WHEN BIKERS ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE 2024

[@nochannelz5815]

Racing in shorts, constantly looking back, cross holding the throttle... geez

[@volvo09]

I was trying to figure out what he was doing.... What a flipping idiot... So excited to say "haha, i'm winning" what he crashed. Wouldn't expect much else from someone wearing one of those fluffy helmets ...

[@markdavies5508]

Now we know where McDonalds gets their hamburger meat from.

[@TheRealSykx]

da fuq did i just watch

[@jojomc69]

one question I’m not a native english speaker what does cross holding the throttle mean?

[@demophys4883]

@@jojomc69 You normally operate the throttle with your right hand. This fool decided to operate the throttle with his left hand, across his body. Hence the term cross holding.

[@kostasrp6634]

We have an epidemic of angry people who don't know how to ride and have no reason being on a motorcycle

[@ALCLCFVIS]

riding in urban areas makes anyone angry....that's why I shift to the car now and again....though accidents tend to happen when I do

[@strictlyformyninja]

Not really. Many people ride without any issues. Only the angry ones get featured.

[@ZacharyGregory-zk6ur]

Most people I pass on motorcycles don't have a gopro on them while riding. It tends to be the ones recording that are looking for issues

[@Okurka.]

You won't see them ride in winter; they're all car drivers who only ride a motorcycle in summer.

[@aalandk]

They're all americans btw

[@jonathanhayes2985]

5:56 Right, be mad at the car that beeped cause you can't manage to down shift coming up to the light correctly, and then take forever to get back into first and get moving

[@ivoryhanzo3041]

what a highly regarded fellow

[@loftyintentions1985]

Yes he can't ride but he could have broke down. The driver doesn't know and should show a pit of patience. How would they feel if their car packed in and people behind were beeping at them. Unnecessary.

[@jonathanhayes2985]

@loftyintentions1985 would have agreed if he didn't find it necessary to give them the finger, that essentially escalated the situation for no reason.

[@chivo22121]

@@loftyintentions1985if he broke down, get the fuck out of the lane. You’re on a bike not a car

[@loftyintentions1985]

@@jonathanhayes2985 the middle finger came after the impatient beep so not even relevant to what I said. So you don't agree because he gave the finger.

[@mikerotch3158]

Riding in T-Shirt and shorts... on a sports bike even. That is beyond stupid. But hey, you look SO cool, right? Right...?

[@volvo09]

And look at that ultra cool fuzzy helmet!

[@ma3stro681]

These types are always the worst riders too … 🤡😵💀

[@Dangerwiggles]

​@@volvo09 Bet under that fuzzy cover is a Ruroc

[@Yakiniq-n7o]

It doesnt even look cool…maybe if he was wearing jeans and a hoodie 😂

[@bonse1]

Makes me laugh how people are ok with letting everyone know how shit they are.

[@classikz]

5:45 why give someone the finger when you don't know how to ride?

[@volvo09]

Seriously, if you can ride takes 2-3 seconds to tap, tap, tap, tap down into 1st gear. He was struggling too much with that.

[@AyAyRon.]

​@volvo09 He stopped in 5th...how do you even do that? 2nd I can understand, but 5th?

[@exa5649]

@@AyAyRon. worse is he was trying to go on 5th.

[@atomx111]

if the roles had been reversed, he probably would've smashed the car's mirror

[@argrides8440]

I fully agree with all of the above.

[@daddystu7046]

1:40 Well at least he won the race.

[@terryrobertson111]

Someone pass that rider the hamburger helper

[@2006Whippet]

And provide us with some quality entertainment. 😂

[@22Epic]

He lost, the finish line was farther away.

[@fdhmcking]

😂

[@MegaRaven1968]

Most of the so called “riders” should buy gears instead of buying expensive cameras 😅

[@sendit7777]

They should buy riding lessons first. Lol

[@GaryM-ft7pw]

The usual mix of biker incompetence and bikers turning nothing in to something that perfectly explains why the accident/fatality figures are so appalling

[@tomwagner6334]

🎯

[@timothyknight2236]

Why is it always sport bikers that ride around rev-bombing and flipping everyone off?

