SETI Signal From Proxima Centauri Detected Last Year Finally Explained

[@PeeGee85]

Well ofcourse Anton, that's exactly what the Proxima Centaurians *want* us to believe.

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

Interstellar trolling

[@rikib.3444]

Corrected: That's exactly what the government wants us to believe.

[@trumpetpunk42]

I read that in Norm McDonald's voice

[@railgap]

I won't worry until they start sending sophons. >_>

[@mylinuxgr5050]

@@railgap sophons are already here...

[@momenurrahman7723]

I'm eagerly waiting for that day when Anton will say, "Yes, it was definitely aliens this time."

[@kcrules1234]

Maybe 6 months after Jame Webb is launched!

[@brian554xx]

unless he meets one in person before making that video, he would say "it seems to be aliens!"

[@extremechimpout]

that will never happen

[@timluther3431]

@@kcrules1234 If

[@nykytamcdonald]

He will never say it even if an alien was to be sitting right in front of him.

[@Lookoutmedia353]

When is someone gonna pay for Anton to go into space? Come on there has to be someone with enough money to make it happen.If anyone deserves it, it's this guy, he is awesome!

[@almirmaltez]

KZbin

[@jeffclarkofclarklesparkle3103]

Canadian Space Agency should totally hire him! Either as annastronaut, or information specialist lol

[@fuijika]

He could make a go fund me for it, that said I would prefer it to be a like SpaceX VS Blue Origin. It would be more worth it he fly around for more than 2 days around earth than spend 10 minutes in low Earth orbit. Just saying...

[@rileyhoffman6629]

he's afraid of heights...😂

[@Thedudeabides803]

Does he want to? As I age I feel the need to minimize my possibility of dying, not increase it.

[@ChayComas]

Fuck ... I was well into my alien induced existential crisis, and now I have to continue with a regular old existential crisis like some common fool. Thanks a lot Anton!

[@monad_tcp]

It was just a 10Mhz signal from human's computer clock.

[@theresafarese939]

Bummer

[@arkvoodleofthesacredcrotch6060]

Just buy some fun ridiculously overpriced product. It's how we cope as capitalists :p jk btw

[@lorrygoth]

Seriously, the rare earth hypothesis scares me, if there are other forms of life in the universe then I hope we leave enough for the ants when we go extinct, but if life is rare then we are all their is and several people currently have the means to end all life. One stupid human, that scares me.

[@richardkammerer2814]

@@lorrygoth When I retired six years ago, I thought most of my worries would go away. Baloney. I look at our dog just 1.5m away as I type this, and wonder if we have the wrong Order in charge.

[@Dakilangmanok]

A friend of mine and I were recording a song years ago using a small amp I had. We listened to the playback and noticed a blip that shouldn't be there. We turned up the gain and it was someone on a CB radio. I also found out this particular amp when hooked up to my digital piano could get local radio stations heavily distorted :)

[@kivikall]

Heh, I used to have a small and cheap amp where when electric guitar was plugged in and volume was turned to max I was able to listen radio somewhat well :D

[@railgap]

That's the negative feedback loop and / or foldback protection circuits in the amp. Any junction (diode, transistor) can act as an RF "detector" (AM), and that modulated signal then gets inverted and fed back into the front of the amp, where it gets amplified along with the desired input signal. It's quite common, especially with so many illegal linear amps in the CB world. (they are the bane of amateur radio operators operating near 10meters)

[@tobyvision]

I had an 85 Nissan pickup in which you could hear the ignition through the speakers. Also a loud tone would play through the speakers when you drove under an RF toll reader, even with the stereo off.

[@michaellee6489]

its amazing how much interference that electronics back in the day could receive. the shielding is much better nowadays to prevent us from intercepting secret alien/govt. comms.

[@totallylegit4092]

Completely off topic, but my dog loves your voice. Everytime I play one of your videos she gets up to come and watch with me.

[@dannyc.6988]

That's beautiful and adorable for a dog.

[@thomas-beaver]

Your dog is just an alien and is interested in what we know about them.

