When Devoted Fans at Eurovision do the Heavy Lifting | TOP 25 (1975-2023)

[@aufaidasehn]

2011 and 2015 were the most extreme years when it comes to results. 50 points was enough to come 10th in 2015, but not enough to come 23rd in 2011.

[@giovanniscg8540]

With the new voting system the same applies to 2023 and 2018. In 2023 only 130 points were necessary to hit a spot in top 10 but in 2018 this score would've been translated in a bottom 10 result 😮

[@SuperJNG18]

1984 was wild cuz Luxembourg - which, if you want to talk about dodgy voting, that scoring any points at all is remarkable - managed to come 10th with something like 37 points?

[@mariomirceski661]

@@giovanniscg8540 but 2018 had 6 more countries participating than 2023 that's 144 more points to be distributed

[@giovanniscg8540]

@@mariomirceski661 which is literally the same reasoning applied to 2015 and 2011, the latter having three more countries. You clearly are unable to follow a reasoning, what a pity

[@giovanniscg8540]

@@SuperJNG18 in 1984 "professional juries" preferred to give points to Luxembourg and not to Italy, which clearly tells how juries have been rigging votes so many times and the day they'll be cancelled it'll be a better day 🥰

[@OlliTamminen]

Ah, this makes much more sense than the opposite. Lots of neighbor voting and Eastern European entries. So interesting statistics, great job again!

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

There was Sweden and Gemany entries too, no won thou🤔

[@MiroHeinonen]

How about this: songs that had a slow start in the voting but then rose to a high placing - and vice versa (good start but fell down in the placings).

[@mewliter6902]

Main takeaway is that 2011 is a very very weird year on every level to the point of it being such a statistical anomaly. Second is that wow I never really thought that Italy 1984 was sooo polarizing, crazy the voters either had it high or scored nothing at all, especially when it's such a classic (at least to me, robbed despite being top 5 lol)

[@SuperJNG18]

Italy have been polarizing as a magnet their entire history. They’re remarkable cuz even the countries you’d think would vote for them every time pick the darnedest years to give them nothing (Spain, for instance: two out of Italy’s three wins, the Spanish jury didn’t give them any points…except in 1990, which got their 12. Meanwhile, Norway - a country that actually has voted for Italy pretty often - was one of only two to not vote for Italy at all.)

[@xander2609]

@@SuperJNG18 In 2021, Spain's televoting gave Italy 10 points. So in the end Italy received 10 points out of a maximum of 24

[@giovanniscg8540]

Pretty sad considering that juries preferred to vote for a useless cheap crap like the Swedish one and not for a pure piece of art like Franco and Alice's song.

[@lisagna7234]

The titles you chose for these videos really helped me understand the concepts even without reading the full explanations

[@vladd896]

I already expected ex-USSR and Balkans taking most places, but hell, how much Azerbaijan is in it! (Especially the only winning song in this list)

[@ariccua6101]

LTU 2007 as background music at the intro. What a guilty pleasure that song was.

[@SuperJNG18]

"Für alle" is a weird entry cuz it managed to broadly appeal to a bunch of countries, some of whom I wouldn't have expected to vote so highly for Germany (12 from Cyprus!), but not their two closest neighbors, Switzerland and Austria.

[@xander2609]

I've always thought Switzerland and Austria wanted to sabotage Germany. "Für alle" has very beautiful lyrics so it's still more suspicious the other german-speaking countries didn't give it anything. There are other instances of Switzerland and Austria suspiciously marking Germany down in the 80's

[@harryrey2771]

The Dach-Countries (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) never really vote for eachother, they just don't. I don't know why exactly, but there's not much love between those countries when it comes to eurovision, although, in other aspects, we actually are very friendly together. I'm Austrian btw.

[@ImStevan]

due to the nature of the idea, many of these are simply results of blocvoting, where one country scores high in culturally similar countries, and countries with a lot of diaspora, but flops in others. Bosnia 2003 is a perfect example in this video, getting a 12 from Turkey, 8 from Croatia and 7 from Austria, but still finishing 16th out of 26. Honestly surprised Loco Loco isn't on here considering its points breakdown

[@hallaskjerah]

Slovenia gave 0 points to Bosnia&Herzegovina that year.

[@ImStevan]

@@hallaskjerah fixed now

[@clarinetmoonesc]

I guess thanks to the juries loco loco couldn't get high enough of a result to bring its percentage up to appear on here

[@ImStevan]

@@clarinetmoonesc or a lot of the top 3 finishes they got were watered down by several low scores

[@GeorgeSinn]

Greece in 2011 was third in televoting...

[@clarinetmoonesc]

This video is not about the televote

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

So that explains how Azerbaijan won!

[@xander2609]

The power of block voting and diaspora is certainly the reason why many of these songs are here

[@tzoreehandler9163]

I expected Greece 1998 to be here, as it finished 20th out of 25 countries, getting points only from one country (the 12 points from Cyprus...).

[@clarinetmoonesc]

The result was too low for its percentage to be high enough

[@morbidsearch]

"Devoted fans" is a funny way of saying bloc voting, diaspora, and the odd jury's pet.