[@davidjones-vx9ju]

egos and cameras

[@jamesmicheal8736]

As a rider the rev bombing is hilarious. Those are the guys that blow the engine at least once in there life.

[@M4rciuZ]

They paid for four cylinders so they needs to hear them revving for self satisfaction.

[@loftyintentions1985]

It isn't 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@argrides8440]

3:30 Hope you're not calling that a sport bike. Otherwise you need to see a doctor before getting back on the road. It's not the bikes, it is the sort of person that rides it. Admittedly, most of those people prefer liter bikes.

[@Doom-Head]

Holding the throttle with your LEFT HAND, are you out of your GODDAM MIND???

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

At least he had the proper shorts and t-shirt protective gear.🙄

[@studisco2327]

Front brake on gravel or at very slow speed with any steering angle on is a near guaranteed crash - don't do it.

[@Rogueonepigeon]

I don't know what is more unstable on 2 wheels, 4 year olds without stabiliser wheels or American riders.

[@rideinnl]

I did it at 7:53 :)

[@JeffGeisd]

I can’t understand the stupidity of flipping people off. It does show the bikers lack of maturity though.

[@AnythingForSouls]

3:48 left debris in the road ? where ? seems to me like you put your foot down at 3:50 for some reason while leaning which caused the bike to go. Maybe you and the dude that went down in the same spot were just going to fast for the turn? guy behind you made it fine.

[@gab-bm4ez]

plus zero body positioning

[@classikz]

nobody wants to admit that they're just bad at riding

[@nochannelz5815]

Absolutely. The video showed zero debris. What it did show, is the foot came down and immediately after that the bike started going down.

[@christaylor1479]

This what happens if you ride with feet splayed out like a penguin, foot hit the road early and then the bike was out of control, No debris

[@AnythingForSouls]

@@nochannelz5815 I think it was panic the bike dips just a bit before the foot comes down so i can only assume that they panic reacted by putting their foot down rather than sit up more but its so odd.

[@StrawDragon]

5:50 why did you flip off the car for honking because you dont know how to ride or shift? You just pull in the clutch and slam through all gears with each foot press then go.... get off the road and learn first.

[@left4cash]

Dude tried to drive off in 5th ahah

[@dgphi]

You can't in general just slam through all the gears on a motorcycle.

[@StrawDragon]

@@dgphi Do you ride? You sure can pull in the clutch and drop down 1st and release.

[@dgphi]

@@StrawDragon Yeah, I ride. I have some videos. I see that you ride too. I'm surprised that you haven't noticed that you can't in general always click through all the gears when you are stationary. I should have specified the stationary part before. You can click through them when you are rolling, but not stationary, unless you are lucky. That's because there are dogs (that's what they are called) on the sides of the gears that have to line up with holes on the sides of neighboring gears on a shaft, and they aren't always lined up. I'm sure you have noticed this. You often have to roll the bike a little forwards or backwards, or engage a little clutch with the engine going, to get things to click into place.

[@StrawDragon]

@@dgphi While I have ran into that before, it seldom happens. But then again I am not in 5th when I come to a complete stop, but depending on my mood I maybe in 2nd and shift to 1st when I am stopped or just before stopping.

[@therealjoebailey2]

So many avoidable mistakes

[@VroomNDoom2602]

1:06 That may be one of the scariest clips I've seen. Crashing at 100+mph with no gear when there was no hazard in sight except for yourself.

[@Eirehunter22]

My thoughts also,he was moving at a serious pace so I can only imagine the injury’s were pretty severe in that crash.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

A circus monkey could ride better.

[@ma3stro681]

@@Eirehunter22We can only hope. Classic Darwin Award candidate … 🤡😵💀

[@colinlyders]

5:35 - noob rider comes to a stop with his bike still in 5th gear, holds up traffic while he dicks around trying to get moving & then has the audacity to flip off the driver behind him for honking. How about owning your rookie mistake & apologising instead of helping to reinforce the already bad opinion many car divers have of us motorcyclists. 🙄

[@ma3stro681]

Not to mention him and his mate are both wearing t-shirts on sportsbikes … 🤡

[@charlesbynum]

Give him a break. It was probably his first time in 5th gear.

