morty

[@annetteslife]

So is Beavis and Butthead, the Simpsons, and Ren and Stimpy

[@BrokenMedic]

Only if they are collecting the kids info.

[@sgtggp]

Rule of thumb, Government never passes up opportunities to collect money.

[@iancorzine]

That is my thought exactly @sgtggp. If you are interested, I have an update to this story…watch my video I recently released. It explains A WHOLE LOT MORE. 😬 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y

[@rogerlavender01]

This is all about “cookies”.... content creators DO NOT own/create/manage/program cookies..... Spread the word. This is about the internet companies not content creators.

[@yliberal6355]

Roger Lavender Absolutely correct!

[@yliberal6355]

jocaguz18 Exactly!

[@412vw6]

Eliminating the competition because thier content is deluted by real creators

[@underwaterdick]

Yes, but too many people on KZbin have made videos about this topic using 3rd/4th hand information with no knowledge on the subject. So the world is going into meltdown. It is KZbin/Google who are responsible for ensuring that children's data is not taken. I can imagine, of you don't label a video they will just boot you off the platform. I don't think the FTC will or can go after a content creator, seeing as YOU are not the one taking or selling their data, only making money from monetisation based on this sale. The easy solution for people is not to moan, but leave the platform. Or stay and stay within the rules that Google/KZbin outline. - it isn't the drama people make out.

[@JudgmentStorm]

Exactly that. Why should content creators have to be the ones who suffer for Google's error? The onus should be solely on Google.

[@ChrisHolman]

How about parents actually parent their kids and monitor what they watch!

[@ncrawford5673]

Yeah, only Terrible parents don't monitor what their kids watch. Like stop using KZbin to babysit your kid

[@raena126]

That's what I was thinking too.

[@longlostwraith5106]

Hahahahahahah

[@snowfallss]

@HERMAN Bell If your under 13 which is what's classed as a kid / child you shouldn't even have a youtube account

[@memegazer]

Everybody is at fault here. The parents for letting their kids watch KZbin instead of using the kids app KZbin for collecting data on those kids. And the content creators for trying to exploit those kids and make money off of them by advertising to them.

[@nothatswrong1049]

I was taught what predators were at twelve. I was taught not to trust anyone on the internet at twelve. I was told not to enter my personal information in a shady sight at *twelve.* The parents need to ban their kids off the internet if they are gullible. They need to teach them stuff if they want to be on the internet. They need to monitor them on the internet if they are under 12/13. We are NOT their baby sitters.

[@jenniferhaley9582]

Everyone is going to leave KZbin because of this.

[@VicBaws]

If there's no solution, yes

[@primarinegaming6761]

Jennifer Haley Ninja’s on Mixer so he should be fine at least but also think about this: doesn’t this mean all companies like Nintendo and Sony will leave KZbin also? Will all game trailers be on TV?

[@Kohchu]

@@primarinegaming6761 Contrary to popular belief, there are other websites dedicated to videos; such as Dailymotion. The issue is, none of them are as large and well known as KZbin. At the end of the day, if KZbin does go through with this, it'll only be a matter of time until a new platform will be found for people to upload without fear of being sued.

[@LemonnNote]

I already left

[@euler4513]

To where?

[@xenxander]

don't forget "don't hug me, I'm scared" which seems like a child video but isn't. It's a hyperbole.

[@zzdesolatezz]

I was thinking of that too.

[@hunter-xp3nu]

It's sad how so much creativity will be destroyed by this

[@Kxpture]

Xen Xander i just looked it up and i’m guessing it isn’t for kids but by first look it looks like a video for kids... there fucked.

[@thewalkingbread706]

And Hazbin Hotel, Happy Tree Friends, and any animation channel with cartoons aimed at adults

[@zzdesolatezz]

@@hunter-xp3nu so... where do we go to next? I'm afraid with nothing interesting to watch that I might actually become productive lol. No but seriously, this does suck doesn't it...

