Interesting Proof That Another Universe Existed Before Our Own

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Anton Petrov

4 жыл бұрын

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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about what may have existed before our universe...another universe?
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@Timpon_Dorz
@Timpon_Dorz 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine, trillions of years ago, another being figured all this out but still died because you can't stop it!
@tinymetaltrees
@tinymetaltrees 4 жыл бұрын
So don’t rock it. You know you got it. Hey yo! But are you getting it? Really getting it?
@user-Void-Star
@user-Void-Star 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I rather go with cultivation than wasting time on Science.
@user-Void-Star
@user-Void-Star 4 жыл бұрын
@Sushant Kumar ahhh.. I mean practice Sanyasi to transcend.
@matusmotlo3854
@matusmotlo3854 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-Void-Star I hate to break it to you... But you won't transcend. You'll die long, long before the Universe dies, just like the rest of us. It's just wishful thinking.
@user-Void-Star
@user-Void-Star 4 жыл бұрын
@@matusmotlo3854 nope.
@CAfakmykak
@CAfakmykak 3 жыл бұрын
Cosmic background radiation is like the real life version of an Elder Scroll.
@SirDeeznuts
@SirDeeznuts 3 жыл бұрын
damn 👌
@rediknight7125
@rediknight7125 3 жыл бұрын
@sprock wait I know you
@realzachfluke1
@realzachfluke1 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao you guys are awesome 😂
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu and according to my ancient Hindu religion, Brahma (the creator of this universe in Hindu mythology) created this universe 155 trillion years ago and this universe will exist for a total of 311 trillion years. And when Brahma dies, this universe will 'die' along with him. Then a new Brahma will be born who will create a new universe to take the place of the old universe. And this process continues forever, without a beginning and without an end. My ancient Hindu religion also teaches that there are an infinite number of universes and each of those universes experience an infinite cycle of births (which you can call 'Big Bangs' in a modern scientific way) and deaths (which you can call 'Big Crunches' in a modern scientific way).
@maxz9743
@maxz9743 3 жыл бұрын
6 months after this video was published, Roger Penrose was (jointly) awarded the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics.
@steveunderhill5935
@steveunderhill5935 3 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t heard of Roger Penrose you could not find this channel because your head is cyclically stuck up your own black hole.
@helmaschine1885
@helmaschine1885 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveunderhill5935 why so aggressive? Not everyone keeps up with news and scientific research.
@hitthemill8595
@hitthemill8595 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveunderhill5935 How about you stop gatekeeping and let people educate themselves and enjoy the content.
@JohnRandomness105
@JohnRandomness105 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveunderhill5935 What the hay?
@H1Guard
@H1Guard 3 жыл бұрын
I think the difference between "theory" and speculation has been blurred beyond distinction.
@williamr3872
@williamr3872 3 жыл бұрын
holy crap using the universe's background radiation to leave information that can be decoded eons later sounds like a really cool scifi story
@jasonoliver6170
@jasonoliver6170 3 жыл бұрын
Stargate Universe' main plotline is exactly this - but it was cancelled after season 2 :'(
@BlueRidgeBubble
@BlueRidgeBubble Жыл бұрын
@@jasonoliver6170 They tried too hard with it Stargate needs some hokeyness, dammit
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Жыл бұрын
Stargate universe explored that storyline.
@staticgrass
@staticgrass 3 жыл бұрын
Penrose has such a beautiful mind that he was still able to suggest the craziest ideas throughout his career.
@steveunderhill5935
@steveunderhill5935 3 жыл бұрын
Nobel prize winning sir Roger Penrose... I would want to try and guess the multiple letters after his name...
@heh2393
@heh2393 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveunderhill5935 FRS
@heh2393
@heh2393 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveunderhill5935 OBE
@oomahuntressprotectress848
@oomahuntressprotectress848 3 жыл бұрын
never watched that? heard its pretty good??
@deepg7084
@deepg7084 3 жыл бұрын
it takes a mind like that to stretch our imagination and ponder all the possibilities. Einstein suggested gravitational waves could result from his theory of relativity in1916, but we only recently found evidence that proved it.
@joeshmoe7485
@joeshmoe7485 4 жыл бұрын
No contradiction, I've read Penrose's book, Cycle's of Time. His theories agree with the 'big rip' and his CCC hypothesis does not say that the universe will undergo some kind of big collapse. What he says is that after the great rip, some unknown process essentially resets entropy. After reaching the highest possible state of maximim entropy in the big rip, scale no longer matters. All particles are flying so fast away from eachother at the speed of light that some condition (not unlike inflation) returns the entire universe to a state of extremely low entropy and the whole process starts over.
@spottheturtle9568
@spottheturtle9568 4 жыл бұрын
Ty, I was about to give this correction as well. Cycles of time is a great book every science fan should read.
@ChristopherWentling
@ChristopherWentling 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t believe in the big rip either. His theory posits that after all the matter in the universe decays and only photons will exist that the universe will lose its metric so that infinitely small becomes the same as infinitely large and thus begins the next cycle.
@UnrebornMortuus
@UnrebornMortuus 4 жыл бұрын
everythings so big and far away its essentially ordered again, the end result of entropy is true order, and according to the scale of everything at the time, as the poster above me posits, yes, its infinitely large and small, for all intense and purposes if someone from the previous universe survived, theyd be incredibly small
@loganwolv3393
@loganwolv3393 4 жыл бұрын
So basicaly after enough expansion,after the big rip,there will be so much vaccum that another big bang happends once again? I mean there's no need for a reset siince the particles are so much far away from each other.
@gorequillnachovidal
@gorequillnachovidal 4 жыл бұрын
oh, science FICTION....got it. A cyclicle universe got sent to junk science decades ago. You need an external energy source or entropy will end in heat death. You are going to have to show some stiff proof for us to throw the laws of thermodynamics aside there guy.
@iliaadamanthark8336
@iliaadamanthark8336 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, reality feels just like a dream with complicated rules to follow.
@minsapint8007
@minsapint8007 3 жыл бұрын
@@somedumbozzie1539 I have a friend Steve from back in the day at ITL who was a technical author. Maybe he could do the user manual. :)
@david94549
@david94549 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that reality itself is generated from the collection of all our consciouses. Like when scientists have break through ideas, then they test it, and discover that the idea that they generated with their minds, is actually true
@empyrean196
@empyrean196 3 жыл бұрын
@@david94549- That’s a combination of abstract thought and scientific method. As human beings, our capabilities are unconventional. We live in highly artificial niches.
@katchibediako7036
@katchibediako7036 3 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes" ...🤣 I have such dynamic dreams that sleep is like stepping into and alternate life, and being woke is like simulated reality. (see: Sims)
@TheUltimm
@TheUltimm 3 жыл бұрын
@@somedumbozzie1539 i think the universe scammed us
@geraldhimmelspach1154
@geraldhimmelspach1154 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. He takes some scientific theory that would put us to sleep in class, but a 10 minute video seems like at best 2 minutes. They end to soon, Great job.
@xchazz86
@xchazz86 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin: "Global Pandemic." Economists: "Total collapse." Government: "Social distancing, self isolate." Anton: "Alternative universe."
@percydillard777
@percydillard777 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao @ every demon's dream come true
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 4 жыл бұрын
Me: "Absolut win."
@ArakkoaChronicles
@ArakkoaChronicles 4 жыл бұрын
In that universe they could probably leave their homes without their mouths sweating from the masks, or without getting fined for walking on the street.
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArakkoaChronicles it won't last forever. Be strong. Imagine instead a universe in which 15 percent of the people get lung inflammation.
@jamesdriscoll9405
@jamesdriscoll9405 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArakkoaChronicles Such places exist in this universe, this planet, to be specific. Your experience may be different, however. Sorry about that. Can't be helped as there's a lot of it about. Times like these are for learning patience and resilience, and faith in each other to pull together so we can fight over what's really important when this is past.
