When Does More Money Not Mean Fewer Kids? (A Data Deep Dive)

[@jameswhyte5094]

Aristocracy of England pre 1910 was a good example. The oldest son inherited the estate, the daughters married as well possible and the younger sons went into the military, law or church.

[@AprezaRenaldy]

Many nations have different family structures. In Arabs 2/3 is inherited for male 1/3 for female. In igbo Nigeria, it is inherited divided equally male & female . There is a group inherited Passed on to women also Southeast Asia (Minangkabau)

[@jameswhyte5094]

@@AprezaRenaldy Yes the English aristocracy heavily favoured primogeniture, where the eldest son inherited nearly everything. This kept the estates fully intact and strong. Although dowries for married daughters and support for younger sons were important too.

[@SpasmodiusHyperFantasia]

​@@AprezaRenaldy Planned birth is manslaughter😂 you are responsible for ending a life All life is a cul-de-sac An infinite point of null 😂😂 People have kids to sell an image posed like ill fated dolls "Look I'm so Ideal" And its like reality check The Poster child is dead " hi I'm death rolled over " 😂😂😂now ain't that some kind of @ss ugly

[@SpasmodiusHyperFantasia]

Accidental birth is essentially manslaughter And Planned birth almost meets criterion of what could be considered murder

[@SpasmodiusHyperFantasia]

If that gets censored 😂😂wow it's facts man ... Sorry to inform you but life just happened 😂😂🎉🎉

[@EliMacalikova]

Guys, this is not really to the topic, I just started to listen, but I just wanted to thank you for clarifying what you are trying to say. Not only that I'm not native english speaker, its my third language and I've taught myself through movies and games. So while I can communicate, I don't always really understand words that are not in normal everyday vocabulary. Also I'm not very smart or educated person. :D So you explaining everything means a lot. You are making me think bigger thoughts while I'm doing chores. Thank you for that. :)

[@russianmom8311]

Don’t forget about grand kids! By the time some of the older ones leave, you guys should really think about your duty of helping your children with raising theirs! It’s really hard taking care of toddlers for years on end all by yourself as you know very well. I really didn’t want to get nannies because children get attached to care givers so fast! But I really welcomed my children becoming attached to their grandparents. I think it’s really healthy for them.

[@caustinolino3687]

Sorry this concept is completely foreign to Anglo saxon protestants.

[@williamclayton9566]

@@caustinolino3687 hahahahaha

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Yeah, someone forgot to leave this memo to the boomers

[@TheBlueBookGentleman]

Thoughts on banning all US politicians from being allowed to hold dual citizenship?

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Won't stop the underlying dual loyalty & if anything, when caught in egragious trachery, their having dual citizenship allows the removal of their US Citizenship & easy banishment & deportation after punishment.

[@tann_man]

That's anti semetic!!!

[@michaels4255]

The Supreme Court struck down laws against dual citizenship because a US citizen wanted to serve in the Knesset. Unless you either can change the supreme court personnel or get elected officials to override it, we can't change it without a constitutional amendment (which you know who would fight hard against).

[@EriPages]

​@@tann_manYour anti-Anti-Semiticism wasn't fierce enough. Your Digital I.D. will be locked for a period of 14 days. You will not be able to access the internet during this time.

[@TheBlueBookGentleman]

@@tann_man maybe that’s the point?

[@deckwolf3442]

I’ve only recently started watching your pod, but your takes are so toasty that I decided to turn on notifications. The more I here from you the more I here arguments that I had previously concluded from different thought processes, especially regarding techno puritanism. Keep going guys, you’ll succeed among centrists and moderate conservatives.

[@kaybrown7733]

I watch for exactly the opposite reason. I couldn't disagree more with 70% of his takes. He's smart, but he misses the forest for the trees. He also isn't pro equal protection under the law, so I am waiting to see if he'll put his rights where his mouth is.

[@tann_man]

Not really. They refuse to talk about HBD

[@michaels4255]

Malcolm: "does not make the population more fit, but only increases the number of offspring who survive" - but Malcolm, that IS fitness - by the definition.

