Important TRAPPIST-1c Updates From James Webb Space Telescope

[@nomdeguerre7265]

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[@lindaseel9986]

Well said!

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We just makin' stuff up about the things we don't understand, oh yeah!

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[@PeterTheVald]

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[@lindaseel9986]

Oh yes.😊

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Only 100?

[@chraffis]

Honestly, seeing as much of the future as possible is the main reason I'm alive in the present.

[@r-kan]

You mean live that long to see absolutely NOTHING? Theyll never find any habitable planet, PERIOD! EVER! EVER! EVER!! we're it, and it fucking sucks!!! I hate this shitty universe!!!!

[@stonebreaker399]

1000 years!

[@micmacha]

Let's take a moment to digest how insane it is that we live, in an era, in which we can study the _atmosphere composition_ of _exoplanets_ . Let's sit with that for a moment.

[@foundationofthought7155]

Not really, we can see light passing through and infer a lot. Still amazing, but I wanna live in the Era where we can go there in person

[@SiriusSphynx]

You can do that. I'm busy.

[@TheRealQuartz]

this man is above all of us if he's got something better to do than go to other planets💀 but then again paying bills is a bitch so I see why.

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[@dennisclimer2780]

Same lol

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As it should be ;-P

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[@dray7579]

Same here

[@lindaseel9986]

Me too!

[@mandelbraught2728]

Yeah, while I'm totally excited about the trappist observations from an astrophysics pov, I've been kinda wanting to get it over with because my understanding is red dwarfs are just not good candidates for life because of the solar flare thing. There's been a bit of hype around Trappist and it worries me a bit. Of course, it would be totally epic if there are atmospheres around d,e,f, or g because it would massively increase possible homes for life, but I feel I have to manage my expectations on this one.

[@jeffbenton6183]

My thoughts exactly. And the stellar flare thing is just one of several things that are each make life-we-know-it a non-starter around red dwarves. We have been conditioned for far about a century to assume that other Earth's are very common throughout the galaxy, but there's precious little evidence for that.

[@nomdeguerre7265]

I think it worth noting that atmosphere does not habitability make. The absence does though pretty much (but not entirely by any means) rule it out. Europa has no significant atmosphere, but however inhospitable it may be it’s not uninhabitable per se.

[@mandelbraught2728]

@@nomdeguerre7265 fair point :D

[@mandelbraught2728]

@@jeffbenton6183 yeah good point, I'm guessing you mean like tidal locking - which is another whole giant problem. Although, I still hold some hope, generally, because I think there are still planet detection limitations and next-to-nothing in terms of actual atmospheric spectra, at least to my very limited knowledge.

[@Pyxis10]

Add to that a study I read claiming they are hotter in their pre main sequence than they are when they settle down, which would bake any planet in the future habitable zone for almost a billion years. Even worse, we could find oxygen atmospheres there, at 1000 times earth sea level pressure.

[@ardentdfender4116]

Thanks Anton for keeping us so well informed in Astronomical happenings and understanding.

[@TheLawCoyoteTLC]

How does Anton consistently come up with such incredible astronomical imagery?!

[@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024]

He has a good camera phone

[@uplander2396]

He was born the goat 🐐 🏆

[@tturi2]

space engine I think

[@peasant8246]

NANOMACHINES, SON!

[@peter-johnjones5869]

He just zooms in on his android phone.

[@brianschwarm8267]

Thank you for the update Anton. I hope you and yours are well.

[@Lisa-Azra_Broad]

Super exciting, thanks Anton

[@synapse349]

Anton keeps me wonderful every day

[@lazadaisical8637]

I enjoy the reminders, love your teaching style.

[@americanonoir]

Excellent video. I also like the oddly comforting way you pronounce the word nitrogen

[@astrotherapist]

Anton, your videos are amazing! Where do you find the pictures/videos you incorporate into your main video? The "special effects" which show how Carbon Dioxide should or could look on a planet was just absolutely mind blowing! As for the content. You take highly technical scientific "mombo jumbo" and explain it in a way that the average person can understand. Sometimes your videos are about topics I don't care that much about so I don't watch, but when you are discussing something I am interested in knowing, you always do a fantastic job of explaining the information. Thank you!

[@wanderer6972]

You should do more experimenting with Space Engine videos, those were a lot of fun!

[@EventHorizon31]

Let's go TRAPPIST-1d.

