NEW Peugeot e-2008 review - better than a Kia Niro EV? | What Car?

[@hishamg]

Nice car but pricey for what is basically a jacked up e208, and the wltp range is not as good as the Kona, Niro EV, and Renault Megane Etech which are around the same price. To compete with those it needs to be cheaper. I personally would wait for the price to come down or better still get it second hand in about 2 years time.

[@ISuperTed]

Well I drive an e208 so basically have a smaller brother of this. It’s a really nice car but as residuals are showing now it’s way over-priced and this refresh doesn’t change that one bit. Given you’ll be able to get a one year old for £23k in a years time I’m amazed anyone would buy this privately. Maybe they give huge discounts and low rate finance now?

[@rkhrd3211]

It's mostly being leased around here.

[@AppleUK2000]

OMG! It looks amazing like before! Full of allure and an unrivalled driving feel!

[@granfersteve3815]

The range is still small for the price of vehicle and no increased charging speed is not really much of an upgrade is it?

[@jdmguy44]

Looks very smart - as Peugeot products do these days. No interest in the EV version. Petrol version for me which is what I've ordered.

[@mrelou89]

Can I ask why you would order these new? Considering their price falls second hand after a year

[@chriss4949]

What about £10k off list price…which is what they are available at NOW. Must be selling well

[@decimal1815]

Does it show the charge % and remaining battery capacity as standard on the displays yet??

[@dafuq-n5w]

Yh

[@paulb1951]

$40k in Australia right now.

[@markuc]

Bought one last week! Same colour and top GT spec.

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

Doesn't have full one pedal driving, no frunk, far slower, steel wheels and fairly low range. This doesn't really beat the Niro EV or Kona EV in any way except looks. :/ Even the boot is far smaller than both of those cars.

[@Deuteross]

I'm not sure about the styling. It used to look very good but now it is a bit overdone, which makes it look like a Chinese car - especially in white.

[@podge5555]

Totally agree. The pre facelifted model looks better

[@gilesa.4052]

Agree, looks like a transformer that can't make up its mind...

[@FishyBoiFN1]

I love the new interior, badge and tail lights; but the front puts me off.

[@markuc]

Many Chinese EVs have amazing designs. Avatr, Nio, human horizon, Zeekr, etc etc

[@paulchipperfield492]

Steel wheels for over 35 grand 😂

[@TL-xw6fh]

Not my cuppa tea. Stellantis powertrains have reliability issues, and should the electronics fail, which they will, it is time to scrap the car.

[@jdmguy44]

The petrol engines on these facelift cars are revised. Now chain drive.

[@beaniemac83]

Thanks for this info, are you talking from personal experience or seen official reports of the powertrain issues? I’ll have a google and see what I can find out but was curious. I’ve read the battery’s have an 8yr warranty or up to 100,000, but not sure on the rest of the car or the motor.

[@JackLondonen]

I have driven 35 years with Peugeots. There are very little to worry about. Only thing that is very important with timing belt in oil bath models, use only Total Quarz oil that is recommended by Peugeot. No Castrol, No Mobil. No Shell....

[@arfer]

I'll continue waiting for the tsunami of Chinese EVs to arrive in a few years to bring EV prices down to approx £20,000..........no way I'm going to pay £36,000 for a car.

[@nocapproductions5471]

I wouldn't buy a Chinese EV for patriotic reasons. I prefer stuff made in Europe or USA. I agree with you, these current EV's are too expensive while not giving you much. Hoever, finally, there is one that might change this. Next gen 3008 will start selling in the next few months. Supposedly it will be the car with the longest range in the world when it comes to under $50 000 cars.

[@JackLondonen]

We are in war with china. China is the only big supporter of russia in a war with Ukraine. Do not buy any chinese brands whatsoever. Also no tiktok and if china attacks Taiwan, as Xi promised, there will be no spareparts for chinese cars.

[@Mr_RichardH]

What was the rattling noise I could hear on the interior driving shots?