[@brunnomenxa]

I really like the pauses that Anton makes, in the slideshow.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

"I'm not saying that it's not aliens, but it's not aliens." - Anton Petrov (paraphrased by me...eight minutes ago)

[@DarkMatterX1]

@Peter from NZ I too am on an orbital vehicle in close proximity to the sun. That proximity being 1 astronomical unit.

[@everything777]

It's never Aliens. Pah.

[@monad_tcp]

Well, it is aliens, we're aliens from Alpha centauri pov.

[@Baleur]

Except there's zero Evidence that its not aliens. This paper is a theory of a possible alternative explanation, not evidence of where the signal came from.

[@holdenrobbins852]

Anton today: I'm not saying aliens are everywhere, but basically aliens are everywhere..

[@rileyhoffman6629]

Dashed against the rocks of disappointment... Thanks once again, Anton (you wonderful person) for da truth.

[@ras351]

But would you really want aliens to be that close AND moving towards our planet?

[@KateeAngel]

Read "Three body problem" and sequels by Cixin Liu. You will be thanking god we didn't find any alien civilization

[@tomiantenna7279]

Anton really is a wonderful person.

[@WaterShowsProd]

"O Prime Vlork, The Earthlings have detected our signal." "Instruct Anton to explain that it wasn't aliens!" (Conspiratorial laughter.)

[@Nephilim27]

I laughed way too hard at this. 😂

[@hrsh042]

& it's not a joke

[@u.v.s.5583]

Engage Operation Anton!

[@kieranrollinson8750]

NOT ALIENS?????? AGAIN??????? DAMN!!!!! NOT FAIR!!!!!! WHEN AM I GOING TO HOOKUP WITH A SEXY ALIEN BABE??????? :D :D

[@erikstorm8935]

dun Dun DUN!

[@liveforever4190]

Finally! Thank you, Anton. A few days ago I was wondering wondering about whatever happened with this signal.

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Thank you for keeping us educated. Your work is "wonderful"

[@aimfail]

1/3 into the last book in the ‘Remembrance of Earth's Past’ I’m literally freaked out!!!

[@Jester1411]

great trilogy....a must read

[@thegreatresetofthehumanrac664]

Considering how many factors go into the development of an advanced civilization on a planet. Im not surprised that we didn’t get lucky this time around.

[@photios4779]

Yup. I'm of the opinion there is merit to the "rare Earth" hypothesis, which refers to the conditions suitable for producing a planet where a sentient species is able to evolve being extraordinarily rare. Considering the truly immense size of this universe, "they" are probably out there somewhere. But the odds that any particular stellar system hosts a planet with an advanced civilization may be somewhere in the range of one in a trillion. We may very well be alone in our galaxy, at least at the present moment in time. At any rate, if our galaxy were full of other advanced civilizations, then one has to ask why our planet hasn't already been colonized in the nearly 4.5 billion years it has existed? The fact our solar system appears to be untouched by any alien presence in all that vast span of time implies that others aren't anywhere nearby.

[@renatoandresmartinezrubio8428]

@@photios4779 i suppose what remains to be seen are if the possibilities of intelligent space-fairing life are one-in-a-million habitable planets (roughly 1000 civilizations on the milky way) or considerably lower.. if the Rare Earth hypothesis , we might be truly alone in our galaxy , or there might only be 4-5 civilizations existing beside us , but separated by such distances that comunication is impossible.

[@trent800]

@@photios4779 The Life could actually be poisoned by our atmosphere, they could also be adapted to different gravity or they just decided to no longer expand because there was no point

[@monad_tcp]

We may not have got lucky. But 2 civilization appearing exactly the same time and being able to communicate at the same tech level? Its easier for life to spontaneously appear..

[@arthol51]

@@photios4779 in an infinite universe there will be an infinite number of rare Earths. At the end of the day this makes no differance to us... probably all a waste of money...but then maybe not.

[@NuisanceMan]

Plot twist: it actually WAS sent by aliens who think our desire to communicate is hilarious and were messing with our minds.

[@aprylvanryn5898]

Lmao that could be

[@Nephilim27]

Wouldn't be surprised. Highly intelligent beings can be dicks.

[@darkskyinwinter]

Trolled.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@Nephilim27 That would be clever opportunism; not intelligence.

