When a Sociopath Cracks Under Pressure

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[@drill4206]

Thank you for posting such great content

[@beccas.7762]

My question: do you notify the PD who took on the cases you cover? Just curious, because I imagine the detectives reading our comments.

[@torchsilke1650]

@@beccas.7762 Cases are already covered by the police, otherwise, the channel wouldn't have access to ANY of this!

[@kevinjames5221]

Great content as always.

[@Esk-be8kd]

She says I left" it " there meaning the body...

[@TheRealSantaGaming]

Five minute safety seminar at work: “I cannot stay awake for this” Hour and a half interrogation footage: “you have my full and undivided attention”

[@Nettamorphosis]

I felt this in my soul. Lol.

[@phorel1co139]

😆😆🤣

[@briannnaaX]

yaaasssssss

[@ccorleans3063]

Yesssss! 😆😂💯

[@mrlouisvashi]

Bruh Truth

[@chukham]

I have a difficult time understanding how a mother could abandon her children to make her boyfriend happy. This is not a mental condition, this is evil.

[@mememe217]

Agree!

[@vl4394]

It's pathetic. She's less than human.

[@michellenuzzello3015]

a mental condition called SELFISHNESS....it is fkn disgusting!...If ANY PERSON in my life disliked my son...(I only have one child)... they would be ejected out of life in 2.2 secs...that poor baby boy....

[@michellenuzzello3015]

@@vl4394 yup...shes a THING...that's what I have been referring to "less then human" lately...THINGS...for lack of many nastier words...

[@vl4394]

@@michellenuzzello3015 I have a lot of words for them. Beasts in human form, cattle, degenerates, hylics, subhuman, braindead, golem, empty vessels, weak, cowardly, self centered, and generally just utterly and outright braindead.

[@pkij140]

It was 2 am, dark, raining and he KNEW they were being abandoned. He was so scared he tried to stop a van with his little fingers. There aren't words to describe how horrible this is.

[@seafoambeachcomb]

😪

[@mizconti]

I cry thinking of this poor babies last moments and his siblings being with their brothers dead body and also being abandoned. I hope they’re in a better home now.

[@ap-ci7co]

When she says' I can't do that to my kid that's my blood child ' that makes me so mad;! My daughter is 6 and when I try to go grocery shopping and leave her with her dad she cries and I always give in because I love her so much I can't stand to see her cry for anything all I picture is james crying begging for his mommy when she wants to dumb him and he knew it !! She wasn't coming back .. precious baby boy I'm so sorry this happened.. I just want to hold him and care for him his mother is a POS ! She doesn't even cry when she tells the story

[@nineteenfortyeight]

@@ap-ci7co also it sounds like it makes perfect sense to her that someone would do that to a child who is not their "blood".

[@ccschrader9763]

I couldn't even imagine leaving a child in a place like that to scare them...I mean WTF....I can't even leave my children in their room at night if they are crying and scared. I mean what kind of person would think to do something like that. Sickening😡🤮💔

[@Scott4man]

If anyone wants to know how a child can be abandoned by their mother feel free to contact my mother. She abandoned my brother and I when our father was in Vietnam. She left us in a locked home as a 6 month old and a 2 1/2 year old and decided to move almost 1000 miles away to Texas so she could be with a new man. We were nothing but baggage that interfered with her own partying and limited her abilities to have that fun. Luckily we were found by a family member that broke into the home, due to hearing us inside and crying. Just because a woman gives birth to someone it does not mean she is a mother.

[@lightskinprivilege]

I also seen everything like men, drugs and partying come before my little adopted sister when my parents were just helping out her mom. I didn’t understand it before I became a mom or after but I’m still truly sorry you had to experience that.

[@geegeeandlulu]

I hope you are ok now ❤

[@bloodtippedrose]

So sorry you and your brother went through that. I hope you're better off without her and have been able to form other meaningful relationships. Some family really sucks.

[@kayb2454]

Glad you and your sibling were rescued. God bless you❤

[@DianaRamirez-nd9ym]

Sending you love ❤

[@stashiatracy]

“Do your children have mattresses?” “No. I’ve been calling around for giveaways or furniture vouchers but no one around here will help with that.” “Do you work?” “No, I’m a stay-at-home mom.” You have ZERO right to not be working when your children don’t even have beds to sleep in. “I sleep in after 8 most days.” Give me a break. Enjoy prison.

[@emilyelizabeth575]

now this btch gets a bed in prison

[@susansaunders249]

Better yet, DON'T

[@stashiatracy]

@@susansaunders249 💯💯💯

[@r.c.l2569]

The problem is she most likely will enjoy prison.

[@crowmedicine3890]

There's absolutely no fucking excuse. You can be poor as dirt and have everything your kids need. I bet SHE had a bed. I'd sleep on the floor before letting my children not have beds. I'd be hungry before letting my children not eat. As most parents would. She's a disgusting human being.

[@TGRAM7]

Did she honestly believe she could “get rid of” three kids, go back home and live her best life? She didn’t think people would question their whereabouts?

[@misteralice2614]

I thought the same thing.

[@JLynnEchelon]

I get that she is obviously not the most intelligent person in the world, but it doesn't take a genius to know thar you can't Hansel and Gretel your kids.

[@douchecraft3113]

I don't believe there's a whole lot of "thinking" going on inside this woman's head

[@LeslieJMarshall]

Casey Anthony and many others. This is far more common than we realize. Usually it's just fobbing the child(Ren) off on family

[@91KP_SilentEchoes]

How could she sleep at night??!! This woman is twisted. Oh! She slept till noon even! Wow

[@ms55938]

She referred to her dead child as "the little boy"! I'm heartbroken. That poor child having a mother like that had no chance for a good life. I thank God my daughter is a loving, attentive mother who would walk through fire for my grandson.

[@mememe217]

I LITERALLY HATE THIS HUMAN

[@laurenmastroviti6543]

Was she actually talking about her son?

[@misssaltynuts2512]

At one point she called him IT when talking about throwing his body off the bridge. This is horrid.

[@lowrider81hd]

She also says “and I woke up THE brother and sister”… serious detachment.

[@grinningintheirface2685]

If you know anything about natural bone structure...nothing about this creature is a mother. Nothing has EVER fallen from between its legs, except the remnants of what used to be a little boy. If they did this to this child...that child never came from this beast.

[@MeDusa68]

She was completely emotionally and morally detached from her kids. Referring to them as "the brother and the sister" and "that little boy". Boyfriends come and go ( this guy wasn't even attractive 🤮), but the love a child has for it's mother is unconditional. I can't fathom why she would choose a man over her kids. She doesn't deserve an ounce of peace for the rest of her miserable life

[@amandaskywalker7331]

I think she's stupid."I can't read big words" and "What's remorse mean?" She's like an 8-year-old girl who unfortunately had kids.

[@joansrusticsoapsjoan2111]

She’s not attractive, either on ALL levels. Like attracts like.

[@allissa9802]

It’s awful how she refers to her own children. The boy, the girl, brother, sister, the kid. My heart goes out to the children. They didn’t deserve that. She could have easily left the man, this did not have to be an option.

[@donnathomas9111]

She could have left them on someone's doorstep or a church. What made her believe he would love her if he wanted her to get rid of her children?😡😡😡😡😡

[@emmat690]

She even called James an “it”… saying “I just left it”💔

[@shameisnotwelcomehere3069]

@It`s okay. Shut up with all of that virtue signaling. I have two children that I'm raising right now as a single mother living in poverty and there is no way in this Godless world that I would abandon my children because of poverty or an annoyed, good-for-nothing boyfriend. American poverty is peanuts compared to the types of poverty we witness in less developed countries. But, even in the most impoverished land of "no opportunities" loving mothers still exist. After all, a mother is a mother, poor or rich. The only thing "truely evil" is all of the virtue signaling, patronizing BS you typed while not realizing that in order to spell truly you have to drop the 'e'. While you're at it, drop the pretense and bull. Quit being so empathetic to everyone's "sad sob story" that you fail to show empathy for actual victims who deserve your care and compassion. Little James and his siblings are the ONLY victims that matter in this story.

[@bee12355]

Hell, she could have gave the children up and put them in foster care.

[@elaineelliott3138]

She chose the man over her own children . That is hard to imagine any mother doing .

[@ashleayoung8434]

“James had bruises, honestly all over.” “He kinda like punches them or slaps them.” “He has never hit me. Ever.” I pray this woman spends the rest of her life in prison. 21 years isn’t enough for that little boys life and the mental damage done to her other two children.

[@jaybee1248]

Can u even imagine how the other two kids felt when she picked them back up and they had to ride back with their dead little brother?? Knowing she purposefully left them and killed him

[@wendyhannan2454]

He never hit me, what about her kids. Some women are so desperate to keep a man they abuse and allow the boyfriend to abuse their kids. What about the boyfriend did he get off, why doesn’t he say where James is, he must know.

