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2018 Hot Hatch Megatest | Wheels Australia

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A dozen of the best performance hatches hit the road and tack in this quest to find where the heat really lies in this iconic segment.
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@SOBIsHobbies
@SOBIsHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Whether it's really the fastest one or not, I would still take i30N because it looks more athletic, well put together and that exhaust noise is simply unbeatable. Well done Hyundai!
@arcticwhite8501
@arcticwhite8501 6 жыл бұрын
You could just get a crackle map for almost any other car shown on this test and they'd sound the same, if not better.
@SOBIsHobbies
@SOBIsHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
kmamercy why would I want to buy one, when I can get one already installed from factory. I'm not a fan of an aftermarket tuning. As they are stock as in this video i30N has got more to offer for its price than any other contender can.
@arcticwhite8501
@arcticwhite8501 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Sobirov My point is it’s a dumb gimmick. It’s not special.
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
The fact you call it a crackle map and a gimmick only shows you don't know a thing about it. It's a form of anti lag and it's the only hot hatch on the market that has it from the factory. Any other brand will immideatly void your warranty if you install aftermarket anti lag. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSwmGCBr7Kai5o
@Arcusinoz
@Arcusinoz 6 жыл бұрын
Who the hell cares about the exhaust noise....thats really weird
@hsvcommodore4111
@hsvcommodore4111 6 жыл бұрын
A shame that the megane rs wasn't there…………
@pastorofmuppets8834
@pastorofmuppets8834 6 жыл бұрын
HSV Commodore it's taking its sweet time to get here isn't it! About 6 months too late and already priced a lot more than the I30N
@mcd00080
@mcd00080 6 жыл бұрын
What I wish they used was the Clio 182 in the car park. (every time the lap driver was on camera) It personifies fun driving and is now cheap enough that you can have that and a nice daily to come along with it. Because how many people are actually racing there new 130N or other equivalent?
@cbrooen
@cbrooen 6 жыл бұрын
It was at the workshop needing a new engine
@redzuantahar
@redzuantahar 6 жыл бұрын
If they brought the Megane3 RS, it might have made these new cars not look so new compared to a 2010 car. They just caught up
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 5 жыл бұрын
The new one would be not so competitive.. maybe the trophy version that Will come in 2019 will shine shine again.
@johnwalters6025
@johnwalters6025 6 жыл бұрын
Why are there sedans in a hot hatch comparison
@nielsdebakker3283
@nielsdebakker3283 6 жыл бұрын
Only the subies were sedans. If you refer to the skoda octavia, it looks like a sedan but it is a hatch. (with a very large tailgate).
@Zaruk0
@Zaruk0 5 жыл бұрын
@@nielsdebakker3283 It's called a liftback, a mix between a hatchback and a sedan.
@themarenda
@themarenda 5 жыл бұрын
Probably to show us how what we considered carporn is no faster than todays city cars
@leewillford610
@leewillford610 3 жыл бұрын
Vrs still classed as hatchback
@tr4nc3f0rm3r
@tr4nc3f0rm3r 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the Peugeot 308 didn't beat the Hyundai i30N. The french car has the same power, but a lower weight and a better chassis (tuned by Peugeot Sport). Being an older car than the korean, the 308 has beaten the i30N in several tracks as you can check on other comparative videos over youtube. Also doesn't make much sense that the Honda Civic Type R, which can beat all of the models here on any track at any time and has set the fastest times for any FWD in many popular circuits around the world, loses this battle. Then again, I miss the Seat Leon Cupra, which is much faster than its brothers the Golf Type R and the horrendous Skoda but you probably don't have Seat over there in Australia so all I can do is feel sorry about it. Long story short... this looks "a bit" sponsored by Hyundai.
@sweatyboab
@sweatyboab 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. But it looks "sponsored".
@staggabob
@staggabob 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Josef Blough Ph.D. Who would show up to those events in a Ford, Honda, Renault or VW Golf? That's not the audience they're trying to reach with these cars. I applaud them for recognising how they're regarded currently and bringing 2 very good and surprising cars to the market in this I30N and the Kia Stinger. For the audience you're talking about they have the Genesis brand (in the US) and that has a tougher job against the likes of BMW and Mercedes.
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Josef Hyundai and Kia make a name because they are offering better value for money than any EU brand. Can't speak for the Stinger, but the N is just as good as any random hot hatch from Spain, France or Germany...if not better. They have put a huge amount of time and money in developping it and the result is a great product at the same price of a Golf GTI. And who would pull up at a World Premier in Holywood in a Hyundai or KIA? I've seen more Priuses pull up there than any other brand lately. At the end of this year Hyundai will launch their fuel cell car (world first production car btw. If that isn't innovating I don't know what is in your eyes) - I recon you will see those Hollywood eco warriors dance around that car as well. You really are nothing more than a conservative blind man spreading 1999 talk in 2018.
