When Being Biracial Becomes the Representation of Black Hair : Texturism & Erasure.

[@magzjay2458]

Viola Davis requiring her natural hair be shown on her show How to Get Away with murder was groundbreaking and allowed me to see my hair texture on tv. I am grateful to her.

[@cinnamonstar808]

she deserved that emmy win

[@cassthegrimm8522]

She definitely made me feel pretty seeing her in her natural hair and her signature snotty nose

[@chicagoliightsx]

@@cassthegrimm8522 😆👏🏽 Beautiful! Haha🙌🏽✨

[@mastercyclonia]

Yes! I will never forget that

[@msbrad2013]

I cried no lie

[@diarramboup571]

Being able to run your fingers through your hair (without a silk press or blow out) does NOT represent me lmaooo 😂🤣🤣

[@-_Somebody_]

This

[@anikaevanson6578]

THANK YOU!!!

[@ForbsieLaLa]

I love my fingers and even with a blow out it has to be done immediately because those hairs find every reason and no reason to intertwine

[@ms-abominable]

I'm sayin!! I gotta be under the water for 4 hours before I can feel it hit my scalp ok?????

[@hartandsoul85]

Right!!! I'd rip out half my hair if I tried copying her hair routine. Oops , shouldn't have said that! As soon as people with 4c (4z?) hair say something like that, we get jumped on with, "It's because you're not using the right products," or, "Your hair must be damaged..."

[@molebohengmaphepha80]

As someone who is from South Africa, instantly understood the concept of Texturism when you said it without even googling it. During Apartheid they had the "Pencil Hair Test" where they'd use a pencil to run through your hair, if it passed through one's hair easily, you were other considered white or colored which I know is a slur in the USA, but it is socially acceptable in South Africa and is categorized as a race. Just by one's texture of their hair, their whole life was determined, access to schools, higher education, location, healthcare and etc. So yes conversations around black hair are political and do matter.

[@Mimi-rk1vy]

Wow, that’s interesting & sad.

[@marie-francoiset9402]

I think SA had way more serious issues beyond hair. you were displaced in your own country. hair was the least of it.

[@Itsgoodtobehere95]

@@marie-francoiset9402 no it wasn’t the least. It’s one of the many other problems. You can’t undermine a problem you never experienced

[@msnakase]

@@marie-francoiset9402hair actually played a role in determining a person social status and segregation in South Africa during the apartheid times.

[@brombromsmuva9215]

Awful

[@Shalayah2010]

What you said was SO profound. You can see Tia's hair texture on many other races or ethnicities; white, Spanish, Latinas, hell even Arabics.. but you will NEVER see my texture (4c) on any other race BUT black ppl. THIS IS BLACK HAIR" I love it!!

[@mynameiswoman]

I hv 14% black ancestry...(one of my grandmother's was biracial) and my hair is more kinky than Tia. However I would never call myself black because I'm not. I'm a mixed person and identify as such.

[@Shalayah2010]

@@mynameiswoman And that's perfectly ok =) I don't understand why biracial ppl feel like they have to choose. your not just black and your not just white. your biracial. be proud of it.

[@angiesspace2644]

@@mynameiswoman who is asking you to. Why are you even on here debating your race. If you are mixed you are mixed end of.

[@PinkShawty149]

I’m mixed and have 4c hair lol dad is black, mom is black/white

[@mynameiswoman]

@@angiesspace2644who's debating?! my dear one must try to refrain from commenting when one's on their period. Irate much!

[@EmpressSunshinesMother]

Mainly in America have I seen that it is common for biracial people to identify as black. Where I’m from in the UK and many countries I have travelled to, biracial is biracial and black is black. This ridiculous notion of calling everyone with 1% black, black, needs to be addressed and shelved. You can’t refer to people like Obama, Halle Berry, Mariah Carey, and Tia etc as black one day and then the next be outraged by Tia’s video.

[@howcanyoudothistome1]

Agreed

[@Cinnamoncupquake]

Who is calling Mariah Carey black? 😂

[@Iletyoulive]

@@Cinnamoncupquake delusional BP with self hate issues

[@c.c.2302]

@@Cinnamoncupquake A LOT of ppl. Let’s be real

[@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL]

America forces people to pick a side but Black women are changing that

[@ElisiasEvolution]

When have you ever seen a women with afro hair or locs promoting a hair product? I haven't, We need more representation!!

[@HealthyBrownGirls]

Tabitha Brown...however she advertises that her products are for ALL hair types...which is a topic for another conversation if you ask me...

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

@@HealthyBrownGirls I HATE that advertising; it's just confusing and often means "jack of all trades, master of none". Thank God for Qhemet Biologics and 4C only hair products (and others).

[@ElisiasEvolution]

@@HealthyBrownGirls OK that's natural hair, I love tab, what about locs then??

[@ElisiasEvolution]

@@robyn8342 Is that on TV?? I haven't seen anyone with locs over here, maybe relaxed hair that's about it.. I'm in the U.K..

[@ziora0]

Women with 4 type hair will have to be representation they want to see. Nobody can force us, we have to embrace our hair to the fullest. We’d made it so easy for 2 and 3 type people to take over the movement because we hide our hair

[@PrettyPrincess9609]

This is part of the reason why so many black people hate their type 4 hair because biracial people with type 3 hair have been the standard of beauty in the black community. That’s why we see comments from black women with type 4 hair under biracial women with loose curls videos like “ my 4c hair could never “, “ you got that good hair “, “ I wish I had curls like you “, or “ I can’t 4c myself doing that “. This is also why I’m against the one drop rule. Black people need to stop claiming everyone as black for having one black parent or I even seen in some cases black people claiming mixed people for having a distant black relative. It’s time to let the one drop rule go.

[@cindycarr8708]

I agree with what you are saying. You are not 100% black if you have an other parent. To hell with the one drop whyte made up rule. We are the only drop that claim biracial and triaxial people. I don't care if you mix yourself out of existence, but you don't get to be black with other nationalities running through your veins. Nothing against the mixed ones, but you do have two or more sides of yourself, so why only claim half or a third of yourself. I have 4C hair, but most of the women in my family do not, and they have two black parents. There was most likely some mixing in the gene pool at some point in time or maybe not, I don't know.

[@wakandavibranium5053]

Growing up in the 90s in Africa, used to wish I could have that 3c hair. Those shows parading biracials as black did a number on us. Claire from My wife and kids had black parents but looked biracial😅

[@benjamin_6945]

@Yup Yup You might be an exception to the rule…but it doesn’t change the overall struggle for REAL black Girls and Women…they face in western societies…they struggle more than mixed people in fake and racist white supremacist democracies like America and the European Union etc.

[@lorrainemadison8569]

@Wakanda , idk if u recall, the early season of My Wife & Kids the oldest daughter dark skin. Next u know, she was xhanged out to the lighter skin girl. Imo, both daughters (new oldest one & the youngest one looked biracial to me. Lol

[@kindred42]

This part. The one drop rule needs to be DROPPED.

[@terrancemaloney29]

I've noticed that mixed people with loose coil textured hair has become the standard of "Natural Hair". Tracee Ellis Ross, Tia & Tamera Mowry, etc. Real Black hair is ALOT DIFFERENT from those hair types. I've definitely noticed the visual representation of Black hair really is what we call "good hair".

[@lyanarose1382]

I agree with your statement however I wouldn’t call it “real black hair” as we know black hair comes in all types, forms and textures. Fully black women have the same hair type as a lot of the women you’ve mentioned so it was still be “real black hair” the coarseness or texture of a hair should not change that. I do believe however we need to see more and different textures as much as we see those. Texturism is still very much a problem.

[@terrancemaloney29]

@Lyaná Rose Loose coil hair texture comes from mixing White with Black. Your parents can both be Black people... and you can consider yourself as fully Black because of that. But that's not true. Its in the Blood. The mixing is still there. THAT is why there are so many textures as you mentioned.

[@lyanarose1382]

@@terrancemaloney29 there are people with coarse hair that are mixed and even more mixed then those you mentioned. Technically all of us have mixed blood in us at some point thanks to slavery. Also there are true Africans with looser hair texture throughout history. I see your point but it is solely an opinion and not fact.

[@tias.6675]

So called "black hair" can look the same as theirs. It's not uncommon. This is America. My niece isn't biracial at all and has a similar hair texture.

[@mdte5421]

No I disagree! I’m a black woman from east Africa Ethiopia ! I have a hair texture like tia or those women u listed! Black ppl hair and Color come in different texture etc .. and don’t come back and say we are mixed because we are not !!!

[@puppywifey]

"Real black hair is hair that couldn't be any other texture." The audacity of me not realizing this until you said it. Only other black women have hair like me. Right, you're so right. 🥰

[@Fudgeey]

I love the quote and the intent of the message. I genuinely feel like this should be the foundation of quote unquote "Black Hair", while biracial and/or pale skinned Black people with type 4c get their products and representation from OUR image and maintenance routines, not the other way around.

[@octoberflower6943]

The covert racism is clear if our community stopped wanting to be light skinned or mixed.

[@NickyM_0]

@@octoberflower6943 'colourism' not racism but yes, I agree and that is what Tia is playing into and commercially attempting to capitalise on and that annoys me so much. America and this crazy 1 drop rule mentality has everyone fked up about true Blackness.

[@roperryinspirationalvoices1421]

You’re absolutely right, period!

[@bluecashmere1412]

You are so on point, first I love your hair how can you go wrong with what God gave you, if I had nerver put perm on my hair year after year it would be your length but that is what am working on now

[@avainspired]

Growing up as a black girl, being ultimately erased from the media has taken a toll on me.

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

Same, it has made extremely depressed to the point where i dont even watch anything with black woman unless she's actually black

[@smilesallround]

@@ASprinkleofAnime yes!! Same here, it's sad.

[@basedki3780]

You’re not erased now so please be more grateful for how far we came now…

[@avainspired]

@@basedki3780 i'm grateful but its still damaged my younger self :(

[@avainspired]

@@ASprinkleofAnime fr!!

[@upsettispaghettispaghetti2114]

I always refer to what Fab Socialism said “If Saweetie is black, I must be a super-negro” cuz the way blk women have been erased from media and real blk hair isn’t even regarded in our hair products is MAD. All these products are either aren’t for our hair, or selling an image for making it looser texture. Ms. Mowry really thought she ate lmao

[@dajiyahmcae1880]

That part

[@serenatsukino5252]

Lol I watched that video and ever since then, I've been saying that when it comes to mixed people. "If X is black, then I must be super negro".

