Alice Goes DARK! The Villain of Wonderland? (Lydia The Bard)

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@OwlQueen375 Ай бұрын

The implication this is a child going insane makes this less of a villain song and more a sad one. She's dreaming right? A dream so intense it breaks her mind.

@michaelrauch8629 Ай бұрын

@OwlQueen375 I agree, its haunting and so sad

@inkblooded1058 Ай бұрын

See, I don't know. That could be the implication, but I think there's more to it. I think this is more of a Coraline situation; a doppelganger that is in Alice's mind, a shattered version of her warped and corrupted by Wonderland. When she finds the door out, we see the blue hands escape first, which means that this reverse Alice, the one born in Wonderland, claimed her body. The reason I don't think it's so straightforward is the mirror shattering in the real world and her parent's transformation, as well as the corpses the Other Alice left behind, rather than corrupting. Taking this literally and not allegorically, this is a story of an invasion of our world by Wonderland, with this evil and twisted Alice at the helm. This is the start of her villain arc. Alice entered Wonderland, and it's madness warped her into two selves. But because Wonderland is a place where whimseys become reality and madness reigns supreme, the Dark Alice became real, still a part of the normal Alice, but also a murderous shade. When she left, she claimed Alice's body in the real world, leaving the other Alice trapped on the wrong side of the looking glass.

@OwlQueen375 Ай бұрын

@@inkblooded1058 I think I get what you're saying but then it's still a young girl who essentially had her life taken over the splintered wonderland mad version of herself.

@inkblooded1058 Ай бұрын

@@OwlQueen375 Oh, 100% It's ultimately how you look at the story. Depending on your angle, it could be one of a few things, but the two I can think of are: a.) Wonderland is real, and the Splintered Alice is her own entity. She is a part of Alice, so she is wherever Alice is, and starts dominating Wonderland, before eventually breaking free and stealing Alice's body, to tear a hole through the Looking Glass and bring Wonderland to Reality. or b.) More the "American McGee's Alice" direction, where Wonderland is more of a state of mind; an imaginary place that Alice goes to in her head. Over time, she becomes unable to separate fantasy from reality, and her mental state decays. She feels as though she's lost in her own fantasy, unable to escape, and her ever-increasing insanity is represented by Splintered Alice, who is really just regular Alice slaughtering her way through Wonderland. She isn't "changing" people, but simply killing them, represented by them being 'infected'. Her escape into Reality is Alice losing her mind once and for all, and Wonderland, the imaginary world, blending with Reality in Alice's mind or maybe an actual physical merging. People become nothing more than figments of her imagination, to be killed and replaced at a whim. The reason I lean more towards option A is because we see victims of Splintered Alice who aren't corrupted, but just killed. If corruption is representative of Alice killing them, then wouldn't the Rabbit have just transformed instead of left a corpse? Even the singing flowers, which Alice ripped in half, were never seen as a mutated counterpart. The only exception to this is the Cheshire Cat, who we see as both a corpse AND a corrupted variant coming out of the mirror at the end. But it could be that Alice simply corrupted the cat after holding him by his tail. Also, side note: Love the profile. Luz is the best.

@artangelsproductions253 Ай бұрын

In the story of this video, it isn’t a dream I believe

@BGTitanAvatar Ай бұрын

Man the small details in the animatic get me every time. At the beginning when she’s walking you can see her eyes actually start to turn the darker color of blue briefly. And then when the rabbit finds her he looks terrified before running, then Alice finds him dead. The way Dark Alice only takes over the denizens that Alice is actively in front of, how she never runs anywhere, because why would she? She’s wherever Alice is. She’s already there. With her own Cheshire grin always on her face. The way the Queen of Hearts is beheaded and her collar makes what’s left look like a rose. She turns her parents into King and Queen chess pieces, which I think is fun (that sounds weird to say but I mean from a narrative perspective). And that at the end we also get flashes of how she killed the cat, the flowers, the caterpillar, and - of course - the rabbit. And the way the song itself basically ends with Alice begging for help but… it’s too late. She’s cracked. Lydia killed this one, I’ve basically been listening on loop.

@PokemonNerd265 Ай бұрын

Yeah, and the characters got killed, too.

@nonzamemange7612 27 күн бұрын

It kind of implies that alice already went mad the minute she entered wonderland and she is unaware of that so it feels like her own subconscious is tricking her by creating two separate versions of herself one that represents her madness and her oblivious innocent side and Mad Alice seems to be aware of this so she's just toying with her good side at this point by taking over wonderland

@ashleypanzica2696 Ай бұрын

"Please, I am begging you, just let me out." Gosh, this poor girl just wanted to go home! But when she finally did, it was too late, she cracked. Also, imagine how terrified her parents were. One minute your daughter's sleeping, the next she's up but something's wrong and she ends up killing you. Terrifying!

@shy2infinity Ай бұрын

The story was in the description of the song, but the gist of it was that when she entered Wonderland its madness sank into her, infecting her slowly with Madness. It created this sort of split personality situation. She thought that if she escaped back to her world, she would return back to normal... However, what she didn't know was that from the first moment when she stepped into Wonderland for the first time, it was already too late.