[@sirprintalot]

man 2011 just made no sense on every level huh

[@some.random.baldie2111]

An excellent upload this is. The equivalent of not studying for an exam until the last minute and doing enough to pass. 2015 has to have the most top heavy top 9 ever. Bojana was lucky to make the top 10. The one year Montenegro should have got the 10th instead of Serbia (in fact higher as it's my #2 of 2015). Vanna was lucky to finish 10th in 2001. Shame she didn't go with 'Kao Rijeka' as that would have been a safe top 5. It'd have been interesting how Dino in 2011 would have done under the system we have now. Ireland 1978, I love that entry. One of their best and such a great vocalist. It wouldn't work now but I'd love Sweden to send something like 1996 again. Lovely song. It's funny how Severina is one of Croatia's best results in recent times (along with Jacques and Let 3). Turkey 2007 helped with a lot of Turkish communities (and a Western styled song) carry it's votes.

[@arnenys480]

Lithuania defenitly deserved that 11th place in 2023 ❤❤

[@Beckford4000]

Basically, this video shows how diaspora voting & Bloc voting (Russia, Azerbaijan, Greece, Turkey, Bosnia, Croatia, Albania) helped weak songs do much better than they should've.

[@pultaceous]

Watched both of your videos on this. So interesting to see the UK dominating the other video and the years 2011, and 1984 being repeated so much. One criticism that I have personally is that it gets a little confusing in 2016 and after. Since the juries and televotes are now separate, I would have expected 70-80+ voters instead of 37-43 voters.

[@clarinetmoonesc]

Thanks! The formula does accommodate for the new system post 2016 and puts it on a level playing field with the others though

[@jamesjohnson8279]

all of a sudden i see why the voting system changed after 2015, those results are weird as hell, huh

[@cypriotmappers5342]

I think that it was mainly due to the 2 nul - points

[@clarinetmoonesc]

@@cypriotmappers5342 it was because the top 9 took up a vast majority of the points leaving the rest to be decided by not many countries at all

[@jesperhjellnes5861]

@@clarinetmoonesc Comparing 2011 where the points were literally all over the place, and 2015 where the biggest favorites got most of the points, we find Hungary 2011 getting 53 points and being bottom five, while Serbia 2015 also got 53 points but finished top ten. I love your video ideas. I love diving into Eurovision voting statistics.

[@vladd896]

​@@jesperhjellnes5861damn, Hungary 2011 bottom 5 still hurts

[@SuperJNG18]

2:24 jumpscare alert

[@guidogoldberg3873]

i dont know if it is already said in the comments, but i would love a video like this but backwards, ranking countries that despite being voted by a lot of countries, they could've placed much higher than they did

[@clarinetmoonesc]

It's linked at the end of the video

[@jodygrottino8257]

The last one out of the blue literally killed me 😂😂😂

[@mayomayu1242]

Damn it, I keep getting jumpscared by the copyrighted pitch-shifts xD

[@vincentesc]

It's either 2011, 2015 or balkan

[@fluffygalaxy6]

I am now really curious how many points those entries got from the others on average (not including 0s of course)

[@logi-a]

Could you do a video where you rank each country based on how much you personally like them in ESC? (that’s to say, If you haven’t done it before) :) I think it could be a fun and interesting video. Just an idea. I understand if you don’t want to do it

[@bake7599]

Swiss did bad in 2023 but in 1996 he will be in TOP 5

[@tony0930]

2011 results were kinda kreyza

[@fabb4i2]

I don't remember Running scared getting so many 0 points. 😮

[@cabemaru1]

Mmm.. Bosnia and Azerbaijan

[@x_n_x_gal9161]

"Den vilda" will always be my favorite Swedish entry, we should have sent Nanne Grönvall in 2005 again and then we might have won, but no, they chose freaking "Las Vegas"... Sweden has become sooo mediocre in ESC, I miss entries in Swedish, like "Stad i ljus", "Den vilda" and "Satellit"...

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

Still none won even received the most 12 points 😥

[@mkennedy9822]

How is 30/42 a low percentage of countries. That means 75% of countries voted for it.

[@clarinetmoonesc]

It's very low for a winner

[@riinak7212]

4:08 36.5 other voters? Was one really short?

[@clarinetmoonesc]

The .5 is the rest of the world

[@KiKi-vt6du]

Please do a Video with high places but never receive high points ..

[@clarinetmoonesc]

You're in luck kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4CkoIaYocxoiqM

[@CarlitosJS]

Ovo je balkan... C'mon

[@leylayetmez]

This video shows that how 2011 corrupted

[@matijamaksan4344]

Its weird as hell year, but i don't believe it was corrupted (winner is a bit sus). I only know that it is interesting and exciting to check statistics. 2015 seems bloody epic as well.

[@ESCBaku]

You have any proof?

[@EmoBearRights]

I have to admit i like these songs more than the supposely broad based appeal flops well apart from that boring Lithuninan song this year and that shrieking dross, the rare Bosnian song i dont like and that boring ass Ukranian song. Oh what a surprise Russia and Azerbaijan are in the list! shocker! Really shocked about Trenti di Tozeur and Audio and Love in Rewind.

[@fabb4i2]

So basically no one voting, yet placing top 5.

[@clarinetmoonesc]

Well if no one voted then you get 0 points so... no

[@fabb4i2]

@@clarinetmoonesc Well obviously