[@JulianSteve]

@@serenatsukino5252 Same here. I watched that video over 20 times and I been calling myself a super negro ever since🙅🏾‍♂️😂‼️

[@leigh4326]

Girl even the products are being taken away cause we can’t have anything.

[@justinethomas5020]

See that why Black people are considered dumb.. You can't even write proper Grammar! What in the world does "she thinks she ate" mean. Grow up

[@elainamcclendon5593]

No joke. When she referred to her hair as “black hair” I thought she want referring to the actual color of it. I didn’t think she would be wild to think it was actually black, kinky hair.

[@vodkavuitton]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sadievirtue1636]

If Tia Mowry thinks her hair is the "standard" of black hair, then she's dismissing all black women who do not have hair like hers! Her white privilege is certainly alive and well!

[@adesuwa9112]

Sadly so true- I’ve been a fan of hers for years and hated when I saw that she posted this esp just to peddle a random hair care product 🙃

[@nicestdrummergrl]

EXACTLYYYYY!! 💯

[@justinethomas5020]

Stop with all this crap about white privilege Yall sound dumb as hell. If yall don't like mixed people due to self hate or whatever just say that

[@octoberflower6943]

Exactly why I don't like her

[@fedhaamour]

Exactly

[@oyagyal2187]

As a Darkskinned, 4C hair girl...I applaud you for being TRUTHFUL. Everyone's so freaking sensitive that they don't want to hear the Truth and are content in continuing to hurt and offend others who match the look of the discriminated... rather than utilize their platform to know and DO better. Thank you for being Honest, Shameless, and absolutely Stunning!!! Asé sis

[@ladybird491]

What does dark skin got to do with this subject. I am brown skin and got super thick tight afro hair.

[@oyagyal2187]

@@ladybird491 I can't speak for you. I'm only speaking from my perspective.

[@favs_Mary]

you’re even nigerian!🙌❤️

[@fayolalulusandy5546]

I’m mixed and I’ve been saying for forever. Bi- racial people are not black !! Ffs

[@ourfamily7191]

@@ladybird491 it’s the brown paper bag you would fall into the category of not being light enough to pass the test case and point girlfriends both the Toni character and the Maya character fail the brown paper bag test which means they are considered dark skinned even though one is considered brown skinned it’s the shade of brown skin that falls into question of not being light enough I have seen your page you would fall into this category as too dark even though you are a lighter shade of dark if basically you aren’t lighter than a brown paper bag which means if you are the shade of the brown paper bag or darker you are considered too dark be proud of the skin you are in not saying that you aren’t relevant in this conversation we as dark women need to stand together and stop trying to stand out amongst each other I’m dark and my daughter is darker and we don’t have 4 C textured hair but we fail the brown paper bag test should I be saying that this doesn’t apply to us because we don’t have 4C hair? NO THIS IS ABOUT OUR ERASURE and WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER ON THIS BECAUSE WE ARE DISAPPEARING PERIOD this is all love and I am going to subscribe to your page God bless

[@occasionallyemo]

I’m biracial with an African black mum, I lived in Africa when I was younger & have 3c hair. My hair was never an issue. It was always praised & celebrated. And it was never seen as black hair so when I see other biracial people do 💩 like this it seriously gets on my last nerve because who are you kidding, really? It’s okay to be biracial. It’s okay to admit we don’t have the same struggles as monoracial black people. We have different struggles & they are hard, but they’re not the same. I specifically see mainly biracial people that are either American or have grown up outside of Africa to have this mentality. Bffr sis.

[@yasmina5556]

I agree with you 100% as a biracial woman (with an African black mother as well). My hair has always been praised by people, saying how pretty my curls are etc. I don’t understand this as well not willing to admit they are biracial and that the struggles are simply not the same.

[@AutumnLeavesChristmasTrees]

Same here. My mom is African American. I feel like it’s a lil different bc we have Black mamas maybe? I always felt my mentality was different than those biracial kids that had shot mom’s

[@marie-francoiset9402]

the african situation is totally different from AA. it's not comparable.

[@DStrawberry77]

You are a literal pick me, as a biracial with a Xhosa African mom that grew up in Africa & in several other countries, I was the only person wearing my natural hair as it was. Im 3c/4A and where I grew up I was grocery made fun of, mocked & even bullied for my hair. Stop speaking for all of us. If that wasn’t your experience, cool but you are not the representative.

[@IvyMercedes1687]

@@DStrawberry77 it doesn't matter you still not black nor will you ever be a black women

[@loveandjoy810]

As someone who is biracial, I agree 100% with what you are saying. My hair does NOT represent black hair at all. I have 2 daughters with my African husband. Both girls have 4c hair and both are struggling to accept themselves and the way they look. It breaks my heart because both of my girls are so beautiful. I struggled with how to style their hair because mine is literally wash and go, whereas I have to plan and spend hours styling and braiding their hair. I stepped up to the challenge to learn how to properly do their hair and I want them to feel proud of who they really are. It’s a challenge when the world is so Eurocentric and it doesn’t help that they see how little time I have to spend on my hair. One daughter said, I wish I would have gotten your hair mom. I nearly cried. I’m still trying to help them love themselves as is.

[@girlonline9038]

I'm 21 with kinky hair, and you definitely remind me of my mom. She's coloured South African, which is a term for biracial. But she was and still is there for me. Thankyou for being a great mom

[@ShellynW-nd6ff]

Wool, Cotton, Linen, Silk

[@nathalieaveluo]

I’m not one to tell adults what to do but at this point, do both your daughters a favor a loc their hair so that way it’s easier in all three of y’all 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@hmmm2564]

No offense but you should have prepared for this before having kids with your African husband. It shows that you weren't aware/played about colorism and mixed privilege.

[@hmmm2564]

​@@nathalieaveluono she should learn

[@nicolesherman8974]

I personally feel fetishizing hair can be just as dangerous as the facial features/phenotype of an individual.

[@TheLovesnowangel]

It is. That’s where the “good hair” thing came from. People have been fetishizing straight to loose curly hair FOREVER

[@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068]

@@TheLovesnowangel Not "people" BLACK people been fetishizing type 1-3

[@mewmew6158]

@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 not just black people tbh, all this bs comes from white supremacy being shoved down everyone's throat to this day post colonialism. Look at how non black people talk about mixed kids for example.

[@jennalud4748]

It is, it's called texturism...these are big in the black community...colorism, featurism, and texturism!

[@tenacioustrees.8737]

@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 Come on😑 it’s not just black people, you’re acting as though white supremacy was never a thing

[@10Vernonplace]

Tia's ad is ridiculous! Her hair looks like Italian or Jewish people's hair. It doesn't represent black hair. It is an outlier. Thank you for keeping us tethered to reality.

[@MamacitaNatural]

Tia has always been one of my favs but I have to admit that she fumbled this one… like seriously bffr 🫠

[@dajiyahmcae1880]

@@MamacitaNatural have you ever seen Family reunion? She been towing this line.

[@thehoneyeffect]

It’s as if Tia has a white mother (she doesn’t) she sounds clueless when it comes to Blackness. Mixed Race identity is allowed, let the one drop rule die, tia can represent mixed race people but not Black women

[@JulianSteve]

@@MamacitaNatural For real… I did not expect this from her. Maybe her twin sister, but not her🫠…

[@numerologicatarot3333]

I sometimes say “you point me to an outlier and I will point you out a lie or a liar”.🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@charlirogers6235]

It took me 5 years into my natural hair journey to realize I was "failing" because I couldn't successful achieve natural hair goals...because those goals, those standards, were to make my hair look like biracial hair. Twist outs, bantu know outs, braidouts, blow-outs followed by rod curling sets...were all to achieve the soft loose spiral curls of biracial hair. "Shrinkage" is just another word for reverting back to its actual texture. If I'm really truly trying to be natural...then why am I stretching, twisting, blow-drying, gel-ing my hair into the same dang loose fluffy curls of biracial women. When I do an actual wash and go, and my hair looks like its meant to look (tight thick non moving tiny spiral curls) nobody says a word. But let me spend half an afternoon giving myself a blowout, then bantu knots, then carefully taking the knots out and loosely separating the curls so they are loose and fluffy, let me go into work then...and have EVERYBODY tell me how beautiful my hair looks, how fabulous I look, you go queen. How is spending an entire freaking day (wash day) manipulating my hair any different then getting a perm? The goal is still not natural. Check it, if I blow out my hair into an afro, I feel amazing. But if I add some curls into that afro everybody is in my face complimenting me. Now, what's the diff between an afro and an afro with loose curls in it? One is a black woman's afro and one is a biracial woman's afro.

[@TwiFiveGirls101]

100% You just made me think. I've NEVER gotten a compliment on my hair in its natural shrunken state even if its patted nice and "neat". I only get praise for making my hair not look like my natural state.

[@DearJayla]

This comment. This entire concept in itself. Is so unrealized. Wow. I’m now looking at all natural hair influencers differently. Thank you for sharing this.

[@marie-francoiset9402]

I'm assuming you're speaking of men, (bm?) complimenting you? I know plenty of men who absolutely adore my friends large but tightly coiled afro. But it usually isn't bm.

[@sherrygiles8157]

Sis, you said a word cuz every. Single. Time I get twist my end goal is for my hair to look like those biracial girls from tv. And I’ve been “natural” for years but wouldn’t step foot outside with it out unless it had some kinda “twistout” look. Wow…just wow.🫤

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

exactly

[@theorderofthebees7308]

I really appreciate Issa Rae , on Insecure she consistently found different unique ways to wear her natural hair it was stylish and fantastic . ❤️❤️ that was ground breaking to me .

[@jp6846]

wholeheartedly agree!

[@phdgirl2016]

The "let me be your representation" in the caption got me. Girl, you've BEEN the representation - and that is the problem.

[@moniqueloomis9772]

🏆

[@marie-francoiset9402]

no she hasn't. she was forced to straighten her hair. you don't have to agree with her. fine. but you don't know her experience eihter.

[@SleepMeditationandAffirmations]

Biracials can be really clueless most of the time.