[@Alondro77]

1d is almost certainly a steam or Venus-like world. It's density is a bit low, meaning it must have a large percentage of volatiles. It's probably had a runaway greenhouse effect, but as close as it is to the star, a hot puffed up atmosphere might eventually start to deplete from the solar wind and eventually have an Earth-atmospheric density stage.

[@thedoruk6324]

​@@Alondro77for now we have literally no idea. We have only two major planets 1d and 1e that have likeliness for habitability

[@glorymanheretosleep]

TRAPPIST-1e will be the one with life as they are following Sol-1s order.

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

@@glorymanheretosleep life? you are an optimist. life is a freak accident that happened once in the galaxy.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@user-hh2is9kg9j nope

[@ryanb9749]

This week's space science has been amazing. First the daily updates from Avi Loeb and then this.

[@Omni_Shambles]

Honestly these guys suck at this. Speculating about planets that will never be seen by human eyes.

[@NoidoDev]

>Avi Loeb Hmm, based on science or fantasy?

[@franciscopagan3255]

Greetings! A pity that the exoplanet Trappist b is too hot (107 C) for life and has no atmosphere. But I know that Trappist c was discovered a fine atmosphere. This increases the possibility that some of these exoplanets may be habitable. Thank you wonderful Anton!👋🏼

[@richardkammerer2814]

In the event there are space shrimp available, this could be a very interesting hub.

[@r-kan]

They never discovered any atmosphere on C. That havent finished checking it!

[@susanjane4784]

So excited about this. Way back in the dark ages, I followed the initial planet discovery. We've all been waiting for Trappist to wow us!

[@r-kan]

Ironic statement?

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Very informative,nice,thanks 😊

[@rayriley4020]

Thanks Anton for your hard work.

[@delsings]

Thanks very much for this Trappist update! That system is fascinating to me

[@evasartorius9528]

Thank you again for the time you take to make this make sense.

[@Lesser302]

Hello great work. I love how I can be doing something so mundane and the Anton has me out in the solar system witnessing creations I could never understand with out him 👍🏽💆🏻‍♂️🧐🙃🍻

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G is the spot!

[@deant6361]

These videos keep me going at the moment thanks for sharing

[@yaboy162]

Thanks for the updates Anton!

[@john_smithchiropractor3931]

If Aliens ever made contact I want to hear about from Anton.

[@Midlifecrisis-g6u]

Good stuff Anton.

[@stargazer5784]

Thanks for the important update. 👍😎

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

Trappist-1c is well outside the habitable zone so the latest results shouldn't be too surprising. Hopefully things will start to get more interesting from here.🤞🤞

[@manachromeYT]

Here's how all planets are volcanic death trap worse than Io due to title effexts

[@mahyar305]

looking forward to e and f in particular 🙏🙏🙏

[@johnsamson9889]

Wonderful, Anton. Thank you.

[@liammurphy2725]

Thank you Anton.

[@thelostone6981]

Ha! Just hit me that, as a 49 year old hooman, the light we are seeing RIGHT NOW, left the Trappist system left when I was 8. Also, the Olympics were in Los Angeles, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was released, and Scarlett Johansson was borne!

[@brick6347]

I've always thought that red dwarfs are a suboptimal place for life. They flare too much, and the habitable zone is way too close so the planets are tidally locked and likely to have their atmosphere stripped bare. Not saying life isn't possible there, and we should absolutely look... I just don't really expect much to be found (Well, apart from fascinating science of course).

[@thedoruk6324]

+brick6347 I mean we still have two major planets remain unchecked trappist1d and trappist1e. Those might bear some results

[@brick6347]

@@thedoruk6324 we shall see!

[@shaunosmorrison8385]

Not all the red dwarf stars are flare stars

[@thedoruk6324]

@@brick6347 I personally think they would checked and scanned all the system and planets first than give a solid conclusive report. As saying the entire system is barmen just by checking planets closest to its star is kinda weird

[@infinitemonkey917]

@@thedoruk6324 Unlikely. Red dwarfs are hostile to life.

[@kevinsayes]

Thanks Anton

[@dubsar]

Thanks!

[@whatdamath]

Thank you

[@stevenkarnisky411]

None of us have enough information to know how common life is or what form it takes. Every bit of data puts us a tiny bit closer to solutions. We know life can exist around a star like ours, but we know stars like ours are uncommon. Until a civilization figures out how to put a big neon sign above their galaxy, saying "Here we are!" , we are not likely to stumble upon one another. On our journey to find life out there, we have hardly even put our shoes on our feet. Thanks for sharing another clue on theroad with is, Anton!

