What's My Line? - Charles Boyer; Martin Gabel [panel] (Nov 25, 1962)

MYSTERY GUEST: Charles Boyer
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Martin Gabel, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf

[@marcusfultz3266]

After nearly 52 years since the airing of this episode, we thought the footage had been lost or was buried too deep in the archives of storage to be found, but someone did find it and THANK YOU !! A video history of my mother's event as a guest on this show HAS been saved and now I can watch it as if it was live My mother's portion (Donna Fultz) starts at about the 10 min 30 second portion of the clip. Thank you for finding this very special moment in her life for us to share with other family members and friends.

[@WhatsMyLine]

It's great to hear from a relative of one of the contestants-- but I don't want to take credit where it's really not due. This was recorded off the Game Show Network reruns, so it's never been considered a lost show. In any event, I'd love to hear any memories your mother shared about being on the show.

[@savethetpc6406]

Marcus Fultz That's great that you finally get to see this episode that you've probably been hearing about all your life! I'd also be interested in hearing about your mother's perspective on her "What's My Line?" experience.

[@jmccracken1963]

+What's My Line? In fact, the first time that I saw the Donna Fultz segment of this episode was back in the "10 minutes a clip time limit" earlier days of KZbin, as a "stand-alone."

[@nanettethompson2394]

What a very lovely lady! You and your family must be very proud of her.

[@bettycogswell9851]

That is awesome...

[@michaeldanello3966]

Clyde Beatty died in 1965 of cancer, aged 62, only a few years after this show.

[@1aikane]

Thanks so much for posting these episodes here. I watch them often.

[@2emeraldeyes]

I just love to hear Charles Boyer speak, and they hardly let him talk at all in this. I'm heartbroken ):

[@Marcel_Audubon]

Charles Boyer to this day is still the Frenchman to have had the most success in the US. Wonderful actor.

[@Noone58319]

Arlene and Martin together. Adorable.

[@loissimmons6558]

I started watching the WML episodes on this channel in chronological order a couple of years ago. Early on, when I revealed that I grew up in the NYC metro area, someone asked me if I ever knew anyone who appeared on WML as a challenger. My answer was no and since then, I have only come across one person that I knew for sure was related to someone I knew (a boy a year older than me in middle school). This episode connected me to someone I knew, but in a different way. When I was working as a stockbroker, one of my co-workers was a member of the famed Duveen family. Charles Boyer was playing Lord Duveen from that family in the play "Lord Pengo". What was not mentioned during this program was that the Duveen family was Jewish and lost all their European art holdings to the Nazis when they overran The Netherlands and Belgium. My friend and co-worker was one of the more fortunate ones. He survived the horrors of that time period while still in childhood, taking from it a number tattooed on his arm and life-altering memories of things he witnessed and people who never returned. He knew Anne Frank personally.

[@robertfiller8634]

Lois, that is poignant and remarkable.

[@rtflone]

WWII was a terrible time in modern human history. The world still hasn't recovered from it imho..

[@HavensLight364]

If you pause the episode at 22:55, you will get the cutest picture of Martin and Arlene!

[@WhatsMyLine]

+HavensLight364 That is adorable. :)

[@sdkelmaruecan2907]

I was looking at the comments without paying attention, once I read your comment, I got back to the screen and it was exactly at the moment you mentioned, so beautiful.

[@mistergrandpasbakery9941]

Arlene: "...Clyde Bitey." Hahaha! 😂

[@davidsanderson5918]

Wow. That last contestant is most certainly hip. He could be a member of The Animals and they haven't even got out of Newcastle yet!

[@mikejschin]

Lucky lad not to be a member of the Animals. He might have ended up a poor boy ruined by the House of the Rising Sun.

[@jackkomisar458]

Whenever I see someone sign in as "Mr. X", I think of the American foreign service officer, George Kennan. In 1947, he wrote an article in the magazine Foreign Affairs, under the byline "Mr. X", outlining what became the U.S. policy of containment of the Soviet Union.