@Bdavk
@Bdavk 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, VW must be low on marketing dollars this year
@user-dibribhsvj36d
@user-dibribhsvj36d 6 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Hyundai. Also they picked where Hyundai is fastest. Why not race in Nurbugring where it was made for? Oh wait Type R is fastest in Nurbugring.
@jimmyjimmy951
@jimmyjimmy951 6 жыл бұрын
Like it or not, it’s about your personal preference in the end. If you are led by the marketing hype on any new car you are in the majority. The marketing is engineered to draw you in. If you take the emotion out of it you would buy on value, practicality and reliability alone. Another way of looking at it for me is, faster and ugly or slower with dream like looks? Your call, your money...
@vinceleone5794
@vinceleone5794 4 жыл бұрын
At the moment, all considered, and at a first attempt mind you, the i30n for the money in this class is the best hot hatch on the market. The exhaust note it has is the cherry on the cake. Mr Biermann hats off to you sir !
@pohodacik0074
@pohodacik0074 6 жыл бұрын
no other test fined where is i30n faster than civic type r..
@cyclonicleo
@cyclonicleo 6 жыл бұрын
So many salty comments about Hyundai winning this mega-test. Thing is, not a single car here is a dud so it really comes down to personal preference. Meanwhile, with the amount of money Hyundai spent on creating their N division, bringing over Albert Biermann and others, you'd hope their first effort would be good.
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 6 жыл бұрын
cyclonicleo it's not about personal preference. It's the fact that this is a paid sponsored video from hyundai!
@user-zy8ms4gi6n
@user-zy8ms4gi6n 6 жыл бұрын
tommieboi707 stupid moron
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 6 жыл бұрын
박범녕 ok so now you revert to name calling? And you gave yourself a thumbs up? Keep smoking that good sht
@ferdelance7474
@ferdelance7474 6 жыл бұрын
tommieboi707 I mean you revert to claiming lies on a vid..not much different
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 6 жыл бұрын
Irvin Gomez keep drinking that koolaid then. Ignorance must be bliss for you.
@TheVai420
@TheVai420 6 жыл бұрын
Where is focus RS? U got WRX & WRX STI, u got GTI & R? Why dont u get ST & RS too?
@HenryDarr
@HenryDarr 6 жыл бұрын
Where's the RS ???
@kymsomerville9024
@kymsomerville9024 6 жыл бұрын
Renault megane 275 not included. Might have shown some of the other s up.
@alextegg3838
@alextegg3838 6 жыл бұрын
Kym Somerville There’s no Megane RS available in Australia at the moment. I think the new one is due late this year.
@RiccardoTheBeAst
@RiccardoTheBeAst 6 жыл бұрын
LOL.... a lot of people cannot admit that the i30 N is a superb car superior (at least on this track) to other cars, salty guys.... salty guys....
@Tannerzillo
@Tannerzillo 6 жыл бұрын
You should post the times in a table to compare, at least in the description.
@ziggyfreud5357
@ziggyfreud5357 4 жыл бұрын
Some debate as to whether this is a Hyundai advertisement or not. Regardless. The Hyundai ///N is a top little performer.
@Itchyanuspruductions
@Itchyanuspruductions 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they don't have the Focus RS there...……..It would beat all of them hands down. I wonder how much Hyundai paid for this advertisement. I will never get that 16 minutes back...…. :(
@lesterguido
@lesterguido 6 жыл бұрын
what happened to the Focus RS?
@sassythesasquatch8006
@sassythesasquatch8006 4 жыл бұрын
ikr they get a golf R in there buttttt leave the RS?
@meean8799
@meean8799 6 жыл бұрын
Where’s the Nurburgring track times for the Hyundai?
@popsandbangs8858
@popsandbangs8858 6 жыл бұрын
They don't car because of the developing new engines and new N cars
@drkshark
@drkshark 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the focus RS?
@MrElnuno
@MrElnuno 6 жыл бұрын
No RS3, no AMG45, a BMW 125 instead of the 140M, a Focus ST and not the RS? Let's say this was a Warm Hatch Test at best guys!
@marcusbrady5011
@marcusbrady5011 6 жыл бұрын
Not exactly fair to compare a rs3 or a45 with a Hyundai i30
@matthewp9015
@matthewp9015 6 жыл бұрын
The RS3, A45 and RS are all ‘hyper hatches’ and priced well above the hot hatches tested here.