[@Nephilim27]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver 😑

[@StaffanNilsson1]

I confess, when I first heard about this signal I read everything I could find and fantasized about alien civilizations. Now when I saw this coning up in my feed I scrolled past it. This made my realize that I'd rather stay in my fantasy than learning facts. That's not the best way to live, so here I am. There may still be aliens but this is even more interesting right now.

[@Thoughtful_Balance]

Though I love mystery. I love fact and objective truthful discovery more. It's great that we remain objective and fine tune our equipment in hopes to detect true extraterrestrial life.

[@Einyen]

It's probably the microwave in the observatory kitchen. They can try and correlate the events with lunch, dinner and late night snack time...

[@notsoseriousmoonlight]

A great video! I love when things are explained. It may not be what was hoped for, but it is one more piece of the puzzle. So much is still out there!

[@penpenguin7926]

"Mission failed! We'll get 'em next time!"

[@damondo8870]

13 dislikes, Anton wasn't talking to you when he said "hello wonderful person".

[@martingab2556]

At some point an alien civilization will send us a very obvious signal and we’re still going to find reasons why it’s not lmao

[@rolandthethompsongunner64]

Right. Because there haven’t been any civilizations up till now. Fact is the cosmos should be polluted with ancient extinct and existing civilizations. So the question then comes back to why haven’t we picked up any ? And the most obvious answer is WE’RE totally alone.

[@lorrygoth]

@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Assumeing they are anything like us which is a tall order given that human are so diverse.

[@geemanbmw]

@@rolandthethompsongunner64 that went way over your head ... he was being funny and you come back at him with absurd assumptions/ claims. AGAIN HE WAS BEING FUNNY WITH A LITTLE TRUTH BEHIND IT

[@victormartins8654]

@@rolandthethompsongunner64 This is far from being obvious, and probably wrong. Advanced civilizations would have technology unknown to us. Maybe they figured quantum physics, and can manipulate nature in ways that would seem godlike to us. In my opinion this is more likely than we being alone.

[@yeroca]

@@rolandthethompsongunner64 another obvious answer is that the nearest civilization is too far away to have its signal exceed the noise floor of the universe, at least to our current radio receivers. Also we don't really know where (in frequency) to look and when. And who knows, maybe advanced civilizations abandon EM waves after they figure out how to use neutrinos or gravity waves to transmit across interstellar space. Or maybe they use some phenomena that we don't even know exists. So the search space is huge and our "listening" tools are not really up to the task yet.

[@mooster7]

Anton: “Hello wonderful person!” Me: “Hey, Anton.” 😊

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always anton 😊👍

[@penneyburgess5431]

It would be good if it was possible to determine where the signal really came from. It is just as important to be able to discern what is not as well as what is.

[@MCsCreations]

Did they check if it was a Crossfire signal? Because I BET it was exactly that. It's a radio control signal, from a module you add to your radio. It's used a LOT by quadcopter's pilots and others... With this link - or with Express LRS (which is open source) - you can fly up to 30, 40km of distance... It's a system used exactly for flying long range.

[@teemum.9023]

I have never studied radio technology and I have no idea about it. It is a separate course in the basic studies in college, not in high school psychics. But all these things about waves, frequencies, bands etc. are so important and central in technology that studying those will open a lot of understanding

[@Mandrak789]

We really need radio telescope on the far side of the Moon. Earth is just too noisy.

[@theharbinger2573]

"The Pink Floyd Lunar Radio Observatory" all it takes is time and money --- don't forget to breathe

[@coweatsman]

Interesting. Just need some lunar satellites orbiting the moon, at least 3, to carry the signal to earth because of the radio shadow zone that the far side of the moon necessarily is from earth's perspective.

[@yeroca]

@@coweatsman just get Elon to set up Starlink around the Moon and Bob's your uncle.

[@coweatsman]

@@yeroca I wouldn't trust Elon, that self promoting entitlement narcissist. Beware of billionaires bearing gifts and pretending to care about the environment, adored by his cult followers.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@yeroca Yeah, those satellites fucking up our astronomy?

[@ColdHawk]

The categorical rule in determining if something is generated by an alien intelligence: *”IT’S NEVER ALIENS… UNTIL IT IS.”*

[@nilo70]

Thank you Anton , another interesting episode !