[@Moodymongul]

6:06 - That is what we call a 'shake down' for money by the advocacy groups. They've obviously been taking lessons from Al Sharpton ;-)

[@iancorzine]

Ha!! Thank you for a good laugh. Unfortunately, it's not over. If you are interested, I have an update to this story…watch my video I recently released. It explains A WHOLE LOT MORE. 😬 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y

[@chiloveschilde]

KZbin 2017: NO +18 CONTENT OR YOU'LL GET A STRIKE. KZbin 2019: NO KIDS CONTENT OR YOU'LL LOSE COMMUNITY TAB, ETC. AND IF YOU LIE YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY $42K. (Atleast that's how understand this COPPA thing-)

[@dawnbringer7418]

•Yui Fxjoshi• pretty much

[@whiskeyblack806]

I'm not even a creator but as a viewer, this enrages me!

[@iancorzine]

Make sure you sign the petition. Please and thank you: www.change.org/p/youtubers-and-viewers-unite-against-ftc-regulation

[@keithmccormack6248]

Ian Corzine Sorry, Ian, that petition is not strong enough. The 2013 amendment to COPPA needs to be abolished-plain and simple . . . And the FTC along with it! 😉

[@TheSEAempire]

Whiskey Black I am a creator and viewer, and I am fucking livid!

[@westonkenyonmusic]

I make squat on KZbin, but this is scary because of all the great content creators I watch.

[@kevintee7445]

2016 KZbin: Make kid/family-friendly content! 2019 KZbin: DON'T make kid/family-friendly content! KZbinrs to KZbin: What content are we not allowed to make anymore to stay compliant with COPPA? KZbin + FTC: Yes

[@triton6490]

I actually laughed

[@mafu-omo]

KZbin 2020 : Don‘t make kids content KZbin 2030 : Don‘t make content KZbin 2040 : Don’t make KZbin 2050 : *D O N ’ T* (Totally not scripted-)

[@Junksization]

Are you basically telling me that the whole internet is gonna change because of stupid parents?

[@devedee2393]

yesh

[@meek981]

No. Because KZbin collected data on children under the age of 13. Not the parent's fault. Edit: Please shut the fuck up, yes the parents are at fault for letting their child onto KZbin but it's not like they knew their child was being monitored which ended up getting KZbin fucking sewed because of that monitoring.

[@kyrauk]

There's two sides to this coin. The side of Google collecting Data on children under 13 knowingly and illegally. And the side of parents who allowed their under 13s access in the first place. So it's actually both big corp and stupid parents, but mostly big corp for being greedy in this case.

[@meek981]

@@kyrauk Sure it's the parents fault but no matter what there was always going to be parents who relied on KZbin to entertain their child. So for the most part it's KZbin's fault because they were aware of this yet they still advertised personalized ads to the children.

[@kyrauk]

@@meek981 Pretty much what I said XD KZbin/Google are far more in the wrong in this case.

[@lpsfairylightz6468]

''animated characters are for kids'' so hentai is for kids, *you know what ok-*

[@iancorzine]

Under the FTC's factors, animation could be considered child's content. So, I hate to say it, but you take a risk when you publish animation on YT.

[@lpsfairylightz6468]

@@iancorzine Its really sad. Lots of animation channels will stop uploading. And animated series for adults will also be affected, like hazbin hotel. Hazbinhotel is a GREAT show but it IS animated, even though theres sex and drug refrences everywhere, its still ''for kids'' under coppas law.

[@CosmosStarTaker]

ok Wha-

[@Zexceeda]

Ok sure... looks intently at Berserk.

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

Kid directed 18+ video. "USA has First Amendment". Just a friendly reminder.

[@blancolirio]

Excellent presentation! Thanks for posting.

[@iancorzine]

You are so welcome!! Thank you for watching. I made a follow-up video to this one that explains A WHOLE LOT MORE about this whole COPPA mess. Here is the link if you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjRp52reLmVa5Y 👊😬

[@noushkq]

@@iancorzine thanks you!