@Brukner841
@Brukner841 4 жыл бұрын
Just gotta say I love this channel, Anton. Keep 'em coming!
@sparticale1954
@sparticale1954 4 жыл бұрын
Plank has been broght into dispute
@pilottou
@pilottou 4 жыл бұрын
As said in Battlestar Galactica, “all this has happened before, and will happen again.”
@aleleeinnaleleeinn9110
@aleleeinnaleleeinn9110 4 жыл бұрын
If space is inite and time is infinite then the same events will recur eternally. Fredrick Nietzsche. He hated the implications of the concept, bus saw no way around it. The other thought is that What Da Math--the going back to the big bang is a mathmatical limit. At the limit the equation ceases to make sense.
@iGame3D
@iGame3D 4 жыл бұрын
So say we all.
@stephenfritz7493
@stephenfritz7493 4 жыл бұрын
What was it in Lexx? If you can see far enough back you can see the future.
@S6261
@S6261 4 жыл бұрын
In Stellaris there is a mini event called "The Worm" or something along those lines, the emblem described for it is a serpent or something similar forming a circle and eating it's own tail. The whole theme for the event is "what will be was, and what was will be again", indicating an infinite loop of time that constantly repeats or resets itself until something finally changes. A very good and interesting event chain.
@S6261
@S6261 4 жыл бұрын
@Vendicar Kahn the analogy is representing all of time, implying that all of time loops and repeats with subtle differences but overall being the same, so how is all of time small scale?
@doveboyz857
@doveboyz857 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you do. You have such a kind demeanor and make science fun/interesting.
@Shrubchucker
@Shrubchucker 3 жыл бұрын
That would suck if you left the oven on in the other universe
@Jmatad21
@Jmatad21 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the reason for microwave backgrounds
@druid139
@druid139 3 жыл бұрын
That's what caused the Big Bang!
@mark9294
@mark9294 3 ай бұрын
@@Jmatad21😂
@dylanbrown3090
@dylanbrown3090 4 жыл бұрын
Hello wonderful Anton, this is person
@tgmtf5963
@tgmtf5963 4 жыл бұрын
Btw anton is gay
@craigcorstorphine192
@craigcorstorphine192 4 жыл бұрын
@@tgmtf5963 So?
@brucebenedon4812
@brucebenedon4812 4 жыл бұрын
Yamato Genskie That is important because............???
@tgmtf5963
@tgmtf5963 4 жыл бұрын
@@brucebenedon4812 i am also gay so i know he is like me
@mud2479
@mud2479 4 жыл бұрын
Anton person this is hello, wonderful.
@martinzarzarmusic5338
@martinzarzarmusic5338 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I understand it, Penrose does not propose a bug crunch, but rather suggests that size itself is an emergent property that comes about with matter. When there is only energy left size disappears once again. His theory is based on states of entropy. Glad to see his ideas mentioned here. Thanks for your wonderful videos.
@patrick-kees8962
@patrick-kees8962 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any sources I could use to read up on that, sounds really interesting but couldn't find anything through Google but that probably due using the wrong search terms
@cellardoor888
@cellardoor888 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think additionally that Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmology concept suggests that in the far distant future, once the universe has massively expanded and matter has turned to photons, that: a) photons have no internal clocks as they travel at 'c' so the universe no longer has a clock or time; b) thereby, since time and distance are linked, the size of the universe becomes indeterminate (but it is still conformal, ie the same shape as it was before); so c) if the universe is no longer big or small then it can be described as infinitely small, ie the origination state of a subsequent big bang, rinse and repeat ad infinitum. So, yes, I agree that the big crunch vs big tear query is not the point.
@cyle4680
@cyle4680 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime I think I learn something I feel like horton hears a who is the ultimate sci-fi movie
@blackbirdpie217
@blackbirdpie217 4 жыл бұрын
I survived the "big rip" yesterday when this guy at work stunk up the whole office with a giant black hole. And just like those you mentioned it left evidence long afterwards. it's intersting these mega disasters are still happening.
@dennisthemenace49
@dennisthemenace49 4 жыл бұрын
Eat hummus. Payback.
@gerryadams2011
@gerryadams2011 3 жыл бұрын
It's all gas at the end of the day and at the beginning once again. Think in terms of gas disks.
@ho7026
@ho7026 3 жыл бұрын
6:10 you've misunderstood. this is the whole point of conformal cycles - it doesnt shrink - in the universe when only light exists the concept of distance and scale is pretty much meaningless which Penrose compares to the very moment of big bang - ELI5 is that it gets rescaled . below from his 2006 paper: "Physically, we may think that again in the very remote future, the universe “forgets” time in the sense that there is no way to build a clock with just conformally invariant material. This is related to the fact that massless particles, in relativity theory, do not experience any passage of time. We might even say that to a massless particle, “eternity is no big deal”. So the future boundary, to such an entity is just like anywhere else. With conformal invariance both in the remote future and at the Big-Bang origin, we can try to argue that the two situations are physically identical, so the remote future of one phase of the universe becomes the Big Bang of the next"
@tortysoft
@tortysoft 3 жыл бұрын
I said that in my own words just now - thank you for supplying the original :-)
@T5Zplayer
@T5Zplayer 3 жыл бұрын
I've misundetstood the lot, which is why I am going to buy one of his T shirts to mask the fact that I'm thick. Although Anton's description does it spell it out for me :) (The CCC thing not that I'm thick)
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 жыл бұрын
CCC, while indeed fascinating, seems to leave the problem of the "first BB" open, doesn't it?
@hurri7720
@hurri7720 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrzemyslawSliwinski , there was never a first, our brains have great difficulties to accept that there was always a univere in some state. And still we also find i hard to accept that there was nothing in the beginning,, so hard that we have had to create a creator, a God, to fix that problem. And still how could there ever have been nothing at some state in time. I quite like this theory.
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 жыл бұрын
@@hurri7720 So do I. Nevertheless, I think that what we have created is - given our limited capabilities - only an image of God. Anyway, those who do not accept God's existence still need to resolve a status of Platonic world's 'artefacts.'
@kaimehrkens5900
@kaimehrkens5900 4 жыл бұрын
“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.” (Robert Jordan)
@impanda8865
@impanda8865 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this remind me of something in lotr
@kaimehrkens5900
@kaimehrkens5900 4 жыл бұрын
@@impanda8865 I cant tell if you are making a clever sarcastic joke or genuinely curious :thinking: lol
@beggon12
@beggon12 4 жыл бұрын
*tugs braid
@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv
@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv 4 жыл бұрын
"hen the Age that gave it birth comes again.” " That is exactly what I needed to know about the Wheel of Time. So it is a cyclical time story. NO EFFING WAY am I wasting TIME on another of those. The whole concept is a literally a circle jerk. Ethelred Hardrede
@impanda8865
@impanda8865 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaimehrkens5900 oh man i was completely serious, I googled it, this is exactly a quote in Lord of the rings.
@AMERICANPATRIOT1945
@AMERICANPATRIOT1945 3 жыл бұрын
Hello wonderful Anton Petrov, Thank you for publishing your wonderful series of videos which make very difficult, fascinating, and sometimes esoteric science accessible to a wide audience of lay people and STEM professionals alike. No doubt you have inspired and educated many with your knowledge and wisdom!
@gtziavelis
@gtziavelis 4 жыл бұрын
"375,000 years ago" * 375,000 years after Big Bang
@Andromedon777
@Andromedon777 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he makes simple mistakes like that occasionally
@daleeasternbrat816
@daleeasternbrat816 4 жыл бұрын
I caught it too. Simple misstatement.
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 4 жыл бұрын
2nd language
@pugspog
@pugspog 4 жыл бұрын
ah. thanks. i was a bit worried now that my soul had transmuted into a different universe
@Zackfish12345
@Zackfish12345 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was going to point that out! An honest mistake
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how many universes have existed, the ultimate question remains: "Why is there something, instead of nothing?". The answer is of course "42", but that is only known by a select few.