[@inactiveaccount6106]

​@@marie-francoiset9402 Um, as an avid Sister Sister watcher, I know that they have worn then hair curly for exactly half of the show (seasons 1-3 out of 6 total.) Many girls actually wanted to have curly hair like theirs back then. They didn't start straightening their hair until season 4, episode 1, when they had JUST turned 18. Stop the cap. They obviously made a choice for themselves when they were finally able to, or it would have been done when they were children, like it was done to many of us with relaxers. It may have been peer pressure on someone's part, but they were not "FORCED" to do anything. Easily convinced? Definitely. Their hair was the standard though. However, that was the height of Sister Sister popularity & other cultures & races of people started watching the show by then, so that was the most probable factor in the change. Regardless, they were at their height of popularity by then & could have easily moved on to newer auditions. There was no Sister Sister without them. Am I saying an 18 y/o can make sound decisions? Absolutely not!... But their "forced to" & our "forced to" as blackER people is completely different. I didn't have a choice at 9. They did at 18.

[@MayMay-el4wg]

@@inactiveaccount6106 ….great to be able to sidestep the reality of THEIR contractual obligations! However, they were the first to wear their curly hair and as they gained in popularity they had to wear their hair straighter to appeal to the mass audience. It’s a numbers game, if you didn’t know that. Most film and print prefer straight hair. Even white and Latinas with heavy wavy and curly hair eventually straighten their hair. WS standards impacts everyone!

[@louisianacookingwithkay]

12:16-12:28 That's why I love Lupita. She came out with her kinky hair, and she rocked it for years and years. ✊🏾💪🏾✊🏾💐

[@youjustgotburned3980]

Now if only they'd stop making real black girls look quirky and weird with those creepy outfits and hairstyles Dark skinned girls can be JUST as beautiful as Beyonce. They don't all have to look like aliens that just visited from an African planet (not country)

[@Juicetv22]

But lupita is African... white people have no problem with Africans they hate black Americans

[@dianecalderon1700]

As a mixed person, I think it’s very strange to only claim one of your races.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

@LoveJones well that's what happens when you're mixed, you're literally a result of two races mixing, you're not supposed to "fit" in

[@dianecalderon1700]

I completely understand that, but I also love my white grandma. I’m sure the girl in the video does too it’s weird not to claim her.

[@Neo.Jordon]

It's all about social power, the same people would be saying they're "white" back in Alabama 1822. They're "black" because it's cool now....in reality they're both, and desperately seek to have social power.

[@azchanna]

Biracial only claim black when it's cool or there is a financial incentive to do so point in case tia mowry

[@mariejae]

Maybe her white side bullied her? We don't know Tia's experience. My Black family has always been most comforting and kind to me, while my Mexican side is kind of toxic, the other kids made fun of my hair and called me a clown. That does happen to mixed people in blended families quite often. I identify more as Black than Hispanic. Most people don't know what I am though, but it honestly doesn't matter to me what anyone thinks. Just because we are not full black does not mean we have more privileges. I feel the creator is speaking a lot of ignorance and needs to speak with more mixed kids and women before speaking of our experience.

[@reneesaneptune]

This reminds me of seeing creators with literal 4A/B hair having tutorials titled "Styling my 4C hair". It's so infuriating because I rarely ever see true 4C hair.

[@k.enn17]

exactly because it also is a problem for people who have mixed hair textures like I do. I dislike how people lie on their hair textures, it's hard to style your hair CORRECTLY when you can't find the CORRECT representation for it. I'm fully black, but lightskin and I love to advocate for those who were also born with two black parents, but are also darker than me because I have all shades of black in my family. I have seen every hair texture and I will not ever discredit another black person's experience.

[@chilotamokafor7844]

Frrrrr I never know which products to use

[@k.enn17]

@@chilotamokafor7844 And i feel like it’s horrible for ppl to not know their true hair textures. Cause my hair is mixed textures 3c-4b and even i had a hard time finding ways to style my hair. for some reason 4c isn’t 4c anymore. and i hate that the representation for that hair type is incorrect.

[@mewmew6158]

It makes more sense to say wavy, curly, and coily rather than black hair. Black people have various types of hair and coily hair is typically left out of the representation. Texturism and colorism go hand in hand because both are tools of white supremacy. It's so frustrating that people are still trying to brush shit under the rug. Biracial people shouldn't be the main representation of black people. I'm biracial and I wholeheartedly agree.

[@-_Somebody_]

You know how sanitary napkins are ranked from light - heavy on the labels? I would love it if all these hair products rebranded their labels to be on a 1a-4c on a scale too. That way no one is left out. All blacks don’t have 4c, some have 2a yet there are even some white people who have puffy 3a hair anyway and everybody in between. I agree that mixed folks should stop trying to be the face of black folks especially when it comes to hair. They don’t have to do anything to make it look “good” for society unlike homogenous blacks.

[@MercyPeaceLove]

@shikabane🐉hime I agree

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

That's why i feel like the natural hair movement should have just been limited to 4 type hair. That way there would be no room for texturism. Girls with 4 type hair are the ones who need uplifting, other hair types already had it. So now they get to just reinforce their hair superiority once again

[@EggyMurphy]

@@ASprinkleofAnime that reminds me of what happened with the body positivity movement. it started with fat people ans they brought in people from the other side of the spectrum, recognizing that there was still some messaging making them feel lesser than. and then magically, people with more widely accepted body types became the face of the movement, so it just began reinforcing all the old fatphobia

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

@EggyMurphy good point! The ironic part about that is that thin figures are still the universal standard. It only became a body positivity issue because some thin women were jealous of the attention women with curves now get. At the end of the day they dont face discrimination like plus sized women. Not dismissing it, but it's not the same.

[@Justincasewedont]

I am east african and strongly agree with the sentiment that typically tightly coiled hair is all too often left out of the chat when it comes to "black hair". However black hair comes in all different shapes and sizes. I am dark skinned with hair like typical mixed race girls. so where do we draw the line? My hair is looser curled however i am most defiantly black. I think we should refer to the TEXTURE rather than saying BLACK. We should be in control of the language we use so that when they reach the masses the message is not misunderstood.

[@Jordè1222]

Same girl! I am North African. Dark skin with 2C hair. I never know where I fit into the natural hair and world. I stopped pressing my hair and doing chemical straightening so I am completely natural but I never had “bad hair” and my hair was always praised by other brown people. I love all brown people hair, especially kinky hair that is locked and I believe we were all born with the hair that suits our features best ❤️

[@oihcam22]

@@Jordè1222if that’s you in the profile picture you are definitely not dark skinned

[@blessgodess5146]

Hello all my goddess from all over the world. As someone who is a black American black looking with a 4crown ok Tia Mowry being then representation for black hair is interesting. So my own mother is not 4c, however it's not the best pr . I would love to see dark skinned black woman show all our ranges of hair. Like our goddess said we are used to seeing this type of hair on this type of phenotype . In the 90's it was the exception now its the standard. Ma'am your rubbing your hands together and gliding your fingers through with some type of product. I'm a black woman and that ain't happen over here at 4crown Town!!

[@suncoco6495]

@@Jordè1222 ​ but the issue is that 4C hair is rarely praised or accepted. It’s often mocked and excluded even in the movements that were originally meant to uplift it ( i.e., the natural hair movement) and hijacked by looser curl patterns. I’m also East African. This sentiment of praising looser curl patterns is seen throughout the African continent and is often associated with how far away it is from some “Black features”.

[@suncoco6495]

@gt345My thoughts exactly

[@nikkis.9747]

Even though I am a black woman with looser curls similar to hers, I was a bit thrown by her post when I first saw it because her hair does not represent black hair.....not at all. She cannot be the representation for black women's hair. Even as a black woman with both black parents, but loose curls, I would never claim to represent black hair because I know that my hair is the result of mixing further back in my ancestral line and doesn't accurately represent the majority of black women who have always been made to feel ashamed of their hair. 4c hair is real black hair period.

[@blessgodess5146]

Black hair Being a mixed type of texture is not always from the white master lineage. There are alot of Africans from East to West that imhavs seen have thus texture. It very well can be mixing in the blood line, how ever in my experience I find it interesting that even though I look black I have three three grandparents that are mixed race and I think I'm the only which is generalizing with 4c hair. I have a dark skinned grandfather who had this mixed hair. In conclusion mixed hair is black hair , however it's the representation that it's always on a light or mixed person!

[@nikkis.9747]

@BlessGodess I agree with most of this, but when I think of someone who represents black hair here in America, I think of afro-textured, type 4b/4c curls because that represents the majority of black women in America and represents those who have dealt with the most harsh discrimination and criticism of their hair.

[@angie101972]

Hair texture has nothing to do with having white ancestors. In Africa there are black ppl with straight curly hair. Some Ethiopians, Somalians and some East African tribes have straight or curly hair. Black doesn’t have one hair texture. Not even in my family. We all full black with hair textures from straight to kinky. Y’all not gonna talk bad about Tia 😂. She’s my favorite twin

[@justinethomas5020]

@@blessgodess5146 people are So uneducated and have probably never been outside the US. Your comment is priceless

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

@Robyn you are being dishonest. The amount of blacks born with natural blonde and red hair is a very small percentage so why would the minority represent the majority? Reality is is that most of us have kinky hair textures and that is ok because it's beautiful. Instead of us having self love and accepting our type 4 hair we are fighting to "all hair textures matter" the natural hair movement and that's problematic because it reinforces texturism

[@CiaoColeG]

As a biracial with 2c,3a hair Tia's ad made me cringe so bad. All my life, I've seen mixed women in media with hair like mine. I have NEVER once experienced negativity from anyone about my hair texture, even when I went to predominately white schools. Two weeks ago, I had an appointment with my white nurse practitioner, and she was lamenting that her hair used to be like mine before she had kids. Tia might've had some pressure to straighten her hair because that was the look in the late 90s/early 2000s, but society never hated hair like hers.

[@TeKeyaKrystal]

!! HELLO . Lord have mercy , I hope somebody talked some sense into Tia Mowry's head b/c what ?! I'm only now seeing this a year later.. if that had showed up on my explore page , she may have blocked me

[@vodkavuitton]

@@TeKeyaKrystallmao

[@TheLovesnowangel]

Love Tia but she is NOT a black woman. Her whole daddy is a white man and they actually look just like him. She has the “acceptable” hair texture and it is not “black hair” because one you have to be black and two she has type 2 to 3 hair. I hate how people keep calling her the “black twin” and I hate how biracial people are being used to represent black people but we know damn well black people could never represent mixed people. Everybody wanna be black until it’s time to be black.