[@kerimagac389]

@@iancorzine bu vvvd v5

[@carolinabuelvas8971]

???

[@alfredrestituyo3117]

@@iancorzine el trabajo que me

[@21boyss49]

unpopular opinion : why not use youtube kids? like directly send the kids to youtube kids? :l

[@stonedsavage7814]

Still tied to youtube main though.

[@hindia-7894]

Maybe this is right, and they can show channels that made for kids only

[@tmck4138]

Because for the group that’s 8-13, KZbin kids doesn’t include markiplier, jacksepticeye, and Jake Paul (since we all know that his viewer are all under 13)

[@myusatj9281]

My little brothers used to have freedom on KZbin. I would catch my youngest brother looking at weird "kids" channels and snatch the table away beCAUSE WHY WOULD YOU LOOK AT THOSE WEIRD CGI ANIMATIONS!? I'd put on something more appealing to the eye like Peppa pig or Ryan's toy review. My step mom didn't like what my second lil bro was watching so he had his whole tablet snatched. I guess there was cussing? Idk. Btw, the youngest was on kids yt but still didn't save him :)

[@Lilpizzahut1927]

I know it's kind of dumb there's KZbin kids for a reason

[@ScribbleBeats]

So basically: We (parents) gave up freedom in the name of security, and laws get passed they /think/ they want and the people that wanted those laws get penalized. Nice!

[@keithmccormack6248]

That seems to be the way it works with big government doesn’t it?

[@ScribbleBeats]

@@keithmccormack6248 We (the people) kinda asked for this.

[@keithmccormack6248]

Trinity Fox Since when is a group of children’s advocacy groups we the people?

[@mopar_dude9227]

Trinity Fox what freedom did you give up?

[@karenbonds264]

Oh, gawl...Is...is KZbin going Communist?!

[@agentvw1vsprojectzorgonewy715]

I've said this for years. KZbin never respected its creators. The entity that gives the platform life. Without us, there is nothing

[@RealmsCrossMyths]

"Animated characters" Hello, COPPA. **Happy Tree Friends** would like a moment with you.

[@cryppi1510]

As well as Hazbin Hotel, Harley Quinn, Futurama, etc etc.,

[@jacobmonks3722]

Ahem, SOUTH PARK was made before COPPA. And somehow there is still this stigma that animation is only for kids. This just boggles my mind.

[@techno_jokester]

As well as Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared.

[@irritatedlibrarian9057]

Rick and Morty would like to chime in. Well, mainly Rick.

[@flippyfox5880]

Satellite City, Dragon Ball Z Abridged, anything made by Mondo Media, and anything made by Vivziepop could be gone if this goes through.

[@paulwhite760]

it is not just kids' creators , it's everyone the establishment doesnt like.

[@goclunker]

Paul White mainstream media is behind the curtains pulling in the ftc strings. They want control and revenue back

[@monster678ful72]

Agree at coppa is making KZbin worst and everyone needs to make money because of coppa really sucks and the one thing at KZbin is for everyone at make money

[@OGRH]

He didn’t like your comment because he works for KZbin! Let that sink in!

[@saintedjedi]

@@monster678ful72 I agree with you on that like come on there's a KZbin kids app for a reason

[@BubblyBibleGirl]

THANK YOU for this video!!! ♥ *I left this comment on the petition:* My 6th child is recently learning her ABC's and other preschool related subjects. This change has inhibited me from making playlists of each subject (examples: One letter of the alphabet, Sign Language, or potty training songs) that HELP me to EDUCATE my child. I am not able to do this with KZbin Kids. If these channels made for my child can no longer make revenue for their hard work, then SO MANY CHILDREN will lose the ability to learn in fun ways! :( Personalized ads (for toys, games, etc.) towards MY child (who has MY permission to watch content on MY channel) is MUCH BETTER than the MATURE ads that I'd prefer her NOT to see. This "protection act" is NOT protecting my child. I'm having to protect my child from the unpersonalized MATURE ads that are now being exposed to her as a result of this change! I feel stripped of my right to parent my own child. Let me (the actual parent) determine what I let MY child watch. I hope you receive this well.