[@kathleenk7170]

Cold evil. She can't even pretend she has anything kind or loving about her baby. And she had three! The more she talks the more horrific we realize the suffering of James and his siblings. I pray she rots I. Prison where she gets punched and slapped daily till someone accidently kills her

[@jennifers8843]

It seems like society is more concerned with criminals well being

[@deannaladratdsphne3546]

Oh she will live on death row till shes executed..then to he'll for eternity !!

[@bardgettbrandy]

It's disturbing how she is worried about getting covid but not if her kids are taken care of or alive for that matter. Chilling to think we walk around next to people like this and don't even know it. Smh 🤦

[@charliechurch5004]

RIGHT!!!! WALKING AMONG US!!😨

[@Flame44]

I just mentioned on another video that there are so many unsolved cases 👀 We may have spoke to a murderer at Starbucks today….. so scary!

[@tigerex777]

I'm an INFJ, I know every person with mental illness on my radar

[@texastornado9918]

Obviously because she already knows where her kid is… I’m sure that was a clue to the detective as well.

[@teridoster5840]

Seriously tho, you're so right. Standing in a crowded room and there's prob a few. Scary AF

[@Mr.BusterHighman]

I'm so thankful there are people with the strength to handle these cases with patience and professionalism. I pray they can sleep soundly at night knowing they are heroes who serve justice for these defenseless children and not haunted by the atrocities they have to unravel. What a tremendous responsibility to bear.

[@skierprincessakify]

Well they want to be able to put them away so they have to be able to compartmentalize the crime. I had to do it as a psychiatrist in corrections and interviewing people like her.

[@lindaseiffert2737]

I so agree...wives or husband's of police men really need to have patience and understanding...as there is no way this cannot seep over into their mental health

[@laylajarrah1250]

It’s so disturbing…. It’s worse that horror films …. God help them through

[@MK-nd2iu]

I Always keep Peace Officers, Firemen, Paramedics, in my Prayers💗🙏 ♥️🩶💙 to live this everyday for your job. I can not imagine ❤

[@kskssxoxskskss2189]

"What is remorse?" Most honest thing she has said so far.

[@itsjodiewho]

I just watched another interview with her where she said was hoping they would be safe after she abandoned them and she was hoping the coyotes wouldn't get them. 😳

[@miriam100ful]

psychopaths have no remorse or conscience, explaining to them what is remorse means nothing. We are not all the same. These people should not be allowed to have children.

[@newnamewhodis1]

I can't figure out if she's feigning dumb as hell or just is

[@nickdarr7328]

​@@itsjodiewhothat's a true mother's love right there. I hope the coyotes don't eat my kids. Such care

[@romanaa7070]

The fact that he died trying to run back to her after being abandoned in the cold dark of the night is absolutely heartbreaking. I wish I was there to take those poor kids in and give them love and care they deserve. Special place in hell for this monster.

[@yasselesca]

I'm not religious, but in this moment, i really wished there was a hell for her.

[@katarzynamuszynska5426]

Well that you suppose to do Kids run to their Mother or Father for safety care ,protection

[@Opi0id-z]

@@katarzynamuszynska5426 Yea that's the point?

[@bmttt20]

@@katarzynamuszynska5426 yes and he did it after his “protector” abandoned him.. that’s the point

[@CasperF99]

I stopped the video at 1:29. That whole situation just breaks my fcking heart. Pure evil. That poor baby.

[@Argelius1]

A mother with a missing 5 year-old - ZERO emotion. Not even faking to be upset. She’s quite a catch!

[@russiaprivjet]

there are no prerequisites for being a parent

[@S30Uploads]

Oh I'm sorry I thought you were talking about my fiancé and yes she's quite the catch people like this can be quite useful you know especially if you're trying to kill yourself

[@mememe217]

She saaaaahhhhhhKS

[@Tata83102]

As a mother, she has to be seriously jacked in the head. I couldn’t imagine hurting my son, he’s almost 5 and fell off the couch resulting in him hitting his face on the coffee table knocking a couple teeth out of place and needing stitches on his lip, I literally cried almost all night. Even just hearing his cry when he gets shots makes me cry. There’s nothing in the world that can make me hurt him and seeing videos like this just makes me want to adopt so bad. If I can give atleast one kid a good life I will be happy with myself. I hope the females in prison deal with females like this real good.

[@gaytwinksfortrump]

These a demon possessed souls

[@MissNikkiDawson]

When she says stuff like, "I didn't throw him down on the ground or anything.", you can almost guarantee that is exactly what she did. This piece of human garbage is infuriating to listen to.

[@andrewshill4172]

even her projection is disgusting

[@tinydream]

Detective: “Tell me what kind of kid he is.” Her: “He has ADHD, he struggles real bad in school.” WHY is that your first thought? I’d be telling him all the things I love about my son that makes him stand out and special. Just revolting.

[@chadporter2135]

Exactly I agree. Do you have a ASMR channel of some sorts?

[@tinydream]

@@chadporter2135 hey! It's more of a relaxation channel with visual soundscapes that I animate by editing photos. I love making them and it relaxes me. I've thought a lot about doing an ASMR channel but I haven't started it yet. It's called Shy Sounds but no vids, haven't told anyone about it yet but I'd like to give it a try! I'm shy and quiet so I think it could work. :)

[@mbc65]

Couldn't agree more. I can't understand her lack of affect she's flat and emotionless. I'd be freaking the f*ck out if my son were missing. I lost my son in a crowd for a few minutes once and it was the single most terrifying moments of my life. You feel like you're on fire or shooting sparks, your fear immediately kicks in. She's too calm, too flat.

[@dswagg585x2]

Some people shouldn't ever have been allowed to become parents unfortunately there's just not enough ways to know who those people are untill things like this happen as sad as it is poor baby rest in peace little man your deserved so much better than you got 🙏 😢

[@dswagg585x2]

@mbc65 I lost my son to cancer and I couldn't help but blame myself for that th3 doctors had to assure me constantly I did everything I could. People like this need serious help and they don't get it and it will keep going too more than likely the world is a crazy place

[@dericesanchez183]

I’m from the hood of Chicago and let me tell you… when people find out that a mother allowed her child to be killed or molested by her boyfriend, she has to move immediately because people give street justice. Im not saying it’s right, but it’s what happens. They’re lucky to be arrested by the police before the neighborhood mob gets to em.

[@lfrankow]

Street justice is what used to happen. Society sorted itself out. Easily preventable diseases used to sort out stupid people who thought that they were superhuman. “Civilization” has prevented nature taking its course.

[@roxanneward4838]

It's like poetic justice when you see the police and criminals working together to follow the criminal code. This is law #1!

[@Dat_Scrub]

Yeah dude she goes to prison she’ll find out what the other female prisoners do to child abusers That shit ain’t pretty just like her

[@Jen_Is_Outside]

The way it should be, honestly.

[@bmf-jn2ff]

In my opinion, that's the best kind of justice.

[@jflyiii1682]

One day I thought that my cat had gotten outside and ran away, I was a total wreck, crying, searching, damn near pulling my hair out with worry and overwhelming guilt. I cannot even BEGIN to imagine what it would be like to have a missing child or to kill your child. This woman is not a mother. Pretty much anyone can give birth but that doesn’t make you a mother. This is SICKENING.

[@beccas.7762]

But you found your cat, right?

[@donnawatkins8404]

@@beccas.7762 Becca in her first sentence she said that she thought her cat had gotten outside.

[@mattv3395]

Poor kitty 🐈‍⬛ and poor James 🙏🏻

[@mr_JackSchwarze]

At least with cats you know that they usually come back to you, children don’t

[@saigerose4580]

dude my dog has run away a lot and every time i would get so anxious i would have to just stand there closing my eyes trying not to throw up and shaking uncontrollably ..i couldn’t even help look for him bc i couldn’t even face what was happening i was so scared … i can’t even begun to im again if something happened to my future child.

[@margochanning6868]

Pure evil. That poor little boy. Sadly, his death saved the other 2 children from similar fates.

[@arthuroldale-ki2ev]

When he told her that he was getting a different story from her boy friend , so all is lost , I thought here we go, she going to lie the truth !

[@carolkontur1442]

How much control that Officer had in not jumping over the table and beating the crap out of her,shows what a professional he is!

[@yOGlo]

Lol fr tho 💔

[@OneDarkCutie]

Or lack of integrity/conviction... Honestly, some actions clearly don't need legal intervention-

[@everyporism]

Considering cops are known for that he’s definitely an outlier

[@bellama9043]

I mean there is a reason. It's basicskill to be a police officer .. Self control

[@briancleveland6115]

​@@everyporism it never happens ! But sometimes it should !

[@mmc9828]

It blew my mind when she referred to her child as "the little boy". Too bad her ex didn't follow through on his threat to kill her in her sleep.

[@Pagandawn13]

I don't think she ever used any of the children's names in this!

[@raintree3383]

She also says The brother and sister The disconnect she has wih her children is unreal.....hope she is miserable in Prison

[@mmc9828]

@@raintree3383 And in hell!

[@j.goebbels2134]

There are two people named James. Her BF and her child. She said she would use "the boy" to differentiate. It blows my mind someone could watch this interrogation one not twig that out.