[@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068]

Black people are also at faults for this

[@salorchi84]

Per Tia's ancestry test she is actually 60% white.

[@Maki-00]

My mixed (black and white) cousin married a white man and her daughter has blue eyes and blond hair. My younger cousin is a white girl with a black grandfather! We need to stop pretending that anyone who has black ancestry is black. Edit - I surely can’t claim to be white because I had a white great-grandfather!

[@biancasowesscoast6465]

@@salorchi84 wow! Not surprised tho… she is her daddy

[@jennalud4748]

When her hair is dry, it is 3b-3c..so her hair is clearly mixed hair but she shouldn't be representing black hair! Only 4a-b-c!

[@traillmark361]

I agree with you totally! It's an insult to our hair! If you see her head from the back, you wouldn't know she has black in her. Her hair is literally represented EVERYWHERE.

[@blessgodess5146]

" from the back" that was mos Def no cap!!-

[@cakebops]

Reminds me of how every Netflix shows “black girl representation” Is usually a mixed woman with a much looser texture and more than likely on the lighter end of the spectrum. Fear street really pissed me of with that one bc w/ the brother being dark skinned & kinkier hair they had EVERY REASON to also cast a lead female with the same traits.

[@cakebops]

@@blessgodess5146 i had to start laughing when she did that like she cannot bc serious

[@stoneyhighhigh3677]

My aunt is a dark skin fully black woman with tia exact hair type ........but I guess she isn't black since according to y'all in the comments black folks don't have hair like this

[@marie-francoiset9402]

@@stoneyhighhigh3677 the tunnel vision in this thread is astounding. if Tia denied her blackness they would *still* be up in arms. ridic

[@Michele-yp4uy]

Getting on social media and complaining about this isn't enough. BW collectively are going to have to stop supporting people like her. Let biracials and other non black people support her. I understand the anger and frustration but until black people do a better job of gatekeeping blackness and black culture, biracial women like her will continue to take up space in the black community that they are not entitled to. If you don't like it then don't support it!!

[@ChristinaSDixon-cx7cs]

"Blackness is not only in relativity to how white people see us, Blackness is also how WE SEE EACH OTHER." Period, Dot, end of story, say it louder for the pews in the back!!!!!!!!!!!! .....So true and yet such a key point that WE often mis; Thank you for this!!! I just stumbled upon your channel and now officially subscribed.

[@virtualinlife1996]

You are 100% correct. Biracial and Black people are not the same. Black is having two black parents. Biracial is having two parents of separate races (examples: black/white American mom and dad, Chinese/Arabic mom and dad, Native Indigenous Lakota /Peruvian mom and dad). I placed examples for those who are truly ignorant of the differences..

[@zurifrommissouri]

I don't think this applies universally because experiences vary in everyone's environments. Tía makes the effort to hold on to her black roots and black identity; I accept it. Her ad, no. When we're talking about black hair in general, her hair doesn't resemble mine and her ad failed to capture my attention. But she can definitely be that representation for her children who are unmistakingly black, and I'm sure she encourages them to feel pride in that.

[@blackwomenpowerbyalainaray4047]

@@zurifrommissouri No, she can't because at the end of the day. She's biracial the only way you can be black and that's it. Is when you have two black parents. It is what it is also, why can't biracial people use this same logic on their non black side?.

[@bunchielove6893]

@@blackwomenpowerbyalainaray4047 because Whyte people won't let them but for some reason people have a problem when we do the same.

[@bunchielove6893]

@@zurifrommissouri So can a Whyte women birth a black child?

[@DorothyDandridge]

But genetics is complicated and not all biracial people (eg Black/white) look the same. They can vary in skin tone, facial features and hair texture

[@Maki-00]

Funny, I had insomnia last night and I was thinking of random crap as I tried to fall asleep. I was thinking about how in movies and TV shows, black male characters are almost always played by black men and boys, but “black” female characters are usually played by biracial/mixed women and girls. We’re just supposed to pretend like Cliff and Clair Huxtable could produce children who looked like Denise and Sandra! Imagine a show with a white family and one of the kids was played by someone half black and everyone was just supposed to pretend like they didn’t notice! On a side note, I remember looking at teen magazines in the 90s and one of my favorite magazines had a “black beauty” section one month, but all the girls in it were mixed race. 🙄

[@citizencoy4393]

Just talking to my husband about this tonight. I’ve never seen 5 commercials in a row and each had black ppl in it! Last night was the first time BUT!!!!….. 4 of the commercials were blk men with non blk women and the last was an African woman with a yt man! The promotion is strong out here! Why is it a crime to see a dark husband who has a wife that is the same or darker complexion?

[@Fudgeey]

You're absolutely right, and not to take away from your point, but my parents are full Black, but my sister is about Sondra's complexion, while the rest of us are Aunt Viv #1's complexion. It happens sometimes, but still, your point is accurate.

[@blessedone6516]

@@citizencoy4393 it's a deliberate tool by WS.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

And not only are bm characters only played by BM they ALWAYS happen to be darkskinned or at least darker than the female "black character" I've seen so many sitcoms where the spouse is this lightskinned mixed woman and the husband is black and darkskinned. The only show I've seen where they used a darkskinned black woman as the wife and a lightskinned husband was thats so raven. Writing this also makes me think of this Disney channel show named "Kc undercover" wherein zendaya is the main character and the character who plays her mom in the show is a lightskinned mixed woman while the man who plays her dad is à darkskinned black man, oh and *suprise* the only boy in the family happens to be black and darkskinned too🥴 AND THEN ( oh wow as I'm writing I'm just remembering more and more BS ) the only darkskinned black girl on the show is a ROBOT and has no emotions and is extremely sassy/mean......

[@NA-pr3mp]

Its not unrealistic that Cliff and Clair can produce a sondra or denise. We carry the dna of our ancestors and those genes can show up whenever so even if its recessive in you it may show up in your offspring.

[@genevaxo]

Whoever in their right mind thinks that if someone has 2 races/ethnicities especially when it's people of African & European ancestries, is just "black" needs intervention. You see people claiming biracials in the media that are as little as 25% like their life depends on it.

[@FitBabe]

Tamera Mowry even said on an episode of The Real that her kids are black because she is black. I just rolled my eyes. This was during a conversation where they were defending Paris Jackson’s blackness against Joselyn Hernandez who was calling Paris a white girl. Chile….

[@-_Somebody_]

@@FitBabe and Meaghan Markle. I love her, but the British press makes it seem like she is homogeneously Black, clearly she is mixed but blends in with white people.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

@@-_Somebody_ the way Normally mixed people in the UK are seen as as just that MIXED, but they are trying to make it seem like Meghan is black

[@-_Somebody_]

@@tsuyuasui7297 yes, agreed. we are saying the same thing.

[@soullooker]

We’re black to every ethnicity except black.

[@AntoinetteMPetty]

Quote "Black Hair is hair that can't be any other texture." This is the realist statement on Black hair I've ever heard, and it's the truth. Thank you ❤🍸💐🫶🏾🪞

[@Marz859]

I’m so glad this video was made I’m light skin with 4c hair. My dark skin mother instead of instilling confidence in me about my hair had always chosen to let me know she thinks it looks a hot mess. She permed my hair and never let me wear it natural as a kid. It HAD to be straightened. Even this morning I had my hair in a fro and she asked if I was going to work like that. I told her I was and her jaw dropped 😮 as if it’s some atrocity to walk around with type 4 hair without styling and straightening it.

[@cassiecorcoran3851]

I can relate. I'm light skinned with 4 type hair too and the way I was programmed as a kid to have it straightened was ridiculous. I've been natural since 2007 and now I wish somebody would say something disrespectful about my kinks! I wear my hair proudly now and I don't feel pressure to twist it so it can have definition because the world needs to make space for our hair type the way it has for everyone else's. We exist too

[@jaidadeclouette1989]

I’m so glad you are standing up to your mom! Go you! I’ve had insecurities about my type 4 hair by being bullied in grade school, but I’ve been natural for years too. Be proud of your hair!!!

[@freedomofspeech2420]

My husband asked me if I comb my hair then proceeded to pull it. I’ve had issues since then. This was after I took my locs out, my hair was long but it’s like he thought it would be a looser texture. My hair is not loose. I’ve never spoken to him about how much it affected my confidence to wear my hair. It did.

[@Anonymous33326]

I can relate to that my nan done the same thing I didn't care because everyone else liked my hair out

[@tayo0404]

My father is Nigerian and my mother is German, I inherited my father's hair texture my mother kept relaxing my hair to the point I was just losing hair.

[@UdochiOkeke]

She shoulda put her mom, grandmother and great grandmother's pictures in that add if she wanted to be taken seriously. That Tia Mowry ad was offensive.

[@justinethomas5020]

Alot of people take her serious.. I have 3B hair and I consider my hair as black hair since there are variations not just one type. And none of yall can change anything about that

[@marilynmonheaux]

@@justinethomas5020 and you should sister. If you are pro black you should stand with it in all shades and textures.

[@caseya7044]

The thing is that "black hair" has a context to it. "Let black hair be black hair" holds a meaning to it-and that meaning is attached to afro/kinky coiled hair. Tia's hair *wouldn't be considered "black hair" not because she's not black, but because it's really loose. It's the least discriminated against for the curly/kinky hair types. She faces advantages for having her hair be a loose texture like that while being black. She's considered "better" than the next person who had a tighter pattern. Meanwhile people with a texture/style like Mayowa or Lupita N'yongo get told off ten thousand ways just because of the texture. Afros are ugly, "too much," dirty, unmanageable, unprofessional, need to constantly be done, dry, etc etc etc. Everybody and their great grandmas come out the woodwork to say something about black hair. Tia knew what she was doing by using that specific loaded phrase of "let black hair be black hair" as a lightskin biracial woman with loose curls and referring to herself. Like that wasn't an accident. This isn't about not being able to claim your blackness. It's about using terms and phrases incorrectly that ends up blurring what it's supposed to actually be, especially as the person that benefits from the other side of the oppression being talked about.

[@j.rising7286]

Tia is not Black, Tia’s hair texture is not Black hair. It’s not even kinky-curly. It’s curly-straight, aka NOT BLACK. Stop trying to still include but exclude Biracials.