[@colinlyders]

@@charlesbynum 🤣

[@slimfit767]

1:54 u can't be serious. 5:26 🙄7:33 front brake on gravel? Really?

[@RideFree317]

Got to know your own limits, some are just more skilled and you won't keep up with them .

[@jozinzbazin2222]

What do u mean front brake? How else is gonna stop?

[@slimfit767]

@@jozinzbazin2222 u don't brake on gravel,especially front brake.

[@jozinzbazin2222]

@@slimfit767 😂😂😂😂 use your feet? It’s not ice…

[@slimfit767]

@@jozinzbazin2222 mess around and find out like guy in the video

[@mert1920]

1:16 what happened there ? his throttle stuck or something ? 3:46 lady it's totally your fault. wdym by the road maintenance. its clearest road i have ever seen lol.

[@ridewithme413]

Watch the whole video I posted. Your comments confirm our point.

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

He tried riding with his left hand on the right bar at high speed and f'd it up. The entire point is that the fine gravel could not be seen.

[@spacetaco048]

"Be careful" "👍" *_Proceeds to do the stupidest thing imaginable while speeding_*

[@greyfisher577]

Typical Harley rider at 3:30 riding in the Mercedes blind spot, and then raising his hand as if it was another car trying to run a biker off the road (sometimes that would be good thing). So evident of lack of rider education...the most basic of basic road riding principles...don't ride in blind spots....maybe he doesn't even know what a blind spot is....probably...likely....a fool with a short riding career in this case...

[@mikec5309]

The more I watch videos like this, the more I’m convinced biking is actually safer than statistics would have us believe. We know that speed is a major contributing factor. We know cars will turn out in front of us. We know driving in blind spots is a bad idea. We know riding without proper gear will leave you in a world of hurt. Just about everything in this video has a great potential for being avoided.

[@yousefzozw1248]

00:45 not cool dude

[@terryrobertson111]

Total douchebag move

[@CameronLyons6]

There’s a lot more backstory. She literally was harassing both of them. A hospital security guard even pulled up on her at the gas station at one point to tell her he was gonna call the cops on her if she didn’t leave them alone. She proceeded to harass them and even stopped in the middle of the road. That’s what caused the mirror punch

[@MaGe-su4uc]

​@@CameronLyons6sry, but you better call the Police then punch the mirror. That makes you not better than her. Selfjustice is absolutely wrong.

[@CameronLyons6]

@@MaGe-su4uc okay snowflake

[@VroomNDoom2602]

3:17 The driver was not careless. You had plenty of time to react to the signal. Don't ride next to people; remember that you don't exist in their eyes. What's really careless is riding with no jacket, gloves, or, I assume, proper pants.

[@grandprixjames]

Yup! In the blind spot the whole time and decided to hang out when the turn signal came on. What a dufus!

[@jasonallen3973]

Since the bike was matching speed, maybe the car thought they wanted to ride in harley formation -- side by side in the same lane.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

Hey, he's wearing a sleeve of tattoos for protection.

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

Any carelessness on the rider does not excuse the car driver of their carelessness.

[@VroomNDoom2602]

@@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk The car driver isn't excused, but us motorcyclists don't necessarily make it to the courtroom if something happens, so we need to prevent all incidents.

[@josephkay7785]

Sure, triple digit speeds while looking over shoulder and wearing running shorts. What could possibly go wrong?

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

I think we saw what could go wrong!😁

[@Arian.0.0.]

The guy in 0:45 is so uncool. The poor old woman.

[@j.b.delaney3444]

Typical, though...bust a mirror and then run away like a scared little girl.

[@blown_off_socks]

she was following them for like an hour, after being told to stop by police and security. she earned that mirror punch.

[@mert1920]

think the same. even if she with the bad attitude, i don't think i can do anything like that ever.

[@jll8]

Tough guys

[@ridewithme413]

Thanks for using my video. Hopefully in some small way someone will learn something and will essentially be safer. My husband is safe but we’re still waiting on confirmation on the total cost in damage to the bike and whether or not it will be totaled. Ride safe y’all! ✌️

[@joe-31]

5:49 Matt is wrong here

[@a.a.5386]

Some bikers need to simply chill out ffs

[@richardvalitalo3670]

Just leaning doesn't turn a motorcycle.