[@rtflone]

A policy that in many respects Kennan would reject a few short yrs later. His assessment of Mao's victory in the China civil war was pragmatic and spot on in retrospect, but further eroded his influence in US foreign policy. Kennan was accused of treason by Sen McCarthy in the anti communist hysteria for his view that Stalin was not interested in world domination. He was even investigated by FBI which horrified him. The more things change the more they don't..

[@kensmith8152]

I remember when his circus would come to my town in nj in the sixties

[@jvcomedy]

Clyde Beatty appears to be fudging on his age. He says he was 16 in 1922, but everything I find says he would have been 19. He would die of cancer less than 3 years after this show was broadcast.

[@vickic1200]

Love this show!

[@tommurphy4094]

Good hearing the audience groan around 7:15 as once again, Bennett Cerf miraculously gets on the right track with his first question, with absolutely no link to it from any of the previous questions asked by the others😅.

[@MrJoeybabe25]

The panel always seems so flummoxed when someone says (like Clyde Beatty) that they are in show business but not primarily tv or pictures. But they were swift on this one.

[@BeIIeDoc24]

love love love! The most affectionate we've seen M&A :) Awww they miss each other. Also, if you haven't see The Thrill Of It All (the movie she was filming in CA), Arlene has the best opening sequence!

[@WhatsMyLine]

The imdb lists her as appearing in a TV version of "Harvey" in 1972 WITH JIMMY STEWART. I would so love to see that. www.imdb.com/title/tt0068680/reference

[@WhatsMyLine]

What's My Line? Good grief, is there no end to the wonders of KZbin?!? Harvey (1972) Part 1/2

[@alskndlaskndal]

What's My Line? Thanks for digging that up! I'm a fan of the original movie, so to see Jimmy Stewart reprising his role along with Arlene will be a treat.

[@BeIIeDoc24]

Reluctant Dragon What's My Line? Not only that, but Martin is in it as well :)

[@WhatsMyLine]

Reluctant Dragon I neglected to notice that *Martin Gable is also in this*, not to mention Helen Hayes, Madeline Kahn, Richard Mulligan, and another one of the actors from the original film, Jessie White. I'm about to watch it myself just now. I'm sure it won't supplant the 1950 film (which is one of my all time favorites), but the cast is mind blowing.

[@ironduke2000]

That's one hell of a cool suit on P.T. Winter!

[@rtflone]

I felt a wee bit foolish for not realizing PT Winter was Paul Winter of Paul Winter Consort fame. Doh!

[@loissimmons6558]

"Altoona" was a name that George Burns would use many times to get a laugh, just by saying it with the right timing. For example, some fetching and breathy-voiced young starlet would ask George naively, "Where's Vaudeville?" George would reply, "Just this side of Altoona."

[@annamaj2943]

Un grande attore

[@jmccracken1963]

Last contestant first: The group which Paul Winter was fronting then was The Paul Winter Sextet, which he had formed while a student at Northwestern University in Evanston, IL. (I wonder if he studied saxophone with Fred Hemke or Burl Lane while a student at NU?) The sextet had been signed by Columbia Records the previous year, after winning the 1961 Intercollegiate Jazz Festival. "Lord Pengo," by S.N. Behrman (suggested by Behrman's "The Days of Duveen"), had opened at the Royale Theatre the previous Monday, 19 November 1962, and closed on Saturday, 20 April 1963, after a run of only 175 performances. The production was staged by Vincent J. Donehue, with sets designed by Oliver Smith, costumes designed by Lucinda Ballard, and lighting designed by Jean Rosenthal. In the cast were Charles Boyer, Brian Bedford (only 27 years old then), Agnes Moorehead, Henry Daniell, Reynolds Evans, Cliff Hall, Laurie Main, Lee Richardson, Edmon Ryan, Betty Sinclair, and Ruth White. (Constance Carpenter later replaced Agnes Moorehead as Miss Swanson.) During 1962, Charles Boyer had also starred in two films ("The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse" and "Julia, du bist zauberhaft" (aka "Adorable Julia")) and in two teleplays on "The Dick Powell Theatre" ("The Prison" and "Days of Glory") - speaking of another recent Mystery Guest..... This is the third of Charles Boyer's four appearances as Mystery Guest on WML? (he never appeared as a guest panelist). His fourth and final appearance would be on Sunday, 17 November 1963. Because of a prominent murder in Dallas, WML? would be pre-empted the following Sunday.......