[@Nahtan]

the fact that it’s called youtube is so ironic now.

[@akeyrtainment8507]

True

[@whitechapel8959]

Yes but with technology and everything and the amount of people that know how to do programming KZbin is no longer a quarter horse pony show and if they show weakness and start to fall people just make a new program take over what KZbin was and just make another KZbin but with a different brand color scheme and name so if you to Falls another program will just pop right up and take over

[@weknowthetruth6863]

@@whitechapel8959 the FTC law applies to ALL WEBSITES idiot

[@crystalfranklin2583]

Downright hypocritical really. Should be TheirTube

[@izzyizzm8761]

JewTube iz more like it!

[@hydraulichydra8363]

2019: I AM THE WORST YEAR IN INTERNET HISTORY! 2020: HOLD MY BEER!

[@fiishdiish1480]

XD TRUEE

[@m7_peekm174]

Omg every year things get worst

[@robertomorales8751]

@@m7_peekm174 fr tho adpocalypes aas just the start

[@Kittyxoxo]

hold my mouse, laptop and keyboard... here take it all Youtbe T_T ....

[@asmrkimlee2633]

Just started a channel....BUT so many things happened on KZbin related to LAW!! 🤣

[@chefbennyj]

Isnt the key here the fact that children need express consent of their parents to access the internet? If the kid is on KZbin then the account would most likely be a parent account, and therefore mean that they have parental consent? Doesn't that protect content creators? The child has parental consent to be using KZbin and viewing the subject matter? It's on the parents, not the content creators. I don't let my kids in KZbin ever. This is all because of lazy parenting. You have to watch what your kids are viewing online.

[@iancorzine]

I have heard this from so many responsible parents. I agree, but of course the special interest groups think they can do a better job. 😢

[@thebubblygrandma3514]

I was coming to say this. If a parent is handing over whatever device to their child with KZbin activated then they are giving consent for their child to use it.

[@Zinkyeal]

Ftca dosnt care, they want control

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Oh come on, kids all have smartphones, in what year have you gone under a rock?

[@chefbennyj]

@@ronaldderooij1774 might be because I have younger kids that I haven't yet experienced that yet. But I still don't let them browse KZbin.

[@zulfphotography]

Hands down the best guy to tell us what this all means. Nicely done, can we all collectively hire this guy to take on the FTC

[@iancorzine]

Thank you so much Zulf. I appreciate that -- now let's sign that PETITION: www.change.org/p/youtubers-and-viewers-unite-against-ftc-regulation?recruiter=1015502725

[@iancorzine]

@@cosmicphoenix2006 I like the solution but the FTC has other plans -- it wants to punish Creators.

[@jedigrandmaster1773]

The TL;DR is, ignorant parents pushing their child care responsibility such as monitoring what they consume onto someone else, just so they can Netflix in peace.

[@switchunboxing]

Zulf Photography FTC ain’t a problem. They’re protecting kids.

[@caponebone4967]

@@iancorzine so the FTC wants to punish me for doing nothing wrong?

[@billscarnage]

I miss the days when cookies were delicious and home-made.

[@nicholastoo858]

billscarnage I’m eating cookies 🍪 🍪

[@ncrawford5673]

Well I made those cookies:🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[@twilighthairball]

Underrated comment

[@315katty]

Dairy free cookies for me sadly...even though I love dairy 😖😖😖

[@Yuseigo]

i had s'mores cookies a few days ago

[@TechRaccoonGG]

KZbin 2018: promotes family friendly content KZbin 2019: removes 60-90 percent of revenue for family free content Creators: aight I'ma head out

[@KTWEBS]

Yeah this makes no fucking sense it's ridiculous

[@JustDann]

Oh hey look, he's got a bright coloured tie on.. FTC: CHILDRENS CONTENT

[@bagobeans]

Nah, he needs tiny Sponge Bob prints on the tie.