[@Victoria_Marie]

Me too!! I was waiting for the commentator to say something about that! I want Explore With Us to cover this he would have broke it down so beautifully

[@megananderson8635]

OMG. The way she tells what happened like it wasn't even her child . Like he wasn't even a human. Alot of people get more emotional over animals . I've gotten more emotional running over a raccoon and knowing I killed it. I cried for a few minutes straight. This is mind blowing .

[@SamEsss]

I know she even refers to him as “the little boy” like she doesn’t know him! And she can’t remember what his shirt looked like, if he had his glasses on. Ugh.

[@jamieredman8606]

What kind of animal can drive her infant kids, to abandon them in the middle of the night... then run over and kill one.. omfg😭

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

RIP raccoon buddy.

[@goverlord]

I know the feeling, I did the same thing when i hit a squirrel

[@dankus.memeokus4192]

That racoon committed suicide by car not ur fault😂

[@MyMinaBobina]

My daughter got lost in safeway when she was 4. It was about 30 seconds from noticing she wasn't with me, to absolute, lock the doors, send out a search party, panic. The rising sick feeling was horrendous. The panic must have been so clearly in my face. I was shouting for her at the top of my lungs, not caring what anyone else thought. The images of what may happen to her bouncing around my mind, increasing my fear by the second. She was in the next aisle. She'd been 'missing' for about 3 minutes. Juss sayin'

[@PallasAndDove]

Same thing here, but it was Walmart. It was like my soul was ripped from my body. I scared the hell out of her when I found her, I bet

[@richebronsonify]

Happened to me once too. I have 2 older boys and a girl who is quite a bit younger. She wandered off for a few minutes one day and me and both of my sons went into full on panic mode. Had a plan made in seconds but then got safety home from this horrifying trip to the market and made a real game plan. She goes missing again one boy heads for the front doors- the other to the restroom and I’m running around the store looking!!! I can’t even IMAGINE wanting to be with a man who said go dump the kids…in the wilderness.. in February. But this one appears to be exceptionally lazy. Not sure how she can be a “SAHM” when she doesn’t have any kids tho. 🙄🤮

[@inthelandofmorethansmall7582]

It's obvious she's guilty of SOMETHING from the get go. No context needed... Just, you have a Mother. Her baby boy is 6(?) years old. And she's calmly sitting at the table. And patiently answering questions.... That is ALL I need to know. If nothing was fishy, she would've been panicking, screaming, "why are you wasting time with these questions - GO FIND MY BABY!!!" Some people are really just that dumb though... they actually actually think they can "get rid of" another person, even a child! And no one is going to notice!

[@yourdad1367]

She didn’t even shed a single tear throughout the entire interrogation. How can you live with yourself, let alone keep your composure after killing your own child? Unbelievable. I feel so bad for that child. This woman is cold, emotionless.

[@annaprice7276]

Can I admit that I Luv this show... these people who do horrible things, commit unthinkable crimes and think they are going to outsmart & lie to the Police and try to look and sound innocent. Talk like it's just a day at the Beach. NO B you about to get arrested!!!

[@Fancy_Stamper]

Praying for the death penalty.

[@Arslaton80]

I agree. I'd be more likely to get rid of the sack of crap that suggested I get rid of my babies. And I wouldn't be nice about it.

[@BriMonies]

Huge indicator that she was guilty was lack of emotion. If my child was missing I guarantee the interviewer wouldn’t be able to understand a thing I say cause I would be scream crying uncontrollably. Some people really have no business having children. None of them deserved to be born to this utter waste of a human. I hope her two surviving kids are ok.

[@slimdavis1079]

She’s not even a friggin mother… who does that? 😡

[@angelam886]

That poor child. The love and the innocence he still held for his mother as he chased after her despite the abuse he must have endured most of his life.

[@ashleyreynolds1991]

yeah, she had done this before to her kids, used to scare them into behaving! No way do I believe there wasn't any abuse!

[@nicoleeee2718]

‼️‼️‼️‼️💔

[@ek2137]

I know, that's what's so heartbreaking 💔 😢 😞 😔 😪 😕

[@tinam761]

@@ashleyreynolds1991 💯!!!

[@suzweinstein]

That’s the part that has me in tears already, just 5 minutes in. It’s actual horror.

[@MrSupersonic2012]

Fucking hell. Watching this video I decided to look a little more into the details of this case. The things that were revealed about what those poor kids went through is just heart breaking. Hog-tied, literally hog-tied and left in a closet for six hours after acting up. Being punched repeatedly by the boyfriend and the mother, and of course what we already knew about how they were left in the park and how James chased after his mom as she drove away and being run over. When she dropped them off in the park to abandon them, all three were tied up, hog-tied. And somehow the littlest one managed to free himself. And he tried to chase after his mother, the same mother who was leaving them for dead, only to get run over by her and have his body dumped in a lake her by her and the boyfriend. (Just typing this out, makes me sick to my stomach...) Those poor kids probably would have had more of a chance of surviving if he hadn't chased after her and they just stayed in that park. Heartbreaking.

[@mariluv2749]

Omg this is so horrible!!!!

[@kellytube123]

Unfortunately the state DCS would have given the kids right back to her 😡😢

[@daguilar443]

@@kellytube123 , unfortunately you are so right. It's like where the system had several chances of saving Gabriel Fernandez but he ended up being brutally tortured to death by his mom and her boyfriend. I had to pause that Netflix documentary so many times to gather myself together. It was unbelievable.

[@asmrdestinationsleep7917]

Heart breaking

[@kathyjones3320]

Absolutely utterly disgusting what they done to those poor children. Poor beautiful babies it's heartbreaking.

[@TrueHeart71]

I got chills when she said "the little boy laid on the ground ." As if she's just an uninvolved bystander. So sad.

[@debbiechrispen9033]

I am heartbroken for the children witnessing the death of their brother. R.I.P little James. She is a cold hearted monster!

[@Toolness1]

I can't even imagine. I am glad the other two got away from those monsters, I hope someone caring took them in and gives them a good life after their mom let her boyfriend beat them and then had to witness her kill their little bro.

[@delilahrainelle7158]

The good thing to come out of this is that in giving his life he saved his siblings. God bless the little fellow. Hope she rots.

[@DeviceAnathema]

Seriously. Those kids are going to need serious mental healthcare. Hopefully whoever has custody right now has the sense to provide that.

[@sarahcollins1233]

Im kk i get

[@itsjodiewho]

I wonder where her other two kids are. Hopefully, not with family. Her childhood was horrific.

[@FaalKoriim]

It's horrifying to think that her surviving children may one day come to watch this video. I desperately hope you are doing okay if you watch this one day. I hope you have found the peace to help you recover. I hope you lead happy lives in spite of this horrible woman. Please know that it is the minority of the people in the world that are this cruel.

[@NocturnalRose05]

Very true, just knowing that they were witness to all this as well is just heart wrenching not to mention all the abuse they went through in the house before hand, I feel horrible that this happened to little James but I feel he saved his siblings from those adults and that environment

[@bee12355]

They will need intense therapy

[@kandizee826]

I'm local to where this happened and her family thinks it was all him and he manipulated her into doing it. He WAS NOT even there when it happened. He may have wanted her to get rid of the kids but he certainly wasn't there when she ran the little one over and even if he told her "leave and drop them off somewhere", it was 100% UP TO HER what to do from there. He wasn't there controlling her or threatening her about it! She did all that on HER own. That family is in denial that she's evil

[@dsyes2867]

That's a shame. These surviving children don't have a chance... Life can be unbelievably cruel... RIP James

[@BelleOfAmherst]

Yes! My heart goes out to the children who will one day learn these facts. We all have a story. This is beyond tragic. I do have a belief that as human beings, we CAN come to survive & thrive. Sending peace to all involved, LE included. 🥰💔✊🏼💙 #respect

[@sunshineforever7194]

The issues she keeps bringing up with the kids peeing on themselves... thats a symptom of abuse. I also had a similar issue when I was a child. Diagnosed CPTSD. It can be a symptom of verbal abuse, physical, and sexual abuse. She even talks about it like "oh well he got in trouble for peeing on himself".... no kid should ever feel bad about that ever. It shouldn't even be a problem. Yes, I know accidents happen... but that's not what I am talking about here.

[@VintageBethany]

She also mentioned around 1:22:00 (approx) that she was raped as a child. I wonder if that affected that. People who are sexually abused often abuse others

[@kathk3203]

I was thinking the same thing. Im sure that was going on too. But, its a distraction and she is trying to appear maternal.

[@amberkirk8574]

She was funny describing how she helped her son to the bathroom when he woke from a nightmare. She said the kids complained she was looking at thier bodies when she said she was washing thier "parts". What WAS that!?

[@proud2bpagan]

i grew up with friends who got punished for soiling themselves, the 'logic' being that the kid knew he/she needed to go to the bathroom,but they didn't want to stop playing long enough to run in.I always thought the practice was idiotic and quite frankly,a form of abuse..noone punishes an adult for trusting a fart one too many times, but kids get their asses beat for the exact same thing.