[@aleidius192]

It is until it isn't. Rabbits might not have a problem, but for humans if there aren't enough smart people to produce what dumb people consume the dumb people are going to starve to death. The unrealistic thing about Idiocracy is that it exaggerated the amount of time dumb people could spend wondering why the Gatorade didn't grow food before everyone just died.

[@mykalkelley8315]

Tumors are so fit, am I right guys?

[@michaels4255]

@@mykalkelley8315 If specimens with tumors outbreed specimens without tumors, then yes. That is the definition.

[@Michael-j4l3d]

Artificially rescuing the ones who otherwise would die reduces fitness.

[@elKarlo]

We need the old urban Catholics. Basically having a village inside an urban area works for fertility rates and social cohesion

[@caustinolino3687]

Catholic school tuition equating to paying for college 3x has ruined this.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Whatever happened to them? I guess when the priest are raping all the kids they don’t like staying in the Catholic Church. Former Catholic, I don’t care if you like it.

[@xbluesaintx]

The pre-industrial statistics are relevant if a civilization wants to consider creating a Natural Agrarian Breeder class separate from the industrial sectors to take advantage of those benefits.

[@drakethesnek6429]

As someone who likes to pay attention to online black communities, I've noticed an extreme aversion to marriage and children among wealthy BM. Secondly, BW often times date down financially, even when they're middle-class.

[@Tygertyger8008]

Speaking as a member of the Black community, there is no "often" with Black women dating down financially. It happens more often as they get older and start to realize how their options are narrowing, but that's just turning nonexistent-to-rare to rare-to-uncommon.

[@rb98769]

Single parenthood is super high in black communities, so I wonder if that heavily skewed their perspectives on family over time.

[@drakethesnek6429]

@@Tygertyger8008 my comment was anecdotal. Not statistical. Take it with a grain of salt.

[@Tygertyger8008]

@@drakethesnek6429 As was mine; it's not as if I have actual statistics on this. What I do have is experience with dating Black women, and I can say that many if not most of them are... rather selective... when it comes to the income of the men they date.

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

In the graph how do they measure mixed families? Cause I imagine wealthier black peoples might date out more

[@PothePerson]

My husband always jokes that he's going to get another younger wife once I age out of child-bearing. At least I think it's a joke...

[@ericschafer287]

Black fertility increasing as income goes down might be explained by the marginal utility of each child in terms of public assistance. There are income thresholds on assistance that will have behavioral impacts like tax brackets. It would have been very handy to overlay the income distribution with actual income dollars, food/childcare aid thresholds, and demographic distribution. Was that income percentile within the group or the whole population? There is a high likelihood that at the bottom of the income distribution that children cost them nothing and provide them with income. Considering the marginal utility of wealth, those are going to be important dollars and why we see a slope rather than a step. As that cost is entirely bourn by society, a policy correction might be to remove needs based assistance in favor of a UBI. As women in the other 70% of the group only want one child on average, it is reasonable to think the bottom 30% do to if there isn't a financial incentive to have more.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

This is exactly where my mind was going with it just the choppiness of the charts at certain levels tells you there is some sort of economic thing going on, but the author of this podcast is correct. Any kind of giveaway should be given to everyone not to Little specific groups in order to gain political Power over them. Pretty sure that’s in our constitution if not our history.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

By the way, I think there is something peculiar and corrupt about the Anglophone world which leads to all sorts of corruption which we pretend is not corruption. The reason that No One country can make healthcare work yet. It works fine on the continent or an east Asia is very telling to me. The world always has a bunch of vocal rich people telling other people what they should not do which is really what they should not do, because it will hurt the rich. There is a kind of government corruption that stems from the upper classes that have too much control over the government. I would also argue that representative democracy versus straight democracy is the reason the 2020 election was stolen and the reason for a lot of the problems in the United States if you think Greek mobs are bad , I wonder what the fathers would’ve thought of 200 years of their own creation, turmoil, bullshit, and killing soldiers in the street because they were demanding pensions that you promised them. I suspect they would’ve been OK with it because they created the system to protect their own class and just wanted to get rid of the king without giving anyone real democracy, but I digress

[@tann_man]

Surprised you didn't mention fertility by wealth and sex. Male wealth and fertility is positive across the board and female wealth and fertility is negative across the board