[@caseya7044]

@@j.rising7286My mistake: that would was supposed to be *wouldn't I'll clarify that I mean that she's still considered to be black even as a biracial. I'm using that as an example of what a lot of people keep focusing on. The definition of blackness instead of the fact that she doesn't fit it

[@tsuyuasui7297]

@@j.rising7286 the way there are black people with her hair texture, however she still ain't black.

[@LethalLemonLime]

This! And the curly haired "black" folks in the comments are trying to argue like this isn't the case and hasn't been the case for centuries

[@LethalLemonLime]

I think Tia and Tamera fit the sociological sense of the word black pretty closely except for her hair. Growing up as a little kid in America whose fully Nigerian father was lighter than Tia and Tamara, I always saw them as black when watching sister sister. I probably just assumed they had a texturizer lol I don't think I realized that was their natural hair. My grandfather on my dad's side was Nigerian and was pretty much white passing and his kids (uncles/aunts)were very light skinned but with black features (my grandma was a dark skinned Nigerian woman and so is my mom). So I personally see my father as a black Nigerian man with light skin so maybe that skews my view. But I personally think my dad fits black phenotypes except for his skin color. He also has type 4 hair. Like 4a. I'm saying this because I personally do consider Tia and Tamera too be black although their hair does not represent black hair because it is not the sociological phenotype of black hair (which would be type 4 hair).

[@coreenamusic]

I feel like BW let this happen (generally speaking) we are not protective of our image. Steady chasing after women that have proximity to whiteness to represent our image. It’s disturbing. And if I call it out (as an unambiguous BW) I’m, jealous, angry, divisive and mad. I feel like I live in the twilight zone sometimes.

[@satindoll7300]

Same

[@marie-francoiset9402]

well if you're all of a sudden mad that Tia identifies as black (as she always has) then yea that smacks of jealousy, insecurity etc etc. When ppl react out of emotion not from facts then it's.... emotional.

[@chavaliernsharps159]

Yes unambiguous Black! 2 unambiguous Black parents! And I do hate how we as a general collective are so drawn to having biracial and or multiracial women represent us, due to our own erasure and disregard by others first. I hated how we in general claimed Megan Markle, when she herself has mentioned she does not live or move as a Black woman, and only was referred to as such when she married a red headed Brit, and was othered by a dynasty that profited from oppression. Please.

[@carolkhisa1564]

​@@marie-francoiset9402 she doesn't suddenly feel mad, every unambiguous BW sees the same, we get gaslighted for calling it out like you are doing

[@uwu-fm2kj]

For what it’s worth I as a biracial ambiguous woman do not think unamibigiously black women are acting sour for not enjoying this image replacement. Be vocal about it- the right people will support you.

[@HealthyBrownGirls]

What kills me is the ones with two black parents with similar texture as Tia's who gaslight and say " I'm black and my hair is just like hers". All the while you probably heard the "good hair" comment your whole life...which should make you more aware that you're hair is NOT the standard for black people. Genetics are unpredictable...you can be black and have traits that are altered by your 4th great grandfather 👴.

[@loveheals6184]

Which was in all likelihood r*p*d into the bloodline. By NO means should we shame one another our ourselves if we have phenotypes as a result of such brutality, but neither should we praise it. Ditto, if it's from consensual, loving relationships. To your point, I'm also not a fan of denigrating the most naturally occurring characteristics of our race, particularly in exchange for extolling what's natural to others in theirs.

[@LethalLemonLime]

Yes, so many people in the comments are saying this bs rn. it's sickening. and not in the good way lol

[@aprilchow-chee5281]

There are black people who have no mixed or white lineage with "good hair" but you out here criticizing people when you aren't even educated or aware because you choose to be

[@DorothyZbornak4]

@@aprilchow-chee5281 you just proved the point the original poster stated. An exception is not the rule.

[@mellimel1174]

Yes. We can have many different textures or patterns. But those with looser patterns know the deal and shouldn’t front. For those like me who are mixed but with tightly coiled hair, we often get told “ you aren’t supposed to have that hair”. Like anyone is not supposed to look how they were made.

[@user-hn6xg2hd5o]

I identify as a biracial black woman. I had to face my privilege of being light skinned and biracial. It’s something I’m still facing and innerstanding everyday. Thank you for sharing this. Everything you stated was absolutely valid! “Mulato” or mixed babies born into slavery were still slaves. Even then, there was a privilege of being a “house slave” or being palatable for yt folk. I hate being the token or “acceptable” version of black for people. I never realized the extent in media, however. Thank you for highlighting that!

[@marie-francoiset9402]

that's made up. We don't know enough about slavery to know if being in the house meant you were favored. More likely what skills a slave had made your position higher or lower. Not the complexion. We really do need to have more realistic slave movies (yes the ones everyone keeps saying that they don't want to see). Because the young generation refuses to READ. *ALL* AAs are mixed. it's something that AAs have a hard time accepting due to it being from rape from slavery. Don't just accept what someone in a comment section says. Including me. Go read and investigate for yourself. .

[@tangiechapman6219]

Good for you

[@Options23]

@@marie-francoiset9402 , ALL AA are not mixed. We come in many shades, said, The Lord. IN fact, the HOLYSPIRIT said all people have some AFRICAN Blood because we were FIRST, the ORIGINAL GENE and all people come from us.

[@biegebythesea6775]

yeh same. I wonder your age. I identify as black mixed but I know it's considered a strange term. I'm over 40 in the UK and my generation of mixed black people has always identified as black. Through this kind of education I now add 'mixed' but I can't let the black label go.

[@marie-francoiset9402]

@@Options23 very very few AAs aren't mixed. There are zero 100% black African AAs. Even the darkest of AAs are mixed. Slavery was 400+ years. It is what it is. if you're AA check your dna test. go to a reputable one. no need to take my word for it. enjoy!

[@Theeglowgetter34]

I love that you brought this is up ! People are so intellectually dishonest when having this conversation especially with regards to biracial people it’s like they want them to be considered fully black sooo bad 🤦🏾‍♀️ when it’s very simple they are half of one and thing and half of another so they are different and that’s okay !!! The other race or add mixture never seems to have an issue doing this distinguishing. Black people swear they want break down all these systems but yet seem to feel like we still have to follow the 1 drop rule….

[@quickpstuts412]

Right! Just from listening to many biracial speak, they often talk about not fitting in so they feel a need to choose. Tia clearly chose the "black side." But like you said, you can embrace both.

[@MsMisscarson]

Thank you for this. I used to get so mad when a mixed girl would say “ this is all my real “natural” hair “ because nappy hair grows differently and a lot of us can’t just put water on our hair. When I went to white school the white kids would use the “mixed” kids as their “black” friend, while still not accepting the fully black ppl.

[@adamblack6867]

Mad = jealous

[@charlesbiel2082]

Exactly! white society uses the mixed people as a buffer zone to not directly interact with monoracial black people.

[@autumnhomer9786]

🎀Real 4c hair doesn’t get enough representation. Not even mixed race people with 4c hair are featured that much in the media. 🎀 🎀Being able to see yourself in others is so important for one’s self esteem and acknowledgment that you are a respected valued members of society.🎀🎈

[@barbararichardson2747]

Funny that inspite of all other issues hair textures take priority!Guess that explains the state we're in😢!

[@shakesqueeeeeeer]

​@@barbararichardson2747sad that in these times people are still being discriminated because of hair and it is such an important topic! 😢 We should talk about it so it gets to be not such a big issue! (P.S we can focus on more than one issue at a time 🙄)

[@Free2bJubilee]

Mayowa keeping her foot firmly planted on they necks. lolls

[@zaubia3677]

I just spent two months in Perú. I met a girl that works in marketing. Her firm helped launch a hair care line aimed for Peruvian hair. Well, fast forward to now and in the attempts to be more “inclusive,” the marketing firm decided to represent other ethnicities and you can guess who they thought would be a great representation…a biracial with big voluminous curly hair. No matter where I go, this seems to be the standard all around. Also, I am surprised at Tia’s advertisement. She really tried it.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

Are they racist in peru¿

[@zaubia3677]

@@tsuyuasui7297 I did not experience any blatant racism nor did I peep if I was being treated differently. Side note: I had my natural hair out, mostly blown out and big. So with that I stood out a lot aside from being one of the few black tourist there. The staff at the apartment where I stayed were kind and respectful. While I was there I hung out around one Afro-Peruvian and one Afro-Venezuelan. One dark skin and the other fair, but not light skin, light skin, ya know. Both have experienced blatant racism-the same as I have here. They have seen anti-black graffiti as I have seen here in the U.S. Each have their stories. I also witnessed each be shown much love and admiration from white Peruvians. You get where I’m going with this. I never felt like I wasn’t welcomed. I did feel out of place but only because there were not many black people walking around with an Afro 🤷🏾‍♀️, sooo the looks were to be expected. Now the energy behind those looks I can’t say if they were negative or positive and nor did I care. My experience there was amazing af and I still have so much to see, so I’ll be returning in the future 😊.

[@misstiana77]

Yes there is already the line called mixed chicks, pattern beauty, deva curl represents loser curls, likeeeeee lol so many

[@Cahluvca]

It's a time machine in alot of South American countries...not much afro/black representation in media

[@godsgirl7201]

I seen a video were a white lady said she only dates black so she can keep her generation going because the ozone layer will eventually kill white skin🥴🥴

[@valenciaing.4316]

I agree. There is a distinction between being black and biracial which shouldn’t give the latter advantage to conflate the two. There’s beauty in both, but not in destroying the identity of the other to promote white features.

[@MakaykayLAMB]

So my father is hairstylist and has been for 30+ years. (He also teaches) and he was trained in white hair. Anywho, when people with curly hair talk about their struggles, their discussing how their curly hair took away their proximity to whiteness and how they had to assimilate to the beauty standard. Which is what we as black people have to go through but it’s COUPLED with featurism, texturism, etc. And for some reason it’s really hard for people who are lighter or have proximity to whiteness to understand what WE go thru as unambiguously black women.

[@mewmew6158]

People with privilege have a hard time seeing that they aren't the most harmed. It's genuinely so odd as all these people have to do is work through their trauma from childhood and then look around at people with more intersecting identities.