@chinchepunta
@chinchepunta 4 жыл бұрын
the answer is * in fact not 42
@markfoster1520
@markfoster1520 4 жыл бұрын
It's a -(-42)...by this time....but that's still 42!
@misterbigears8459
@misterbigears8459 4 жыл бұрын
Not why but why not.
@stephenkolostyak4087
@stephenkolostyak4087 4 жыл бұрын
It's 1.13377
@bryanelliott1928
@bryanelliott1928 4 жыл бұрын
Basically you can't get something from nothing without a creater
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: The old universe was our universe in the future. :p
@Zaluskowsky
@Zaluskowsky 4 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: Somehow someone managed to discover the truth to all this and the universe replaced itself with something even stranger
@camoooo8
@camoooo8 4 жыл бұрын
Hits blunt lmao
@bluesakura2092
@bluesakura2092 4 жыл бұрын
what made you think that? in general, that could be possible. there’s no telling how time operates on that level.
@krzysztofmikosz
@krzysztofmikosz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zaluskowsky I like that idea. The universe could be hyperdimensional torus where at least 4 basic dimensions are vast with several also impactful (electromagnetic or gravitational forces showing distortions in the spacetime)
@ABetterName22
@ABetterName22 4 жыл бұрын
The old universe was this one but played in reverse. Instead of the Big Rip it was the Big Crunch. Then once this one rips time gets reversed again and it all crunches into the old universe.
@lauragriffin6512
@lauragriffin6512 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so fascinating. They make you think of things that you've maybe never considered before.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu and according to my ancient Hindu religion, Brahma (the creator of this universe in Hindu mythology) created this universe 155 trillion years ago and this universe will exist for a total of 311 trillion years. And when Brahma dies, this universe will 'die' along with him. Then a new Brahma will be born who will create a new universe to take the place of the old universe. And this process continues forever, without a beginning and without an end. My ancient Hindu religion also teaches that there are an infinite number of universes and each of those universes experience an infinite cycle of births (which you can call 'Big Bangs' in a modern scientific way) and deaths (which you can call 'Big Crunches' in a modern scientific way).
@nekowafer4017
@nekowafer4017 3 жыл бұрын
Man I don't know about anyone else but when I hear Anton's voice and I learn his name and that he wants to talk about space, I just wanna be this guy's friend. Just sounds like a very cool dude to hang out with.
@gryph01
@gryph01 2 жыл бұрын
Anton is a cool guy! Super down to Earth personality. Although he no longer lives in Canada. I'm proud that he did live in Canada.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu and according to my ancient Hindu religion, Brahma (the creator of this universe in Hindu mythology) created this universe 155 trillion years ago and this universe will exist for a total of 311 trillion years. And when Brahma dies, this universe will 'die' along with him. Then a new Brahma will be born who will create a new universe to take the place of the old universe. And this process continues forever, without a beginning and without an end. My ancient Hindu religion also teaches that there are an infinite number of universes and each of those universes experience an infinite cycle of births (which you can call 'Big Bangs' in a modern scientific way) and deaths (which you can call 'Big Crunches' in a modern scientific way).
@brybry6669
@brybry6669 4 жыл бұрын
375,000 years is the time post-expansion, from "time zero", not looking back from the present date.
@edide1627
@edide1627 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing but hopefully everyone or close to everyone knew what he meant.
@truebigboss
@truebigboss 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, thanks😅
@ako1439
@ako1439 4 жыл бұрын
Good looking out. I'm paused on that graph.Then i remembered that Anton's comment section is cool about things like this.
@ivanemilov522
@ivanemilov522 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Hambleton well one day it may be
@scottmiller4348
@scottmiller4348 4 жыл бұрын
@@ivanemilov522 May be what , the begining of another end or the end of another begining ? This still does nat address the existence of the " MULTI VERSE " , just a single Univii ossilation within the greater matrix of " THE MULTI VERSE " !!!!
@eddietucker3334
@eddietucker3334 3 жыл бұрын
I am a scientific moron, but I love watching Anton because, yes, I actually do learn things!
@madmike1973
@madmike1973 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Aufenthalt
@Aufenthalt 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask what have you learned with this video?
@eddietucker3334
@eddietucker3334 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aufenthalt That black holes are at both the beginning of and end of our universe and that it is likely that we are not the first or last of many universes. Oh, and if I'm wrong, the Big Rip will happen and, well, the end of the end.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu and according to my ancient Hindu religion, Brahma (the creator of this universe in Hindu mythology) created this universe 155 trillion years ago and this universe will exist for a total of 311 trillion years. And when Brahma dies, this universe will 'die' along with him. Then a new Brahma will be born who will create a new universe to take the place of the old universe. And this process continues forever, without a beginning and without an end. My ancient Hindu religion also teaches that there are an infinite number of universes and each of those universes experience an infinite cycle of births (which you can call 'Big Bangs' in a modern scientific way) and deaths (which you can call 'Big Crunches' in a modern scientific way).
@darcspartan9640
@darcspartan9640 3 жыл бұрын
Yo it’s like a heartbeat. The universe has a heartbeat, that’s an interesting idea that I am on board with. Thanks for the video Anton, I love your content because I always learn something new!
@jlpjlp1953
@jlpjlp1953 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend reading Isaac Asimov's short story "The Last Question". Good story
@gusclark1697
@gusclark1697 4 жыл бұрын
The best tag line in science fiction. No, won't chuck in a spoiler.
@ericwilliams7374
@ericwilliams7374 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like that's closer to the actual truth of existence.....we are our own Gods....
@Mandrak789
@Mandrak789 4 жыл бұрын
Life is not a question. There does not need to be an answer.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber 4 жыл бұрын
One of his best
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericwilliams7374 we create our own gods in our image
@estillings23
@estillings23 4 жыл бұрын
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer" -MultiVac
@pspicer777
@pspicer777 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh, a delight for sure!! Be well ES.
@SuzNews
@SuzNews 4 жыл бұрын
42.
@joshanonline
@joshanonline 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I am very happy for this Discovery because it fits into my own hypothesis of spacetime and Gravity to complete relativity... Nothing to do with blackholes from before time, but rather something at the beginning of time itself. It explains what this is and even dark matter quite well. A very simple answer in front of our eyes...someone will realize... But since I don't know the mathematics of it, I can only write a paper of the thought experiments :(
@Meetmountain
@Meetmountain 4 жыл бұрын
This great story came to my mind aswell.
@TalenGryphon
@TalenGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
'The last question' came to my mind as well
@wesleymccravy901
@wesleymccravy901 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel the fabric of space has a point of greatest tension allowed like a spring, however this spring cannot loose its springiness. So when everything expands as far as it can, it whips back to that finite starting point generating an incalculable amount of energy and another bang occurs.
@MyMateGeorge
@MyMateGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well presented. Just one linguistic thing: Penrose's ideas on this are not "proof"; they are, at most, 'evidence'. :-)
@ThomasKelly669
@ThomasKelly669 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just an idea was the last thing said
@MyMateGeorge
@MyMateGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasKelly669 Yes indeed. That's why the video title should be "Interesting Idea..." rather than "Interesting *Proof*...". 🙂
@ThomasKelly669
@ThomasKelly669 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyMateGeorge the guy is doing a great job on a brilliant channel Making his science understandable, You can please some people sometimes but you can’t please all the people all of the time
@MyMateGeorge
@MyMateGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasKelly669 That is true. And what I said is true too. You can make one tiny point of correction and there is always someone who get pointlessly annoyed about it.
@ravener96
@ravener96 3 жыл бұрын
We usually call this clickbait. This isnt proof and anton knows well. Overly bombastic titles are just how ge does it.
@MouxoMancer
@MouxoMancer 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Futurama did an episode based on the idea the universe basically restarts in their forward time machine.