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

I’m glad you pointed this money thing out no one ever thinks about it. Here’s a thought experiment if you wake up tomorrow like that movie from the 1980s and there’s no one left on the planet except you and you walk by a bank with the vault wide open do you go and grab the money or do you walk past it to the supermarket or the store where you can actually get items? Without people to provide products and services the cost of those products and services go up and up until you get to zero population where they become nonexistent and money no longer has any value. Good for you for pointing this out. I don’t think a lot of people can wrap their minds around it , it’s for economic that has no intrinsic value even gold base money has no intrinsic value Outside of the value that can be extracted. Economies exist to serve people not the other way around this is why if you have robots making everything and you have no consumers you have to make robot consumers and this is ultimately stupid. It’s stupid because economy does not exist for itself it exist for human beings.

[@m0use1983]

That moment when your husband admits he's gonna trade you in like a used car the minute you stop being his baby factory... classic KZbin

[@Zantorc]

European rabbit issues stem from myxomatosis.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

I was gonna say for lucky feet and you still get diseugenic effects

[@notabeta3675]

I cant find any pics that aren't cute?

[@junehope5152]

Malcom is not wrong I have a disabled middle daughter we had more children expressly because once we’re dead she will need looking after and the state is not up to the task

[@gigamaxextra]

Video summary Increases in female freedom and income reduce the amount of children women want.

[@tann_man]

And for men the opposite.

[@AprezaRenaldy]

In my country (Developing country) : standard established man ready to get married: Own a house (36m²), own a car and have an income of 2x the minimum wage And stable income. 😂Meanwhile in the United States standard established man ready to get married:Have an income of $100,000 per year, own a Ferrari And 250m² home .

[@claudeyaz]

It's not like that for most americans..we get by and married with about 40k a year

[@lanceroy6324]

As someone who knows someone that can buy a ferrari, try 400k. The highest cost of living is collocated with the highest wage.

[@claudeyaz]

And owning a home? Most of us rent and rent..and eventually? Used to be able to purchase a "fixer upper," for cheap.. BUT the "house flipping," stuff? That's been popular..has even made fixer uppers too expensive, cause of price flippers that cut corners

[@AprezaRenaldy]

@@claudeyaz What I am entering here is the minimum standard that a woman or family would want. The term in my country is "Mapan". America women have high standard like 6 feet tall and 4x the minimum income. While in my country it is 5 feet 7 inches and 2x the minimum income.

[@EriPages]

Stable income is a thing of the past Anyone can get fired or a company can go bust at any time

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Your wife is absolutely right on this if you look at the Jews with money, they are all secularists, not all but most, if you look at the poorest use, you will meet there Hasidic intend to have more kids. I don’t know that much about the Amish as I have not really dealt with any of them other than to buy a dog one time.

[@AustrianPainter14]

You guys were totally wrong about diversity and multiculturalism increasing birthrates. A new study just dropped that proved my theory that ‘bowling alone’ also extends to mating. by Umit G. Gurun and David H. Solomon

[@BarbershopBytes-ox3dr]

I'm not an expert demographics, but I think I can kind of explain just do lived experience why you see the sharp decrease fertility amongst I i guess the best way to call it is the elite blacks and a super high fertility in what we could call lower class or poor blacks. I've come to the conclusion that identity plays a huge role in shaping fertility rates, especially when it comes to how closely someone's lived experience matches cultural expectations. For Black Americans, I think identity is currently more tied to poverty, which gives poorer Black people more confidence in their self-image. This confidence leads to higher fertility rates because they feel secure in their cultural authenticity. In contrast, wealthier Black individuals, who don't see as many representations of themselves in media, tend to have less confidence in their position and its longevity, leading to lower fertility rates. For white Americans, I think the dynamic is almost the opposite. The white lower class is invisible in media, which results in lower confidence and reduced fertility rates, except in cases of unplanned pregnancies. On the other hand, the white middle class is overrepresented, so many white people-regardless of their actual wealth-aspire to that identity. It seems like white people view being middle class as the default status, and even the hyper-wealthy will often downplay their wealth to present themselves as middle class. When white people feel aligned with this middle-class identity, they gain confidence, which leads to higher fertility. But as they move into higher-income brackets, their confidence in their identity decreases, which lowers their fertility rates. Ultimately, I think the pursuit of authenticity is a kind of demographic aphrodisiac. When people feel their lived experience matches cultural expectations-whether it's middle-class whiteness or working-class Blackness-they gain confidence in their identity, which boosts fertility rates.