[@JackLondonen]

From camera stand. I have one and it doesn't rattle if you don't do your own tunings.

[@DanRyzESPUK]

Needs priced reduced by at least 6k if not more.

[@GaryV-p3h]

For me the biggest improvement is the fact it has the letter "e" in front of it, I'm not a fan of pointless front grills on EVs though.

[@guillaumekalfon9117]

if it was priced right for what it does, i.e. half price, then why not?

[@garnray8568]

how dumb can you be

[@bingobongo1615]

The 2008 had the worst suspension I have ever felt on a modern car when I test drove it 2 years ago… I hope the EV version improves it because it is otherwise a nice looking car…

[@BrateTebra123]

What did you find so bad?

[@kennydouglas9459]

It's such a major no go for me in cars, that automatic gear sticks are turning into something so absolutely ridiculous as a lille switch. Besides, the car looks great, but sadly the car will likely be way overpriced.

[@nealy2815]

Price price price.

[@naferemix]

The motoring industry has just become about how good the graphics are on screens 🙃

[@steveoconnell3228]

watching the review i would't consider this vehicle at the price...........or at £5k less than the current price tag

[@wendyhopkins2902]

Would still rather have my Niro ev level 4 , it has all heat and ventilated seats and steering wheel and both electric front seats and far more space in the back 😀

[@rammisinghxx]

Hey guys, why did you disable comments on your sponsored "Best Home Charger" video?

[@wayneheyes904]

Prefer the petrol

[@wayneheyes904]

It’s getting way way to expensive

[@arbimd2]

I don’t know who would buy that for 40k

[@markbennett9787]

Why on earth does a front wheel drive electric car still have the remnants of a transmission tunnel cluttering up the rear floor ? This car is an overpriced hangover of the past. Come on Stellantis you’re nearly there with the Astra let’s have an all electric reasonably priced Giulietta replacement, a smallish light car that looks good and is fun to drive, in fact everything an Alfa should be and not a very expensive big SUV like the Tonale or the Stelvio.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

Because Stellantis CIO plans to sell new ICE cars for as long as possible, even after 2035 in Europe with the help of more and more lobbying, so no plateforme dedicated for EVs at Peugeot.

[@JackWeed-nm1vq]

Or because this platform have been used for 4 yrs and petrol models still sell at a much higher percentage. Buy the time of ICE ban the next 2008 will be out on dedicated E architecture.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@JackWeed-nm1vq Sure, but it is the same, minimum investment in EVs. It could be a good strategy if the result was lower costs but no, this EV is not cheaper. At the end of the day sells will be very low for this car while it is supposed to be new. To mach the concurrence in 2023 you need dedicated EV plateformes.

[@JackWeed-nm1vq]

@@didierpuzenat7280 but it doesn’t seem worthwhile for manufacturers given the better selling dedicated EVs ID3, Cupra Born and Fiat 500e have all had their production paused due to demand. And we’re talking top 10 best selling EVs. I think the E2008 was the best selling electric BSuv for a period in Europe. It makes sense we are still early on in EV adoption as a percentage of total passenger vehicle sales. It makes sense that a car past the point of facelift stage is not on dedicated ev architecture. The next gen will be and before any bsuvs from a number of its competitors. The EPuma is yet to launch, which won’t be dedicated arochirecture and the E2008 is more than halfway through its lifecycle

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@JackWeed-nm1vq Maybe there is indeed a lack of demand, but not for EVs since Tesla sells are great. So the goal for automakers should be to close the gap with Tesla (and soon chinese EVs), and it will be difficult when you have to make compromise because your plateforme must be compatible with an internal combustion engine. For example it will be difficult to have a bigger battery in the e2008 or to switch to LFP. However I am not saying that this e2008 is doomed, just that is will mostly appeal to fans of the brand, or people not well informed of what other brands have to sell, eg because they are used to go to a Peugeot dealer. And of course, for a few buyers with specific needs, this e2008 will be the best car.