[@File001]

2:39 Had he used the front brake, he would have better chances of slowing down. And it doesn't seem he's going that fast. Front brake is not your enemy, folks. Whoever told you that does not know what he's talking about (I mean, I've been told to only use my rear brake if I'm going too fast into the corner by my bike mechanic who is himself a long time rider!). Just learn to use it.

[@M4rciuZ]

You can use the front brake even while cornering, just don't pull it like like hell and gently progress until you reach the right speed.

[@File001]

@@M4rciuZ Exactly. Never grab it, only progressively apply more pressure, and when you reach the right speed slowly release it - it's trail braking. I've done it many times.

[@volvo09]

Yeah, I don't understand people riding fast that can't use the front brake... The rear is like 25% of what your bike is capable it.

[@Simon-bu4kc]

when braking in a straight line with a bike 80-90% of your stopping work is done by the front brake and tire, I honestly though that's common knowledge like... basic understanding of physics

[@alexanderjanke1538]

​@@Simon-bu4kcIt depends on the type of bike*. You are right for sport bikes and sporty named bikes. But 90% brakingpower on the front on a Enduro? Now way. Not even gonne mention Harleys etc

[@mr.b3168]

I love how Harleys are always being hated on, but you can clearly see who are the goofies of the motorcycle world.

[@TravisPNW]

Hahah… yep!

[@ThePlacehole]

you can only see those who record...

[@mr.b3168]

@@ThePlacehole you mad

[@ThePlacehole]

@@mr.b3168 with you around, its safe to assume

[@mr.b3168]

@@ThePlacehole u mad

[@waterfordMARTIN]

Thanks for sharing

[@xagtly]

I'm only up to the third episode and can honestly say that these people shouldn't be on bikes.

[@mecanicul_8]

Very nice video ❤❤❤

[@diabx0r]

"Okay but be careful"

[@cprn.]

Your English improved quite a lot since when you've started the channel. Nice. Keep it up.

[@Okurka.]

It's still a horrible Dutch accent.

[@EpicHawk]

Colored the gas red in thumbnail 🤣

[@espenbgh2540]

6.27 - Josef My Life: Filter in trafficc, - the most safe thing to do in traffic - NO PROBLEM! - You got what you came for, and proved the thruth in the safetyness in filter!

[@officialCHRISA]

Them stones 😂😂 i hate riding over them lol

[@NWCPcbenchmarks]

1:32 what a shock he crashed.

[@guymanning9513]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people ride with no gloves on. Whats the first thing to go down when you crash? Your hands. Crazy.

[@Homeward2019]

Another edition of Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes. SMH.

[@louper3002]

I'd honk at Matt too, he should be on a 250CC with a learners

[@Old_Geezer]

If, like the majority of these people, you are paralyzed from the neck up, don't buy/ride a motorcycle. The world thanks you.

[@xhxsikx]

that last one got me like wth happened? see's his friends shoe spiked into the bike somehow

[@marknagle-vi7og]

Flipping people off for their own stupidity while driving reckless.

[@aps-pictures9335]

7:56 I feel the pain 😅 forgot my D-lock was on a rental bike and did the same this week 😢. Costly mistake!

[@yoshikigrg8]

Rookie mistake by the first dude.

[@goldie6579]

1st video. That’s what happens when you take the mirrors off your bike

[@janklan2740]

Bikes are not too dangerous until you combine them with shit or no gear and ego or stupidity.

[@ma3stro681]

As Americans love to do … 😂🤡😵

[@argrides8440]

Funny. Usually the bikers are being utter Karens about car drivers not looking the way the riders think they should. Yet, this video has a handful of riders who wouldn't have crashed had they looked where they should have.

[@_watashi.2462]

1:25 what bro even trying to do lol

[@kostasrp6634]

1:25 nice to see that insta karma

[@volvo09]

What an idiot.

[@rcmaniac10]

so I'm guessing because he had left hand on right bar he got confused with the counter steering. and ended up crashing.

