When gps fails

Whoops my bad... don’t shoot me please. Fishbowl bus, old school schoolie tour etc...

[@ramsaymillar]

I was on the road full time in my Diesel Pusher all across America since 1997 and Grease Monkey knows his stuff. Find some great mechanic you can trust. I trust Grease Monkey such a soul and of great knowledge, care, and quality. You're among the best on my road trip of life. Thank you

[@elizabethcarlson1321]

I was glad to see the old IHC Superior Body school bus in your video. I knew it was at least 72 or older as that was the style of the rear windows from that vintage. I really loved those old IHC busses. Most of the ones I worked on were 345's, and not 392's. They were really good motors, and tough as nails. I got so good at doing clutches on them, I could change a clutch, throw-out, flywheel, and pilot bearing in 1 hour and 45 min from pushing it into the shop to driving it out! We had a lot of beginner drivers, and those 345's would really hold up. Dirt poor wages back then, but it sure was fun! Steve Carlson I agree with the others, I never use a gps, only a paper map.

[@dickjohnson4268]

That is why it's called G-PMS. It does what IT wants to do. "Turn right at the next ravine, watch for the boulder on your right, then when you come to the fork in the road, take it." (Much resect to the Great Yogo Berra ).

[@dickjohnson4268]

@@Bill23799 typo.

[@ericouellette5293]

The international bus brought back memories of my uncle's international truck. His was also a 68 with a dump bed and his had a 345 v8 gas with a 5 speed and a 2 speed rear end. I remember riding with him at summer when we go visit family. I live in Michigan the upper peninsula and my uncle was in Maine. I always wanted to play in it when I was young. He would let me play in it making believe I was driving it. Lost my uncle a few years ago.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Ok to clarify my gps works great, it’s a garmin. I missed the turn, it’s a woman’s voice I tuned her out. It comes naturally i guess. Turns out my wife does not use apple maps, she uses google maps on her phone so it was google that sent us into the restricted nuclear site for a short cut.

[@ericdee6802]

Having a paper map is a must in my opinion, I guess you can say it's a GPS's spare tire.

[@fixt100]

paper maps are like the traveling board game for adults much better with red string and push pins if you have the space and a co pilot tracker.

[@1982MCI]

Eric Dee not anymore there not. There really aren’t that many places throughout the entire country where GPS fails

[@1982MCI]

Eric Dee not anymore there not. There really aren’t that many places throughout the entire country where GPS fails

[@ericdee6802]

@@1982MCI I beg to differ with you. In my town, gps will send you in circles,alot of "Unimproved" county roads, culdisacs, and outer hwy roads which are not recognized. I used a GPS to run up the coast upto Washington,got so friggen tired of driving in circles, pulled into a Walmart and bought a rand McNally....idk I guess for some GPS is the way to go, as for myself .meh!!!🤔🤪

[@jebsails2837]

I use the GPS to get me to the general area. I then switch to the analog (ie paper, usually and Rand-McNally), especially as I went to school East of the Craters of the Moon area. Narragansett Bay

[@oddwad6290]

The older ac condensers achieved a tonnage boost by spraying water over condenser coils . Maybe have a mist sprayer in front of radiator or a cowl to catch and direct air into radiator achieving higher air flow at higher speeds .

[@Egress.]

He would have to carry the water though, and excess water can actually rot out the radio

[@larrym6019]

That's a great old skoolie! Vintage coolness. It's probably still better than a new RV.

[@lukestrasser]

If the power difference is that apparent up in the high country, Lenny is going to feel like a rocket ship when you get back down to sea level!

[@marshallbaldwin395]

Mister on the radiator use a solenoid to turn it on did that on my old gm astro caboverworks great Always have a paper map as a backup truck atlas works best i have the old man version large print and maps laminated so when i spill coffee on it it doesn't hurt it Have a good day THE GRUMPY BUS

[@stantheman489]

From watching your video's I have a renewed interest in getting "Ol Bessi" rolling down the road again, Thanks I think.

[@Vegeta_SuperSaiyanGod]

watch your show all the time. im not even into bus stuff but i love taking things apart/fixing things and find it really interesting. i build hot rods and restore old cars as a hobbie and use to be an auto tech. look into amazon for your fans for cooling they have really high cfm fans for pretty cheap and they work really well. bought a 3000cfm fan for my old duster havent had a problem from it for year. i use to get them from summit racing but was expensive have on from summit in my gremlin. 2500cfm from summit works just the same if not worse then the ones i got from amazon for 3/4 less the price. i would say if amazon says 3000 cfm its the same as a 2500cfm from summit racing. but definitely look into them for your bus you can even install a dial switch to control the speed of the fan if you dont need it to go that fast all the time. i have a dimmer switch for a light on my old camper van for an exhaust fan for the back cab to keep it cool the switch goes from 2v to 12v. i even have one 10in hung up as a fan for the cabin wired up the same way works way better then a reguler fan. those high cfm radiator fans are the best and really cheap on amazon

[@robertborchert932]

Cool! INL! Nice find. My brother used to train Navy Nuclear Operators there. He was a Navy Nuke.