@MrElnuno
@MrElnuno 6 жыл бұрын
Oh really, didn't realise there was an hyper-hatch category :-P
@matthewp9015
@matthewp9015 6 жыл бұрын
Well cars like the A45 created one.. when you bring out a hatch with AWD and 100+ more BHP than your usual FWD hatch breed, you can’t compare them directly, so you need to put them in a new category. Motoring journos refer to them as such all the time.
@MrElnuno
@MrElnuno 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point, therefore I would consider most of the cars in this test 'warm' as opposed to 'hot' hatches.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I was thinking about the Hyundai before... now I'm really thinking about it.
@gixxerboy555
@gixxerboy555 4 жыл бұрын
don't think,just buy,like me.. :)
@stemdan6270
@stemdan6270 6 жыл бұрын
Finally, almost a review of the 125i against other hot hatches. Usually gets overlooked despite having the best feature of any of them... RWD
@supergoku1986
@supergoku1986 3 жыл бұрын
Bmw is a piece of s...
@TheTranfan
@TheTranfan 9 ай бұрын
​@@supergoku1986so are you
@xsduprwd3937
@xsduprwd3937 6 жыл бұрын
Opposed to arguing with you're perfectly reasonable and explained outcome on the winner, my memory is not attentive enough to remember and compare the lap times of all the cars. A simple screen at the end of the video with the all the cars lap times together for comparison seems to me a obvious finale.
@zafert85
@zafert85 6 жыл бұрын
wtf? why not the 140i? or even the 130?
@revolver5394
@revolver5394 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video !! My fav is the I30 N
@KongMonster69
@KongMonster69 6 жыл бұрын
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when talking about the Golf R, they said "And its the grid edition, which is equipped with even more goodies." However, isn't the grid edition the cheaper version, with LESS "goodies"???
@michaelprice3912
@michaelprice3912 6 жыл бұрын
Where was ford RS???
@altraigovender5900
@altraigovender5900 6 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge the civic type R , focus RS an ST are the untouchables when it comes to cornering an handling on the track This is not a fair test you should have used the focus RS which is 261kw an that should be the winning car at this test
@jamesgallagher2434
@jamesgallagher2434 5 жыл бұрын
Altrai Govender the i30 N is as good as they say it is in terms of handling - it’s not joke. Some have claimed it handles better than a type r.
@ZaDude1970
@ZaDude1970 6 жыл бұрын
Two competent hot hatches are missing from this lineup, the Megare RS & the Cupra 300!
@gibboau85
@gibboau85 5 жыл бұрын
Seat isn’t in Oz anymore.
@techpappee
@techpappee 6 жыл бұрын
And the Hyundai hate begins in 1, 2, 3... Uninformed fan boys.
@jamesgallagher2434
@jamesgallagher2434 5 жыл бұрын
Tech Pappee yeap - as soon as someone puts down the i30 N because it’s a “Hyundai” they betray their lack of knowledge.
@adincajic179
@adincajic179 4 жыл бұрын
Coz peugeot is faster and 200 kg lighter than hyundai.have two options for that 1) driver have n idea to driver or 2) they hate peugeot .
@MrFister84
@MrFister84 4 жыл бұрын
@@adincajic179 Why would you buy a Peugeot? Do you like breakdowns and waiting 6 weeks for spare parts??
@mikefletcher4307
@mikefletcher4307 6 жыл бұрын
So this is the first mass comparison video where the i30n is quickest?? Doesn't seem right. Has the same bhp as the 308 GTi, but weighs 250kg more... In other head to head videos the 308 GTi itself was much quicker, and I can't see how anything beat the type r.... Think this is paid for
@popsandbangs8858
@popsandbangs8858 6 жыл бұрын
Too many videos i30 N beat the 308 gti
@dgbservices6049
@dgbservices6049 6 жыл бұрын
pops and bangs Well here’s 5 where it doesn’t lol... kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnXVl4CBl8lso8U kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LHfpyggNJ6e5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX64nYOIq9CXr9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpDbYpaHnM1nebs kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmWoaqyIasmmgaM
@popsandbangs8858
@popsandbangs8858 6 жыл бұрын
@@dgbservices6049 the first one is too old, secend and third, they hate hyundai specialy auto express
@popsandbangs8858
@popsandbangs8858 6 жыл бұрын
I30N better than any gti deal with it
@dgbservices6049
@dgbservices6049 6 жыл бұрын
pops and bangs too old? They were exactly the same cars then as they are now! 😂You’re just making weak excuses now. The Hyundai is a great first effort but it’s been proven in many tests now to not quite have the dynamic ability of the 308 gti (mainly thanks to it’s weight problem) although it does sound better..