[@bee12355]

She lied and said they let them stand in the corner to discipline them. Then when the officer told her the girl had a black eye, she said James punch her to discipline her. She is pure evil

[@mariannerogers8003]

She’s very calm and cordial, considering her 6 year old child is missing . I would be hysterical and yelling at the detective to stop wasting my time. I need to find my child!!!

[@darkmatter7266]

Oh but she’s more worried about that than the officer asking if she wants something to drink. 🙄 she’s calculated yet in a self-tattling and unknowing way. Evil with the awareness of a bar-stool.

[@relaxandunwind564]

Why would she be hysterical about a child when she knows he’s dead

[@riceracm]

1:19:09 This hits hard for me because my dad used to do _exactly_ that…starting at the age of 6, when I would go to visit my dad after the divorce, he would purposely get me to turn my attention to something else, like ask me to find a different size shirt, then he would quickly and quietly hightail it out of the store. The first time it happened, I turned back around when he was maybe 50-100 feet away. I started panicking and running after him yelling something like, “daddy daddy, wait for me!” But he was just so much faster. I got to the door of the store right as I saw the taillights of his van disappearing into the night (it was like 9pm). I was so scared, with a feeling of dread, and tears streaming down my face. He came back a few minutes later and got me, laughing hysterically at my fear and pain, they were his favorite drug. Luckily, he started pulling that abandonment game so often, that us kids eventually weren’t even phased when he would take off. We’d just sigh, roll our eyes, and wait for him to come back. But he took special joy in tormenting me, my siblings, and even the occasional neighborhood kids. He would actually _brag_ to other adults about how he scared one of my little friends (also 6) so bad that he peed himself; he was particularly proud of that accomplishment. As an adult now, I can’t understand why other people didn’t say anything…like, who brags about terrifying children? Maybe they were just as messed up as he was, or maybe he played it off as a joke, or maybe that’s one of the reasons why he was constantly moving states….ugh, sorry for the rambling, it just hit me hard and sent me down memory lane…

[@kellisable69]

I am so sorry you had to experience that. You did not deserve it!

[@riceracm]

@@kellisable69 Thank you, I appreciate you saying so

[@regant.cameron8237]

I'm so sorry that your Dad broke your ability to trust by doing that. I would find it hard to respect him. I hope you've found DEEP friendships and perhaps some counseling. Sometimes lovers are good at that. HUGS

[@czechchicklet6890]

It must not be easy to tell your story, God Bless you and yours, prayers 🙏 .

[@babytroll559]

💗💯

[@caitieterasa]

The irony of her lying her whole interview but yet being so angry at the children for lying makes my blood boil. She allowed her poor children to be abused. Another case of a woman who can’t be without a man and puts their relationships before their own flesh and blood. Rip poor little baby.

[@staysane8590]

This monster is unbelievable!! It extra tugs bc my 6 yr old boy is also named James. Heartless wench.

[@jayni2779]

They're evil

[@LeslieJMarshall]

She didn't just "allow" them to be abused. She abused them herself. Likely for many years. I hate this narrative that paints women as victims or passive bystanders and placing the label monster on any man in the situation.

[@LeslieJMarshall]

@Musical BoxWomen rarely surrender custody. It's more likely they just kill the inconvenience My take is that little James wouldn't get out the van and she threw him to the ground. Then drive over him as she fled from her children. Neither of these creatures is going to have an easy time in the range.

[@melaninapeach9170]

@@LeslieJMarshall i hate the pick me narrative you're spewing of just blaming the woman & not the males who CLEARLY abused the children.. she let them & participated as well but why are you trying to exonerate the male?

[@themetalone7739]

I love the repeated, subtle threats of the interrogator saying "I'm really good at my job."

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Reminded me of Tammy , all 'don't worry, we'll know the truth soon'.

[@cornhole3way694]

This would be comforting to someone innocent and only a threat to someone who is guilty.

[@girlinthesouth850]

@@cornhole3way694 right?? I'd be like, damn I'm glad I have a good one working my case!

[@woohu8443]

"So don't you worry Mame, I'm gonna find out what happened to your little boy if it's the last thing I do". "Why thank you officer, I knew I could rely on you."

[@BigDog366]

Detective: Nothing you tell me can shock me. Mother speaks. Detective has to leave the room. Did anyone else hear the pain the second detective's voice when he asked about the glasses? Poor, poor little baby boy.

[@toasted_peach]

“When I went to abandon my children for a man who showed me a moment of attention, I ran over my youngest and traumatized my other two.” Every mother should be able to go up and slap her in the face for what she’s done. We do not claim you.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

Absolutely! Not too mention the way she refers to her kids. I don't understand women like this. I love my kids more than I love myself or anyone else on this planet! I would die and/or be single for the rest of my life before abandoning them. I have 4 boys and they are my reason to live everyday. How can you not feel that way?

[@recibaby6704]

We do not claim you!

[@rachface4119]

She's no mother, she's simply an egg donor incubator

[@Savagee4Christ]

When does she say this exact statement?

[@Kittekitty]

"They both could of been screaming I don't know?" My God! Every instinct in my Mom brain would be too save these children.. even if they're not my own flesh and blood..I can not fathom watching helpless innocent beings suffer to this degree.

[@psych__s6521]

The fact she said “I left it laying there” when addressing her son…. I can’t.

[@haeronalda4136]

Yeah. The detective repeatedly referred to her son as "your baby". I'm guessing it was to try to provoke an emotional reaction from her. The fact that it just never landed says a lot about her

[@vicky_skates]

i noticed that one too

[@Rainfallwarrior]

I was waiting for someone to comment this…”it”. My god. And how she calmly explains she went to the restroom and came back and he was gone. None of that even happened, but the fact that she thought to say this as the more moral option?? Sickening

[@mrslabayen]

@@Rainfallwarrior The "it" was the body. The detective asked about "the body", so she answered using "it". Still crazy. It is easier to disassociate when saying "the body" instead of something more personal like "my son's body". My gosh...6 years old! Ugh!!! I swear this is the exact kind of person my ex DIL is. She has none of her 4 children in her care anymore, thankfully!

[@ganja_bb4203]

@@mrslabayen if she had any child in her care after this everyone who was on the case should've been fired poor baby can't believe she didn't say his name once nor cry unbelievable

[@ellazmutze9800]

the fact that the boy tried to get back into the car just shows how innocent and young he was.

[@miriam100ful]

so no funeral for that poor child. These people really make me sick. A life sentence in jail is too good for them.

[@musicluvr0795]

the way she keeps bringing up how she gives them bathroom privacy, and that the boys arent allowed in their sister's room, makes me think there was sexual abuse going on in the household too.

[@Hortonheardahoe]

Right. My kid begs us to go to the bathroom with her so she won’t be lonely. “Hold my hand while I pee mama” “Dad can you sit with me while I potty and read me a story” You wouldn’t have gender specific rules for your young children, especially in a home with no bedrooms or beds! And typically young children aren’t modest around their parents, regarding their genitalia. My daughter thinks it’s funny to show us her butt when we aren’t expecting it.

[@raimeyewens7518]

She mentioned they frequently had bathroom accidents. That’s also a sign of SA in children.

[@lindasheldon6940]

She also says exactly what Candus Wells said, " I'm not good w time " ... doesn't make a person a criminal, I just thought it was an interesting coincidence. A yr later and Summer is still missing.

[@shay907]

Right, who says they do that so nobody thinks she's doing anything to them...I'm like whhaaa???

[@bee12355]

There were every possible king of abuse going on in that house

[@sheilaomalley4055]

"the baby" "I woke up the brother and sister" ... this is just chilling to hear a mother talk this way about her kids.

[@MargauxNeedler]

That is weird. Is it also weird for my aunt to call her sons "the boys"?

[@jordanstevens3393]

@@MargauxNeedler I don’t think so! I refer to my two brothers as “the boys”, so does my mom. This comment is more in reference to her separating herself from her kids. Chris Watts also tended to do this, referring to his children as “those kids” or “those girls” It’s a way to emotionally and verbally detach yourself.

[@MargauxNeedler]

@@jordanstevens3393 I see. That makes sense :)

[@Kayleigh27]

I do say "the kids" or "the baby" sometimes when talking to others, but I also will say "my kids" or "my baby". Not once does she ever say "MY kids/MY baby"....at least until she "tries" to make the detectives believe that she didn't do it. And I've never heard a mother say "the brother and sister". She's so detached from her own children.

[@nowandaround312]

"The brother and sister" is weird but "the baby" is a completely normal phrase that loving parents use all the time e.g. "Shhh you'll wake up the baby!" or "Can you go check on the baby?" or "The baby is due in 2 months"

[@nicoleshaver99]

The fact that she’s so chill and not at all freaking out wondering where he is, is a dead give away to me. If my child was missing I would be freaking out like question me while we are actively searching. She’s literally laughing while answering questions such a piece of sh**!