[@NicasiusDeVries]

do e-3008

[@martinbeacher6165]

Too expensive by about £10k+ Steel wheels ?! Why a massive grill for an electric car? Hump between the rear seats - why, just why? Oh I know why, because Peugeot seem set on just using ICE vehicles and then slapping an electric motor in and calling it good rather than actually designing electric vehicles from scratch like the car manufacturers in China are doing.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

As always with PSA, the cars are designed to be electric or gas or hybrid, probably because Stellantis CIO is always lobbying to postpone the switch to EVs to maximise short term profits (and his HUGE incomes). So this car is a compromise and it cannot be the best, and sadly this strategy does not even make this car cheaper. So it is for people who are really in love with the brand.

[@Aphix_798]

Why are people still mentioning PSA? They combined with Stellantis years ago friend. And Peugeot is one of many of the Stellantis brands who are leading the way in the switch to fully EV

[@ousou78]

​@@Aphix_798the didn't combine they became Stellantis (the name didn't exist before)

[@smarshallsay]

# is not called a hashtag

[@pradeepmagan6951]

Smart but still to expensive

[@richardjohnson5529]

I like the Fiat 600e styling

[@paulroper4847]

hmmm - push for the Kia Niro EV - better range and much faster.

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

Yep. also has full one pedal driving, a frunk and far more luxuries like ventilated seats on the top spec.

[@gregrobins5615]

Kia/Hyundai's also have so much more recalls.

[@tomtom9879]

The problem with the Kia e-Niro is the slower charging speed. My EV road trip planner calculates faster trip with an faster charging, Citroën e-C4 with shorter range than a slower charging, with long-range Kia e-Niro for a 1000 mile trip.

[@paulroper4847]

@@tomtom9879 I agree that the slower charging on the Niro is disappointing - I don't even get the advertised 77kw - I've never had more than 53Kw. Fortunately I don't do many journeys more than 240 miles and charge at home.

[@nightoknight7899]

Only 136ps!

[@stephenlaw9827]

Overpriced and you'll be hammered on residuals.😢😢

[@kim9814]

언제 한국에서 출시 될 까요?? 아직 구형만 파네요 ㅋㅋ

[@saschaOK2309]

Ok!🙋

[@nathanwolf5547]

It seems really poor to charge for the heated elements of the car, when the competition include them, even in the base versions. It strikes me that Peugeot are still too far behind the Koreans and the Chinese. This is an old technology car and nothing can disguise that. It’s still doesn’t have enough room for a disabled driver to fit a reasonable size wheelchair in the back or in the boot.

[@JackLondonen]

if china attacks Taiwan, as Xi promised, there will be no spareparts for chinese cars.

[@Jaya365]