@UFOUAPMagnet
@UFOUAPMagnet 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched that yesterday
@BillKermanKSP
@BillKermanKSP 4 жыл бұрын
Well, if we can still see remains of the past universe, did it really ever end?
@vithral8834
@vithral8834 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good point
@Andromedon777
@Andromedon777 4 жыл бұрын
Effects of it doesn't mean it still exists.
@georgelastrapes9259
@georgelastrapes9259 4 жыл бұрын
One man's ceiling is another man's floor. One universe's big rip is another universe's big bang.
@JohnDoe-vf2yo
@JohnDoe-vf2yo 4 жыл бұрын
Wave. Function. Collapse. If we are observing a past Universe, then it can't really be a "past" universe because unless quantum theory is literally universal, are we really seeing remnants of a past universe? And if Superposition is to be believed, how do we know it's from the past?
@Camelotsmoon
@Camelotsmoon 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the universe carries old scars.
@brando3342
@brando3342 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video. The universe could be in the shape of a torus, where we have an oscillating universe, inflating for a time and shrinking for a time respectively.
@gallumbucket4131
@gallumbucket4131 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy riding in the vehicle of your mind. Looking forward to the next leg of the journey, buckle up!
@JeremysRants
@JeremysRants 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of universes spawning out of nothing in an empty universe. Like the idea that once everything in this universe is at maximum entropy it just drops to a lower state and then becomes a new universe.
@OmegaWolf747
@OmegaWolf747 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy idea that one universe might die and another might rise from its remnants. Like the phoenix rising from its own ashes.
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 4 жыл бұрын
Just like some of our plants need fire to procreate, crazy stuff.
@christianfrommuslim
@christianfrommuslim 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, explaining the CMB is important. Apparently they account for the order of the universe. Anything that makes it look like the universe was designed must be explained away, The same thing with the "informational panspermia'" hypothesis Anton mentions: bits of leftover information from the past universe accounting for order in the current universe. Just hope nobody recognizes that both of these explanations for order simply kick the can back up the alley to where the order, or anything, came from in the first place. These sure are two good band aids to help lessen the cognitive dissonance engendered by denying design.
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 4 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I was in a astronomy class where I suggested something very similar to this. My idea was that the cycle of the universe was shaped something like a bunch of hourglasses stacked on top of each other, where there would be a "big bang" followed by a period before it reached some point of no return, where everything started getting sucked to one point down the line. Like the biggest black hole you could imagine. When everything was in that (gonna use black hole again here) one singular point... BOOM. New universe. And over and over again. Professor laughed and made fun of me to the class getting a good laugh. After that none of my classmates would work in groups with me cause the professor kept making fun of me for it whenever I raised my hand, so eventually I stopped raising my hand and then never took another astronomy class after that semester.
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 4 жыл бұрын
I just couldn't understand why he was so sure that the big bang was the BEGINNING in all caps. I mean I always thought that the whole point of science was to question untill there were no questions to ask. Not blindly regurgitate longheld the consensus views.
@itsdarc6661
@itsdarc6661 4 жыл бұрын
wow dude that fucking sucks, pursue this idea and dont let other people pull you down!
@إسماعيلل-ت5ط
@إسماعيلل-ت5ط 4 жыл бұрын
They laught because they can't reach the level of your giniousity
@PatriarchalCompass
@PatriarchalCompass 4 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the professor? Let's destroy his email
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 4 жыл бұрын
Your professor is like those scientist back then who some thought the world was flat, nothing can break the sound barrier & flying was impossible.
@threegreencharms
@threegreencharms 3 жыл бұрын
It would be dope as hell if we eventually take a series of extremely high resolution photos of the CMB, and end up finding some kind of encoded message from the previous universe. Or some kind of wake, or aftershock from a pre-big-bang mass civilization dying out. An effective communication method which can transcend time, to that extent...Wow, the implications are huge if these structures really are echoes from a previous cosmological cycle.
@gravoc857
@gravoc857 3 жыл бұрын
😳 This kind of stuff transcends the most wild science fiction I’ve ever read. I’ve read about trillion year AI’s who disassemble the entire universe and rebuild it as part of the structure of itself. The concept of a sort of library of information from previous universes… What if our universe has cycled more times than we even have numbers to count to? Imagine the information that would be stored over the countless years. Could one become a god with this sort of scale? What if the purpose of this eternal cyclical universe is for a being to emerge that’s capable of creating their own universe? What if this is a test of divinity? Still leaves the ultimate annoying question. If this was designed, what created the designer? If this wasn’t designed, why does it exist at all? I’ve thought about the idea of eternal nothing, folding onto nothing. Given a scale of true infinity in both the sense of time and space. Could a truly empty plane of existence, form into something tangible? Even if space and time doesn’t exist in true nothing, it has to have boundaries. Something exists, which challenges the notion of nothing. If there was nothing, everywhere, then something couldn’t exist. Something does exist, so nothing must have a boundary. That nothing must also be responsible for that something existing. Something can’t come from nothing, unless nothing is real. It would seem to make sense that for nothing to exist, something would also have to exist. Even nothing requires a definition. What defines true nothingness? Is true nothing capable of generating something?
@rfichokeofdestiny
@rfichokeofdestiny Жыл бұрын
It says…drink your Ovaltine.
@darrenscriven3963
@darrenscriven3963 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Hindu cosmology where the universe is cyclically created and destroyed
@RenegadePeon
@RenegadePeon 4 жыл бұрын
We really have two options at the moment: either believe that matter/energy came into existence from nothing and will eventually return to non-existence for eternity, or matter/energy always existed and will always exist in a constant state of motion. We may still be at the relative beginning of the expansion of the universe and whatever is propelling everything away from everything else at an accelerating rate may run out in time for gravity to slow, and eventually retract, all space bodies.
@rainyday6430
@rainyday6430 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! This was my first thought as i clicked on the video!
@zointisarenazi
@zointisarenazi 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting but i think this only the second time as abrahamic religions says and it's TRIGGERED by someone because as we see right now the universe is spreading faster and faster . and there's nothing as it's gonna collapse on it's self . it's just impossible no mater what no mater the chances for this to happen by coincidence.
@jamalleightball7576
@jamalleightball7576 4 жыл бұрын
Many more than the Hindu believed in a great solar cycle
@Tilnaor
@Tilnaor 4 жыл бұрын
The Egyptian "shen" glyph for "eternity" is a rope, folded in a loop without ends, folding itself
@edwardshaw9912
@edwardshaw9912 4 жыл бұрын
I watch your channel as I love how the mysteries of the universe eventually get explained one by one and also because you explain it in a way that the everyday person can kind of understand . But needless to say , every new post blows my mind 😂
@yardensayada8909
@yardensayada8909 3 жыл бұрын
''Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that, we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now'' - Douglas Adams, the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
@popuptarget7386
@popuptarget7386 3 жыл бұрын
And the poor whale had just come to terms with being a whale, before he had to come to terms with no longer being a whale.
@nolifeguy1
@nolifeguy1 3 жыл бұрын
It was probably dropped before, and was simply re-potted after the fact. Or, death is in fact a human construct. And we are all living the same live, separated by different instances of death. One conciousness, divided amongst itself.
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 3 жыл бұрын
Before even the Mice, Doug Adams WAS.
@andrewcannon7055
@andrewcannon7055 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like that "book" the first time I skimmed it. But your comment makes me want to give it another chance. It just felt like propaganda the first time. I like my science to be straight forward.
@MossBravado
@MossBravado 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Closer To Truth interview with Penrose where he describes this theory. He actually does not describe it as the big crunch we usually hear about. The way he describes it involves the universe expanding to a point where space and time become meaningless sort of creating a singularity again. This is quite different from the typical big crunch theories.
@stinkfist911
@stinkfist911 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Penrose is a brilliant man, I love watching his talks. *added* If I remember right, the last thing I saw from Roger on this subject didn't need a "crunch" at the end. I'm about to go find that video of his again actually.