[@j.a.k.c9510]

Don’t you wish we could do to her what she did to that poor little baby

[@angelasikorra1541]

Yea one thing that I've seen even in other cases where the parents were the ones to kill the kids, they at least feign desperation out being upset and anxious. This just is NOT how you act when your 6 year old son has been missing since you got up. Her entire demeanor is just .... I want to say she is a sociopath but usually sociopaths unfortunately display much more intelligence than this person has.... she is a few eggs short of a dozen that's for sure. But it's not an excuse at all for anything. Her choice of partner and chosen lifestyle is f****** sad and pathetic. I never realized actuality how many kids are growing up in terribly dysfunctional homes just like this all over the place and it's scary because they are the future and people like this are raising them. I don't personally have them and decided when I was a teen that I was not going to have kids, but I realize they are the future and it scares me to know parents like this are everywhere.

[@LMTechTraining]

I thought the same thing - that I would freak out if one of my kids went missing - until it happened to me. I didn't freak out - completely the opposite - very rational and organized - at least while my 2-year-old daughter was missing. Once I got her back in my arms - well that's a different story.

[@jenn.9868]

Exactly. I was more hysterical than her when my puppy got off his lead for less than a minute, she has absolutely no panic or urgency about her. She is way too calm for a mother who has a missing child.

[@RAWNERVZ]

I think the more we understand mental health the more difficult it is for me to judge what someone deserves but situations like these, geez I pity everyone even the people who investigates it

[@elizabethstanley6701]

One morning my son hid under his bed to try to skip school. I guess he thought i wouldnt find him and id be like "ope, Simon is gone, guess hes not going to school today" lol. I ran around, 8 months pregnant by the way, searching the house calling his name. Ran out side calling his name. His grandparents are our neighbors so i called to see if he woke up early to get grandmas famous cinamon toast. Nope. But they were back at my door in under 20 seconds. I was frantic. I couldnt breathe. My mind was going crazy with scenarios. Then i think he realized it had gone too far and he popped up in the hallway. As soon as i saw that childs face a wave of.relief washed over me. My knees buckled and i fell to the ground sobbing. Its an on going joke between us now. He says he knows how much i love him based on how ugly my scream and my cry over him was lol. This was a matter of 5 minutes. 5 minutes. People like this make me sick. And the scariest part is they are out there being shit ass parents and get away with it until something like this happens.

[@shawnahathaway4762]

I know the exact feeling you're describing and I had the same physical reaction, fell to my knees. We were visiting my parents at their lake house. My 5 year old son went to the back of the house, where his toys were.. less than 5 minutes passed and he was too quiet so I went back there. He wasn't there. I ran outside (it was dark) and started screaming his name. Within 5 minutes I called the police, who showed up real quick. My whole family was walking around screaming for him. The front of the house had woods, the back was a lake. I was thinking of possibilities that were like knives in my heart. We'd banged on both neighbor's doors. One answered and began searching with us. The other was an elderly couple that didn't go to the lake much, their house was totally dark so we assumed they weren't there. At that point it had been about 20 minutes. 13 cops were there and I was driving in a sweeping motion back and forth under the boat dock. Then I heard someone calling my name.. I jumped out of the water and went running up the hill. A police officer was standing there with my son. I went to run to him and physically couldn't, I fell to the ground.. I assume it was adrenaline overwhelming me or something like that. Turns out, he was at the elderly people's home. Their 9 year old grandson was in town and my son was playing a video game with him - wearing headphones. The couple didn't have their hearing aids in and were in bed. My son had played with him the day before but we thought they'd gone home since they didn't respond. I swear I aged 10 years that night and even though it was over 25 years ago I'm crying typing this. My point is that our response must be how a mother that cares reacts. The one in this video is so detached and seems annoyed to have to be there. That is a demon.

[@shawnahathaway4762]

I was diving, not driving under the boat dock

[@mlisaj1111]

I once got separated from my Dad as a young kid…in a crowd at a busy zoo exhibit. I remember his look of “thank God you are alive…I am SO mad at you right now” at the same time.

[@sorrowsprite]

This isn’t just child abuse, this is pure evil

[@renaestevenson1361]

Correct - this is un-f'ing believable. Horrifying.

[@wendyhannan2454]

They may never of been caught out for the child abuse, only for her dear little boy going missing, and then being dumped in a river. 😢 There’s no remorse what so ever, a normal Mother would be beside her self if her child was missing. How often do we hear of the boy friends abusing and not wanting the partners kids. Why or how, could you choose a boyfriend over your kids, it’s far from normal.

[@sagefields5847]

Child abuse is pretty evil

[@louiseevans5752]

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[@sfwatxyo2162]

She's human garbage.

[@Shmerica]

If she was able to do this with such little emotion and literally no remorse, I don't even want to imagine how she treated them on a daily basis. What an evil, dispicable excuse for a human being.

[@casandraholmes9004]

Ikr....animals get treated better .... she needs to get choked out everyday in jail while looking at a picture of her dead son n other children choke till she bout to die let go n do it again everyday then dip her head in the jail toilet full of piss n runny shit everyday ....the way she describes this like she saying I walked to the mailbox n cked the mail ...he was bleeding n it was some blood on the ground not alot but a little but I picked him up put him in van n then throw him in the river!? Wtf!!!

[@ArmstrongChannel]

Yes my thoughts exactly

[@EmmaLouise91]

She's a literal Demon.

[@collegechicx]

The officers ability to keep treating her like a human the whole time is truly AMAZING. She's describing what her 6 year old was wearing when she dumped his body and he's like "oh yeah khakis! I know those pants! haha". It's an amazing skill to keep her trust.

[@proud2bpagan]

the habit that hit home with me was her insisting gthat he was disposed of with them 'bc he needs them'.

[@leahflower9924]

A real psychopath would know not to trust anything the detective says

[@proud2bpagan]

@@leahflower9924 so it'd be sociopathic, right?

[@vixiestarfire]

@@leahflower9924 psycho’s don’t tend to be in their right mind so who knows what anyone is thinking when they’re psychotic 😅

[@leahflower9924]

@@vixiestarfire psychopath and psychosis are different things I know they can overlap but it's not one in the same

[@l-b284]

If you dig deep into this case, it appears that she was sexually abused for years by her father (in Ohio) and became pregnant at age 12, which is how the abuse was discovered. That infant was relinquished. She was in and out of foster homes across 2 states until she was 18, but there's no evidence of any therapy or diagnosis of PTSD, behavioral disorder, etc. At 18, she aged out and was on her own. She says she tried to relinquish custody of her children to the state months before this happened, but, due to some red tape, it never happened. This is when the boyfriend started to convince her to abandon the kids. This was reported in multiple news sources, however there is no further information or evidence this is a fact. Authorities did know there was abuse weeks before the boy's death because both she and the boyfriend were arrested for child abuse. There is a 50-50 chance that ASPD is inherited...could (should?) have the state intervened based on her past (child welfare checks, etc)? was the state responsible for getting her properly diagnosed/therapy when she was a ward of the state? Is this another example of where state laws don't align with reality and red flags were ignored?

[@mooniemoons]

How this officer has the patience to sit and listen without throwing the whole table in her face is impressive.

[@mizconti]

Same. It’s clear from moment one that they did something to that baby but he kept his composure. I wouldn’t have the strength. If you watch the entire interrogation both detectives got were able to say their peace at the end but that’s after at least 5 hours with this monster of a “mother”.

[@ashlieghdeeble9112]

It's how he has a job and no everyone can do certain jobs and that's many other jobs for sure

[@stevieb89]

I'm sure he's thinking it, but If he gets aggressive she has a solid court case to walk free saying she was harassed....

[@Fancy_Stamper]

These two special cops are saints. I would have wanted to strangle her. And I don't usually do that hahaha.

[@Movetheproduct]

Its his job numbnuts

[@cynthiaguarino2016]

No tears, no emotion, very matter of fact. It's as if she's talking about another day in her life. That's what makes these people so dangerous.

[@junglekutz5625]

She talking about one of the many sandwiches that she's bought that didn't taste well. Being able to experience these types first hand is wheeeeeeeeew! My disdain and hate for them is wheeeeeeeeeeew!

[@MrsAi84]

All for a crackhead!!! Did u see wut this guy looks like ? Omg I can’t!! Makes me want to jump thru the screen and drag her by that mops nest!!

[@badnewsbarbienewchannel2011]

She keeps making sure to mention she “makes sure not to make her son feel uncomfortable by going in the bathroom with him,” it’s making me feel like that little boy was being sexually abused.

[@bratlygirl]

I thought this also when she was talking about how she waited outside while he peed. It’s probably worse than we will ever know.

[@JillyMae89]

100%! She brought that up waayy too many times. And then the other one pees his pants a lot, another sign of sexual abuse.

[@WholeWheatWhale]

Plus the daughter making a threat of a specific violent act, stabbing, at school really implies a violent, painful home life.

[@PianoDisneygal10]

What kid even needs his mother there at 6? Unless it is like a public bathroom or the kid has disabilities..