[@luisdj-intecnogy407]

Thats why a radiotelescope on the farside of the moon woould be more useful. Thanks Anton, Great video!

[@slateslavens]

Anton, may I interject for a moment? At some point, we may detect a signal from a non-inhabitable system that _can't_ be explained _in any way_ as a 'natural' signal. What do we do with _that?_ My fear is that given our present 'understanding,' we will discard the signal. _We could be ignoring a signal that could be a probe present in that system sent from a different system._ Basically think of it like this. Earth sends a probe to Proxima Centauri - a system we're _certain_ couldn't have an indigenous sentient civilization. But a civilization from say, Alpha Centauri, is closely watching Proxima Centauri and sees signals from our probe. Rather than wonder if that signal could be a probe from elsewhere, they ignore it because there's no way Proxima Centauri could support an advanced civilization, and fail to realize that they are seeing a signal from another space-faring civilization located somewhere else.

[@prabalagrawal_]

True man! Based on our current technology and understanding we could be missing out on those potential et signals. and who knows they might be sending signals using some different kind of technology from us. We might have missed their messages so many times.👀

[@emuhill]

There is another possibility. That is that perhaps they don't really want to find an alien signal. That this is nothing more than theater. An expensive show at that if it is true. To me right now that is how it looks. They always seem to find a way to explain it away.

[@DavidEsp1]

Bayesian reasoning: data vs expectation. Place your bets!

[@slateslavens]

@@DavidEsp1 expectations win every time. Either because of blind bias or fear of speaking up.

[@TheMrt666]

Why do I feel like we're saying "No" to every single signal to the point when a genuine one comes, we'll still say no.

[@gabrielelder7301]

Non have repeated and the ones that have are pulsars or quasars so we wait for signals to repeat but they never do that's what contributes to the no to Evey signal found

[@darkskyinwinter]

Signs of alien life are like a kid asking "Are we there yet?" If you have to ask, then we're not there yet.

[@mattm3492]

i wish we could trravel light speed. if we could id be one of the first to go on a space ride looking for life. i wouldnt care if i never came back, the possiblity of finding life out there is too important about would be a honor to be part of

[@Django0324]

What use would that be? You will never make it back. No one will hear from you ever again. Besides, 50-80 light years is too less

[@vanhetgoor]

When you connect something to USB, the apparatus gives an identity-code, a manufacturer or a serial-number. The same goes for mobile phones, when switched on they identify themselves to the network. Many things do this, but not all. It would be better if in future this would be done. Now we are wondering what satellite went on drift and wondered off a bit.

[@user-roninwolf1981]

Would it be possible for this "artificial signal" to simply be something akin to an echo of our own transmissions being reflected back at us? Given the distance, I would imagine the signal being 8 to 9 years old by the time it bounces back at us from the Proxima Centauri heading.

[@real-act-xation8043]

I like the title...this guy didn't use clickbait titles unlike the other channels

[@vetal6806]

That's funny because SETI protocols state that they get permission from authorities before disclosing any signals they get. Meaning if govt decides against releasing information about SETI signal - we'll never learn about it.

[@friendlyone2706]

Ever try to keep excited scientists silent? Trust the rumors before NASA.

[@FredPlanatia]

from the SETI protocol: "f the verification process confirms - by the consensus of the other investigators involved and to a degree of certainty judged by the discoverers to be credible - that a signal or other evidence is due to extraterrestrial intelligence, the discoverer shall report this conclusion in a full and complete open manner to the public, the scientific community, and the Secretary General of the United Nations" I don't know where you are getting the cover-up overtones, there doesn't seem to be anything there like that.

[@dragonbane44]

@@FredPlanatia Govt can work around a protocol if it wants. Govt will just ask these "investigators" to write an inconclusive report and cover it up. Investigators won't go against the government if they want future commission/ contract/ work order etc. There would be whistleblowers if someone is motivated enough but that's it.

[@tobyvision]

@@dragonbane44 Short of truly silencing the observers immediately, this is one secret that I think no government on Earth could fully suppress.