[@Steelblaidd]

Interesting thesis. how would we test ut?

[@BarbershopBytes-ox3dr]

@@Steelblaidd it wouldn't be a clean study. I guess the best we could do was look for demographic representation not only dividing by race, but also dividing the races into separate economic classes and seeing what percentage is the most represented to see if there's correlation between representation and fertility.

[@joes973]

Your baby is very cute! Could you lower his mic volume a bit?

[@johnelway9879]

I am from Somalia a country in Africa with a falling fertility rate from 7.5 to 5.1 in just the last 10 years. I’m really worried seeing the problems of a declining fertility rate. For us fortunately our neighbours have massive populations (60 mil and 160 mil vs (20 mil of us). There’s an ethnic survivability push for us to stay higher than our neighbours. Also the homogenous nature of our society (ex: Gulf states Japan etc.) is another push.

[@opodobed]

Sound is too bad to listen 👂🏻

[@PepitoSbezzeguti]

You haven't explained how in an AI world kids can make money with skills, and money won't. If anything, as we are seeing already, AI will deflate cost of intelligence, skills, and labor.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

My wife, while talking to a friend who had a friend at the house that was from Africa was astonished to find out that according to this African women African women did not have a lot of children. She then went on to explain that most of the women she knew had two or three children, but their husbands had multiple wives so the husband had seven or eight or nine children. This is obviously just hearsay, but it is an interesting thing to look into it, it interests you. My understanding from secondary sources like Zeihan was that most African countries are set to have declining birth rates, even if they don’t today because the vectors are going in that direction and countries like Nigeria have very healthy birth rates, but not all African countries. Have actually looked into this one myself.

[@libertykim6438]

The risks of using birth control drugs don’t outweigh the benefits. Women struggling with long term health complications could have been avoided just by using a condom

[@urbanlumberjack]

Look at the long term failure rates of condoms. Might as well do it raw

[@farmtech-vn9ew]

NFP or cycle based birth planning can be as reliable as condoms are advertised to be. Most people don't have the discipline to follow it though.

[@maidende8280]

@@farmtech-vn9ew Not if you hyper ovulate or have an irregular cycle, & the latter is pretty common. Non hormonal IUDs you can remove at home are ideal.

[@cedricburkhart3738]

I love the idea of you guys having Grand children 🤩

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

That right there, sir is why socialism is popular in Europe and not in the United States. It is used as a graph system for politics in the United States whereas in Europe, it is pretty much given to everyone if we were to start at year zero I would be pretty opposed to socialism, but considering we are, we are at right now and considering I think we’re about to have a cultural collapse, and due to the fact that I no longer believe capitalism is worth it. I am going to vote for giving money to people rather than foreign government and pretty much that is the choice we’re not going to spending we’re not going to balance our budget none of that is going to happen at this point, and there are plenty of reasons having to do with the Fiat system And the banking system in United States as collateral in concert with the Chamber of Commerce another business community leaders have pushed to keep housing prices high by bringing in massive amounts of immigrants and exacerbating the problem so they’re short term. Profits will continue to go up, another words, businesses will fail if they do the things that are necessary to make the population not fail so it is either or and I am for keeping the population higher , and letting the businesses in banks fail because I have to choose one of the other

[@xbluesaintx]

Are there any Benefactors out there that give grants to Ultra Pro-Natalist families?

[@TSDamiano]

Dont think

[@johnelway9879]

Even some of the Eastern European countries with favourable Neo natal policies (ie Poland etc) have not yet yield any benefits.

[@TheSnoopyclone]

In 1985, the principal from the movie breakfast club earns $31k a year and owns a home. $31k in 2024 with inflation is about $92k.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

16:04 No, i think it is falling that fast not due to global cultural norms but due do modern style economies taking hold. I know a bunch of fairly traditional people with 1 or two kids or only planning for two. You just can't send so many kids to university which is considered by many, necessary to make ends meet as an adult. Smaller family sizes are also envouraged by high rents. This is why when they get richer they have more kids cuz the culture still promotes having kids but the modern style economy resists it.