[@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL]

Light skin black women are unambiguous Balck women… I think society has gaslighted us into associating anything that isn’t dark with whiteness. We need to just throw whiteness in the trash can as a reference point and recognize the truth of our diversity as fully Black people

[@marie-francoiset9402]

@@mewmew6158 you say that so casually. so shouldn't everyone work through their trauma? including the bw with 4C hair? They suffered trauma from the families. But instead of working through it they want to say only their hair texture is *real* black hair. No. That's not true at all.

[@mewmew6158]

@@marie-francoiset9402 Everyone should work through their trauma, yes. However, saying that black women with coily hair only have trauma from their family is wrong. It's also wrong to insinuate that it's totally fine for biracial women with curly hair to make their hair out to be thee example of black hair, because there's a range. Coils are most common for people that are unambiguously black, so if one texture deserves the black hair title it's coils, not curls.

[@marie-francoiset9402]

@@mewmew6158 well that's your opinion of course. You are are free to not buy her products. However, black hair comes in all textures. And not always the result of someone being biracial or mixed. It's true. textured hair (i prefer that term over the coily vs curly debate) trauma doesn't only come from family. it can come from a job. apparently Tia was made to feel ashamed of her hair by studio execs and forced to straighten it. It was only *this* year that the union passed the rule that hairstylists trained in textured natural hair *have* to be hired by the studios if there is a black principle. Prior to this black actresses were left to fend for themselves while everyone else got a hairstylist on set. And yea, thats been traumatic for many black actresses (and not all famous ones). However, the comments in this thread are not considering Tia's perspective at all. And are also attempting to gatekeep blackness by saying only dark skinned bw with 4C hair with two 100% black parents are black. That's ridiculous. Especially if you are AA. Also comments complaining about family members telling them they didn't have "good hair*. That's a family and an internal issue. If Tia is creating a hair product based on her brand, its foolish to think she's not going to use herself. There are dsbw everywhere in the media today. dsbw don't seem to see or support them. But they see one video by a black woman who is biracial and they get triggered. the whole hair type classification thing was made up by Oprah's hairdresser anyway. It's not real. all it has done is cause further dissension.

[@saxviars9749]

i'm crying, not her saying there wasn't enough representation when she is young when she literally WAS the representation... if she can recognize the current problems, how does she not realize that her representing "real" black hair is not going to change anything?

[@Fridaholic]

right! like, girl you WERE the media.

[@melanatedmulatta7319]

The producers of the show made them relax their hair when they got older and stopped looking cute. There is a lot of trauma from that experience that she probably feels like there was no representation for her and she had to straighten her hair in order to keep the network happy. On the other hand Jennifer freeman was allowed to keep her hair in its natural texture so I can understand where Tia is coming from. She just shouldn’t classify her hair or her race as black

[@stoneyhighhigh3677]

Exactly she had to be her own representation!!!! So explain who did she have that was mainstream in their time to have hair like that ....let's not forget they started getting treatments point is black hair comes in all textures

[@marie-francoiset9402]

regular bw don't understand the industry. it has been a fight for bw actress' to have proper hairstylists to do their hair. many either had to straighten their hair whether they wanted to or not. So, no Tia's natural hair *was not* the representation when she was coming up because she was forced to relax it. She's not comparing herself to bw with 4C hair. People just want to be angry at her instead of understanding where she's coming from. It's only now that the union has made it a requirement for a hairstylist who can do black be on set (if there is a black lead). It's been a long fight.

[@marie-francoiset9402]

@@melanatedmulatta7319 you're correct! bw don't understand Tia's perspective so they are projecting their anger onto her. But she can classify herself as black. She is black and white. And identifies with her black side. She has the option to do either or.

[@dajiyahmcae1880]

I knew I couldn’t trust her after I seen that “Family Reunion” episode where she and the show runners spent the entire episode shoving the mixed character down our throats as a “beautiful black women”. Y’all need to STOP. That crap hurt my heart.

[@ieshaweaver4013]

Yeah I noticed and I have followed her ALOT recently and associated with all white ppl

[@TeaWitcher]

What!!!!!!! Omg

[@_cup_of_tea]

What season and episode number was that?

[@dajiyahmcae1880]

@@TeaWitcher they put the girl in black face and a 4c wig and everything, it was soooooo offensive

[@beccas104]

your makeup is STUNNING as usual and i absolutely love the butterfly clips

[@reinventlove1866]

The colors and the butterflies are so cute

[@Maki-00]

I love the iridescent lipstick! I gotta learn how to do that!

[@axeslinger94]

A lot of celebrities are pure clout chasers and use controversy as a form of advertising, even though they know, as well as we know, how dishonest it is. Be real, she is largely beloved for the most part, but how many people would've cared to check out her brand without this dishonest post that was just unnecessary? Fame can be a great way to get ahead in life for many people these days seeing as how everything is more economically fragile than ever in recent living memory, but I feel sorry for people who need to pander to our anger to get clicks. It tells me they see themselves as irrelevant and that we should treat them accordingly.

[@mynameispeaches]

I know. I hate when people who clearly can’t relate try to act like they can relate. I remember when Tyra Banks had a colorism discussion on her talk show and tried to act like she would not have made it into a paper bag party. We can literally see her complexion. Just stop.

[@axeslinger94]

@@mynameispeaches Omg or that time she did that homeless experiment to see through the eyes of a poor person? YUCK! KEEP IT! haha

[@mynameispeaches]

@@axeslinger94 she did the fat suit as well to experience how obese people are treated. It wasn't giving what she wanted it to give.

[@cmg25]

Your channel is officially my favorite. I love how the caption and the facial expression is everything I need to know, lol. If keeping it real had an award show, you would sweep every time. It’s giving in a culture of taking.

[@theoneudontknow4606]

I used to have mixed Co-worker and I have 4 C hair. The things that I’ve heard people say to me vs her is interesting. They literally praise her hair and then someone literally asked me “what the heck happened to your hair”??😬

[@nancyfancy1956]

😩 Why? They are stupid as hell.

[@tumzaria5696]

I always get told my hair would look so beautiful and long if only I relaxed and it would mess me up

[@tinyking11]

I cringed reading this 😵‍💫😬 That’s so disrespectful

[@kdub2627]

Omg lol

[@SubliminalQueen368]

“I love your hair”vs “when are you getting your hair done”

[@musicaflowerchild5540]

Thank you so much for saying this. I'm a 64 year old Blackity-Black female who is now in menopause. My beautifully nappy hair is thinning. So I went online to get a nappy wig that looks like my natural kinky nappy hair. And all you can find under that classification is hair that resembles Tia Mowry's hair. I feel erased. And I thank you SO MUCH for bringing this out.

[@Luuve]

I absolutely love when you're done talking about your subject and describe your vibe and how pretty you look! 'I'm in my butterfly area!"

[@saxviars9749]

i'm so here for her buttlerfly era , these looks are so coooool

[@blackbutterfly3364]

Wow🤦🏾‍♀️Really,Tia?? She wants to be the one to represent black women's hair🤔 but, we've seen women like Tia in tv and film for years in what white America and Hollywood considers to be the preference for white audiences. It's always been: This is what they meant when they used the term "POC" and inclusivity in their hiring practices, particularly in the entertainment industry. It, for years, excluded the black woman phenotype. This has been going on for decades upon decades. So can we please stop gaslighting those who don't fit the preferred mould into thinking otherwise. Then there's the issue with black magazines that went the same route. Black movies of the 80-90's showcased, quote unquote "light skin biracial beauty" with hair that black men fawned over and wanted to run their fingers through, all while castigating black women whose hair texture didn't meet their standards. Music videos of black male entertainers slowly sprinkled in white women, and as time went on we started seeing more and more light to bright to what is now just the racially ambiguous; or to be frank; Kim Kardashian type. Black men have been at the forefront of helping to push all of this. White people started this, but black men have not only led the charge, but have influenced young black boys who now grow up with the attitude that light skin/racially ambiguous women are the definition of beauty. And as much as black men run their mouths in admonishing black women for wearing weaves, and wigs and not their natural hair(their so-called reason for not dating black women) At the end of the day, they don't want the all natural black woman. We are persecuted for not being their true desire; which is whiteness💯

[@ItsAshiqa]

I’m South African and I grew up watching a lot of American tv and movies (Sister Sister included), as a kid I honestly thought that all African Americans had 4A/4B and even 3 type hair because of what I saw represented on the screen. It wasn’t until I moved to the US about 5 years ago where I learnt that what I had come to believe my entire life was actually far from the reality, so when we talk about representation and how important it is this is one of the examples that stands out for me.

[@tias.6675]

This is actually reality. Most so called AA people really are not. Just as you've came here, many (or their parents/grandparents) have too and are lumped into our ethnic group.

[@BoHeaux]

It’s interesting. When I see biracial women talking about hair representation, I think they are comparing themselves to not being able to fit in with white people….because like you said, they definitely been on tv for years. I agree with you 100%. I saw a tiktok where a biracial woman mentioned how she used to seek her belonging with her white mom and family and couldn’t find it by comparing her skin color.

[@salambo6512]

You American? Cause in my country there is NO representation. Don't talk bs please you can't talk for every mixed people on the planet.

[@queenkenya2634]

U are dead wrong bc a white women couldn't understand my hair struggles nor could they understand how to do my hair we don't fit in with white ppl bc we aren't white we are black and ppl like u are the definition of why we can't identify with our blackness either bc u generalize us and act like all of out hair is the same when I probably have thicker less cute and curley hair then u

[@BoHeaux]

@@queenkenya2634 hey babes. Lol. It wasn’t me who said it, it was a fellow biracial. Ijs. 🤷🏾‍♀️ SHE said she was looking to identify with her WHITE family and would hold up her palm and try to match their skin color. In this case there is no generalization and we are speaking Tia and biracial women with hair like HER. If it doesn’t apply….😁 then let if fly right?

[@airie14]

As someone that’s biracial my experience isn’t trying to fit in with white people. It’s being raised by white people who talked down on my hair. I have an aunt who constantly says look at your hair or you look crazy still to this day when my hair is frizzy or out of control I have 3b hair, she constantly told my sister she was lucky because she has wavy hair. Growing up I did suffer with a lot of insecurities due to my hair because I grew up around so many people who made me feel I looked better with my hair straight. But then when you’re comparing it to women with more coarse hair you see it’s even worst discrimination the more I was around black people I realized they seen my hair differently then white people. Some mixed people are only a product of their environment and really have no clue. Our white family constantly reminds us how black we are so that’s how we view ourselves, but then fully black people look at us crazy like no you’re biracial not black which I understand because fully black women should be represented in positive ways. This is just some insight because I see it from both sides now , It’s just like skin tone as someone who is light skin I still receive racism but I see darker skin people treated worst more often.