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

I remember being so excited about this solar system in 2017. I was so happy that a possibility of not one, but several habitable worlds in one solar systems. But I guess like most things in our universe, it looks void of life. 😔 But we never know

[@joshgreen2164]

Thank you, Anton. I love your channel. Never fails to both inform and cause joy thanks again

[@danoblue]

My feeling is that we will probably find that the other planets in this system cannot support life and maybe don't even have atmospheres after 7 billion years of red dwarf flaring. But we will learn a lot about a planetary system around a red dwarf star, and will be able to apply that to the Proxima Centauri system, which we can't study in the same way. I wonder if any of these Trappist planets have moons, and whether that would make a difference if the moons were large enough to affect the planet they orbit, much like ours does. This is an exciting time for exoplanetary science.

[@KnightspaceORG]

Exactly. Even if not a single planet has atmosphere, it's an incredibly rich source of data on planetary systems around Red Dwarfs.

[@HupfderFloh]

Next April 1st, I hope Anton will stoically announce mid video that we received what appears to be odd cartoon shows coming from Trappist-1g

[@BenTheBuilder]

Thank you!

[@luislicona386]

Maybe it could turn out to be a Mega-Ganymede with an internal ocean! 😀 it’s pretty close to a massive object and that’s bound to create some internal heat

[@manachromeYT]

It's surface is too hot for that

[@EPearson07]

Could you generate electricity on a tidally locked planet by utilizing the temperature differences on both sides of the terminator?

[@simohayha6031]

You can probably in various ways. A good method would be harvesting the power of the wind. Such planets will have massive, absolutely massive gales blowing from the cold to the hot side. Like permanent hurricane level winds, but linear. Except you'll want a different design than the windmills we have, since regular wind mills would fly apart under such conditions. Also imagine harvesting solar energy on the sunny side. But that depends also on how cloudy everything is.

[@tturi2]

​@@simohayha6031the atmosphere could be thinner on the cold side because of the permanent tide, if the wind isn't planet wide it could even be liquefied from the cold

[@IronMan-kz8tg]

The Seven Sisters star system Pleiades an Zeta Reticuli are always nice to look at .

[@aidarosullivan5269]

Just a week ago we talked at Uni about Trappist system and wondering if JWST will give us complete answer to it's habitability

[@terrybrady1644]

🤗 many thanks. 😊

[@dhj1182]

Great channel Anton

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always anton. Thank you. 🙏😊

[@BleachDemon707]

Sycophant 🙄

[@tturi2]

its crazy how close to eachother they are

[@huxm5259]

Tempering my excitement about all of the amazing discoveries we have been hearing about lately is a constant meditation for me. The implications of some of these questions can ignite my imagination so quickly I forget we are talking about our actual universe and not some fantastical science fiction movie.

[@PopeRocket]

I wonder if not having a guardian planet like Jupiter affects the Trappist systems frequency of comet/meteor activity.

[@tturi2]

interstellar kinetic bombs could be more common

[@stargazer5784]

​@@tturi2 There's a big market demand over there for those old WW2 steel helmets that the bikers like to wear.

[@vascodesena]

That was a cool gas/fluid model, and should be used to model our current weather system as it appears rather accurate in its flow, density, depth, and distribution ratios. It is a perfect overlay model for our rain patterns today. That model mimicked a Subtropical Occlusion, the stage we are evolving to, and later progressions appear to follow accurate weather evolution patterns. Get to work.

[@WhiteThumbs]

Red dwarf solar systems are so cool because the close proximity of planets would make space travel super appealing.

[@techforthedisabled9514]

Hope they study 1e soon

[@kitastro]

can't wait 😁

[@robdevilee8167]

There's only 1 point of measurement and it has a lot of uncertainty to it, too. Therefore, I think you could conclude that it's likely not Venus-like, but that other possibilities are still wide open. I think you'll have to wait for more measurements so that uncertainty is reduced, before there's a more definitive answer.