@gabaquino
@gabaquino 6 жыл бұрын
No Fiesta ST?
@danepaulsen367
@danepaulsen367 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao we've all been punk'd🤣🤣🤣 I'm waiting for the i30N to set a new FF lap record around the Nurburgring
@pterribilis80
@pterribilis80 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is really pushing Hyundai. Wonder why???
@saschashepard9766
@saschashepard9766 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a Laptime of i30n on Nurnburgring? Don't even see it beating the Clio with 8.23 or Golf GTI Performance with 8.29... don't even mention the Civic.
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
You need to look a bit further. The i30 N TCR currently has the lap record on the ring for TCR cars. Since that car uses the same engine and chassis as the regular i30 N. The i30N will run circles around that Clio and Golf on the Ring. It's only slower than the Type R because it has a deficit in hp. Hyundai also entered 2 standard i30 N's in the 24h race: The #92 car was shared by Vincent Radermecker from Belgium, Stuart Leonard from the UK, automotive journalist Christian Gebhardt from Germany, and Hyundai R&D engineer Jaekyun Kim. In relatively incident-free race, it completed 135 laps, finished 4th in Class, and 50th overall. As for the #95 entry, Pieter Schothorst from the Netherlands, automotive journalist Jens Dralle, and Hyundai R&D engineers Youngsun Jee and Jonghyuk Kwon did the driving duties. They crossed the line a further 25 laps behind, 9th in Class, and 95th out of 109 finishers. No other adjustments were made than what was strictly necessary to meat FIA regulations: role cage, fire extinguisher, single seat.
@MrRudy580
@MrRudy580 6 жыл бұрын
@@Iron883Man tcr like in an actual racecar? You are comparing a racecar with a hothatch. Makes absolute sense. Then compare the tcr versions of Peugeot, vw, Opel....
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
Rudy Oeyen WTCC cars use that same unmodified chassis and same engine. How is laprecord for WTCC cars not comparing against other WTCC cars? When you level the playing field in terms of power that N chassis is faster around a the ring than the others. So why would it be slower around the ring against cars with a deficit in power like the ones he mentions? It’s perfectly capable of doing sub 8 minutes in the right conditions and driven by a pro driver. I'm aiming it somewhere between 8 minutes and the Megane III RS Trophy time from 2014: 7m54s
@MrRudy580
@MrRudy580 6 жыл бұрын
@@Iron883Man on 308 GTI has 270hp. The tcr has 355. Not really the same engine
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
They used the same engine in a different state of tune. Notice how I said 'unmodified chassis' and 'same engine'. You can check WTCC regulations. It's all in there.
@themarenda
@themarenda 5 жыл бұрын
It's small track with ups and downs so i guess it's a better indicator how they perform on the road, it awarded agile cars with shorter wheelbase rather than horsepower, even clio hanged with the big fellows, type r although came second didn't shine because its more focused on stability than low speed agility, i30 and 308 are both very good and i think rigity and better diff made the difference
@FalconXE302
@FalconXE302 6 жыл бұрын
Why was this called a Htot Hatch comparison... when there are so many Sedan's...?
@casmatori
@casmatori 6 жыл бұрын
1 sedan
@drivinginthedcbaarea
@drivinginthedcbaarea 6 жыл бұрын
Babicka Fantastica two, thank you very much🙄
@Veketi_
@Veketi_ 6 жыл бұрын
@@drivinginthedcbaarea One sedan
@drivinginthedcbaarea
@drivinginthedcbaarea 6 жыл бұрын
Veketi Subaru WRX and Skoda Octavia. That makes two.
@paavo8211
@paavo8211 5 жыл бұрын
@@drivinginthedcbaarea Two WRXes and the Octavia is liftback(hatchback with sedan style rear). So there is 2 sedans
@ChromeFusion
@ChromeFusion 6 жыл бұрын
Why would u have a mini JCW with an auto?
@elliothall9207
@elliothall9207 3 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t 😂
@warriormonx
@warriormonx 6 жыл бұрын
No Focus RS?
@shadowgaming6660
@shadowgaming6660 6 жыл бұрын
It broke down on the way there.
@TheDealer6373
@TheDealer6373 6 жыл бұрын
@@shadowgaming6660 So get another one an do the test. You act like stuff is to complicated for you to comprehend. You really think the test results for the rs are disqualified because everyone made will break down.
@shadowgaming6660
@shadowgaming6660 6 жыл бұрын
r/woooosh
@biffon69
@biffon69 5 жыл бұрын
Too expensive
@buckleyjteams
@buckleyjteams 6 жыл бұрын
Would of been good to see how the new fiesta st with the diff did against the bigger boys
@its_Tazz
@its_Tazz 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@collinkegler4528
@collinkegler4528 3 жыл бұрын
Why you took a bmw 125i and not he bigger own like 135i or 140i?