@letsgobrandon186
@letsgobrandon186 4 жыл бұрын
Pen
@stinkfist911
@stinkfist911 4 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon186 low hanging fruit sir. Well played.
@princevegeta6679
@princevegeta6679 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I've thought of the universe since I was a child.
@emrvld1420
@emrvld1420 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Findley Bro same with me. I use to always say to think that everything that’s in the known universe started in a bubble.... like forreal? It had to be something before that
@ruth3940
@ruth3940 4 жыл бұрын
Right! Me too bro
@Dougie-ex1ov
@Dougie-ex1ov 4 жыл бұрын
i thought about how I would score some more candy
@sogil8078
@sogil8078 4 жыл бұрын
Also! It seemed pretty obvious...
@optimusprime5199
@optimusprime5199 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, me too but not since I was child.
@jordangallagher215
@jordangallagher215 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Anton, you are a wonderful person! Thank you for a new channel to listen while I study!
@freespirit995
@freespirit995 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and thought-provoking. Thank you!
@TheRealFauna
@TheRealFauna 4 жыл бұрын
You are by far my favorite person now👍I love this show!
@kiddo280
@kiddo280 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another fantastic mind-blowing topic Anton! 🤯.. keep up the good work!
@LightningBoyAudio
@LightningBoyAudio 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Your presentation is always informative, well delivered, and sparks my imagination. Thank you. -Mike
@zenstrata
@zenstrata Жыл бұрын
I have long held this particular thought myself. There is not just one universe, but many happening in succession.
@williamjamesrapp7356
@williamjamesrapp7356 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Love the Shirts. Got my Daughter a WONDERFUL PERSON shirt recently. THANKS
@Andromedon777
@Andromedon777 4 жыл бұрын
You should use Space Engine and take cool pictures of something and make a poster of it. Go to display and set the window to be in a ratio of what a poster would be, and then multiply that by like 3x to expand the display up to capture more detail, take the screenshot, then go get it printed
@Andromedon777
@Andromedon777 4 жыл бұрын
And in the slight chance you don't know what Space Engine is, it's what he uses in the video. It's free.
@generationxpvp
@generationxpvp 4 жыл бұрын
Sir Roger Penrose is a legend
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 жыл бұрын
Diablo 2 BotWatch He also thinks consciousness is created by quantum entangled microtubules in the brain. 🤪
@sherifitzgerald6886
@sherifitzgerald6886 4 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan.💋😙💖
@georgelastrapes9259
@georgelastrapes9259 4 жыл бұрын
There was a time when Hawking thought that black holes could not exist, but Penrose proved to him that they must exist.
@SuzNews
@SuzNews 4 жыл бұрын
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Check out the CE-5 The Movie.
@SuzNews
@SuzNews 4 жыл бұрын
@Sammy Smith Check out Dr. Steven Greer's channel and his CE-5 movie that just launched. The "one big shared consciousness" would explain a lot of psychic, spiritual, and extraterrestrial phenomena.
@Tin047
@Tin047 4 жыл бұрын
this really reminded me of one of exurb1a's older videos: "Why is There Something Rather Than Nothing? " i strongly recommend anyone interested in philosophy to watch it ...in fact that whole channel is great, so check it out!
@billmarsh1971
@billmarsh1971 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's very good.been subbed a couple of years now.
@AlexandreGurchumelia
@AlexandreGurchumelia 4 жыл бұрын
There's planty of nothing in my head when I'm reading philosophy.
@DrFonzo
@DrFonzo 4 жыл бұрын
Remind me of it as well. Great channel
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is unstable.
@crashlag420
@crashlag420 4 жыл бұрын
Ah a fellow tool fan. Favorite track?
@chrisso6903
@chrisso6903 Жыл бұрын
Anton hello to you! I have been off for a while meaning I have been ill. So I am glad to get back to school with you and look at what I have missed. Great to be Back....🎉 Aussie chrisso 🇦🇺.
@philjimmybob5650
@philjimmybob5650 4 жыл бұрын
The title should have ended with a "?" or the word "proof" should not have been used. Nevertheless, it was interesting Anton.
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 4 жыл бұрын
Anton makes the same mistake within the video. @8:20, he said the study "was able to prove the existence of so-called cyclical universes", before going on to say that it was just an idea.
@MrKennyBones
@MrKennyBones 4 жыл бұрын
Penrose’s theory has been developed for years. It’s not based on nothing, it’s actually the only model which doesn’t collide with the 2nd law of thermodynamics
@anon9579
@anon9579 4 жыл бұрын
MrKennyBones still we don’t know for sure. Don’t get me wrong this video is good but we still don’t know
@jengleheimerschmitt7941
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 4 жыл бұрын
I concur with Jonas (although the title does seem kinda overstated to me...). Strictly speaking, "Proof" in the sense of absolute certainty doesn't apply at all outside of mathematics or formal logic. The theories that best explain the most with the fewest assumptions are better than the other contenders. "Proof" really can't have any definite meaning in the natural sciences, things can only be "proved" to some standard or other. And I can prove it.
@dave4148
@dave4148 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a proof. It could be that the proof has incorrect assumptions and/or implications. Think of the use of the phrase “proof of concept”
@jaydunstan1618
@jaydunstan1618 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Anton for all that you do.
@graviarthelis9938
@graviarthelis9938 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, i want those theories to be true, it gives a kind of relief to know the universe doesn't end with just evaporating black holes and restart again
@genostellar
@genostellar 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. If the death of the universe isn't the end of everything, even if we're all forgotten, at least there's a chance that the next universe will have occupants who could know that there was a previous one. It'd be nice to know that something about us continues on, even if it's just the effects our universe has on the next one, and it'd be nice to know that there will be a next one so it all doesn't end here.
@smugegeez1406
@smugegeez1406 4 жыл бұрын
@ClandestineOstrich Probably, I'd consider it emotion as well.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 жыл бұрын
@@smugegeez1406 Emotions come from survival needs. Single celled organisms need to feel emotions. Emotional systems exist in pretty much every organism we have looked at. Emotion means an automatic program that runs in response to a stimuli (chemical / hormonal changes as a result). So fear to make you run. Hunger when you see food to encourage you to eat. Good when you did something useful for the organism so that behavior will be encouraged again, etc.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 жыл бұрын
@@genostellar Must have been an infinite number of cycles before this one.
@genostellar
@genostellar 4 жыл бұрын
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Who knows? There could have even only been one before, or this one could be the only one. Until we find out for sure, who can say?
@EchoTangoSuitcase
@EchoTangoSuitcase 3 жыл бұрын
I've always just assumed the universe was a figment of it's own imagination.
@stevesloan7132
@stevesloan7132 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the universe is an impurity in the state of non-being, and the ultimate statement on the transience of all things.
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the magic question. Duality. Is it real, or is it a dream? (Wake me up when your done.)
@stevesloan7132
@stevesloan7132 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanschleps8758 The world is a dream, unless my dream is real.
@highlander918
@highlander918 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevesloan7132 A huge picture of the universe from outside its boundaries (if there are any) probably looks like a system of neural connections. We could simply be within the mind of something inconceivable.
@_swordfern
@_swordfern 3 жыл бұрын
We've got a lot to process here
@caolmgm
@caolmgm 4 жыл бұрын
I mean this with the absolute most respect: Anton is an adorable man.
@HBees79
@HBees79 4 жыл бұрын
no, he is a wonderful person :)
@Guppyg53
@Guppyg53 4 жыл бұрын
Hes so precious
@maninthehills7134
@maninthehills7134 4 жыл бұрын
All of those... no homo
@joey19xx73
@joey19xx73 4 жыл бұрын
We must protect him at any, and all costs.
@rickclark7508
@rickclark7508 4 жыл бұрын
Creepy
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
Little did Dr. Penrose knew that 6 months after Anton makes this video about him, he'll win the Nobel Prize.