[@melaninkind8783]

@@BoHeauxDo you remember her Tiktok name?

[@anacaona9654]

Thank you. I thought I was losin it when I saw Tia’s TikTok about Black hair.

[@so-cas4454]

Preach! I am a middle aged darker skinned black woman with “good (4b)hair” as I’ve been told since childhood. I have always been aware that my kinkier and coarser haired sisters have vastly different experiences than I and are perceived differently . Texturism is very real.

[@monifagilbert3613]

Oh my, her art portrayed on her face and hair is fire. Thank you for existing and expressing yourself in all your beauty 🙏

[@midi2732]

Loved this! I’m not black but I agree 100% with what you were saying, I haven’t seen black women like yourself in media that much and the ones that they do show are biracial, would love to see more like yourself represented out there! The only time they show a non biracial in media it has something to do with slavery I noticed, like in movies and that kind of stuff as if that’s the only time people are really black, kind of weird to me.

[@queenkenya2634]

I mean there are plenty of fully black women in media and don't refer to us as bi racial refer to us as black honey and refer to fully black girls as fully black do not call us bi racial that is mad disrespectful

[@DemiMariebaker]

@@queenkenya2634Girl accept reality. YOU ARE MIXED. One drop rule is GONE. Two different races made you, not just one black person. Ain’t nothing disrespectful about calling you what you are. Jesus love yourself. The gaslighting from biracials has got to stop, ya only fight this hard to claim blk cause whites don’t claim you.

[@queenkenya2634]

@DemiMariebaker u just sound ignorant and I have no intrest in arguing with you about it I'm black don't call me mixed end of discussion u want us to identify with our black side but then strip us of our black card makes no sense to me but ok have s good day ignorant bitch

[@DemiMariebaker]

@@queenkenya2634 I sound ignorant because I’m right and you’re mad. haha. guess what bookie? you still mixed at the end of the day. 😘😘😘 continue self hating and erasing half of yourself to feel better. i suggest therapy.

[@queenkenya2634]

@@DemiMariebaker I luv myself and u should be happy I ain't a white washed bitch but ig u feel happy not claiming a person that is apart of the same culture as u but I'm not mad ignorant ppl always think they right at the end of the day

[@blackwomenpowerbyalainaray4047]

Thank you so much for this video. Because at the end of the day. Biracial isn't black just because you are mixed with black doesn't mean you are black. In the same way just because you're mixed with white doesn't mean you are white. Biracial is biracial and it's okay to be biracial.

[@shawnni3014]

Exactly

[@ladybug3380]

They NEVER fight to be white

[@annalafayette838]

I'm sure just the other day, these people were campaigning for their own racial category?

[@marilynmonheaux]

You can define yourself as biracial. Barack Obama can call himself a black man. Being part black in America for all intents and purposes does mean that you are black because the people who designed the country designed it that way. Race has no genetic significance, only a social one. A bi or multi racial person can choose to align themselves and define themselves however they like. Being a member of one or more races doesn’t give you license to gate keep how other people define themselves.

[@toyadiinae9800]

Look, let's just be real, in America, if when you walk out your door, people see a "black" person, you are treated like a "black" person, you experience the overall "black" life and interactions, like another "black" person, and no one sees you as your other bloodline, then at least in America, you are a "black" person. Now, I'm not going to ignore the fact that in the black community you're really a bi- mixed- ambiguous- race person and you shouldn't be the top representation for black people in America, but I'm not going to all of a sudden tell you that you can't embrace your African roots and associated identity, just because the typical black person doesn't look like you or have hair and skin, like you do. I'm honestly commenting, because in America at least in the part that I'm from, black people, myself included, are typically not descendants of two, pure slave-trade African-descendant parents- in my bloodline is slave-trade African descent, but also long-lost Native American, some kind of South-of-border Latino, German, and Irish, at the very least, and I'm light-skinned with a big nose, full-lips, fairly large forehead, and fairly kinky and dry hair. But, when I walk outside, go past police, shop in the store, talk culture and heritage, in America, I'm not mixed- ambiguous- race, I'm black and there's nothing that I can do about it- not even moving will help, because I'll never be accepted as Native American, Latina, nor "white", not even "?" in another ethnicity group.

[@raeahthewriter8082]

“Sell your products and go” 😂😂😂 I died!!!! Yesssss sis!

[@Jadeeee2323]

Love the butterfly era🦋 the white butterflies really pop and look so cute. ur style and vibes are *chefs kiss*

[@JulianSteve]

Yes! Mayowa’s keeping it real! I like Tia and all, but this is not the right move. This is bad and setting us back on Black hair representation. Not everyone is going to agree with us, but you’re correct. We have to acknowledge the differences between biracial (mixed with Black) and Black people. This is why we’re in these situations and like you said. Interracial couples are becoming more and more common. There are statistics out there too, but some folks are afraid to admit it in the community🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@HJ-lq9qq]

Thank you Mayowa ❤️ As an East- Asian American woman in the United states, thank you for your wonderfully inciteful perspective on these cultural issues. I grow everyday with you, I hope I can be part of the solution. You are beautiful inside and out.

[@sarahgates6947]

Are we mad at Tia Mowry or are we disappointed by society and the blk community as a whole that allow the erasure of 4c hair.

[@Gabriel-nw6lb]

Love this butterfly era the makeup looks so good this whole look is insane 🦋

[@MsKismetNoRegrets]

I really admired how you wrapped up the content by speaking to the emotional manipulation at play by individuals who do not feel the brunt of colorism, featurism or texturism. Butterflies are one of my favorite insects and you look so cute ❤ 🦋

[@colleeneyre6588]

Love how the makeup looks like a butterfly too

[@Lexilens8625]

I understand this...being a biracial woman mixed with black and German. I get this and I'm glad you're being awareness everyone! You go girl

[@whatsonhermindblog123]

Honestly people get away with it because we with 4c hair, coily hair, tend to hide it away so people think they can overtake it. People get shook when you rock 4c hair - especially unmanipulated. I been rocking my afro puffs lately and I love it. I live in Brooklyn and j see a lot of people rocking their kinky hair. Its nice to see. I'm also a little torn how to describe my hair. I had someone get upset with me for calling my hair coarse. I get it...some of that language was weaponized against us...but what words should I use? By the way, your hair is giving here!!! The shine the thickness

[@LisePlansandJournals]

THIS.🎯🎯🎯

[@itsjessguys7005]

GIRL, you hit the nail on the head with this one. I love this discourse because I never seen biracials with thick kinky hair ( eg. Doja Cat ) bringing us a hair line and talking about how much she likes her coils. Unfortunately the texturism race is underway as we speak 🗣️.

[@dominiquewyatt6704]

Doja cat cut all her hair off

[@danabenson4125]

Doja said she hated her hair bc her mother never knew how to take care of it and it was hard to style it. Likely that would not have been a problem if she would have had her father's people in her life. He was a deadbeat. Not his family.

[@marilynmonheaux]

Great point. This is about why black society idolizes certain textures. Biracial people have type 4 hair also.

[@itsjessguys7005]

@@marilynmonheaux exactly. And I know people that have very fine loose texture that are fully black. Hair is more than a grade it’s personal

[@queenkenya2634]

u haven't seen me boo

[@tk3831]

Keep speaking out because if you don't your silence will make it easier to be forgotten. 4C hair should be more mainstream and honestly these corporations nowadays just dilute and make products toxic. I wouldn't trust them and would try to make my own concoction at home.

[@CiciWilson-kj5mu]

I LOVE your eye make up. Done well ,it's clearly a butterfly.

[@vkeighmanabe2952]

The way you talk about colourism and texturism is so inspiring. As a dark-skinned woman with 4C hair, it's so affirming being on your channel everytime... And I know it can't be easy because I know about the gaslighting and invalidation from personal experience

[@sashabell2390]

Tell me why I was literally just talking to my friend about this. And how there was a time when they only casted light skin some such as Amanda Sternberg and Yara Shahidi in movies literally meant for dark skin women

[@tsuyuasui7297]

Yess rue ( played by amandla steinberg) from the hungergames was supposed to be a darkskinned black girl ( going off the description of her character in the book) but in the movie she wasn't, for granted most of the cast wasn't accurate.

[@aye927]

This is so true

[@aye927]

True

[@knomesarecooliguess5928]

I agree with a lot of the things that you said in this video! But… As a mix raced person with 4a-4b hair I often feel left out of the conversation. Sure, I have a one parent that’s white, but just because you have mixed DNA doesn’t guarantee a certain hair type…. I think that is extremely important to have dark skin women with 4 type hair in the media, but I also recognize that trying to “defend” blackness can be dangerous too! At the end of the day though, I really enjoy your videos and hearing your stories and options on relevant topics!!!! So keep on sharing and making amazing content!❤❤ Note: I 100% recognize that a lot of multiracial children are taking opportunities away from darker skinned women with curly and cozily hair types, and this NEEDS to change!!!

[@justinethomas5020]

Wow the first part of your comment made so. Much sense. But then you messed it up by saying opportunity is being taken away from certain people. Opportunities can also be created if yall wanna sit around and wait for the white Man to give them to you.. Keep waiting. Mixed people are NOT the problem here

[@jtm881]

Well said! I definitely believe there should be better representation of darker black women and darker biracial women as well because not every biracial person looks the same. And as you said hair texture is not guaranteed, me and my family are West Africans and yet my mother and my grandparents had softer hair textures, not to mention my cousins that had black parents, literally have the loosest curls. Like you said we don't want to go down this route, where defending "blackness" now means getting rid of anyone that could identify with that heritage. But it is good to have these thought provoking discussions.