[@Andypandieful]

Just Dann that’ll cost you 200,000. Pay up😩

[@bentosan]

Google shouldn’t be tracking the snot out of adults, let alone kids.

[@calvin6235]

Sorry to pop your bubble, but the other option is having it not be a free service.... and having to pay for everything with money. Right now they collect that data to assure advertisers they will advertise to the right people, thus they get paid and you dont have to spend a dollar to search on google etc, though if this bothers you this much... use duckduckgo.com as a search engine, on firefox as the browsing software, with protonmail instead of gmail and dont use facebook or any other social media, or any website that uses ads. The only worrisome thing google does is they also sell your emails to whoever as "anonymous" information.

[@BlackDaddy]

@@calvin6235 you can't tell me they are not a 501 (c)3 government funded company that gets subsidies so I am pretty sure they get plenty of help from other corporations ends without the need for our resources

[@jfacts49]

Black Daddy Google is not a 501(c)(3), what the hell are you talking about?

[@calvin6235]

@@BlackDaddy Google still pays taxes, and makes their revenue through advertising, that is their whole business model. I have no clue where you got the idea of them being funded by the government, 2nd, yes they do get money from other corporations, the corporations that paid them to advertise their company/product to people... and google can ask more money due to them being able to show those advertisements to the right people.

[@xMckingwill]

I hope you realize many website explicitly states they use cookies right? You probs just ignored that.

[@SonicGamerGirl2006]

I feel betrayed by KZbin... I really do. I LOVE watching KZbin videos, and seeing KZbin's new COPPA compliant policies almost made me quit watching KZbin videos for good. I HATE it... I really hate it. What's even worse is that the fine that you have to pay for breaking the law is just inconsiderate, ESPECIALLY for those who are poor. I feel humiliated and disgusted by KZbin's new rules. First, I need to get this out of the way... Mario is NOT just for kids. Sonic the Hedgehog is NOT just for kids (it never was, actually...). Most importantly, Kirby is DEFINITELY NOT just for kids despite having bright colors and cheerful looks; therefore, looks can be deceiving, as there are MANY dark moments in the video game franchise. I also need to point out that LEGO is NOT just for kids either. Heck, I've been collecting LEGO for nearly 15 years, and I still collect them. I watch LEGO videos on KZbin to gain ideas on what to build. I have no idea why most LEGO KZbinrs marked their channels as "made for kids" when really, LEGO is specifically made for everyone, NOT just kids. The new policy created by KZbin to comply with COPPA really gets under my skin. I really wish KZbin made a better strategy to comply with COPPA so that we don't get in trouble, but sadly, this is what we get, and now I'm ticked off. Yeah, it's been 6 months ever since it was put into effect, and I am still incredibly bitter about it. I still talk about it in anger and disgust, and man... I really wish we can go back in time and fix this issue, but since this is real-life, we can't and will have to live with it... :(

[@og_skullkid1387]

So virtually anyone they WANT to call a child content creator is one.

[@Xenotropos]

Pretty much, yes. The way it's written almost any video could be considered "kid friendly" and therefore content for kids. Even having an animated intro with just moving letters could "count", again, if someone interprets the new rules literally. I'm more concerned that some creators will accidentally mislabel a video and be financially ruined for that mistake. Will they fine only repeat "offenders"? Will they make an example of someone to prove a point? If you never monetize your video -thus you are not asking for ads or ad money- but KZbin plays ads before and/or after it automatically, does that still make you libel under COPPA? Apparently nobody knows. Here's a thought: how long until a kid uploads a video, doesn't mark it kid friendly, and gets a fine for it? Who pays then? The 8 year old? COPPA is a mess.