@AlanBeardEfviUK
@AlanBeardEfviUK 6 жыл бұрын
I can only comment upon the Honda and the Hyundai,having owned both over the last 9 months. I owned the Type R from last December until May this year and was hugely impressed with its grunt and capability, however, it just doesn't really involve the driver as much as the vastly cheaper Hyundai or provide a similar grin factor. I am not a Hyundai shill, simply giving my opinion of the two. The Type R is a fantastic car that I was delighted to own, to the i30N disparagers I simply say try one before you comment!
@regisemiel3485
@regisemiel3485 6 жыл бұрын
Why focus ST not RS? Why Clio not Megane? It seem to me that scenario was little too set up.
@londo0
@londo0 6 жыл бұрын
So no Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV and Abarth 500. What is the reason for that?
@ozevox
@ozevox 6 жыл бұрын
because they broke down on the way to the track
@arcticwhite8501
@arcticwhite8501 6 жыл бұрын
phil mcrevis If the Mini didn't I can't see why the Alfa & Fiat couldn't lol
@xin852
@xin852 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda upset this isn’t coming to the US. Great car
@forhesolovedtheworld
@forhesolovedtheworld 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't smell of sponsorship at all hey? :/
@aruncgdesigner
@aruncgdesigner 6 жыл бұрын
No doubt, this is a hyundai ad.. Civic Type R is first in lap time followed by peugeot 308, if hyundai i30n is that fast...pls try to beat nurburgring lap time of Honda Civic Type R
@skotsephrenia1
@skotsephrenia1 6 жыл бұрын
These performace testing are very muchly subjective.. if am gonna do this testing the type R might always win.. However; it all depends on customer's preference.. Lile me.. I like the performance of the honda and i am not satisfied with just the stock power output of it.. it has to be pushed up a little bit more.. can't keep my hands off them.. for daily drive car; i will be happy with skoda or hyundai..
@georgemavrides3434
@georgemavrides3434 5 жыл бұрын
The Type R carries more power in those straights in Nurburgring, this track is tighter and more demanding to the chassis. The next iteration of the i30N, it will surely get a boost beyond 300hp, the chassis can handle it and I don't think the engine has peaked (tuning wise).
@filipdamaco
@filipdamaco 6 жыл бұрын
These reviews seem very sponsored
@nikitis13
@nikitis13 5 жыл бұрын
Hyundai, who would have imagined... I remember buying my first new car, a Hyundai Excel Sprint in 1998 for $12,990 driveway because of the (unheard of at the time) 3 year warranty LOL! Just like the thousands of young new drivers on a budget, fed up with repairing old clapped out bombs. As good as it was at the time & $$$, I couldn't wait to get my next "proper car" , I vowed never to buy a dull "Hyundai" ever again... 23 years later, and having driven, owned and experimented with most makes and models, I might be at full circle. The first Hyundai since then that has caught the attention from all motoring enthusiast. I must take the N Performance for a test drive! Never say never...
@williamk1800
@williamk1800 6 жыл бұрын
Yet another comparison with the Golf R outfitted with the slower manual box, geezus.
@schumifan78
@schumifan78 6 жыл бұрын
William K DSG is for housewives that can't drive manual, also it probably couldn't get through a day at the track without breaking. When your DSG does break, good luck getting a warranty claim out of VW. But then again their pathetic warranty doesn't cover you if you go to a track day anyway.
@williamk1800
@williamk1800 6 жыл бұрын
schumifan78 Nice try. My first was a manual, I owned another manual car after that, and also owned a motorcycle. You’re not special because you choose to row your own gears on a daily driver hatchback. Guess you think M-DCT and PDK are for housewives too? They’re dual clutch autos too, just like the DSG.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 6 жыл бұрын
So it compares more evenly with all the other manual cars there...
@gureno19
@gureno19 6 жыл бұрын
schumifan78 yep...every modern Ferrari,lamborghini and bugatti are for housewives. You've never driven a proper high performance dual clutch fitted car in your life princess...about time you took your AU falcon through the drive thru for the 10th time this week and shutup i reckon.
@bjcliving386
@bjcliving386 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought this too!! But after owning both a manual and a dsg mk7 golf, I've gotta say, that dsg is phenomenal!!
@IzakayaTonton
@IzakayaTonton 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason the Focus RS isn’t in this video ???
@olo606
@olo606 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one lads, it all sounds pretty accurate ha. Mine continues to impress on every drive. Thanks Albert B 👍🏻
@peterscreen2595
@peterscreen2595 6 жыл бұрын
No bmw m140i?