[@MCsCreations]

Fascinating as always! 😊

[@smellthel]

I am so excited by golly

[@Free0_0Frog]

Привет Антон!😊

[@andrewmiles2630]

*Just bows in respect*

[@Spacecookie-]

I always get a little sad when the worlds turn out to be lifeless, and not capable of supporting life in their life-time. I keep hoping for some small hint or pointer to there being even just bacteria out there. That's where my wonder lays, when looking at the night sky... somewhere up there... maybe, someone or something's looking back, doing the same.

[@manachromeYT]

It was already too close

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

_~gasp~_ I missed an Anton video‽‽ Noooo!!!! Well, I'm here now, so it'll be okay. 😂 ❤❤

[@apolloeosphoros4345]

ok, one of the good planets is next. STAY CALM EVERYONE!!!

[@jcarroll276]

Hi Anton :)

[@rowandewitt8567]

I'd love to see more of the CO2 cycle visualization shown at 8:55, but can't seem to find it in the description or online.

[@phatmeow7764]

maybe somewhere we have lukewarm Super Jupiters with moons as big or bigger than Earth and habitable?

[@marknovak6498]

We can hope for an atmosphere but we may need a protective magnetic field on one of the planets first.

[@yourguard4]

Venus also has no magnetic field, but a lot of atmosphere ;)

[@Dyingtobeloved73]

Thank you

[@pidginmac]

Cool

[@mt_baldwin]

The problem I have with the reasoning here is that if earth was subjected to this same technique and reasoning then the atmosphere Earth really does have would be ruled out (since the nitrogen can't be explained let alone have an easy/common explanation). This goes right to what is imo a huge flaw in the logic behind how we look for life on other planets. We require it to have an easy or common explanation, we require it to fit our current theory of how solar systems work. Yet our own planet doesn't fit with these theories.

[@KnightspaceORG]

Please don't imply what i think you will imply after uninformed nonsense you just wrote

[@KnightspaceORG]

@@maryjones5710 What you call or don't call me is irrelevant, i'm just tired of reading stupidity from people who deliberately refuse to learn.

[@bhowe8696]

That's exactly what those measurements showed and what I heard when Anton was speaking about it. I'm gonna rewatch, just so I can hear it again.

[@liamodell7191]

We'll never know for sure until we find a way to send a probe there. Maybe using a warp method.

[@M167A1]

The rare earth hypothesis seems to look more and more compelling every time we get any detailed information on another system.

[@mnrvaprjct]

No… we haven’t even looked at 1% of the stars in the Milky Way. Saying this is short sighted, when we have SGL telescopes up and running and still don’t see earth likes - then maybe I’ll buy it.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@mnrvaprjct Also the d and e planets still left unchecked but its odd

[@brick6347]

There's 100-400 billion stars in the milky way alone and we've only examined a tiny fraction of them. 3200 systems with planets, thereabouts.

[@monsG165]

Agreed. Most of these red dwarf systems are tidally locked, then you add the uniqueness of having the moon, continental movements, axis tilt, seasons, and magnetosphere, liquid metal core. I find it extremely hard that we can find something similar within our galaxy or any nearby galaxy.

[@KnightspaceORG]

@@thedoruk6324 Why is it odd?

[@mrben6573]

Fascinating, but when are they going to aim James Webb at Proxima B?

[@-jeff-]

TY Anton for always being our cosmic real-estate agent.

[@BleachDemon707]

Sycophant 🙄

[@frankowalker4662]

Question : How do we know they are tidally locked ?

[@l.m.a.9861]

They are too close to their parent star.

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

Because in all their pictures, they're mooning us. ;-P

[@greggonzales8]

​@@michaelccopelandsr7120😂😂

[@frankowalker4662]

@@l.m.a.9861 That does'nt really explain it. We only have theories to go off. We can't acctually see them. Sorry.

[@frankowalker4662]

@@michaelccopelandsr7120 LOL 👍

[@thedoruk6324]

So... its just another barren uninhabitable rock system...

[@M167A1]

Disappointingly, the rare earth hypothesis seems to be looking more and more convincing.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@M167A1 I mean we still have d and e planets still left unchecked although I wont be too much hopeful about both planets

[@MisterMikhail]

It's possible but these two were also the most likely to be barren

[@oberonpanopticon]

Ah well, there’s probably dozens to thousands of other stars like TRAPPIST-1. Even if it doesn’t have any interesting planets, maybe another solar system like it will.

[@thedoruk6324]

​@@MisterMikhailvery True! We still have the trappist 1d and trappist 1e left unchecked

[@jensphiliphohmann1876]

If any of these planets harbours life, it will do so for really long.