[@RideFree317]

Shouldn't even be on a bike

[@RideFree317]

@rcmaniac10 yeah . I don't know how he thought he could control it like that as it is very unnatural thing to do

[@kostasrp6634]

@@RideFree317 You can if you have the skill. He doesn't

[@kevindowell6003]

I rode almost 30K miles over the last 18 months, not one single incident I could send in to Motostars, I must not be a very good rider😢

[@JuanRamos-dr7bs]

1:11 This is the most stupid ''accident' I have ever seen in my life fr

[@AlexRye-sv6no]

3:28 GET. OUT. OF. THE. BLIND. SPOT.

[@David-wz3jf]

BLIND. SPOTS. ONLY. EXIST. IF. YOU. DONT. SHOULDER. CHECK.

[@dudesavemycar]

Loud bike, I was still moving at a faster pace than that car and was passing slowly, guy didn't check at all to see if I was there. 👍🏻 Notice how I didn't lose my mind and flip him off like other riders would though 😂

[@charlesbynum]

@@dudesavemycar You were going faster until you slowed to match his speed. A rider who doesn't throttle up in that situation either has another agenda or he doesn't know how to ride..

[@icecold9511]

​@dudesavemycar I noticed you barely were overtaking until the moment of drama, then finally accelerated. You were waiting for that moment for the sake of getting on moto stars.

[@dudesavemycar]

@@icecold9511 yes I purposefully put myself in danger in hopes of getting a 10 second clip on someone else's KZbin channel 😂👍🏻

[@atom608]

Bro that aboo ninja race probably the most aura points lost iv seen so far on this channel

[@pucknhusker9426]

Ride With Me... yep the road works guys don't think about bikes. They do a quick sweep and think job done. I don't know what registration costs in America but in New Zealand its more to reg a bike than a car, road works everywhere always.. the lights don't pick us up and the list goes on. I would contact someone about getting paid for damagers.

[@adam346]

some of these people are very gracious to cover their would-be assailant's license plates.

[@Szymek1285]

Crazy riders

[@hondamotorsrider]

3:48 is the debris in the room with us now? Because it DEFINITELY wasn't on the road...

[@dropbearj4820]

Cheers mate

[@moto-stars]

Hey!

[@paradiselost9946]

3:00. so far, the only sensible guy here... good karma bro :)

[@waterfordMARTIN]

Thank you 😊

[@espenbgh2540]

0.24 JustaSloeguy: What happend here - did you meet another reckless biker on the inner shoulder?

[@senraXD]

3:42 - Leaning too hard, got scared and put a foot on the ground. At least it looks like that. Or maybe lost traction on rear.

[@ridewithme413]

Good observation. Lost rear before foot came off peg.

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

@@ridewithme413 I think it was the front, but she definitely slid a bit before putting a foot down.

[@TheRecyzter]

Awesome video! 💯 Thank you for the feature @ 4:22 ! 🙏🙌

[@diegomunoz9735]

1:28 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marklohmann6267]

Speed and high performance machines don’t mix well with immaturity.

[@stevetyler9893]

2m in, riding over their ability and no gloves - sheesh

[@janoslamka6511]

6:10. More Drahovce ❤❤❤

[@johnkessler9878]

I know most drivers won’t see me so I’m extra careful. That lane splitting at high speed in traffic looks really dangerous. Death wish, organ donors.

[@eddiethedestroyer]

Especially that one in Manila. I've lived there and the roads can be pure mayhem. Gotta be riding a LOT smarter than that guy was.

[@johnkessler9878]

@@eddiethedestroyer i agree. BTW: I lived just outside Subic Bay when my father was stationed there.

[@calvindmncn8085]

3:34 Reason why loud pipe don't save life.

[@davidbodan4781]

1:03 XD

[@Sjegar71]

I did not catch what exactly happened with the biker in the 4rd clip 1:03. Could somebody explain?

[@2006Whippet]

Well, he's racing and spending more time looking back instead of forward and using his left hand on the throttle. In other words, he's riding like an idiot.

[@argrides8440]

It's what happens when your ego is larger than your common sense.

[@user-is9nm4vw8j]

His bike wobbled, his hand slipped, missed the throttle, confused because he don’t know how to reposition himself and then crashed. He tried to turn off the bike too i think

[@EmoKen]

Correct Title 😂😂😂

[@davids11131113]

I don’t know why anyone would lane split it’s just so dumb.