@loxlover1714
@loxlover1714 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was sort of a hodge podge of cars (some of which are not even hatches * confused*). Some on the very low end and some on on the higher end. The m140i would have pulled times near the top for sure, it would have also been the most expensive.
@sparkford04
@sparkford04 6 жыл бұрын
3litre lump with a relatively small hatch restricted family capability imo ,these were basically 2.0 ltr motors, "Hot hatch" originally was a sporty , family car with, reasonable boot space for holiday stuff / flexibility .(Golf Gti mk1)
@stemdan6270
@stemdan6270 6 жыл бұрын
The families are in SUVs now anyway.. who cares about the boot space when you have RWD on offer
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 6 жыл бұрын
too expensive
@stemdan6270
@stemdan6270 6 жыл бұрын
Would have kicked the i30n's butt. Which wouldn't have suited the paid ad's aims...
@wheresmycheese8511
@wheresmycheese8511 4 жыл бұрын
Another hot hatch comparison without the Giulietta veloce 🙄
@TheMikey2244
@TheMikey2244 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure why you had the GTI and the golf R an wrx an the Sti but why did you only bring the st focus an both the rs !?
@TommoC123
@TommoC123 6 жыл бұрын
Affordable hot hatch segment? 50k cars!
@ZeduSann
@ZeduSann 4 жыл бұрын
I30n is 30000$ , is fucking nuts the price
@bonamin
@bonamin 6 жыл бұрын
As proven on almost every other comparison anywhere in the universe, in track conditions, and road performance the Civic Type-R absolutely TRUMPS anything in its path. The i30N is a very good car for the money you pay, but only comes close to cars like the Civic R, Megane RS etc on REALLY, REALLY tight circuits where you can't actually use the full potential of bigger cars. It's like top gears comparison of a Ferrari and a Fiat Panda in a kart track. The panda is almost as quick. lol
@johnwilhelm
@johnwilhelm 6 жыл бұрын
Why do they never use the GTI PP DSG!
@schumifan78
@schumifan78 6 жыл бұрын
John Wilhelm Because these cars are for people who love driving, DSG is for housewives that can't drive manual. Also, the VW DSG would be lucky to get through a track day without breaking.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the other cars here were manual so its a more direct comparison.
@johnwilhelm
@johnwilhelm 6 жыл бұрын
schumifan78 that just goes to show your lack of knowledge on the topic. VW DSG are extremely robust just ask anyone who has one tuned. Mine is a APR Stage 2 that has been tuned for coming up on 2 years. As far as your opinions are concerned you can have them just make sure it is coming from fact and not your biased opinions. If Paddle shirting technology is so bad then why does F1 use them. Performance that’s why. Again your options are your opinions. I’ve driven a few ST and think they are cheap hence why you don’t see many of them in the road. As far as VW GTI’s go they must be doing something right because everyone continues to try and copy them and fails. I actually like the Type R but it’s not worth the money when for $700 you can tune a GTI that you can get for $23,000 and make it faster than the $35,000 Type R. As far as the Hyundai i30N is concerned again I like it but it needs to stand the test of time. To put it in perspective the i30N Performance is Hyundai’s top N car which puts out 278hp/260tq and it runs a claimed 0-60 in 6.0 seconds per Hyundai. The stock DSG GTI with 210hp runs the identical 0-60 time. So take the GTI PP DSG with its more hp, Golf R brakes, bigger rear sway bar and LSD. You can see the point I’m making. Best bang for the buck in its class hands down. Brand new I got my 2017 Sport GTI PP DSG with 24 miles on it for $22,470. Now I’m running with APR Stage 2 340hp/390tq all at the wheel for just over a $1,000 put into it and I still haven’t come close to the price of a Type R. VW is doing something right and that’s what I will stick with.
@johnwilhelm
@johnwilhelm 6 жыл бұрын
soundseeker63 your key word being most. If they are going to allow one other car to use it then they should have included all cars that had it as an option.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 6 жыл бұрын
Why should they? To please DSG fanboys? Some of the cars only offer manual and some only offer auto, while some offer both. It wasn't possible for them to all be the same no matter what options were chosen. And yes, we know DSGs are quicker, yet many drivers still find manual more involving and offering better control for track driving so what makes you think the outcome would have been much different with a DSG? In case you didn't notice the GTi and the more expensive more powerful AWD Golf R got beaten by a 1.6 liter FWD Peugeot so clearly they not as marvelous performance cars as you (and a lot of people) like to think. And sure they are tunable but so are all modern turbocharged cars and if you have to spend $$$$ on a Golf just to make it a match for rivals that are stock that just proves how lousy they are stock rather than how great they are when tuned.