[@kitsunegamedev4526]

Universe is so freaking scary 😩

[@Liberty4Ever]

It's exciting to live in a time when humans are observing planets 40 light years away.

[@RexCalliber]

If any of the next four planets, all within the optimistic habitable zone, has any kind of atmosphere at all, bearing in mind that the system is 7+ billion years old, it will be very interesting. Im surprised they chose to do this survey in this order instead of focusing on Trappist 1e-g first, unless of course they have but are just releasing results in this order.. You know the adage, “how do you keep an idiot in suspense? Tell you later”? That said, in such an old system with a flare star it’s really unlikely that there will be any atmosphere left, even if there was one in the past, but the possibilities are exciting if only to add red dwarf systems to those that could harbour life. Definitely worth waiting for but keep expectations low.

[@iBaudan]

And what if aliens or plants in other planets doesn’t create CO2? We are constantly searching for life as we know it….. that is the problem.

[@TheLeonhamm]

And, of course, factor in that .. what we observe of such-far-away things is now - already long gone history (by the time we observe it, even from observation platforms fairly close to us and thus decidedly distant from what we currently observe at length in light-year calculation). Jupiter-ish stars with their planetary or planetoid (aka moving) moons (and these moons' - moonish - unmoving moons) sounds about right .. for what we seem to perceive at the moment (by our current understanding of the data involved). Would 'life' (as we know it, Jim) survive or even develop on a (mini-sun-dense-like) Jupiter seems improbable (even if for a relatively short burst of energy-measure 'time'), yet 'life' of some sort, more or less unlike 'us', could already happily breed on its planet-like moons; and thus any contact with our mini-micro-bioengendering-gloop/ snot or ickle-ettery .. even at an infinitesimally minuscule quantum-jump level .. could obliterate it (or at least mash it up enough to make the 'planet' suitable for us, by the time we might hope to get there). ;o)

[@pnketia]

I thought there was a recent report that the Trappist Red Dwarf star had a huge solar flare that many astronomers said most likely blew away any atmosphere of the planets in close proximity?

[@AxionSmurf]

Yes. Most red dwarfs discovered to date are flare stars, some much more so than others. It's possible there may be a small percentage of calm red dwarfs. But red dwarfs have another serious problem, which is that it's hard to conceive how photosynthesis would work. If you've ever seen experiments with red lasers vs. other types of lasers on photosensitive surfaces that leave a streak in the path of the laser, you'll know that red lasers are by far the weakest kind and it's because of the red light which is low energy. Low energy light means less energy for plant life. Though it's entirely possible there is some crazy method in nature we have never seen before that enables something like earth plants to grow on planets around red dwarfs.

[@JACK_TheAllSeeingEye]

ANTON: With current reports of govt disclosure of unreported technologies, I was wondering if you could explain ZERO POINT ENERGY Thanks dude😁🍁👍

[@j2kerrigan]

I love traps Edit: trappist*

[@gregorysmull8068]

What the study shows is that there is not a carbon dioxide dominant atmosphere, nothing more. One could make an argument that the results show a small amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. This could be a water world with a steam atmosphere and there are other possibilities.

[@mikelouis9389]

Sounds like a job for the crew of Firefly

[@sprootown]

Since planetary bodies with a perpetual bright and dark sides, might we construct a Stirling engine....a large one. It may work better on low gravity for energy.

[@alwaysbored47]

I quite literally listened to a lecture by Dr Laura Kriedberg on exactly this last Friday... I am not sure if coincidences are supposed to be this obvious

[@jameshonore1072]

i think F has the best chance E F and G i think all have some type of atmosphere.

[@vascodesena]

Proportional Distribution of Mass

[@whirledpeas2514]

But if there were something there or elsewhere indicating any sort of civilization, would they tell us or covered it up?

[@CodasTalon5013]

Great video, very informative, please please please, speak just a bit louder would you?

[@trevorborrens]

cliffhanger ending

[@hailholyghost]

What's the link for the paper?

[@rowshambow]

Will they be looking at the other planets in the system now? 😊

[@Angl0sax0nknight]

Think looking at red dwarf star systems is a waste of time. M type stars are just to active compared to K or G type stars.

[@babyUFO.]

3:24 Well they are wrong. 1/2 the mass at 1/2 the distance means the gravitational conditions are identical to normal non-tidally locked planets.