[@WholeWheatWhale]

@@PianoDisneygal10 It could be indicative of how unsafe the kid feels, previous trauma, or the mother could be the one insisting on the behavior but presenting it as the kid's issue. Toileting issues in kiddos are rarely just about the process of toileting, in my experience and education. Considering what she did to the poor kid he mostly likely experienced a great deal of abuse.

[@KaseyAngel222]

“I left it” omg…. Referring to her killed child as “it”…not “him” not “his body” but “it”😢

[@shawnahathaway4762]

She's a demon.

[@qemajlosmani]

It's not acceptable in my brain, how a mother can do something like this and feel no remorse? My grandfather used to say to me "My son, monsters come in different forms and shapes. Some of them even look like humans"

[@seekwisdom5102]

What scooby doo taught me it is that all monsters are humans

[@tiffy81]

Sadly all the real monsters are human! And even worse children living with these monsters without even knowing that the very person/peopls who are supposed to protect you from monsters are the true evil!

[@zeldagirl420]

"All monsters are human"

[@pagangamer87]

Some kids are monsters too.

[@vonathondaniel3168]

“I didn’t just throw him in there cause that’s disrespectful”…. You just admitted to killing your child I’m sure the judge will take into consideration how caring you were to your dead child….. I hope they Lock her fat ass up and feed her one Cheerio a day…

[@JenX_1973]

She tells the cop that she wouldn't get rid of her kids for anyone or anything in this world...but she literally tried to get rid of her kids because her boyfriend told her to!

[@lisaripley1958]

I sat through all of this for James. He deserved much better. My prayer are with the rest of the family

[@nobodyreally8441]

Me too. It hurts my soul to watch pure evil, but it was the least I could do for a boy named James. His story, his horror of a young life, needed to be heard. I wish I could have given him the love he so much needed. I wish I could have read him a good night story, tucked him in and hugged him good night.

[@noneyabizness]

As if it took any effort to watch this. Stfu lol

[@nickclayton412]

Lil James or other James?

[@Dhop]

"We have no furniture and nobody wants to help" Also her: im a stay at home mom" 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@LisaD007]

The most striking aspect of this is that she has absolutely no emotions regarding her own child. It’s so creepy to see a mother with no concerns about her son, to such an extent that she calls him, “The little boy”. Unbelievable.

[@juliesnider7840]

If one of my children or grandchildren were missing I would be beside myself

[@LeftieLoosie]

The fact she is talking about this so nonchalantly THE SAME DAY is literally bone chilling. I feel sick to my stomach watching this. 🤢 that poor baby. 😭

[@karenmcbride1264]

Yes. And the other children. Black eyes and bruises. What a horrible life they were subjected to living. Heart breaking. I commend the Police Officers for being able to control themselves during her interrogation. I am sure I would not be able to show such control.

[@ivecomeforyourpickle5470]

I was naughty and started going through the comments in the begging and WHAT THE FUCK IT WAS THE SAME DAY? AND SHE CAN CALL HER SON AN IT????

[@jessicakairis3080]

Me too!! I'm trying to eat my breakfast and I lost my appetite I can't !!

[@bethwood9377]

Yes. I feel like throwing up.

[@camgood9562]

Even "dumping" an unwanted litter of puppies would be unthinkably evil IMO..I could never understand how someone could do what she did.

[@annebalderston2520]

Cruel, evil people dump innocent puppies and kittens and kill their own children.🙏🏻

[@annebalderston2520]

Evil people do evil things to innocent animals and innocent children. That poor child-he never knew love in his short life and then she abandoned him in rain and the dark in the middle of the night. He is with God now in Heaven and no longer remembers what he suffered on earth. Jesus has him now🙏🏻

[@kristy4245]

That’s exactly what I was thinking when he made the comment about dumping puppies. That’s purely evil too.

[@cassier3544]

Absolutely! Anyone who could do such a thing to either puppies or worse children are scum of the earth as far as I’m concerned and I hope they suffer and are forever haunted by their cruelty towards pure, loving, innocent children or animals

[@sicilyny5375]

I have saved numerous pups and kittens that subhumans dumped like trash. There is no comprehending how a mom can feel nothing or hate for any child certainly her own blood.. Sociopaths, psychopaths, just have no soul. The walking dead

[@GrannyJB]

He can tell that she knows where her little 6 year old is, because she isn’t the least bit emotional when she talks about him. So horrific!

[@nd612]

The part when she said "the little boy was laying in the parking lot." She called her own 6 year old "the little boy" that struck me hard and I have never had kids. You don't have to be a mother to get the feel and to recognize that they are bad parents.

[@raeray8245]

She may be multiple personality.

[@nd612]

@@raeray8245 Maybe so but the hydroxizine does not help. It's very bad she is on it during the day. Doctors know this. Anxiety should not be treated this way during the day. Crazy to give a mother of 3 this kind of medication during the day. It's a good way to fall out and not care and yawn like she is doing.

[@nd612]

@@raeray8245 She should have been diagnosed for that by her psych. They have medication for that also.

[@raeray8245]

@@nd612 She's way too far gone, think its more than those drugs ...she has no empathy whatsoever.

[@nd612]

@@raeray8245 That's true. Your right. But wtf about the stupid psych that didn't know what's up with her before this crime? Stupid or what? Doctors never get in trouble for misdiagnosis. She clearly is a psycho path. No empathy. So cray cray

[@mooeygarnet]

This case was HORRIBLE to listen to, I can't listen to it again. As a mother myself of a 6 year old boy, she makes me want to do terrible horrifying things to her. Makes me so sick 😡😡😡

[@mememe217]

Ditt0

[@meghanmoore4871]

I cry when my son gets hurt and immediately pray over him 💯😭🙏 I mean like a tiny scratch 🤣 as a mother you can't bare to see your child hurt! what a sick 🤢 birthing vessel 🤬

[@gaytwinksfortrump]

These people are inhumane. Not human. They are demonic

[@karenb2873]

You have the worlds permission to complete your mission!!!!

[@GR-bn3xj]

Somewhat there is someone who agrees with you but it's bc they took their masks off. That is the true horror for them

[@h.r.anderson]

i just know that cop wanted to vomit when he said "I know it mustve been a hard decision cause ur a mom." he did an excellent job at getting info out of her and i hope he got the therapy he needed after this whole case

[@Movetheproduct]

Its his job numbnuts

[@asamatteroffact9247]

"I would never not feed my children; I'd rather go without food" ... Yeah right!😂

[@Hatbox948]

I can tell! 🙄

[@SkybyEmerald]

I hated that I was adopted- Unexplainble anger as a teen. But now grown adult and learning about life's harshness...I am understanding that sometimes some people are just really terrible parents, their choices and their lack of clarity in life is hopeless. The best option is adoption not killing your child. Let someone who can't have a child love your child.

[@oren1305]

I hope you had a good experience despite the struggles. I wish more people who are either overwhelmed or clearly not fit to be parents would just surrender their kids to family or adoption. My fiance and I hope to adopt one day ourselves.... it breaks my heart that anyone can carry, birth, raise sweet little humans, and just decide to, "get rid of them", when being a parent gets in the way of their selfish desires.

[@hunterwallace9235]

I also struggled to know my worth growing up. Both my parents abandoned us and my grandmother rest her soul took on 3 grandkids all the way until God called her home when I was 17 (she was 65) But I too realized that my parents did the most selfless act a parent could do. They knew they couldn’t raise babies while also head deep in their addictions, so the gave us a REAL chance at life, and at love. I will always appreciate them, for at least that.

[@drdabsmore945]

I hope everything turned out well for you.

[@saniyahgordon]

This interrogation was handled so well. This woman is just casually describing what her son is wearing like he’s alive. “He has his glasses with him” “he’s wearing a cap jacket and khakis” when she knows he’s dead😔that poor baby.

[@robynfourie6615]

The fact that she mentions how little James always thought she was looking at his “p-bird “ and that he can’t go to the bathroom with her watching is such a sign of sexual abuse

[@monabrodalen8815]

That was strange.. A normal mother would have asked questions if a little boy felt that way.. But sadly she was a abuser herself..

[@savannah82374]

Definitely no sexual abuse there let's not make it more than it is because you it's because KZbin people like to do that.. what it was is that she was just an mother Who clearly had a child with her current boyfriend's father if anybody caught that that's what she was trying to she was trying to say and the kid had issues and mental problems and she just couldn't deal with that like most people can't there was nothing sexual about it she was just a piece of shit........