@Omar-kw5ui
@Omar-kw5ui 6 жыл бұрын
might aswell have thrown in the subaru BRZ / Toyota gt86 since you added some sedans with the excuse that they were in price range.. Also why would you add the BMW 125i and not the 135 or 140i?
@shinrips
@shinrips 6 жыл бұрын
What does short shift mean? I drive stick all the time and I've never heard this before.
@mauricehunte7082
@mauricehunte7082 2 жыл бұрын
What happen to holden astra vxr (shame)!!
@oddities-whatnot
@oddities-whatnot 6 жыл бұрын
Although not the fastest car around, its a bit heavy and a bit long in the tooth, id still have the WRX STI over any of this lot for the whole brutal experience. And it would last longer. This lot are all lightweight fashion cars that wont last five minutes.
@James-sm6di
@James-sm6di 6 жыл бұрын
Ernie Flannel thats a lie 😂😂
@MrFister84
@MrFister84 4 жыл бұрын
The French ones yes.
@mindcrafte
@mindcrafte 6 жыл бұрын
Was this an advert. The best looking? Was the quickest though. No focus RS or Megs RS. The former fortunately for comparo not available.
@jamesgallagher2434
@jamesgallagher2434 5 жыл бұрын
Simon L I have one and it looks awesome in the flesh. But personal preference is the basis here so it’ll vary from person to person as to which is the best looking car.
@capetowncoffee
@capetowncoffee 6 жыл бұрын
No point without the megane RS.
@JFomo
@JFomo 6 жыл бұрын
No Renault Megane? Nice to see the Clio Rs there but that looks like an older model going by its fog lights.
@leighturner9452
@leighturner9452 3 жыл бұрын
Why no megane rs🤷‍♂️
@HeliconPath
@HeliconPath 6 жыл бұрын
Why not list the times at the end...?
@ajames718
@ajames718 6 жыл бұрын
The Civic Type R has always been slugged for not being as good coming out of tight slow corners compared to other hot hatches. No surprise here with its lap time.
@fkim8449
@fkim8449 6 жыл бұрын
A James strange that other reviews say it is faster in corners and here it's slower.... weird 🤔🤔😏😏
@ajames718
@ajames718 6 жыл бұрын
Kim Faes F*Kim The Civic would be faster most of the time but the track here didn't do it any favours.
@fkim8449
@fkim8449 6 жыл бұрын
A James could be any track is different 😉
@XQoozMii
@XQoozMii 6 жыл бұрын
43 people can't handle the kimchi 😂
@shinrips
@shinrips 6 жыл бұрын
Jumped out of seat laughing-good one!!!
@mrxnoname93
@mrxnoname93 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite hot hatch is the rs3. Sadly it's propably the most expensive one as well.
@grsly854
@grsly854 6 жыл бұрын
why no focus rs?
@hamishbrown1070
@hamishbrown1070 6 жыл бұрын
They where changing the head gasket :-)
@aronmurphy9614
@aronmurphy9614 5 жыл бұрын
So you used the 125i and not the m140i stupid comparison
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the WRX there it's not a hot HATCH.
@zakariachtouki6642
@zakariachtouki6642 6 жыл бұрын
No seat leon?!?
@hondafan1506
@hondafan1506 6 жыл бұрын
They put the wrong Honda out, different story if the FK2 was out there
@Nacho97drd
@Nacho97drd 6 жыл бұрын
Where is the seat leon cupra?? Is faster than the gti...
@paulsheather7657
@paulsheather7657 5 жыл бұрын
why did they test the clio and not the Megane?
@peterwho9380
@peterwho9380 6 жыл бұрын
Motortrend will do a similar comparison and the results will be very different! Some of these times are too close to call and driver error will always make a good car look bad...
@frankluo230
@frankluo230 6 жыл бұрын
All well and good but lack of real excitement. A couple of years ago, that would include the likes of Focus RS Megane Trophy R, then newish A45, or a JDM type R. Nowadays we have Hyundai i30N trying so hard to be a duplicate of Golf GTI, which itself has become dull and bland. When will we have another Clio v6 or megane r26? A45 Black series?
@ReezyChiloane
@ReezyChiloane 6 жыл бұрын
Frank Luo you clearly don't know hot hatches.
@Iron883Man
@Iron883Man 6 жыл бұрын
Frank Luo Welcome to the 2018 emission norms. Besides, as much as the Clio V6 specs were exciting, how many times have you seen one on the road? They only sell those cars to extremely brand loyal collector’s anyway. It’s not like they ever get driven. They sit in a garage for 5 years then shift owner for 25% increased value. Those cars are very exciting on a sheet of paper or on PlayStation, but in the real world they are nothing more than stock bonds being traded. Can it get more boring than that?