[@dragonbane44]

@@tobyvision you do get alien encounter stories from ex military, ex govt officials etc. One third of population believes them, one third doesn't and the rest sit on the fence. Which is what is happening now. It's up to you to trust these alien encounter stories.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Anton os like an "anti Tsoukalos", Tsoukalos "good twin". He used real science, he does actual research, he is nicer and he says "I am not saying it was not aliens, but it is not aliens". Any doubts? Just look at the hair and how much better it looks! Congrats Anton, keep doing a great show and an amazing job improving science literacy fo the commun person!

[@ryansears4387]

How was the Doppler shift that seemed to be timed to Prox Cen get explained? That'd be interesting to know why it seemed to be in time with Prox Cen.

[@guilhermemoritz7353]

I would like to understand that too! Was it a very lucky coincidence? Well, statistically, it will happen eventually, but in the first one? Holy jokes on us, universe. Or perhaps is the first one because it matches de doppler shift? These answers are for my future self to hold down the expectations... or not.

[@timminh468]

Ikr, I want to hear him explain that. The reason why we haven't detected any Alien signals is because all of our theories are either "Probably not Aliens" and "unlikely not Aliens".

[@railgap]

One used to be able to obtain the entire image catalog of things like Voyager on laserdisk. Single-framing through these catalogs in the late 1980s, one would occasionally come across a blank black frame with text explaining that the image had been lost or whatever. But in a few instances, there were blank black frames which read, "this image not available for national security reasons". This got us excited for a while until we suspected the reason was classified satellites passing in front of the ground stations. :/

[@daverei1211]

And this is why we need a really large radio telescope in the L2 Lagrange point.

[@friendlyone2706]

Better yet, on the moon, to block earth's signals and during the l year night, the sun's signals.

[@friendlyone2706]

@Cancer McAids Shaded from sunlight, but not earth's electronic noise, which radiates outward all directions. A base on the far side of the moon, during the lunar night would have the mass of the moon shielding unwanted noise. The L2 location is the preferred place for any orbiting telescope for all wavelengths from very short to extreme radio. The Webb telescope --- if nothing goes wrong -- will be a game changer.

[@friendlyone2706]

@Cancer McAids True, but during that night, you get more blocked by the moon's bulk than can be in the shade. We need both.

[@witwisniewski2280]

What happened to publication regarding BLC1? The media were saying at the beginning of 2021 that two papers would be published very soon, such as March or April 2021. One paper would present the detailed signal analysis answering all contemporary questions about signal characteristics; the other presenting the philosophy applied to differentiate extraterrestrial origin or not. Seeing 963 comments in 2 days reveals that lots of people want the facts disclosed, and have not forgotten about the event. Nearly everyone agrees that the signal was/is very valuable for exercising our vigilance in SETI because it forced us to ask hard and new questions like never before.

[@LovelyNucleus]

God damn it... Its never aliens til it is...

[@JobBouwman]

...too late.

[@pvthudson5069]

The way he smiles at the end is like a happy child.

[@Damien89JP]

GET THIS MAN TO A MILLI HE DESERVE IT CMON GUYS FROM UK 👍

[@draelon]

Keep up the great enlightening & entertaining content, Wonderful Person. :) Proud to support.

[@Notdave29]

Perfect excuse to build radio telescopes on the far side of the moon. It would drastically cut down on possible sources of human radio interference.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

How to retrieve the data?

[@trainboi014]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver satellites

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@trainboi014 How would that work?

[@daverei1211]

Anton - there is merch in your “ I’m not saying it’s not aliens, but it’s not aliens”. Make a great T-shirt.

[@richardkammerer2814]

I'm 71, so I think I could get away with wearing that t-shirt. Great idea!

[@LokaJohn]

It's never aliens :(

[@KELEVRA791010]

But it’s aliens…

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

It only needs to be aliens once. After that, no one will be wearing tin foil. 🤣🤣

[@davidsmithsmith5679]

SETI: We detected an alien signal. FBI: No you didn´t.

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

I still don't understand how the signal only occured when the telescope was pointing at Proxima. How does the explanation account for that? I'm not saying its wrong, i just woud like to understand.