[@PothePerson]

Leave our bunnies alone! They're not that bad. A lot of our rabbits are really cute.

[@AyaKatz]

Your presentation made me wonder what the impact on fertility rates during Biblical times the practice of levirate marriages had.

[@anon2034]

18:00 great point!

[@ikengaspirit3063]

You guys should have talked about Kazakhstan. They apparently do have higher fertility the richer someone is.

[@gliceriagumuercindodocapit1459]

the baby makes the audio bad

[@SPQRxUSAxNUSA]

Uber wages are NOT going up.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

Malcolm, I love you, but you are pocket sanding yourself here. Please read "Mind Viruses" by Arctotherium (which I believe the Stonesky article is based on, idk if that was mentioned). He discusses the Bradlaugh-Besant trial, and clearly states that the methods discussed in the fruits of philosophy were neither new nor all that effective. The cause was the moral normalization of contraception, not new and more effective methods

[@biggorilla1216]

Something you must consider about the tfr by percentile with african americans is that the majority of black americans will be within that high correlation range from 0 to 30 since they are so poor. so for if measured by intra-community percentile 80-100 would be equivalent to 40 to 100 on the all american percentiles.

[@jammmy30]

HEEELLO? Have you for a second stop and thought that THE SIZE off cash handout MATTERS? If you give a 10k a 100k or 999k don’t you realize that the result would be DIFFERENT?

[@maidende8280]

It’s REALLY distracting when Indy gets loud.

[@SimoneandMalcolm]

Ya - wish I knew how to take that out

[@maidende8280]

@@SimoneandMalcolm Maybe some type of noise cancelling, or put a cone around the mic and the mic as close to your face as possible?

[@lanceroy6324]

​@@SimoneandMalcolm*Simone reaches for a gag*

[@mikehanson9497]

She’s a baby, they do that.

[@CyberChud2077]

You need to get more used to doing tasks while accepting small distractions. It’s not a virtue to need perfect quiet to do small tasks. Also hating the sound of children is not really associated with fertility Edit: It would be better for your own effectiveness to practice paying attention to things while distractions happen- even increasing your ability to pay attention slightly would be very useful to you. There is always a point where even very distracting things (such as anxiety) simply become “tuned out” by your brain, through consistent exposure. Think about working in a movie theater that plays the scariest movie you can imagine. Eventually, after seeing that movie 3000 times, not only would you not be afraid of it, you wouldn’t even see it as you went about your work day. It would become like the wallpaper. Source is me, I have completely nullified insanely strong 10/10 anxiety using exactly this process, in many different applications. I have also greatly increased my attention span through meditation. Meditation is nothing more than the process of learning to accept your mind wandering, and return your attention to whatever focus you choose, over and over, as needed. It’s not magical or impossible, you can do it, you are smart and capable enough if you watch this channel

[@rb98769]

France was the most populous country in Europe until the 19th century. The demographic situation they faced most definitely had a role in their decline compared to other European powers of the time.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Because of the industry I’m in, I have noticed people in Wellesley, Massachusetts, and Dover, which are very rich towns getting Oil assistance, even though they have two or three brand new SUVs in the driveways. What I’ve come to conclude is that there are elderly people living in these houses that are getting the Oil money because they have no income that does not mean they’re not a millionaire, from what I understand, they do not care how much money you have they care directly about income, which throws a whole monkey wrench in your way of looking at things if true and I’m pretty sure at least in Massachusetts it is true now how much of a monkey wrench or the nature of that monkey wrench I don’t know But it’s something to consider and if you’re doing the research anyway, and are interested in going down that road have at it . I have a source that I do not know to be completely credible, which tells me half of the food stamp money is being laundered into the Democratic Party so there’s that.

[@gelatobenne4342]

The kid is drowning you out when you talk.

[@AllanTidgwell]

But when does mo' money not equal mo' problems?

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

It’s never equal more problems for me. Every time I’ve had more money life has been better never any problems coming with it never. Now when life goes in the other direction that brings problems. This is one of those things that rich people try to tell dumb, poor people how that money really sucks and you just better off being poor at the end of the day more money more problems. The millionaires strives to be billionaires, they must be all sadist looking for more problems.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

What is the correlation between people born into wealth and overall degeneracy you guys got me thinking here. Everyone I know except one guy who is an extreme degenerate comes from a family of means. This might be a cultural or rather than genetic thing but the more you know.