@anthonymcneil4238 Ай бұрын

I have a very interesting take on this animatic. I think its a case of hallucinating something entirely different to what is actually happening. Alice sees herself, a mad version of herself distorting all these people, but the only character that didnt end up distorted was the rabbit, who was afraid of Alice and tried to run. We see near the end that Alice actually drowned the Cheshire cat in the very same pond in one of the frames that showed up for a split second. The rabbit saw Alice drown Cheshire cat and try to flee, but the next thing we know the rabbit is dead and "Mad Alice" is there. I think the distortion from Mad Alice is the hallucinations way of covering up the murders. Mad Hatter was stabbed in tbe back, and then the other guy was murdered. Wherever Alice goes, Mad Alice seems to follow. The Queen of Hearts is most likely going to execute Alice for her crimes (Although Alice doesnt realise shes the one doing it, she believes its a Mad Version of herself doing all of this) and Alice breaks free and beheads Queen of Hearts, taking her crown and destroying the army. Now, while the Wonderland is still in her head at this point, it breaks free, and the innocent Alice is unable to break free. Then Alice "distorts" her parents (she murders them) and the alice before wonderland is forever lost in her own mind. She only paints in red now, because red is blood. She paints with the blood of those she comes across. Every single character shes come across shes murdered, and once Alice was forever lost to Wonderland, she started killing in the real world too, starting with her parents.

@joanneyusoon3520 Ай бұрын

So you're literally saying that the good side of Alice is never gonna get of the shattered pieces of the looking glass and when her evil side turned her parents into chess pieces, they DIED?!!

@Utrilus Ай бұрын

At first you see Alice's eyes go blue when she is stressed like 4 times. 0:59 1:11 1:57 2:08 At 2:22 she kills the rabbit and begins to disassociate, now there are 2 of her. The one in charge, the mad one, doing wicked things, the wild, the impulsiveness invading. And the sane one, her guilty conscious, whose threads of thought are fading. At 4:24 "wonderland words coming out of my mouth" as her eyes flash the blue of madness. And then they split into 2 again. One thing to notice is the sane Alice has white tiny shoes. The mad Alice has big black shoes. And then in reality they're blended, she has small shoes with black and white striped stockings. When they step out of the mirror world they become one mad little Alice.

@anthonymcneil4238 Ай бұрын

@@joanneyusoon3520 yeah. Essentially what happened. You can hear during the mirror shattering that Alice is maniacally laughing, she's too far gone into wonderland that the little girl who stepped into wonderland is gone forever, basically.

@glamourweaver Ай бұрын

The thing is Wonderland has always reflected how nonsensical perfectly rational children find the arbitrary rules and expectations of adults. Alice being “corrupted” to become like the mad folk of Wonderland is just her growing up under that reading.

@SarahCherriBomb Ай бұрын

If I’m being honest with you, I feel like this is much more realistic to what would happen if a child got trapped in a world filled with crazy people and literal madness, dream or not. I don’t know about the Disney version, but in the original story she was seven years old. Seven! I feel like a grown up would go crazy if they were trapped in what they believed was an entirely different dimension that is literally a world of madness and didn’t know how to get out, so imagine how much harder keeping your sanity would be in that situation when you’re a small child.

@RedFangMoon Ай бұрын

Wonderland is like a dream state so I told the ending of the song as she made it out but she’s stuck in the delusion

@kookies263 Ай бұрын

I have a theory, when her parents appear on part of the scenes like the lake or the mirrors they are all like worried, and I like to think that she was asleep (thats why all of this happened in the first place) but she was sick so thats why her parents where worried, thats kinda why her evil side appeared in her dreams and made her go all mad! It was the moment were Alice was weakened and the perfect moment so she could take control, thats also why her mom was so shocked to see her awake, standing up and with a freaking creepy smile, and then all what happened after.

@ShyasShadow Ай бұрын

I love Lydia's villain songs and I hope she does vanellope from wreck it ralph and Sofia the first as the last princess villain song. If you're not familiar with the show the main character sofia has this amulet that could bring any disney princess to her world.

@brigittegill808 Ай бұрын

Oh my god, endgame Sofia the first would be awesome. Make it like SHE was the one manipulating the princesses into becoming villains by using her amulet. Maybe when they became adults, Amber as the queen turned on Sofia and this was her revenge.

@Merina230 Ай бұрын

@@brigittegill808 That's an incredible idea! Perhaps Princess Elana of Avalor should also be added to the mix, as she was trapped in the amulet for 40-something years.

@gelasiakidd8076 Ай бұрын

NGL with that frame towards the end with her using a rock and slamming down on something, the entirety of wonderland being early onset schizophrenia was my first thought

@geminiamethyst7059 Ай бұрын

I think she slams it down on the Caterpillar from what I’ve seen when I pause at that moment. And I think you might be right about the schizophrenia theory too.