[@Margohagan111]

I thought the same exact thing; that is a huge red flag why would you not question that or press that topic more just sad

[@mantistoast2716]

Plus she mentioned the kids frequently peeing themselves, which is also a sign. Very unfortuante

[@babypinkribbon]

@@mantistoast2716 i totally caught on to this too :( definitely a sign of sexual trauma :((

[@johnallen2233]

The fact that she says "it" and "the little boy" when talking about just leaving his body in the parking lot/park, says that her kids weren't her children to her anymore. Just objects. What a monster 🥺🙄 R.I.P. James ❤️

[@JcohenK]

When She kept on referring to her son as “the baby”, “the little boy” - I knew she was guilty. She couldn’t even say his name. What’s worse is, even about her two other kids she said “brother and sister must be worried” or something like this. In her head she must have been ready and willing to get rid of them too. What a lying piece of garbage. Thankfully she’s so stupid and such a bad liar, they were able to break her in an hour and hopefully get some justice for James

[@HeatherWho11.10]

I think they said the original intention was to abandon all three kids. Her boyfriend convinced her to. They are both so fucked up

[@tonyavillatoro7849]

So sad😭😭😭😡😡

[@Cmoney-2cd]

It's sad. They hogtied those kids and put them in a closet. Big James beat little James which I believe is what killed him. Then they threw him off a bridge. The whole story about the boy getting run over was another lie.

[@charliechurch5004]

I call my daughter the baby....she's 11 lol I'm a stay at home homeschooling mommy, my children and I are very close and happy. Some ppl just say the 🍼 baby. My granny called my mom the baby her whole life till she passed. My mom was her baby her youngest. We are southern 🤷🏿 maybe it's different for us. Like "mamma and them" it's just something we say..... that being said yes this woman is a monster

[@charliechurch5004]

@@tonyavillatoro7849 indeed

[@jordanstevens3393]

My mouth dropped at 1:00:52 - referring to her child’s body as “it”…… I left “it” and “the little boy”… I have no words to describe a person so sinister

[@stephaniewood6133]

Same…

[@blister9366]

She meant the body but yeah. Shes seriously messed up. She might be 13 mentally and she got with the wrong guy ....

[@samsnothavingit2788]

@@blister9366 even at 13 I knew abandoning babies and running them over then leaving them to die was indeed very wrong

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

It’s really cold and like she’s detached from her own children

[@monalee8051]

Same!! It's unfathomable..

[@proud2bpagan]

I know there's a huge debate about the ethical nature of abortion, but it seems to me that in this case, her having 3 of em would've been more merciful than making the kids live through the Hell that was their lives. Rest in Peace and Power, James..you deserved so much more care and love than you recieved.

[@decgunner]

Your actually right

[@therealnibbles1281]

So we should kill off 3rd world countries??

[@jennSalvate]

If not abortion, she could have given birth and then surrendered them to the state. Many couples would have loved to have adopted those sweet babies.

[@laceyclair82]

Too bad HER mom didn't have an abortion..

[@marriellenpeachynyaabbagit6089]

@@jennSalvate heard a woman in an adoption agency ask “ Why would anyone want a child their on own Family didn’t want”. Heard a woman who can’t have children of her own say when asked “Why not adopt “? “I don’t want an unwanted child. I would marry a man With children. At least they have the same genes “. Not Enough Loving Parents for adoptions. More of the opposite kind of non parent. Let’s Not Forget the Massive cases of abuse that goes on

[@brookemcquate6796]

It’s strange that she’s very adamant to talk about things like not going in the bathroom with them, not letting the boys sleep with the girls, but then continues to lie about trying to abandon her children, and ultimately disposing of her sons body. Girl, one of those is worse than standing in the bathroom all your son uses it🤷🏼‍♀️😩

[@catherinerickard699]

the details about bathroom and washing is a sign of SA

[@Cynorwin]

I love the detective's sarcastic "sure, sure" whenever she starts speaking that 'mom of the year' bullcrap.

[@bee12355]

The second office had zero patience for her foolishness.

[@Cynorwin]

@@bee12355 ZERO.

[@emmaorta88]

I didn’t dig the second guy’s style. Calling her “honey”. The first guy was getting more details.

[@TabithaStabitha]

@@emmaorta88 I get why that would be off-putting to you but DAMN does it ever work on these certain types. The 'Me-Me-Me' types. My bio mother eats that bs up, begging for more!!

[@dsyes2867]

Let's throw our hats at the interrogator... This guy has it down to a science... He's put in thought, time, and effort to the art. Bravo!

[@martini3524]

I've watched a few cases like this on KZbin recently. My admiration for the skill of police interrogators has greatly increased. They play a vital role in keeping society civilised.

[@danielm4114]

Sitting across from Gosney for the first hour is Det. Jon Hoover, and the second investigator that comes in and sits to her left is Det. Tom McIntosh. McIntosh was busy in the next room questioning Gosney's boyfriend James Hamilton, and they both take turns talking to either suspect individually and as a team. There's footage of those conversations as well as Gosney's pre-polygraph interview and subsequent lie detector test. Seek them out for additional context.

[@Goldie789]

I can not stand the fact that this monster got through this entire interrogation without a single tear! That's beyond cold. It's evil.

[@brl0522]

She gets SSI for all these kids but can’t buy them beds? 😡😡😡😡

[@rockulikeahurricane]

Throughout this whole video she refers to her son as “that kid”, “that boy” and even when she was asked where she left the body she said “i left IT there”. She is not even talking like this was her son but like some random kid that she doesn’t know. Unbelievable. So sad for those children

[@gemmag.2988]

She is whackadoodle in a malignant way.

[@Lumina_Solaris]

I noticed this, too. She does it with her other kids, too. Instead of "my middle son," she says, "the middle son." Instead of "his siblings," she says, "the siblings." That's very detached and speaks volumes of the way that she thinks about them. She doesn't mentally or verbally identify them as being her responsibility, which is crazy to me.

[@drygnfyre]

It reminded me a lot of the Chris Watts interview. They were always "those kids" and always spoken about in a past tense. People who speak that way seem to have no attachment to anyone.

[@SKPonr]

She basically has no emotional attachment to her children

[@puppymom77]

She also refers to the other kids as “James’ brother and sister”

[@ZenSolipsist]

I really can’t understand when people begin to treat their children as objects of inconvenience, barely feed them, and then throw them out like trash. It’s like they forget they were a child once and would never ever want to go through this

[@publixskate]

Its worse with pets.

[@dankus.memeokus4192]

@@publixskate no it's really not this is a human being

[@susanmartin3762]

I'd be so pressed that this cop was wasting time asking me all these questions instead of looking for my child!! That is how an innocent person would react to this. All she is trying to do is to save her sorry ass!! She can't even call her son by his name!

[@leegalen8383]

Sterilization but its too late for the poor little boy. This woman has zero emotions and wow is she stupid.

[@Mrscarricom]

When we learnt the difference between a name / title life would make more since. Because she give birth that doesnt make her a loving parent.

[@brettkelly4204]

The amount of unnecessary details has me enraged. I would have been yelling at her to shut up. The other cop is my hero for keeping her on subject

[@bozekblack]

The trauma that his siblings will have to endure for the rest of their lives is terrible. How heart breaking. As a mother, I can’t even fathom how she could even attempt to abandon these kids, let alone be coherent after killing one or them!

[@raintree3383]

The way she made a point of saying she did not go in the bathroom with Baby James so he wont think she "is messing" with him FREAKED ME OUT....why did she need to make sure the Detective knew she didnt go in with him ?? Some kind of s abuse was going on...

[@esosaimasuen8122]

Oh my gosh. I literally paused the video and headed straight to the comments to see if anyone else caught that. Messing with him? Does she not give him baths? No normal parent's mind would ever go there, unless it's already there...

[@raintree3383]

@@esosaimasuen8122 Right ? As a Mom of two adult Sons I can say her comments are twisted....as soon as she said that I was confused for a second and then I got chills....I think it's a blessing for her other kids that they are not being raised by this psychopath...this Case disturbed me Thank you for your reply and love from Canada !

[@seththomas6727]

I thought that same thing! I go in with my son when he is going potty when we are out (he is 3) and I was like why would you specify that? It’s normal for a parent to be there

[@esosaimasuen8122]

@@raintree3383 I read about her unfortunate childhood and it makes sense. She was abused and r**** by her father constantly. Eventually she was removed from his home at 12 when she gave birth to his baby! Then she was placed in and out of various foster homes and group homes where she continued to face abuse. I'm not saying this is an excuse, but it shows that actions don't happen in a vacuum.

[@janewestcountry5131]

Weird revelation for sure .

[@ron072684]

Detective: "Is he physically healthy, no health issues?" Mother: "No, none!" I figure being dead is a health issue... Did she not realize that abandoning her kids would've put her in jail also? It's not like the kids couldn't identify who she was

[@therrastrial]

Her: "I love my kids, I would never do that to my kids." Also her: "I was going to abandon them in the park and I also killed my son."

[@gemmag.2988]

She must be mentally unstable no? What is her diagnosis?

[@aloraogle3374]

Omg right?! Was thinking she thing. Smh...so sad. ..

[@nickdarr7328]

At 51 minutes. "What is remorse?" That's the first honest thing she said

[@davidokin124]

If my husband said, “It’s me or the cat,”we would miss my husband very much.

[@Icekat11]

Haha I agree…. No contest, the cat stays. But, my cat and I wouldn’t miss someone who dared to insult him 😂

[@luvcherry]

I can never understand people who are willing to give up a pet for their deadbeat boyfriend/girlfriend like tf let alone children

[@jacksonstenhouse4429]

Lol. No wonder I'm not married.....