[@erichanson426]

The panel really looked stunned when Daily revealed the line of the 2nd contestant.

[@jackkomisar458]

They did look stunned. And they shouldn't have been. At this point in the show's history, they had already seen at least five private detectives, including two women.

[@keithhyttinen8275]

I crack up at the wolf whistles.

[@crabbyoldman8209]

I'm a regular guy, red-blooded male, etc, and I hate them. Always have. Juvenile nonsense, especially annoying and disgraceful from grown men.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

*_CLYDE BEATTY, LION AND TIGER TRAINER_* *_PRIVATE DETECTIVE_* *_LEADER OF JAZZ GROUP (JUST PLAYED AT THE WHITE HOUSE)_*

[@robertmelson2130]

8:03 Bennett mispronounces Clyde Beatty's name. When I saw the name of the first guest I was so predicting that that would be the case!

[@Walterwhiterocks]

He mispronounced so many cities and towns, among other things, throughout the years on this program.

[@victorvelazquez6547]

Mr. Cerf spoke with that Long Island , upper social class accent that is considered to be very distinguished and noteworthy.

[@leannsherman6723]

Wow- Martin Gabel did great in that last one! John Charles Daly should have flipped the cards. He wasn’t consistent in that way. Sometimes he flipped them, and sometimes he didn’t.

[@daler.steffy1047]

It would have been interesting to hear J.T. Winter's story about his musical talents; instead, we hear Mr. Daily, once again, speaking for his guests and yapping away to the panel about what he knows about them. And this was a time when I would have enjoyed hearing a couple of more things from Mr. Winter himself in the short time that was allotted for his visit. Unfortunately, Mr Winter was not able to say no more than about 10 words. Does anyone know if Mr. Winter is still with us, and if so, what has evolved out of his musical interests? ~drs (08/13/24)

[@daler.steffy1047]

Whoops, I need to make a correction here...due to eyesight issues here, I guess! ~ And I can answer my question (noted "above"). It's P. T. (Paul) Winters, and I gargled him on the internot. He is still alive, and he's 84 years old and doing great in the music world. What an amazing, talented individual!

[@allanshulstad1783]

Go to Hawaii and see Bennett Cerf

[@joycejean-baptiste4355]

A salad dressing can be a hair tonic. Mr. Daly didn't know that. Lol!

[@GDSaved]

Love ya toooo much xoxoxo

[@Vitte4]

16:56 A camera is an electrical device?!

[@galileocan]

I think it's very sweet when Bennett blows Arlene kisses, as he's does often in several episodes upon receiving very complimentary introductions given by Arlene. I do notice however, that no one ever blew Dorothy a kiss.

[@lopa2828]

Yes but in several episodes she got kissed mostly by Tony Randoll, Martin Gable and once by Bennett himself. I mean not blow kiss, but literal kiss on cheeks.

[@jasonayres]

Mrs. Fultz had very "piercing" eyes. She looked like she was inquisitive for much of the time she was seated. A private detective - she looked it (-excuse the pun).

[@allanshulstad1783]

The female private detective was very cute and ... hot

[@daler.steffy1047]

Sometimes Dorothy killgallon can be somewhat annoying to watch, or to "engage with"--as a viewer, when she feels that she's "Right" but has been told "No" (in so many words from Mr. Daley), and then that causes her to get her knots in a short. Butt, she adds a wonderful, colorful piece to this entertainment tapestry of interesting people ebbing and flowing on the show's stage. And it is her varying attitudes that do contribute to some of the luster, to some of the repartee (Ohhh...,I get to say "repartee" here) that provides this show with its wonderful entertainment value. (And now I'm just thinking that perhaps Dorothy was never told "No!" as a child? Hum... We need to analyze this now. No we don't. We just need to enjoy the show.) (08/12/24)

[@sdkelmaruecan2907]

Clyde Beatty... and Warren Beatty would play Clyde Barrow... makes you think...