[@Shaden0040]

Intermodulation aka harmonics.. sympathetic frequencies that resonate with the original tone(s)

[@thedoruk6324]

*My Dissapointment is immeasurable & my day is Ruined* Another solar black hole intersellar object flactuation thingy bugaloo

[@jaselrod]

LOL!!!

[@garyedwards5345]

Intermods do happen, but that doesn't explain the doppler shift component of the event nor the narrow aperture of the detection.

[@beardymcbeardface69]

Radio receivers even cause interference to themselves, due to things such as local oscillators being required for heterodyning and the harmonics which those oscillators can cause, along with power supplies, display refresh rates, etc. I've been out of radio engineering for decades, so now I'm curious how modern high tech radios deal with these sorts of self interference for important scientific applications.

[@threeMetreJim]

If the signal has Doppler shift, then it has to be from an orbiting satellite rather than a geo-synchronous one. It should be possible to estimate the orbital speed from the amount of frequency shift over time. Some satellite that transmits signals 928MHz apart, or possibly some sub-multiple of 928MHz, would be one to generate the signal. It sounds a little like GPS, GLONASS, or some other positioning service that transmits a civilian and military signal at the same time, on two different frequencies. I guess you'd only need a minute amount of IM to be received by a huge radio telescope antenna.

[@TheEVEInspiration]

I call a conspiracy to hide the aliens ;) BTW. No *intelligent* civilization will try to communicate with us!

[@massimookissed1023]

Great (!) So we're just gonna get spammed by spacetards.

[@LowenKM]

Thx Anton, and that these kinda highly volatile red dwarf stars make up the great majority of the galaxy, is probably another explanation for the Fermi Paradox, aka, "where are they?".

[@sarnxero2628]

Anton confirmed member of the ETO covering up contact with the Trisolarans.

[@sirpercarde709]

At first I thought you said ELO and I was hyped that Anton joined a band!

[@markmarsh27]

I heard a story 20 yrs. ago about SETI receiving part of an I Love Lucy episode that had been broadcasted 50 years earlier. ... The story concluded that the signal had reached a super massive high energy object 25 light years away that bounced it back to Earth.. ... I have NO IDEA if this story is true but it's a COOL story either way.

[@eeka_droid]

Aw man, we had so much fun preparing a party for the aliens. Seems like we'll have to postpone it again :( ThAnK YoU ANtoN

[@Erniethebear]

Don't worry. They're already here.

[@ginnyjollykidd]

Intermodulation sounds like a phenomenon musicians can create by playing a root note and singing its fifth while playing. The result creates the third Interval,and it makes a major chord.

[@brodiering]

Kind of a buzz kill of a title, Anton. 🤣

[@DaraM73]

Harmonic frequency responses are called sympathetic resonance in music.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

This is a cover-up. The Doppler shift can't be explained away as harmonic interference - it was detected for hours! any satellite would be on the other side of the planet way before that - it would be impossible that the strength of the signal didn't change at all. Modern radio gear doesn't drift like that - especially given a frequency this high? would require very professional equipment. And finally? if it was a human signal? signals are used for a REASON - why isn't it modulated? where's the data it's carrying? are we to believe that sensitive radio-telescopes that can listen to rovers on the surface of mars - couldn't detect any modulation in a signal that was coming from the same planet?

[@JohnnyWednesday]

And before anybody says it? Geostationary satellites have no doppler shift - the clue is in the 'stationary' part. This stinks of being hastily covered up.

[@gooberclown]

@@JohnnyWednesday I wonder if amateur radio astromers could monitor the region of Proxima Centaurus and subsequently detect-- and record -- a modulated carrier, that can pass the initial requirements for a high RIO SCALE rating? Any publicity of such an event, or series of such events, would catch on like the gold rush hysteria of the 19th century.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

​@Cancer McAids - Those are some very good points, thank you! - but a long period orbiter? to stay within the receiving cone for that long? to my knowledge we don't use orbits further out than geostationary for earth facing systems - they'd orbit slower than the rotation of the planet - not as useful as faster or the same rate. And that shift was significant - I do a lot of amature radio work - one thing I do specifically? is receive images from a couple of different types of weather satellite. Those signals do shift because of Doppler - but they are also very obviously not shifting by a constant rate - as their position above the earth changes in relation to my antenna? they appear to move at different speeds. I see no reason why this hypothetical orbiting object wouldn't also display a clear change in the rate of 'drift' - over such a timescale. Plus the fact that it kept station for many, many hours? How could it possibly be an object that would stay within the lobes for that length of time - suggesting a near geostationary orbit - yet display such a high doppler?