[@blue_musicals]

Yeah, basically. I concerned because on the document it says that words that kids use such as “cool” and “whatever” which a lot of young adults, teenagers, and others also say. They also include “bright colors” as something that would be considered as “for kids” they also suggest video games as for kids however a whole lot of adults also like. It’s just in general too vague.

[@Xenotropos]

@@blue_musicals I've got a couple of old videos on my channel that I made ages ago. I never bothered to monetize them as they're crap, but I wanted to keep them up for nostalgia's sake. I just went through and marked them as kids content to be safe, even though I never thought about my "audience" when I made them, and never intended to make money on them. I wonder how many abandoned channels have old forgotten vids on them made in grade school that could come back to bite the poster today? 'Tis nuts.

[@nicabuenafe]

Blue_Flash 4 Let's just say that there are bright colors in the video but there are also tools used that are dangerous and harmful for kids like scissors or cutters or even pointed knives will still be marked as made for kids, just because of the bright color thing? Just asking, because I am really confused.

[@lynnegillette5013]

I'm not a creator; however, I signed the petition. All my children use KZbin under my account. As a homeschooling mom, I use all kinds of KZbin videos. We also watch kid friendly videos as a family. I think the government need to get out of the parenting business....

[@TheLionheartcartoon]

Let me know if I got it straight: For having targetted ads to kids by getting their information and breaking the law, KZbin is forcing everyone (after a fined settlement) to make kids content on the basis that the Federal TRADE commission has proof that KZbin is actually watched by more and more kids. How did creators break the law? "not kids content" is not the same as "Gathering kid's information" via cookies, which seems to be the actual problem here. That's what I don't get. Throwing the creators to the wolf because youtube/google broke the law is utterly ludicrous. IF targetted ads or recommended videos is the problem, because of data collection, just stop THAT.

[@mopar_dude9227]

TheLionheartcartoon but the creators did not get fined, You Tube did. You Tube has now passed the responsibility onto the creators to not provide content directed to kids under the age of 13.

[@memegazer]

Everybody is at fault here. The parents for letting their kids watch KZbin instead of using the kids app KZbin for collecting data on those kids. And the content creators for trying to exploit those kids and make money off of them by advertising to them.

[@brece5452]

Meme Gazer, many creators aren’t trying to target children. Some do which is absolutely sick, however many you tubers get caught in this crossfire. The content creators create the content, KZbin targets those videos to children by collecting their data.

[@StingerStopMotion]

Just get rid of demonization then CUSSING ALL NIGHT BABY NO KIDS ALLOWED

[@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts]

Damn straight they owe every creator who has invested years into making a living, a community & a life using KZbin as a platform to access people all over the world. KZbin is the only “social media” I use, I have NO other accounts. These new rules mean I will lose not only comments on some of my own videos but entire communities I have grown to know, love & become a part of. KZbin was such an amazing to just be yourself & say whatever you think without anyone being able to stop you. This is an absolute travesty & they might not even stop here 😕

[@theicedevil]

The dumbest thing about all of this, is it's not going to protect the children, because they will watch the adult content anyway.

[@memegazer]

But they will not get targeted by ads.

[@kathrynrovito6855]

@@memegazer No, the important matter at hand is not that children won't be tracked, because KZbin has no technology or ability to tell who is under 13 or over aside from trusting that each account is telling the truth about their age. Any child who knows that saying they're under 13 online means they get punished will just lie and say they're older so they get away with it, and youtube has no way of legally finding out if they're telling the truth about their age. Not only that, but even if KZbin does have a good way to determine that (again, they never legally will), "child directed" content does not show up in suggestion feeds, it does not show up in youtube searches, and the videos cannot be found on the internet outside of manually going to a creator's channel and finding it there. Like what @theicedevil said, any and all "child directed" content will not be viewed by children because of this, ever, and I almost guarantee you that. And let me remind you, no ads on child friendly content means that the creators making that content receive almost nothing, nada, in revenue, since there are no ads and the video exists nowhere online except on their personal channel, which is tedious to access. What does this mean? Not only can't the videos marked "for kids" be seen by pretty much anyone, there is no incentive to make that content anymore, so, and I guarantee you, almost all of it will disappear. Over 90% of content on KZbin will become mature rated content if coppa gets passed as written right now, which puts everyone back at square one after ruining both the medium and the millions of lives who use youtube as a way to express their careers and passions.