@jacobrodrig8
@jacobrodrig8 3 жыл бұрын
I was discussing this exact theory with my friend the other day. Almost exactly I just didnt know how to prove it, but I figured if I had this idea someone else smarter probably was working on proving it. I really wasn't expecting to stumble on my answer so soon lol. Thank you sharing this video with him
@SeanandStephaniesAdventures
@SeanandStephaniesAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Ive had it too before, nothing comes from nothing, the expansion and contracting of the universe always seem to be how it has to be. In an ever repeating cycle of death and rebirth. However, That does then beg the question of where did the first iteration of the universe come from, to which I have absolutely no idea LOL
@z72248
@z72248 3 жыл бұрын
I cant help but visualize micro and macrocosms connecting everything. The universe, contrary to some data, will have a big squeeze, and if u watch it sped up, the process looks like a pulse. Bang, expand, collapse, repeat. Its like a heartbeat. Its like we are a tiny piece of some huge life form, and our entire universe lifespan is just a mere heartbeat.
@matta5498
@matta5498 4 жыл бұрын
After the big rip, when the fabric of space is in pieces, could those pieces collapse into a big crunch?
@woobilicious.
@woobilicious. 4 жыл бұрын
Anton has completed misinterpreted what a conformal transformation is, your argument is actually closer to what Penrose has proposed. Its more that photons don't care about traveling huge distances in huge amounts of time, since they're undergoing time dilation. Everything is instantaneous from their perspective. The next big bag basically happens at infinity+1.
@iGame3D
@iGame3D 4 жыл бұрын
Oopsies.
@thomasdahl3083
@thomasdahl3083 4 жыл бұрын
@@woobilicious. Seen from the photon's perspective: Time = 0, so the photon does not experience any traveling at all since the photon is killed (transformed) at the same moment it was created. What I don't understand is how it can accelerate up to the speed of light instantly. They say the photon does not accelerate because it only exists at light speed. If a spaceship had the ability to reach the speed of light by some technical means and travel for 80 years at the speed of light and then slow down again, you would not feel or sense anything of those 80 years, you would just see it almost reach the speed of light and slow down again 80 years later, without understanding the time that passed. Must be a big surprise looking at the cameras recording the trip afterwards. Well, you would have to let the computer show you the most interesting parts or planetary passages, since you cannot spend 80 years looking at the recorded sequence.
@Gunzakudan
@Gunzakudan 4 жыл бұрын
Lul the big rip
@H2SO4pyro
@H2SO4pyro 4 жыл бұрын
@@woobilicious. You mean ordinal ω would be an actual legit date in universe time? Seems quite puzzling. Isnt it that the universe kinda crushes into photons' own time which is a single instant, making the whole previous world's history be worth no time in the new world's reference? In some sense the old universe is moving at light speed compared to the new universe Although those two ways of seeing this idea may be strictly equivalent (mathematical point of view vs relativity p.o.v.)
@kevinking8222
@kevinking8222 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Anton, I enjoy your videos. Thank you. I'm just a lay person, of course, but I don't think you got Penrose's theory right, based on his description of the theory. He does not predict a big crunch, exactly. He says that once the universe is empty, and basically only photons are around, which thenselves don't "experience" time from their own perspective, and thus go to infinity instantly, the cosmos loses all sense of scale. It can't tell how big it is. Basically it gets bigger and bigger and bigger until there are only photons left and it can't tell how big it is anymore and BANG, a new aeon. I don't think I gave it justice here off the top of my head, but check it out!
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 4 жыл бұрын
... and even regular massive particles lose their mass over time, called "mass fadeout" in the CCC theory.
@lordvenusianbroon
@lordvenusianbroon 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to put this in but you've made the comment - great that you've made it! Essentially he says all mass either decays - i.e. all particles e.g. protons have a half-life and they will dissappear eventually (although we've never seen this happen so there is that...) or mass will be trapped by black holes, which slowly dissappear via Hawking radiation. Hence the universe will eventually just become space-time and photons. And then with the loss of all mass, the universe becomes scale invariant as you say, which in Penrose's argument is identical to the conditions at start of the big bang. I am pretty sure it's not a big crunch at the end, because the universe does not collapse in size but can quite happily continue expanding till the end of the cycle. So something weird is happening at that point that seems to 'renormalise' space-time and particle size etc... At least that's my inexpert reading of it!
@RolandPihlakas
@RolandPihlakas 4 жыл бұрын
What I am wondering about in Penrose's theory, is how do the photons renormalise their locations of distances in such a case where the space between two points is not simply huge or expanding, but also in a case where space is expanding faster than the light. In case the space moves faster than photons. How can photons overcome that? Because even after infinite time the photons should not be able to overcome distances that rip faster than the photons.
@X_Baron
@X_Baron 4 жыл бұрын
Penrose's model seems almost metaphysical but he must have some interesting arguments to support it. I wonder how the fading of the last remaining little gravitational effect can suddenly affect the whole universe.
@SeraphFemboy
@SeraphFemboy 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder which iteration of the universe we are in, how many cycles could have passed...
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 жыл бұрын
Infinite number. If there was a first cycle, what caused that? Was that cause eternal? if no then what caused that cause? If you keep expanding your thinking backwards you realize that the there can be no true beginning.
@metocvideo
@metocvideo 3 жыл бұрын
His paper is subtitled “In memory of Stephen Hawking”, which is quite moving, when you consider that Penrose and Hawking were the greatest physicists since Einstein, and Einstein was the greatest physicist since Sir Isaac Newton.
@AweWerty
@AweWerty 4 жыл бұрын
The big crunch theory is the theory that keeps me happy, because at least there will be others universes after ours, which is way better than this universe dying in a infinite blank space
@1492dv
@1492dv 4 жыл бұрын
A thought I had as I watched this video was that these remnants of the previous universe were the "DNA" of this one. I'll leave that open.
@ashiga8023
@ashiga8023 3 жыл бұрын
the universe and time never started and will never end. it was always NOW.
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 3 жыл бұрын
And we have a winner in the comments section. Be Here Now. Box of Rain.
@hrserioussam9204
@hrserioussam9204 3 жыл бұрын
well if you think about it time its not real only humans creats it to measure motion of matter thru space earth etc
@aurelienyonrac
@aurelienyonrac 3 жыл бұрын
Every black hole is a pocket universe. When stuff falls in the black hole, the black hole expand. That expansion is the acceleration of the expansion of that pocket universe.
@Darth_Tim
@Darth_Tim 4 жыл бұрын
6:28 "The big rip" This should have been worked into the "Huge gas clouds coming out of Uranus" video 🤣
@adamflynn7322
@adamflynn7322 4 жыл бұрын
The big R.I.P
@TheGhostPariah
@TheGhostPariah 4 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that I cant like your comment twice lmao.
@Gonenow2015
@Gonenow2015 4 жыл бұрын
Right up there with giant black holes emitting jets of hot gas... which will wipe out all life if you drift through it. Too funny.
@Jack-zt1sr
@Jack-zt1sr 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite topics to think about right here. I currently believe we're in just one of an unknown number of universes that have come to exist and eventually ran their course and went cold, ending in the birth of a new universe through some as of yet undiscovered natural phenomenon. If the conditions were right for our universe to be created once, that suggests it has or will happen again.
@vakusdrake3224
@vakusdrake3224 4 жыл бұрын
You seem to have a misunderstanding of Conformal Cyclical Cosmology, it doesn't posit a big crunch (and is actually incompatible with it). Rather it assumes that given enough time even isolated protons and electrons will eventually all decay into massless particles. Then it does some weird math I don't understand to show that a universe with nothing that experiences time is equivalent to and can be mapped onto the big bang.
@matusmotlo3854
@matusmotlo3854 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe because in a Universe without time, space practically doesn't exist either so it's identical to a singularity? I think I've heard that somewhere, not sure though.
@qwadratix
@qwadratix 4 жыл бұрын
That was my conclusion too. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around Penrose's conformal theory but the takeaway I have is that the universe literally forgets how big it is because there's nothing left for it to make any measure of distance or time. I don't necessarily see this theory as viable - just that it doesn't sound to me the same as Anton's view. Penrose has a book out on the subject for anyone interested. 'Cycles of Time'.