[@Lipstickforever84]

I somewhat agree with your statement. I do agree that her hair type today is considered the beauty standard. Instead of saying “black hair”, it would be appropriate to state “ethnic hair”. I’m Nigerian American with 4c hair, but there are many full black/African sisters out there that has the same curly texture like Tia. Hence, Eritrean/Ethiopian women. So, 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Munecamorena93]

Exactly sis! Best comment here❤❤

[@rushpeezi]

THANK YOU.. I JUST SAID THIS.. I AM FULLY BLACK WITH SIMILAR HAIR TEXTURE.. WTF ARE WE STILL TALKING BOUT HAIR

[@PinkShawty149]

Yup I’m light skin with 4c hair, braids have helped tremendously lol my dad is black, my mom is black/white, genetics man

[@moneybags999]

Hmmm I hate to stir the pot but isn't that curly texture that Eritreans/Ethiopians often have basically due to their Arab ancestry? I'm not so sure that they would be any different from the racially ambiguous women that Mayowa is talking about here. They don't represent "black hair" any more than someone like Tia does.

[@moneybags999]

@@rushpeezi I'm "fully black" as in both of my parents are black but I do have European ancestry that accounts for why I have a similar hair texture. I totally get what Mayowa is saying. Although I have 3c/4a hair, it is not what should be considered true black hair the way it is presented in the media. I've seen my hair texture on Jews, Arabs & Hispanics. It's like when there is a conversation about black representation in media & all the examples of "see, we ARE putting more black people out there!" are images of all racially ambiguous black people. Even hair care ads for black women are notorious for showing racially ambiguous black women. I remember ads like these in Essence & Ebony back in the day.

[@elizabethangel7947]

Your Bubu is nice. Honestly when I saw the representation part of her comment I was like girl how is your 2c hair that is falling supposed to represent my 4c hair that's defying gravity sit down.

[@yujuy.1329]

biracial is biracial is biracial is biracial. I can't do this with them. black is blk. I need pl to get this already.

[@khadijahlong7204]

This is so true. I grew up with my mom giving me perms because my hair was so thick and wild. I have 4c hair and I started wearing weaves and long braids and in 2016 I got tired of it. I decided to go natural and rocked my fro and loc’d my hair up because I got tired of feeling shame for having thick 4c hair. When I started seeing more black women rocking their natural hair it inspired me even more.

[@calpag]

I have been watching your show and enjoy what you say immensely. Keep up the good work. You make me proud to be black. You are a very beautiful black woman.

[@BRIXXANY1]

I immediately thought to myself that you were in your butterfly era lol then you confirmed it at the end lol I love the makeup looks and the butterfly clips lol

[@shreehill9641]

We gotta stop letting biracial mean Black

[@tabbym.7485]

Look at all the Black folks trying to make Megan Markle black. She doesn't want to be black and doesn't identify as black.

[@aprilchow-chee5281]

Way to divide yet include but yet divide people considered black but not really

[@nela5250]

@@aprilchow-chee5281 that's the point. Asians don't let Caucasians say they asians, Jews, Europeans, White Americans, Australians, etc don't do it. East Indians and West Indians don't do it. Asians: Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Thailand don't do it. Asians don't include Hawaiians, Samoans .... and lastly the entire continent of Arica don't do it. Likeee the most loud experience about being black is how too many of our ppl stay wanting to be someone else instead of building and protecting our OWN culture and traditions. smh Its embarrassing. Like hanging out with that one friend that does anything to be included or liked by other. The insecurity of black Americans will continue to be manipulated and used against us with statements like yours.

[@Savedbygrace33311]

@@aprilchow-chee5281 it’s not divisive, biracial people are different from mono-racial black people and those distinctions deserve to be made..especially in a white supremacist culture where one will get overshadowed because of their lack of proximity..just the way it is

[@c.c.2302]

@@aprilchow-chee5281 way to keep up with the racist one drop rule. This is why the black community will forever remain on shackles. Why is it bad to call a spade a spade? Biracial ppl are biracial

[@chrissyb.8129]

Tia’s hair is multiracial she literally has parents from TWO different races. Most blk people have type 4 hair, yes there are outliers but the exception is not the rule. And before anyone mentions East Africans with looser hair textures, once again outliers, and some East Africans have racial admixtures.

[@PopLife-hb3ks]

Exactly! East Africans have been mixing with Arabs for centuries.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

Are east africans really outliers when there's like millions of them...heck even West african groups out there with lose hair, i get your point tho. but I would just say "black hair" is every hair texture that's on a black person Their head.

[@chrissyb.8129]

@@tsuyuasui7297 notice how I used the words MOST and SOME, reading comprehension is fundamental. I’ve met black and mixed East Africans.

[@tsuyuasui7297]

@@chrissyb.8129 ....okay¿ you still simply dismissed them as being "outliers" in general while the vast majority of them aren't even mixed💀

[@puppyprincess2822]

@@tsuyuasui7297 They are still outliers. I get it, we are the most phenotypical diverse ppl in the world, but we still, by and large/collectively have a "range". As a race, we collectively have kinky hair

[@ayannadaniels9848]

As a biracial women, I’ve come to know/understand/appreciate black culture more as an adult after being raised by white women and not having access to blackness. I’m glad I watched this video and THANK YOU for sharing your insight into why black and biracial are not the same. This is so elegantly said and I AGREE. I know now to be careful in my comparisons, particularly with black women

[@diamondsapphireangel1721]

Totally agree with you. Valid points made. Love your make up, butterflies and outfit.

[@darkfemme4914]

Tia knew what she was doing and targeting Black women for our attention. After she had her divorce I think she feels down about herself and rather than work on her self esteem she has to take cheap shots for validation through putting down black women so she can feel better.

[@justinethomas5020]

Well....She got your attention

[@basedki3780]

This is delusional thinking lmao

[@youjustgotburned3980]

If this is so then this says ALOT about her as a person Which is honestly disappointing

[@anaugustvirgo]

I'm a mixed race black person with 3C hair and I always thought there was something wrong with my hair because even the mixed people in movies and TV shows I watched hair long loose curly hair, while mine was very tight and on the shorter side. I can only imagine if I wasn't mixed with tighter hair texture. Tia's ad was just overall cringy and how many damn products do we need, like really 😅

[@mastercyclonia]

I wore my hair not defined and my mother told me it “would have been cute” but it was frizzy 😂, I’m laughing because I was so disappointed for like 5 minutes but then I realized my mother is a victim of not being around ppl who praise our hair. After that, I developed the confidence to just wear my hair non manipulated. Thanks for this video! This discourse is needed.

[@tshegomofokeng1684]

I don't know how to describe it, but Tia is representation for black women in non-black women spaces. Like non-black people see her as a black woman representative of ordinary black women. But for black black women, she's not our fighter

[@td4079]

She’s easier to digest in non-black spaces. Many times also the negative stereotypes that black women face are place on her/women who look like her in those spaces. Tia is a black woman, she shouldn’t be the representation of what blackness is as a whole but she is part of it. We can all do exist. Most of what I don’t get is when black people who have not been here for multiple generations dating back to slavery always think they can tell black people who is black because in “your country” these people wouldn’t be considered black. Most black people here who has ancestors who were slaves are mixed at least by 15-20% regardless of your hair texture.

[@zainhyukmcadam4874]

Heck even in non-Black spaces she shouldn't be our representation. She's biracial. 😭😭

[@jtm881]

@@td4079 I think this sums it up quite well👏

[@codewordeiei0404]

@@td4079 Your stance is so old and weak. Americans are speaking on Americans, if that ain’t you…just watch. Lots of Americans are mixed and yet most identify with their dominating race, also with consideration of the race of their parents. With your old school logic, black ppl should be called mixed and mixed ppl yt. You said yourself that most black ppl are 15-20% mixed…so if a black person has a child with a yt person, automatically that child is less black than yt but yet you say they are are black. Where’s the real logic? I live in the South and yt ppl recognize biracial from black, also different shades of skin colors within blackness. How would systematic racism exist? How would difference in treatment of field enslaved black ppl and house enslaved biracial/light skin black ppl exist and etc? They recognize the difference, she is not a true Black woman to them. You are deceived! We can’t all exist if others participate in the erasure of one. I’m glad many Blk women are more educated nowadays because we would probably regurgitate backwards without understanding, knowledge, and awareness 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@kellyroyds5040]

We let this happen. In the 1960's and 1970's there was 4c representation. Ultra Sheen, Afro Sheen, Posner, etc had TV commercials showcasing our beautiful hair. Fast forward to the 1980's, where relaxers, weaves and extensions were basically forced upon us and most of us did not resist.

[@-_Somebody_]

The Jhery Curl 80s 😅

[@kellyroyds5040]

@@-_Somebody_ Yes, that also.

[@trishmalone5639]

Oh my goodness, you are taking it back to the real Truth! Back then we did embrace the Afro Sheen and the big fros. But the Unspoken Truth is that many of their models in the commercials had 3b/3c/4a hair. That's why most of their Afro were so big and bouncy! Most of didn't know all that back then. I come from a family where there are all sorts of different hair textures. But back in the day we all used the traditional black hair products. Now all the hair typing and eleventy thousand million different hair products has made the hair divide even greater😥

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

We let this happen when we dubbed biracials as black, and all their looser curl, lighter skin, whiter features, as black too. It's like we wanted to replace ourselves with what we want to be.

[@vikki9350]

I stopped wearing twist outs after my son was born... it was too much work. A month ago, I was trying some new products, and twisted my hair up. After a few days, I was wearing a twist out. I was so uncomfortable because I received SO. MANY. COMPLIMENTS. One of my (white) coworkers said, "Your hair looks amazing! What did it look like before?" She sees me everyday, but she couldn't remember what my hair looks like. It's exactly why I stopped doing it. I want to wear MY hair, not my hair manipulated into a socially acceptable style. It was an exhausting day. Then I went home and washed my hair.

[@refi6438]

Are you sure it not that its just unmanageable and manipulating it makes it more manageable for you??Im 3c 4a texture and manipulating my hair makes it more manageable with styling. If i dont I cant even get it a ponytail because its so thick. Just a thought girly!

[@canttrustbusdriverstoarrive]

Why would you stop styling your bc of people opinions ? Do you.

[@giggles1219]

That's weird

[@katg8449]

The color of your eye makeup is insanely beautiful !! :) It Makes your eyes look striking

[@WilliamsPinch]

So when Tia says black hair, I’m going to choose to believe she’s talking about the color of her hair bc ain’t no way she’s talking about black peoples afro texture hair. 😂like, nah.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

😂🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@moniqueloomis9772]

😂🤣 Good one! 💯