Do not buy this car. I own one and intend to do a review after having one for 24 months here are my thoughts. I own the GT one so take this. Pros - Looks, they look great inside and out, it's the best-looking Peugeot they've ever designed. - Extras as standard, again I'm speaking about the GT model, but you get almost all the extras as standard including, heated seats, auto fold-in wing mirrors, sunroof, cruise control, laneassisted cruise control ( drives itself on motorway), collision avoidance and detection. LED lights with auto high beam, proximity key unlock, and smartphone charger. USB ports, reversing and parking assist camera, - Boot space, decent boot space for the size of car -Drive, it's a really nice car to drive thanks to comfort. -Charging - CCS charging which is great when on longer trips Cons ( and there are plenty) - Range. The range is pathetic really, mine is the 2021 model and on full charge you are looking at 200 miles range on the clock - in reality you get no where near that, probably 150 miles at a push. In winter (UK you might be as low as 100 Miles on full charge). For context my commute is 34 miles there and back 3 days a week mostly motorway at under 70 mph and I do about 50 miles social driving, so roughly 150 - 200 miles a week on I have to charge at least twice a week I don't speed and am pretty conservative - winter with frost you are looking at every other day. You will not get 150 miles on a round trip if it's a mixture of motorway and urban. Also driving eco does practically nothing in terms of range improvements - Price, you could get a Tesla for the same price, doesn't look as nice but for performance and everything else Tesla wins. it's probably overpriced for what it is. - Software. - The Peugeot app is the single worst app I have ever used. I could write a full comment on that. It doesn't connect, it logs you out fully, you have to enter the pin and then log back in. Sometimes you have to uninstall the app because it just won't work. If you want to precondition the battery on a cold morning you better set aside 5 minutes of waiting, it's unbelievably slow to connect to your car and then performing any operation is even slower. And get this - you should precondition your battery when it's cold, it improves the range. But you cannot precondition the battery if it's less than 50%!! I think this is the only car that does this. Nor can you plug in your car and set it to precondtion overnight, it just doesn't work. Service intervals are set in K/M although the odometer is in miles so the first time I took mine in for service was told it wasn't needed. I have seemingly random service intervals now. You can't charge to a certain %like other EV's as other suppliers do not recommend 100% charge. You have to plug in a USB to update car software even though it can connect to wifi and services. Sometimes you get prompts in French, particularly errors, which is useful. Trip information updates randomly, often not at all. It doesn't update the service history, even though the log is now digital. Your phone will pull up high battery use for the app as it's not optimised. You can only register one phone per car, even if you have more than one driver. There have been no major updates the whole time I owned the car despite the fact everyone that uses it, hates it. Interior - The touch screen is pretty unresponsive and although you get a larger screen, there's a pointless always-there aircon widget on either side of the screen so you lose about 20% of the screen which is small as it is. The wireless phone charger is not angled properly, as such you may think your phone is charging but if it's not on the sweet spot, it won't be. Build quality. Just coming up to the 3rd service interval and have been had several faults appear in the past week resulting in around £1k of charges luckily mine is a lease and under warranty. Repairs needed include new ball joints, new brake pads despite using the engine breaking 80% of the time, an electrical error (not sure what it was just told by dash to take to dealer), heated seats stopped working. the green accent paintwork on the badge for the EV cars which they have since discontinued on has flaked off. So in summary, looks great drives great, range is poor, it's overpriced and has seemingly been overlooked for the EV-only parts. Get something else for the price and forego looks.

[@f1b1777]

Nobody has yet EXPLAINED the Point of EV as Environmentally it makes no sense. Am talking the whole process of EVERYTHING to make an EV from digging to get at raw materials too what powers the charges etc etc etc . Just wish all you car shows asks serious question or are You Afraid that you be Cancelled by the government/Manufactures. Seems to me the Only Honest person/company to this question is TOYOTA yes they make EV but They Still ask the question.

[@chriss4949]

Yup..no raw materials dug out of the ground for oil drilling is there??😂😂

[@tonyn3227]

Range, price, you gotta be kidding, me, no thanks

[@yassartaj2615]

Peugeot make nice looking cars but they're expensive and residuals are shocking so no sane person would buy one.

[@markgt894]

£37k for that junk😂

[@THEOMD57]

Nope ! Only Petrol and 1-2 decades later Hydrogen !!

[@DanRyzESPUK]

Hydrogen is the technology of the future, and it it always will be.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

Hydrogen has no future for ground transportation, neither cars, bus, trucks or even trains. You need 5 times more electricity with a "hydrogen car" than with a battery car, so 5 times more wind turbines and/or solar panels, and of course at least 5 times more money to drive. Not to mention the infrastructure to build, while electricity is everywhere. Regarding petrol, up to you, but I guess that in less than 10 years nobody will want to buy a "petrol car" and maybe not even own one. Then the car makers that still rely on ICE will go bankrupt, and sadly the employes will be out of job without proper qualification for the new norm.

[@davelocktalk]

Not as good as the hyundai kona

[@NZsarge1]

Whoa! Hideous and electric 🤨

[@ohyesitsme]

Just another Stellantis compliance clone.

[@LiveTorsionParadoxTo]

What a mess!