[@Spooky_Dook]

The Cat stays. ☺.

[@leeannbaxter]

For real! My dog and kids over everything!

[@sciencewithmrs.santiago6225]

The nonchalance with which she speaks about her child’s death and then body being thrown in a river is literally one of the most chilling things I’ve ever seen.

[@meganking3762]

I cannot understand why people would ever be able to hurt their children. I am so sorry these sweet children ever had to endure any of this. That's so heartbreaking.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

bc shes more interested in the druggy boyfriend thats why.

[@glasshibou]

Too many people treat their kids like accessories. I see it with my students too often, sadly.

[@gelly8983]

Any child to be honest. I cant imagine 😢 even animals or sick even elderly or someone unable to care for themselves in any possible way. I just can't see how someone can literally be this evil in their soul or heart and mind its so fkn disgusting on so many levels 😤

[@322subject]

To be fair, many adults aren’t fit to parent.

[@teridoster5840]

Idek and I went thru a childhood full of pain, walking on eggshells and doing everything in my power to please my father so he wouldn't hurt me. I suffered extremely violent physical ab*se once or twice a week, and the worst mental and emotional ab*se you could think of daily until I escaped at age 16. I was never once told I love you or I'm proud of you (quite the opposite actually), I was only ever touched in anger, never with care, and always spoken to (or screamed at) with vitriol. I have lifelong issues physically and emotionally due to all the trauma. I've _always_ wondered how and why, but even as an adult I could never build up enough courage to ask, so I suppose I'll never know the answers. Some people should *never* have children, but unfortunately they do.

[@kurtkaster5666]

The image of a little kid trying to climb back into his family van, not understanding why he's being left, and getting dragged, has to be the saddest thing I've ever heard in my life! 6 year old kids are so cute, how a human being could do that is beyond me.

[@SamuraiFoochs]

I'll keep it real, I'm generally no huge fan of police in my day to day. But the respect I have for police officers to not absolutely fly off the handle at these absolutely reprehensible wastes of oxygen is beyond words. The restraint, my GOD.

[@theoboegoddess]

I know, I would have wanted to lunge at her. How dare she. The audacity to have ZERO care in the world towards innocent, vulnerable kids. Especially your own! I cannot believe people like this exist!

[@theoboegoddess]

Edit- monsters. She is no human being.

[@cassier3544]

Yes I agree absolutely!

[@jeffreynapisa122]

Yesssss!

[@pattydella4]

They must have to completely compartmentalize it in their minds to get through it and achieve their gooal.

[@smolCharlotte]

She was with a man who convinced her to get rid of her three babies and she was ok with that. Then actually did it. Then drove over her baby, traumatised her other two then mistreated his dead body. How can evil like this exist! I’m dumbfounded

[@staysane8590]

This monster is unbelievable!! It extra tugs bc my 6 yr old boy is also named James. Heartless wench.

[@jhoughjr1]

By escheweing traditional values.

[@Dante3214]

By her being heartless and stupid. Sometimes people don't have much empathy, or lose it after years of hard drug/alcohol use. These are the personality changes the textbooks talk about.. I wanted to disagree with the idea this was because of a lack of "traditional values", but I realized I don't actually know what the commenter meant in this context.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

@Leggo MuhEggo traditional values...Aka stoning women for being raped and selling your daughter for a couple of goats. I really don't think that's the issue. People's have killed/ abandoned their kids since the very beginning when living in caves

[@michaelabaumgartner7188]

Charlotte, Du hast vollkommen Recht !!! Diesem Stück Dreck wurden 3 Leben ( Kinder ) von Gott geschenkt; und was tat sie? Alles außer Ihre Kinder 👶 vor Anderen Menschen und sogar Ihrem Freund zu beschützen ‼️‼️ Wie jämmerlich ist Sie, wenn ihr Freund 100 mal wichtiger ist wie ihr eigen Fleisch und Blut 🩸, Das soll mir mal einer erklären, denn eine Liebende Mutter die alles für ihre Kinder tun würde, würde diesen Freund sofort aus der Wohnung werfen, ihn anzeigen und diese Beziehung beenden!!! So wie es aussieht glaubt ihre Lügen selbst aber bitte, denn am Ende des Tages kommt die Wahrheit raus und die Gerechtigkeit siegt so wie es sich gehört. Es ist so tragisch, der kleine ist tot und die beiden anderen Kinder werden wahrscheinlich getrennt und kommen in verschiedene Waisenhäuser oder Pflege Familien wo die Geschwister wahrscheinlich,keinen Kontakt zu einander haben werden beziehungsweise dürfen

[@Carnivorousplant271]

This made me go into my 3 year old's room in the middle of the night while watching this, wake him up to give him fresh water, kiss and hug him and not leave that room until he knew how much I love him. So glad my sweetly sleeping baby will never know the horror of being abandoned in the middle of a cold, wet, dark night. Rip precious little one.

[@cindytartt4048]

You woke him up? Okaaay.

[@pepperyoga4708]

@@cindytartt4048 not that deep

[@cindytartt4048]

@@pepperyoga4708 no, it was stupid, is what I meant.

[@gregs6747]

@@pepperyoga4708 yeah no reason to wake him up..... mother sounds very emotional.. too emotional

[@fruitcup7245]

this is so sweet. it’s the little things

[@jakebiassa]

She doesn't sound upset at all about her son's death. I can't imagine not caring if one of my babies died. Poor little James deserved a better mother.

[@ginger7344]

I crossed that bridge 4 times this past weekend. It’s such a huge scary place with power and distillery plants on all sides. A horrible sadness creeps over me with every pass.

[@rvk6321]

Where is this located?

[@crowmedicine3890]

Oh my goodness, I can imagine.

[@krystalriley10]

I’m so sorry. It’s hard to go places where you KNOW something horrible happened. Well anyways … I live in the bay area and 2 years ago 4 people (1 was pregnant) were driving across the carquinez bridge when all the sudden the driver lost control and accidentally drove off the side of the bridge and fell into concrete. When I would drive by you could still see the tire marks where they went off. It just is freaky…. Going somewhere where you know that thing happened.

[@krystalriley10]

They all passed away btw

[@doragonzalez3298]

💙

[@leish3644]

"he WAS a pretty good kid" would've been a massive red flag for that officer.

[@milkkeato7613]

Good catch

[@ej6296]

im sure he caught that! people really be giving themselves away

[@KristinRyan22]

Oh I didn't catch that the first time. Man oh man....😕

[@leish3644]

@Sunni RedboneCalifornia thanks

[@jennatutor5222]

What’s the time stamp on that?

[@BamaFanUSMC]

18 minutes into it, and I can't help but notice she is calm and cool. If my 6 year old child is missing, I would be hysterical and crying. And telling this detective, I need to be out there doing something to find my child. She acts like she is in a job interview or something

[@Kahlalily]

And the long pauses when he asks her questions or what's going on...🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@ashleyreynolds1991]

yup, I could just sit there, oh man... I am getting antsy just thinking about it!

[@coolnamebro8130]

Yes same I would hate to be in that room when I could be out there looking for him! I don’t got time to answer any questions. 😩

[@dollsNcats]

Right !!!! My 6 year old walked away from me and I didn’t notice . We were food shopping and she stood by the door and j thought she was still going. I Turn around and don’t see her . O LOST MY MIND. Screaming hysterically. Like 30 seconds later she’s like “IM RIGHT HERE I GOT COLD in the milk aisle”

[@guardianangels111]

Are anyone of you are a single mum and Holmes and have no job ?

[@mariegoleti]

Ive seen a squirrel fight a snake for another squirrels sake. “Its” oh you mean your child?

[@annabanana7084]

Most people wouldn't abandon an animal let alone three small children. What the hell were they expecting? To abandon their children and live a free life? If this were my child missing or omg my grandbaby I would be on the floor unconsolable, forget about telling little stories and answering questions. She is a true monster in every sense of the word

[@hillarybillary21]

You’ve got it backwards. Most people would abandon an animal. The minority of people wouldn’t.

[@sschi9298]

She talks about her dying son like describing a car's engine blowing up. She literally made my stomach turn.

[@italomarcelo23]

Pure evil bro

[@kyle284]

Hell I’d be even more sad about a blown engine then she was about her own baby boy!

[@molossergirl2]

I lost my only son to cancer, I would have died instead of him, I cannot stomach this woman who speaks of her child as if he is some abstract thought she once had. Evil is not the word for her.

[@pebbles92able]

@@molossergirl2 so sorry

[@poloniumhalos6120]

And another sad part is that this child still loved his mother enough to bother chasing her.

[@Converged_Entity]

God, this comment hits so hard, My brother and myself are adopted 23and24 years old now, for the longest time my brother who is mid fuctioning autistic would try and find ohr mother, she couldnt take care of us because of a herion addiction so we were taken away at a very young age, a child will unconditionally love their parent until a certain level of maturity is obtained, i hurt so much knowing that him chasing an empty husk of a mother left him emotionilly and physically void.