[@paullindquist2744]

@@memegazer yes they will you dumb ass. Its non kid content that will get the target add and the kid ones that wont if they watch non kid content then they will still be targeted thats why this makes no scene the internet cant determine if you are a child or not so how do you enforce this law? By making everything that you think is for kid for kids like color and animation, Its to broad that could literally mean anything.

[@paullindquist2744]

i just noticed that this guy might be a bot and i went and replyed

[@memegazer]

@@kathrynrovito6855 If KZbin "did not have the technology to track kid data" they would not be in trouble for targeting specifically kids with ads. There would have been no proof in the FTC case and this would have just blown over.

[@DrewHowdenTech]

Coming back to this video in 2021, I remember that with all of this going on in late 2019 and early 2020, 2020 was supposed to be THE WORST year for KZbinrs (according to the KZbin community). However, looking back, 2020 actually ended up being one of, if not, the BEST year for KZbinrs. Just ask any KZbinr whose channel has really grown in 2020.

[@MidTeirHuman]

Isn't the reason KZbin made KZbin kids is for kids meaning that they should do a way better job at what they do

[@aa-sv4mq]

It's not KZbin's fault that kids are not using KZbin Kids, it's the parents' fault.

[@Flourikum]

@@aa-sv4mq it's on both. I'm not saying watch your kids 24/7 but at least attempt to give a damn when they are with you first before blaming everyone besides yourself.

[@badger_ninja8681]

How about a fine for putting an incorrect age to circumvent age requirements set in KZbin's tos you actually can not access the site without seeing the age 13 or up so they have no business here let me watch my children videos for shits a giggles life fucking sucks and the kids have alot of the mindlessly fun stuff that they can't pay for but I can

[@Graff-Art]

Well, it seems like the COPPA law is not effective in the EU. The KZbin terms in Europe clearly states that children under 13 is not allowed and under 18 needs parents approval. Furthermore it's stated that it's the parents who are responsible.

[@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258]

They can ban kids accounts from accessing normal KZbin app or website, very simple, what they are doing would not be necessary.

[@MightyMobileMatt]

This will ruin so many lives in a multitude of ways.

[@happycows]

Yup. I used to be a teacher on KZbin. I taught derivation and meshing skills for Autodesk software. But because avatars are normally used for display purposes I either had to label everything for kids or shut it all down. Guess what I did? Now students will be at a loss that went to me for help. That is not my problem anymore. I got rid of my entire teaching channel. I simply retained my videos on thumb drive since I put so much work into them to help people. I did not even monetize my videos. Now, on my main channel I have left I have to mark all my cat videos as kids only. It's definitely not worth anyone's time at this point. I will be searching for another place when I have time or look into my own website that does not run ads .

[@MightyMobileMatt]

@@hello-dz6hr Lets just hope this law doesn't come to pass, or to a lesser extent, pass with all of these out-of-the-world restrictions.

[@MightyMobileMatt]

If it were to pass, they would basically be killing off KZbin and a TON of websites gradually. Even the government should know how honestly stupid of a written law this is. If the worst were to happen, millions of people would lose their jobs/semi-jobs.

[@shipwreckedhannah9345]

Ghosted Gurl bro I don’t even know if ima get sued either! I don’t even know if it’s better to just delete my channel.

[@shipwreckedhannah9345]

Ghosted Gurl yeah I really hope they make a change and listen to everyone speaking up because this can effect the future of entertainment and gaming