@marcovanderbank7361
@marcovanderbank7361 6 жыл бұрын
Where i live if you convert my currency to aus dollar the m140i is 5k dollars more than the golf r and the wrx sti is 2k dollars more than the m140i, if you got the cash it seems like a pretty obvious choice until the focus rs came which costs like 500 dollars less than the m140i
@saucysimpson259
@saucysimpson259 6 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you use an M140i? theyre cheaper thna a mini JCW
@mjrpayne19
@mjrpayne19 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the comments on this video give no creedence to the overall picture other than mentioning power/weight. How about gearing/final drive? Track? Tire size/compound if not normalized? Weight balance? Power curve/tuning? Displacement advantage? Fuel rating requirement? Driving controls and their intuitiveness? Does the car inspire confidence to wring out all it has to offer? There are alot of reasons why one car could be "better" than another. You need to consider the overall package.
@Lucifer.6.6.6.
@Lucifer.6.6.6. 5 жыл бұрын
My first time buying a hot hatch...so i went for something that is sure to piss-off a lot of guys out their ..yes I've ordered a new 7.5 Golf GTI preference.
@Jan-VH
@Jan-VH 6 жыл бұрын
a shame that not all cars were equipped with the manual when possible
@Fn0rD.
@Fn0rD. 5 жыл бұрын
where is the leon cupra?
@markojagar6658
@markojagar6658 5 жыл бұрын
Buut i think it must be sponsored the hyundai not 1 bad review !?? Is it realy theat good ?
@jlv02
@jlv02 6 жыл бұрын
kW? Seriously? Who uses that?
@411nightnheaven
@411nightnheaven 6 жыл бұрын
jlv02 most of the world
@djdante
@djdante 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys - You're a professional brand so not sure why certain things are in issue - If you want to increase your channel success, a video like this should be about 25 minutes long, you're looking at a LOT of cars and each one gets such a small amount of air time, I'm sure you got enough footage on teh day to make a longer video, and youtube will rank you based on viewing time. You should constantly have over exposed footage on light coloured cars, and underexposed footage you had to stretch so it's full of noise - Makes it look unprofessional, yes WHEELS is a succssful Australian magazine - But it makes the whole thing look amateurish.
@UFO_Believer_X
@UFO_Believer_X 6 жыл бұрын
Why not a WRX-STI?
@Kazi2812
@Kazi2812 6 жыл бұрын
Missing a couple of good hatches there!
@razergamimg1890
@razergamimg1890 6 жыл бұрын
And Kia Ceed GT? With 210CV*
@webby189402194134
@webby189402194134 6 жыл бұрын
Disappointed you didn't include the fiesta st
@dyanerispe5265
@dyanerispe5265 6 жыл бұрын
So this test could have been a mega test, however it failed as some key players who initiated the Hot Hatch era by the likes of the Opel/Vauxhal OPC/VXR been added, as well as Renault Megan and seeming as you had the Golf R, WRX STi, why wasn't the Ford Focus RS and Mercedes A45 added to the contest. Lets hope someone gets this Hot Hatch test right😒
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 6 жыл бұрын
You lost ALL credibility, wheelsaustralia. You absolutely got paid by Hyundai and you know it. You need to disclose that info. No way is that Hyundai faster than half the cars in your video let alone it beat the type r.
@PawisPogiVlog
@PawisPogiVlog 5 жыл бұрын
Still living in the past?
@Olemrac11
@Olemrac11 6 жыл бұрын
The Renault is so cute. I could see my girlfriend rocking that
@jasonnav9969
@jasonnav9969 6 жыл бұрын
I’m happy for Hyundai, although you are missing so many other cars....
@petertillotson1
@petertillotson1 6 жыл бұрын
No GTC VXR .... tut tut tut.......
@aj03two
@aj03two 5 жыл бұрын
Where's the Brabus Smart car?
@stamhoofdjoost6290
@stamhoofdjoost6290 6 жыл бұрын
I didnt see the Audi A3 and the Mazda 3
@shinrips
@shinrips 6 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to put in a couple of supercars. The twisties might level a playing field a little.
@sdfgsdfg9549
@sdfgsdfg9549 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of the drivers who own these type of cars actually uses the go-fast mode in day to day driving let along take the car on race track. Insurance, tires, petrol and car maintenance are expensive. If you are avg joe with avg salary, mortgage & family you'd be put off turning the beast mode on - and if that is the case you just bought the car for bragging rights.
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