[@law7116]

Dont ride in the middle of the lane where the oil slicks are.

[@skullmexa9651]

1:35 simply beautiful and well earned güey! jajajaja

[@snakesocks]

Any decent rider saw that last one coming a mile off.

[@lukeorlando4814]

Can I please throw out there that if a cars yellow light is blinking. They are telling you they intend on moving over not asking your permission, if you see someone telling you they are moving over it would be much better for your plastics if you believed them rather than overtook them.

[@sitesofelasticy4402]

What is the name of the song at 5.00;anybody??

[@CrossPlaneCraze]

2:35 honestly how in the hell do you crash at slow speed and on top of that just using rear brake to make damn shure you're not stopping the bike on time 😂

[@Supika893]

Dress for the slide, not for the ride !!

[@obiwankenobi5769]

don't go fast when lane splitting and you won't crash

[@chivo22121]

5:26 did you put the wrong video in or something?

[@hondamotorsrider]

5:50 put the keys up, "matt". You can't ride.

[@SherkaNn44]

Tandoori chicken ?

[@Psyrecx]

3:42 *Don't do things on a bike you cannot handle, like leaning further than your ability allows you to...* 'Road debris' is just an excuse, for lack of skill.

[@Okurka.]

I bet you've never ridden a bike.

[@Psyrecx]

@@Okurka. You must like losing bets. You're where the term 'degenerate gambler' comes from.

[@charlesbynum]

3:48 There's a speed you can plant your foot on the road surface and it WON'T turn your toe under and try to drag you off the bike. Not sure of that exact speed but it's much less than this rider was cruising. Keep your feet where they belong and there's no crash here. Didn't see any debris, just panicky rookie nonsense.

[@smokey2535]

3:26 tf is that lane positioning?

[@argrides8440]

it's the 'making sure to maximize the chances of that car coming over, so I get some good content for my channel position'.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

That's the go ahead share my lane position.

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

That's the maximize lateral distance from the nearest potential threat position. It worked. He should work on minimizing time alongside cars, but that is not a lane positioning issue.

[@Okurka.]

Either you don't ride a motorcycle or you need to do a safety course.

[@richiebordelon8164]

What debris

[@atsekjoker]

i downvote because you are censoring comments.

[@moto-stars]

naah

[@RapidFz]

This isn't reddit buddy😂

[@dgphi]

KZbin automatically filters a lot of comments.

[@yassassin6425]

No one is censoring comments. It's called shadow banning, a crude spam filter that indiscriminately afflicts everyone in time who uses the comments section of You Tube and something that a child could comprehend. You are not special.

[@Lilith-Rose]

KZbin automod filters potentially offensive comments, it's not the channel removing your comments its the platform, you need to learn to regulate your emotions and moderate your language

[@daz3434]

Aboo ninja stay away from me on your bike.

[@espenbgh2540]

4.10 - Ride With Me: - NO THANKS. Now that bikes looks like shit, is.

[@daisydomergue9047]

Show me the debris @ 3:50 .

[@calvindmncn8085]

Remind me a video of a ytb called rizzlyride, who say gear overrated lol

[@jasonallen3973]

3:48 So the county should clean up the invisible debris? How do they know where it is?

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

Because they put it there?

[@Okurka.]

@@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk 'invisible' is the key-word.

[@rachelharper3778]

Where is this? It's gotta be Virginia. They leave gravel all over new roads in a way that could only be described as 100% intentional. Fun! It now seems like chucking handfuls of sparkly gravel across the new blacktop is their new stupid-ass final step in the "process". It's an F-you to bikers and drivers who don't appreciate the sound of hundreds of tiny rocks ruining their paint. Stupid Virginia.

[@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk]

@@Okurka. Presumably the people who were working there knew the type of materials they were using so knew to check for it and clean it up.

[@Okurka.]

@@sdgvlkjnasdlfkjawlk Presumably they also can't see invisible debris.

[@crudboy12]

4:13 No. It's 100% your fault. There was barely anything in the road. If you can't react to a small amount of fine gravel, you were going too fast. There was no negligence except on your part.

[@Funbobbyrides]

Glad it’s not just me as I did rewind multiple times and couldn’t see a thing!!