[@MA-gu2up]

For gulf countries, nationals have higher fertility than migrants The graph contains the nationals fertility rate

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

I don’t know the exact date of industrialization in France. I have read that following Napoleon‘s advance on Russia. They came back from Russia with all sorts of birth control methods. I don’t know if the dates lineup I associate industrialization in the English and Scottish world in the 1700s, not sure if these dates lap

[@opodobed]

Malcolm's sound is way too low

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

I know people who are poor and have a lot of kids yet relatively high income. I know poverty is counted by the amount of people in the house so as the population of the people living in a household go up income has to be forced down. Am I wrong on this as regards government accounting. For instance, in Massachusetts a person or a couple with eight kids would be considered poverty line or just above it making $85,000 a year which is higher than the median income in the United States if I recall or if it is still at about $56-$60,000 I haven’t looked at it in years

[@TharsisianRegion]

That’s what I thought too, these people could be poor because they have lots of kids. They are not having kids because they’re poor

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Where do these people with less educational attainment live? I’m going to bet it’s disproportionally geographic because colleges associated with cities and you can live a quite successful life in the country that doesn’t require credential, but I don’t know about the actual data so I digress.

[@joshuagenes]

Elon Musk 12 kids

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

If you can pay school systems to create a population problem, you can certainly pay families to fix it. Let’s take a look at the actual cost. You can run up debts giving people houses to have kids maybe want to raise the number of kids to six or seven I don’t know and for people with lower amounts of kids perhaps they just get an interest free loan it doesn’t matter at the end of the day you can run up the debt it’s not getting paid if there are no kids in the economy 20 years hence whether we run up the debt or not it’s not getting paid if people have kids, it will get paid back. There is only one way forward and that is state sponsored fertility programs. Free market grassroots level shit will not work and shit push by the upper class that only wants certain people having kids for cultural and social reasons isn’t going to go over well with people except their people and of course, those are the only people they care about , good luck in any event. I hope your efforts bare fruit and getting the population up, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. We only got secularism when the state pushed it. We only got roads and technology when the state pushed it. Yes, without tinkers tinkering on their own and creating the fields of science, we would be nowhere, but never really got anywhere without the push of the state. I have more libertarian sympathies than most, and I don’t like this fact, but it is a fact if you want to fix the problem, and the problem has to be fixed in the next 20 years if at all, then you’re going to need the state to push it. Otherwise your population will decline and stabilize and if we get to keep the land from other people who will have the power to snatch it from us then in time it will solve itself, but the economy and the meantime will be destroyed, and the standard of living of the people in the United States will dramatically go down for generations to come . Barring for any massive technological innovation or a social one for that matter.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Now the hour of world has a funny thing where you can marry for wives and whenever you want a new one you just have to divorce one of the fourth. You have a bunch of poor Arabs that can’t get married because they cannot afford a dowry. this is not just Arabs, but people in the Muslim world Similar to Africa. This has to have an impact on who’s having kids. It would be cool if we could isolate by actual couples so we don’t count a bunch of poor men or women who have no chance of having children at least that’s true of men.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Of course you’re not seriously suggesting it after her reaction. It was just a big joke.

[@calcornell]

TRIFECTA!

[@mattstachelek3410]

Well less money 💰🤑 or no money more kids just = government dependence?

[@gigamaxextra]

Please be measuring children per woman. All other metrics are useless🔥

[@adurpandya2742]

European colonial powers (specifically Britain and its client state Germany) had skyhigh birthrates despite industrialization specifically beacuse they got shittons of money from profitable colonies.

[@serniebanders2858]

The title of this video gave me a headache and a half

[@antonlundberg9131]

first

[@Curmudgeonist]

Fewer uses of less I see.

[@RuslanLagashkin]

It got quite disgusting at the end. Guess it is not enough for me to completely stop watching this channel, but it comes close. Unsub for now.

[@michaels4255]

Jansenists. RC advocates of an individual predestinarian teaching that was similar Calvin's views.