[@JohnnyWednesday]

@Cancer McAids - "and finally" (sorry) the 'receiving cone' of such a radio telescope? is quite tight! that's a relatively small space for an orbiting object to stay within for that long - over many different nights! if it were a slow orbiter? the following night? if it's higher than geostationary orbit? it can't complete an orbit in 24 hours - ergo it wouldn't be at the same point in the sky. This happened over months too! - we're saying it's so close to geostationary as to stay at the same spot in the sky for weeks - but still fast enough in relation to us to show a clear Doppler? the two - at least to my mind - make no sense together.

[@lincolnlog5977]

It’s not a coverup. Chill.

[@m1k3droid]

according to the paper, they did not actually identify what the source of the signal actually was, so they cannot actually claim it was man-made. There is no reason not to suppose that alien radio technology does not use similar electronic components. this paper is a rush to judgement.

[@BLD426]

That's not good clickbaiting at all Anton. Try: "Conclusion reached on message from aliens".

[@kingpaw9572]

This guy is definitely working with the illuminate

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[@jacksteven781]

but how does intermodulation explain the doppler shift that we saw in the signal?

[@Graeme_Lastname]

Would be very interested in knowing what tech uses 982MHz for a clock or a LO. I know just about anything could, but, what actually does? It's not exactly 982 and I'm wondering what that particular offset is about. Doesn't intermodulation require a non linearity to produce the sum and difference frequencies? I've always thought it did. I really do have an interest in this because I'm certain that the surrounding circumstances have never before occurred in my life and I would really like to understand the basic physics of it. Keep well m8. 🖖‍ 👌‍

[@geartweaker8518]

Only channel i watch regular enough to notice their hair grow in real time

Why would an alien civilization use narrow band carriers for communications? We, just within the last century went from narrow band CW telegraphy to ultra-wide band digital communications which, as of now, cover most of the currently available (usable for us) radio spectrum. From a few kilohertz to a few hundred gigahertz there is basically nothing but wide and ultra-wide band radio telecom. Some systems can do such modulations that they appear indistinguishable from white noise.

[@goldenphoenixpublish]

It may be useful to not only look for signals operating at 'unnatural frequencies', but also analyze them for intelligent encoding. Was any attempt made along this line as well?

[@sarah-janelambert8962]

I'm still confused. Does intermodulation explain the doppler shift and the direction of the source? Why would satellite interference be tracking the movement of Proxima B across the sky?

[@tossedpenny]

Aliens: "Greetings, people of earth. We welcome you to the galactic community with open arms and hearts." Earth: "Greetings. We've been trying to reach you regarding your interstellar vehicle's extended warranty." Aliens: "Sorry, wrong number."

[@bradfordhatch5085]

I was wondering what this turned out to be, but figured it would turn out to be something mundane just because it was taking so long for them to make any kind of announcement about it at all after the media made such a big deal about it nearly a year ago.

[@mbj__]

Ok, so the frequency could perhaps be explained, but what about the doppler effect?

[@frankcastle4169]

Could be an alien civilization visiting and communicating with one another. That would be so cool.

[@grumpy-_-ghost3911]

I love this channel!

[@spockospockon6519]

I have been a seti@home member since 2000 we all were shut down when the Arecibo telescope failed. We're hoping they can update the telescope with brand new components the basic dish is still usable as the cable holding the receiver failed they can rebuild it with 21st-century technology. With help from anyone willing to support the effort to supercharge this next receiver.

[@lo3769]

"The basic dish is still usable"? No mate it got smashed by the receiver cabin falling onto it in December 2020. It's a goner, but apparently there are plans to rebuild a radio telescope there.

[@roymcgregor3958]

You are the wonderful person bro

[@DanielNistrean]

Keep an open mind. Having a natural explanation !== truth.

[@DanielNistrean]

Btw title is misleading. It was not definitive proof of anything, yet.