@rabidbeaver167
@rabidbeaver167 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always thought the big bag was kind of like an hourglass, everything was absorbed by black holes and eventually they merged and became so large and condensed in one spot then exploded back out into space, everything is slowly collecting into planets and gas cloud etc but eventually everything will be absorbed by black holes again and it will repeat.
@truthiz7873
@truthiz7873 4 жыл бұрын
Anton: Explains scientific theory and physics to all to understand. Me: just bowled 2 strikes on playstation Wii
@MrCubFan415
@MrCubFan415 4 жыл бұрын
“PlayStation Wii” bruh moment
@omgIoIwtf
@omgIoIwtf 3 жыл бұрын
“you got a uh, playstation 3?” “nah i got GameCast” “well there’s Game Cube and there’s Dream cast, which one you got???” “NIGGA I SAID I GOT GAMECAST DAMN, i can’t afford it”
@lordsofkoble
@lordsofkoble 3 жыл бұрын
A small glimpse of the biggest picture. Amazing!
@Xubono
@Xubono 3 жыл бұрын
The theoretical cyclical nature of the (re)creations of the universe has been a foundation to several sci fi stories, and some notable TV series, such as Battlestar Galactica (the 2000s version) and Lexx. Both riveting in their own ways.
@ZDarabos
@ZDarabos 3 жыл бұрын
And hinduism. They wrote this down thousands of years ago.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZDarabos You are correct and I completely agree with you. I am a Hindu and according to my ancient Hindu religion, Brahma (the creator of this universe in Hindu mythology) created this universe 155 trillion years ago and this universe will exist for a total of 311 trillion years. And when Brahma dies, this universe will 'die' along with him. Then a new Brahma will be born who will create a new universe to take the place of the old universe. And this process continues forever, without a beginning and without an end. My ancient Hindu religion also teaches that there are an infinite number of universes and each of those universes experience an infinite cycle of births (which you can call 'Big Bangs' in a modern scientific way) and deaths (which you can call 'Big Crunches' in a modern scientific way).
@Glen0cide
@Glen0cide 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see this being covered, I’ve liked CCC and penrose for a couple of years
@SeanandStephaniesAdventures
@SeanandStephaniesAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
It makes sense on an intuitive level, though the big question then has to be: Where did the first universe come from?
@therichchronicles1249
@therichchronicles1249 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the intro. "Hello wonderful person" thank you ☺just made me smile
@AST4EVER
@AST4EVER 4 жыл бұрын
According to our Vedic Texts, universe has a life, before it, existed previous Universe, after this will exist a new Universe. After the end of life of a universe, it collapses and a new Universe is born from the previous one.
@hermitcard4494
@hermitcard4494 4 жыл бұрын
According to my sacred book we are correct and ahead of science and the rest are wrong or behind us.
@hiteshpandey6083
@hiteshpandey6083 4 жыл бұрын
@@ranniely he might be referring to Vedas.
@JamesBarraletMusic
@JamesBarraletMusic 4 жыл бұрын
According to the Vedic texts, we are in the 84th cycle. They are not ‘yours’, they are offerings to humanity! No enlightened being ever encouraged divisions.
@vinayjoshi5788
@vinayjoshi5788 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBarraletMusic obviously
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful wisdom.
@spaceteapot
@spaceteapot 4 жыл бұрын
@2:24 "approximately 375,000 years ago, the universe itself cooled down enough" I know what you meant, just thought that was funny.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got a pretty big chuckle out of that, too. He doesn't always proofread his writing very well, LOL!
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 4 жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated by the fact that there was a time when the early universe was room temperature.
@rafaelcuevas3209
@rafaelcuevas3209 4 жыл бұрын
He meant 375.000 years after the Big Bang
@chocolatetobi
@chocolatetobi 3 жыл бұрын
7:23, I had the same idea back in high school when learning about quantum computing.
@alivateRocket
@alivateRocket 4 жыл бұрын
No Penrose does not claim the universe ends in a big crunch, he claims the opposite. Please research more. The infinite expansion of the last universe is the big bang of this one.
@GenXCoder
@GenXCoder 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I was going to make the same comment. Penrose is suggesting that the scale of the universe is meaningless when there is nothing left but photons because they do not experience time. And if there is no time, there are no clocks, and if there are no clocks, distance has no meaning because there is no measurement. We are left with a very highly smooth and scale-less space with no meaningful size. Sounds a lot like the conditions of the big bang? Additionally, the evidence he suggests we can find in the CMB are the gravitational rings left over from evaporating black holes at the end of the previous Aeon. There are studies of the CMB that claim these rings have been observed.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 жыл бұрын
@@GenXCoder It is a heat difference. Not gravitational waves. The supermassive black holes left towards the end slowly contain all the energy of the universe, evaporate slowly and that evaporated energy only spreads out so much, leaving round areas that are slightly hotter than the background.
@smurfchoker1
@smurfchoker1 4 жыл бұрын
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 maybe the last universe changed somehow after it squeezed together, making the end of this one inevitably different. If the theory is true then imagine what the 'first' universe's laws might've been like. Also in this case, the word "universe" is then completely relative, since a "universe" would just be just a series of events marked by a beginning and restarting of our understanding of entropy divided into units of "time", each being their own 'universe'
@user-ep8ns6hg4q
@user-ep8ns6hg4q 4 жыл бұрын
@@smurfchoker1 if you consider that the big bang violated pretty much every natural law it would seem that the universe only has one true natural law: there can never be nothing
@TheExoplanetsChannel
@TheExoplanetsChannel 4 жыл бұрын
What if... there were *infinites universes and big bangs..*
@TheFoodnipple
@TheFoodnipple 4 жыл бұрын
What if I told you that the universe isn't expanding, its rotating...
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 4 жыл бұрын
are you in some kind of religion?
@Koelkastt
@Koelkastt 4 жыл бұрын
The Exoplanets Channel nah, that is another story for what if
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 4 жыл бұрын
@Ross Coe to me thats all it is and will be.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 4 жыл бұрын
@Seymour Kuntz I think there are trillions of them like stars in our universe where there are always all sizes of BANGS but they are for the purpose of getting energy out of them not to create universes.
@kingoffire9373
@kingoffire9373 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Sir Roger Penrose, one of the greatest mathematicians and theorists of our time I think. Right or wrong, his imagination is on point. I have his book the road to reality and just getting through it is nearly impossible due to the complexity. I'm certainly no theorist or mathematician but i do think there is some mechanistic link between black holes and creation of universes, how it operates, I'll leave up to them. My theory i believe is similar to one Smolin has, that perhaps universes are created inside black holes, somehow the matter in there which is so compressed, being released into another spacetime. Whether that's even plausible, i have no idea but it feels right, i just can't express it mathematically haha. So called white holes.
@tobyclayton2597
@tobyclayton2597 4 жыл бұрын
I have, for decades, thought the very same thing.
@kingoffire9373
@kingoffire9373 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobyclayton2597 Maybe it's just because of my technical naivity, but it just seems like if all of that matter is compressed into point at the bottom of a gravity well, what if it somehow falls through out of our spacetime, into an an area where it's released. Idk, i'm spitballing, I wish I had the technical knowledge to actually see if it was plausible, but I think Smolin did some work on it I need to read it again.
@dukenukem1877
@dukenukem1877 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Look. Once inside a black hole, even light can't escape. The same is true for the observable universe - even traveling at the speed of light, you will never reach the edge due to the expansion of the universe. Our universe resides inside a black hole. Perhaps every black hole creates a universe at its singularity. Perhaps there is a mass threshold.