@gelasiakidd8076 Ай бұрын

@@geminiamethyst7059 oh geez now I wonder if she was actually crunching her kitten but saw it as the caterpillar. This is definitely a hurt no comfort genre right here

@michealpinales3271 Ай бұрын

What if Wonderland was real, it would be an annoying nightmare. Because it doesn't run on reason, common sense ethics, or morals. If you throw a average person in there will go crazy after a month. Special worse for a child like her and I don't blame her for it. If I was there, I would go crazy after a week of bs like that.

@thechild6071 Ай бұрын

Happy to see lydia the bards songs get more attention! And i like your analysis!

@migatito1291 Ай бұрын

Something i love about this song is the references For example "I only paint in red now" The queen of hearts liked to paint the white roses with red paint,the way the queen "dies"(behaded) is the sentence she always gives no matter the "crime" "Chasing time,it move so fast" Alice alwais followed the white rabit,who was alwais watching his clock and saying "im late",alice followed the rabit but the rabit was always faster and she lost sight of him And in the movie,alice falls asleep under a tree,and at the end of the movie she is being followed by the citizens of wonderland and the queen that wants to behead her,she runs and then she wakes up after entering a door,the same door alice uses in the video to exit wonderland

@leneilchee1003 Ай бұрын

the alice at the end thats not the real alice so i dont really think its actually alices villain song its WONDERLANDS VILLAIN SONG

@whatitdodave Ай бұрын

Interesting

@juliapakarinen7956 Ай бұрын

I've been waiting for this, this was great. :) Thank you. It would be nice to see you reacting to Snow White's villain song as well, it's really underrated.

@Eric-u2r3x Ай бұрын

The original story funny enough was actually inspired by the writers sister's descent into madness.

@Eric-u2r3x Ай бұрын

Note when I say story I mean the original books.

@ReturnedLO Ай бұрын

I quite like your analysis and commentary on Alice's psychology and how it reflects in Wonderland and the animatic.

@Ace0fspades354 Ай бұрын

6:25 She did get home. Just like in the book, she woke up. Wonderland was a dream and the implication was always that it's in Alice's head. Given this song's context, that's terrifying.

@roxannhyland192 Ай бұрын

Wonderland has invaded the real world, I think that clock tower at the end is suppose to be Big Ben.

@chancetime6420 Ай бұрын

This song/animatic feels based more on the book than the Disney movie. The original book is significantly darker.

@ChillHokage Ай бұрын

This went crazy

@Felix-et6nc Ай бұрын

The wonderland was her dream. She got mad by dreaming this wich makes this even more wild

@Iwannabesaved6 Ай бұрын

Your body prioritizes saftey over sanity 3:21

@KalijahAnderson 14 күн бұрын

You should check out the Alice games. The second one is Alice: Madness Returns. Though trying to find a working copy of it isn't easy these days. It's a wonderfully dark take on the story. Edit to add: In the end sequence, Alice is wearing the stockings from American McGee's Alice, and Alice: Madness Returns. They are the striped ones from the games instead of the plain ones in the beginning of the animatic.

@leilamehrdadi44 Ай бұрын

I love this song

@brigittegill808 Ай бұрын

Please do Lydia's Azula Song "Play With Fire". Its so good!

@Kris-b6f Ай бұрын

His voice is so calming

@ashlynwolff Ай бұрын

CHORUS IS REAL BANGER ❤❤❤

@KalijahAnderson 14 күн бұрын

I interpret this ending in the song as she's gone completely bonkers, and what you are seeing in the real world with her parents is just what Alice is now hallucinating.

@leilamehrdadi44 Ай бұрын

I like this song

@maskedartist3204 Ай бұрын

This title might not age so well once Disney reboots Alice's wonder land if you know what I mean XD

@ohmyshark6030 Ай бұрын

One thing I find cool is that on the beginning she was fighting the evil her but after the queen died she just ran away. She stopped trying to fight her insanity and just tried to escape it which almost never works.

@niakencha Ай бұрын

The fact i could FEEL her going crazy is just messed up

@emilyschomer6715 Ай бұрын

I really want to know how she got those powers

@craftyarts7431 Ай бұрын

The ending of this reminds me of the ending of Alice: Madness Returns

@AUCreatoer Ай бұрын

YES

@cackl1ng.Candles Ай бұрын

This is my analysis of the song. I view it as a villainous origin story: Alice, lost in her headspace “Wonderland,” gradually fell to hysteria only to kill the denizens of her mind-scape into corruption to symbolize killing who she used to be. The sane, fearful part of her tried to run away from what she is becoming, only to be shoved into the back burner of her mind as she looses it. She is locked away, stuck as the ignored voice of conscientious in her head now, only to observe in terror of her actions through reflections. Now completely lost, crazy and filled with hysteria, madness puppets Alice’s body. To cope with this imbalance, Alice expands Wonderland to her reality. This warps everything perceived outside Alice’s mind and body into distorted hallucinations like a child living in critical delusion, visualized by her now-corrupted denizens breaking out of the glass cage and into reality. In mental inbalance, Alice kills her family starting her path of insanity “to paint in red,” hallucinations distorting her family as queen and King chess pieces when she kills them.