[@QuadMochaMatti]

I'm wondering who's going to play Wiehl Barrow.

[@sdkelmaruecan2907]

Lol, I was about to post the same comment and realized I did it 3 years ago...

[@adamcoates2890]

For real John please be quiet for a change. The panel guessed the identity of this famous band leader immediately, providing all of this extra airtime to talk to him, and that was a great opportunity to let THE GUEST talk. It's this guy's chance to be on camera for 5 minutes and for the audience/his fans, to hear him talk! But poor John just can't keep his mouth shut. It's really annoying because he takes this moment as his own, to just hear himself talk! And the majority of the time his jokes fall flat because no one laughs, and he speaks over, and for, the guests instead of letting the guests speak for themselves! You can read the frustration on their faces sometimes. Thankfully there are legendary guests like Bette Davis and Sammy Davis Jr., for example, who will just talk right over John. For most celebrity guests, John crams in as many words as possible while shaking the celebrities hands at the end, so they have no ability to speak. Some of the legends will however turn the tables and speak over John the whole time. They watch the timer and get up when they want to and exit the stage. They know the people tune in to see them! It's funny because you can tell John just sits there like a tornado just came through, as if to say, what just happend? If this show was not in black and white, I bet John's face was bright red in some of these instances. The celebrity guests are always more interesting to hear speak, than John droning on and name dropping!! Haha haha

[@kentetalman9008]

Dorothy has worn that same dress about a dozen times already.

[@jools01]

22:55 cute

[@MrJoeybabe25]

P.T. Winter looks really young, but he seems to be balding!

[@savethetpc6406]

Ry Cade Thanks for that link. It's nice to see that he has had an ongoing successful career in the music business since then. I still think John should have flipped all the cards for him, though. Martin was amazing at deducing his "line" from the way he dressed -- but perhaps there was also something about his name that rang a bell, even if subconsciously.

[@Merrida100]

I dunno, man. Dude is kinda twitchy for a man who works around giant cats. All that face and nose and eyebrow touching. Too much. Preening? Can't be nerves, eh?

[@rogersmith4834]

Merrida: I worked for Mr. Beatty in 1964. You've misread the man's persona. He was gifted with an abundance of energy, which projected his performances into the lasting imaginations of his audience, and he was the only circus performer to become an international household name for 40 years.

[@ironduke2000]

I find him to be very charismatic here.

[@galileocan]

Oh dear God Dorothy....as I told you and posted a few episodes ago,....wearing the Irish flag as a dress, has never been a fashion statement. Not even in 1962.

[@yeahnoonecaresifyouarefirst]

Martin! My heart! 🥹❤

[@markxxx21]

I like this show a lot but the constantly playing up to Kennedy is getting sickening.

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Markxxx - I don't think they play up to Kennedy. He was murdered for God's sake. Any reference to JFK is precious to me. Considering what is in the White House now I can only hope and pray that we as a country can get back to a semblance of normalcy. Pray that November comes soon.

[@postscript67]

@@shirleyrombough8173 How's that working out?

[@Marcel_Audubon]

​@@postscript67 wonderfully, thanks for asking- very much looking forward to Trump's perp walk and inevitable convictions (plural)

[@sw5114]

@@Marcel_Audubon Let’s hope so very soon. Unfortunately thinking the country will get back to some kind of normal is dubious. The water has been poisoned by that person.

[@Marcel_Audubon]

@@sw5114 it's poisoned, but not by him, but by the millions and millions of creepy, creepy Republicans who supported him and continue to support him against their own best interests