[@XxTheAwokenOnexX]

Iam disappointed it was not Alien's trying to tune into KZbin to watch Anton's wonderful videos lolz

[@lorensoth4365]

Thank you Anton. We appreciate your very factual and breakdown for us to understand. Great job as always in presentation.

[@olencone4005]

Dang... guess I should return the goldfish to the bowl and the towel to the linen closet -- no hitchhiking for me...... :P

[@ESL-O.G.]

IT'S NEVER ALIENS WITH MR. ANTON

[@JMFSpike]

It's a bit of a stretch to say it's "explained" when when we still have no clue where it came from. We simply have a little better idea of where it might have come from. That's pretty much all that's changed.

[@tempusfugit9009]

out of all the YTers out there,. Anton would be only i would believe if said aliens were on the way or here already. thanks for your time as always.

[@Zazz_Blammymatazz]

Great news! It would suck if the closest star system to our own was already occupied! 🤣

[@goordy]

Or very very very cool

[@davidboyle1902]

The study I'm waiting for is the one that definitively identifies an earth-like planet. From a 'where do we go from here?' standpoint, knowing there are in fact places where life like ours can exist is far more important than jumping through hoops looking for so-called intelligence (which even on earth seems to be in short supply).

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Anton, Sabine Hossenfelder just destroyed the "delayed choice" experiment in quantum mechanics.

[@chrisanderson7820]

Statistically speaking if there was a radio using civilisation on Proxima in the same era as our radio using civilisation then the entire Milky Way would need to be populated with billions of alien races and the Drake equation would have a whole bunch of its variables set to 1.0

[@garygough6905]

Unintended radio emissions. Real life story. Broadcast towers have guy cables, at the bottom these are grounded. So multiple steel cables, several hundred meters long, clamped to a copper wire ( welding cable size ) with a ground rod at the end. This is normal. At one site we were broadcasting a few milliwatts on a restricted frequency, and were jamming a police repeater. First assumption was a transmitter problem and lots of effort was made to eliminate that. No change. It was then noticed that the tower installers had looped excess ground wires around in a loop at the base of the guy cables. Dis-similar metals forming diode junctions, a loosely tuned circuit and a very strong excitation field. 5th harmonic of the aural sub carrier. Bolt cutters fixed the problem.

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Thanks for a good presentation on exactly what kind of technosignature this signal had. However, you also demonstrated conclusively that a radio telescope on or near Earth will detect millions of technosignatures every time it operates. Earth technology produces huge numbers of technosignatures, but so far we know of no ALIEN technosignatures. You mentioned that this signal was especially interesting because it had almost exactly a round-number frequency in Hertz. At the time of the original publication, at least one prominent scientist mentioned that this was very strong evidence that the signal was of Earthly origin. As a unit, Hertz is an inverse second. A second was originally defined to be a particular round-number fraction of one Earth year at a precise point in geological time. In other words, Hertz has 21st century Earth written all over it.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

What about the explaination for the doppler shift in the signal?

[@friendlyone2706]

Not explained

[@nobodyknows3180]

nevermind, I rewatched the video - it's early on, like 1:30 or so

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

@@nobodyknows3180 they are comaparing the doppler shift of the star to the signal. What I would to hear is the explaination why the doppler shift patterns match?

[@nobodyknows3180]

@@patrickradcliffe3837 I'll rewatch this video again. So many times, I have Anton's videos playing in the background, that I miss stuff.

[@nobodyknows3180]

I couldn't get enough out of Anton's limited explanation of the doppler shift, so I simply googled "Doppler shift in BLC-1" and found several articles on the subject.

[@robhendrikx2198]

The doppler effect from Proxima Centauri is comparable to that of a pedestrian passing you by on the sidewalk.

[@tinahickson6352]

Appreciate the update.

[@DavidEsp1]

What of the apparent correlation of frequency variation with expected Doppler shift (if source were at Proxima Centauri)? Initially highlighted but ultimately ignored in this presentation.

[@roachedyourmom1357]

Literally what I've been thinking since the "explanation" of this signal. That always seems to be conveniently left out of the explanation. Seems like a pretty big detail to me.

[@xristos2141981]

They are not talking to us but thanks for information.👍