@kingoffire9373
@kingoffire9373 4 жыл бұрын
@@dukenukem1877 See, it's logic like that that leads me to that conclusion, we just can't test it and I can't do the equations, but the logic seems sound. Of course the universe is stranger than fiction and logic may not hold, as has been the case with lots of physics over the years, just wish there was a way to test it, but there may not be. It may be that is how the universe keeps it seperate, it's just a barrier too great for beings INSIDE a universe to cross or know.
@tobyclayton2597
@tobyclayton2597 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingoffire9373 I think that you must be telepathic!
@Predated2
@Predated2 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it makes sense. Once the universe is perfectly equalized, what dictates distance? There would no longer be any information send from one point to another. The death of the universe would be nothing more than a fractal of it's birth.
@princevegeta6679
@princevegeta6679 4 жыл бұрын
Dude the comments section flooded with a quickness on this video.
@Constitution1789
@Constitution1789 3 жыл бұрын
7:25 Imagine a being rushing to transmit that data at the last moment, tossing it into the rapidly closing vortex while its own universe chaotically dwindles into nonexistence. Alternatively, the big bang could've also been a backfired attempt to make space travel easier. An advanced civilization created a way to contract the universe, but once they set the process in motion, they couldn't undo what they had done. The device caused irreparable damage to spacetime, so they had no choice but to preserve whatever information they could in the next universe's CMB.
@heardistance
@heardistance 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea for a S.F book, just write it. It would be great !
@George4943
@George4943 4 жыл бұрын
The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe -- Penrose My physics textbook.
@rafaelshumaker1883
@rafaelshumaker1883 Жыл бұрын
The caption says "Interesting *PROOF* that another verse existed before our own", but then, just 38 seconds into the video, you admit that we really have no idea what existed before, or if anything did at all. I appreciate your honesty, well, other than in the caption (which makes this click bait).
@SafetyFooT
@SafetyFooT 3 жыл бұрын
"The Big RIP..." thank you Anton for inspiring a universe of fart jokes 🤣
@Blood-PawWerewolf
@Blood-PawWerewolf 3 жыл бұрын
A RIP so Big that even Uranus wouldn’t survive it
@SafetyFooT
@SafetyFooT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blood-PawWerewolf see. You took it and ran with it. These are the things greatness is made of 🔥👍
@soupbonep
@soupbonep 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! I can't believe that never crossed my mind! I have a fart joke gear in my frontal lobe and it let me down. It malfunctioned, I must eat some beans...
@Ascendedninja6
@Ascendedninja6 3 жыл бұрын
There are gases throughout the Universe. Does that make the Universe nothing more than one big fart?
@donquixoteupinhere
@donquixoteupinhere 3 жыл бұрын
I abhor toilet humour, it’s so facile!
@doncarlodivargas5497
@doncarlodivargas5497 4 жыл бұрын
I really do not envy those living in the time where the universe collapse, must be an unpleasant experience, how do their apartment look like afterwards?
@manuelc3671
@manuelc3671 3 жыл бұрын
look around
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын
Small.
@zualapips1638
@zualapips1638 3 жыл бұрын
We are the ones that are screwed. At least those beings would know that the universe will restart. We are in a position where we think our universe just rips itself apart and stops existing.
@doncarlodivargas5497
@doncarlodivargas5497 3 жыл бұрын
@@zualapips1638 - yes, that is true, when you know the universe collapse you can wait doing the tasks at home until the universe bounce back again
@DivergentStyles
@DivergentStyles 4 жыл бұрын
The universe is a giant recylcing mechanism, it is beautifull and possibly eternal.
@thebrainless1
@thebrainless1 4 жыл бұрын
I thought perpetual motion wasnt possible? With that thought does the universe actually die?
@yakuldscrafter1
@yakuldscrafter1 4 жыл бұрын
Someday Will happend
@NightRunner417
@NightRunner417 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebrainless1 No. In this model it just has a chronic weight problem where it oscillates between fat and thin.
@radaro.9682
@radaro.9682 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebrainless1 can't destroy energy and the universe is a closed system. So the universe would, in that way, be a perpetual motion machine as it would be incapable of losing energy to anything. If it becomes waste heat that motion is still in the universe. If it condenses into matter it still exists and is accessible. So when taken as a whole there is no loss of motion.
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын
@@radaro.9682 That's bull... They call it work for a reason.
@lelaniaorr9884
@lelaniaorr9884 3 жыл бұрын
You are very versatile. I really enjoy your videos and your perspective, so, thank you. I like to keep an open mind and really reach out there and your stuff really contributes to my thoughts. Awesome, thank you.
@ortherner
@ortherner 4 жыл бұрын
I thought, when a Universe dies, eventually a New Universe appears due to Vacuum Decay. And the Cycle repeats Forever through an Infinite Amount of time.
@mk-3079
@mk-3079 4 жыл бұрын
maybe you just solved the mistrery of this reality and universe BUT we cant prove you are right or wrong so yeah you might be right
@Stroheim333
@Stroheim333 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's Penrose's theory, too. He do not believe in a Big Crunch, contrary to the statement in this video.
@SpiriDussgaming
@SpiriDussgaming 4 жыл бұрын
the question is, how did the universe started existing? it cant just always exist. without a beggining.
@hybridwafer
@hybridwafer 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpiriDussgaming It can't? I wouldn't know.
@thom1218
@thom1218 4 жыл бұрын
@danutzy1993 It actually can... ask yourself: when did the number 3, or 5 (or any number) "begin"? Bad question, because they always existed, whether humans are around to talk about them or not. Matter & energy and the math (built on the foundations of numbers, keep in mind) that describe these systems also have no beginning, and have no end. The universe and all its constituents are a giant cyclic mathematical construct, and researchers have found a mathematical object called the "amplituhedron" (google it) that may actual represent all of reality as a time-independent entity (like a number) The real question is: how does the illusion of time manifest?
@AJScraps
@AJScraps 4 жыл бұрын
The last black hole phase of the universe is so terrifying. Good thing us humans won’t live long enough to endure it 👌
@brucebooker8346
@brucebooker8346 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps in a black hole, out a white hole somewhere else, and creation starts again?
@-aa6991
@-aa6991 4 жыл бұрын
@@brucebooker8346 and maybe that white hole is exactly what a big bang actually is, all the collected matter from all the black holes being sent through time to start a new universe :V
@rajanwarke9182
@rajanwarke9182 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so blackhole is not a wormhole the last black hole is like a planet which as Immeasurable mass thus immeasurable gravity which I think exploded to form our universe but if that's true then why we don't see any black hole explode now
@UltimateFeudEnterprise
@UltimateFeudEnterprise 4 жыл бұрын
We’re in a black hole
@fleetingworlds8610
@fleetingworlds8610 4 жыл бұрын
I have a simple theory based off the black hole theory. I believe once there is nothing but black holes, they begin to eat each other until they are compressed into one singularity, then it erupts after reaching critical mass and explodes, in a incomprehensible type explosion that releases all the energy and matter swallowed from the whole universe in its most basic form, allowing for the rebuild to start over and the cycle to happen over and over.
@tena2sweet
@tena2sweet 4 жыл бұрын
So basically when these supergiant black holes die out they leave a scar. When the new universe forms you can see the scars in the background data. Did I get it right Anton? 😁
@MrWatchingclosely
@MrWatchingclosely 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too. Imagine the scale of those beasts to leave that kind of mark.
@Panyc333
@Panyc333 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more of a callus than a scar but the scar makes more sense.
@BigTadger
@BigTadger 3 жыл бұрын
Who says worm holes aren't those scars those are breaks cuts in the universe going through the universe rather than around
@cristianm7097
@cristianm7097 3 жыл бұрын
The Last Humans from the previous Universe modulated a message into those scars, for us to know there is hope and Life is Eternal.
@ResourcefulNomad
@ResourcefulNomad 3 жыл бұрын
@@cristianm7097 I like this. Maybe our consciousness connects to theirs and we meet after life.
@suziperret468
@suziperret468 3 жыл бұрын
Thank again , Anton , for teaching us about our Universe.
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