[@MrSpad007]

Git A Rand-McNally Deluxe Motor Carriers’ Road Atlas!! Yep, what the bedbug haulers use to find houses. You can buy the cheaper ones but they won't hold up to rough handling over time. No charger needed but you might need a map light. ☺ The fuel savings alone will pay for one. Never mind saving a great deal of aggravation.

[@kevinburgess6112]

i really liked the old school bus conversion, thanks for taking the time to show it to us

[@mikemullay5622]

"Signs, signs, everywhere, there are signs. Do this don't do that, why can't you read the signs. "

[@57629589]

When you first crossed the canyon and looked to the right, that's where Evel Knievel launched from.

[@jackbaker5284]

Those lava flows make wonderful snake habitat. Not the happy snakes either,lol.Just ask jpaydirt on youtube. You need boots folks...Jack

[@Mercmad]

Theres a grave there of a little girl who was bitten by a snake and died two days later,over 100 years ago .

[@A50S2D]

Personally I believe there is a prankster in GPS that really likes to send us down the wrong road just for the pure fun of it.

[@mjarchambeau]

Don't hurry, don't worry, and don't forget to smell the roses along the way. Words to live by.

[@newjerseybill3521]

"If you're into 2 cycle stuff, they have three wheelers here..." I'm thinking Hmm, 2-71 in it?? hehe

[@keef71]

Had this on in the background and thought you said you were headed for the Idaho National Lavatory! I thought, what the hell is that?! My bad....😁

[@beachbum7750]

Wal-Mart has road atlas. The larger one is very detailed.

[@stevenjohannesen88]

Love the sound of that Detroit, at big cinder butte, regards from Australian coach commander😀

[@American_Jeeper]

The only thing worse than Apple Maps is the old BMW Mk II Navigation, which we had in our 740iL...she once tried to put us in the ocean, when we were in Atlantic City, NJ. If you need a place to stop and turn a wrench on Lenny, you guys are welcome to stop on by, we’re in Nampa.

[@57629589]

FYI, lava flows are very popular with rattlesnakes, they like to get down in crevices and be cool.😎

[@RustyZipper]

🐍

[@2guitarme]

Hey! You drove thru Twin Falls, ID. That's where I live. We paddle in the snake river down under the Perrine Bridge that you crossed.

[@randalljames1]

Electric fans.. mixed bag.. yea can help.. but not usually on the highway.. they tend to block air more than move it at over 40 mph, not sure how the math works out on a sideways mounted radiator works out though.... maybe you will find a ton of playa dust in the radiator..(not unusual, was a mechanic in AZ for decades) Some kind of baffle, scoop or diverter for incoming air might work a lot better.

[@jpspen]

Is there such a thing as a fan shroud for that ? It won't pull much air without a shroud.

[@jamespn]

The exhaust on that bus looks a little Mad Max, I like it.

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

I'm glad your trip was pretty darn good. As always, great videos.

[@jayterry7291]

Well look on the bright side,ya don't need chicken lights at night.

[@flexhoncho6272]

Enjoy watching you repair the old buses! Do you have something you could use to hold the camera while you're working?

[@andytrubridge5310]

Love your videos, haven't found a bad one yet... Stay safe...

[@siaripop7]

Apples GPS has been a problem from day one when they would route people into lakes (drivers were smart enough not to go that far). I thought they had fixed it! Google Maps is pretty good, but dedicated GPS like Tom-Tom and Garmin tend to be more accurate as long as you keep them updated. A 1% grade is 1 foot for every 100 feet. A 6% is 6 ft for every 100 feet, and hold onto your britches if its downhill!

[@rnreajr9184]

My last GPS boof was going north of Winnemucca, NV trying to take a short cut to Grants Pass, OR. I didn't realize that Google Maps quits working when you lose your internet connection and just kept going north instead of turning west to go through Lake Point. By the time we got our bearings, courtesy of an innkeeper at a tiny town, we had to keep going north to Burns, OR., then head west and south west to get to Medford, and from there to Grants Pass. It added 6 hours to a 13 hour trip. I learned about downloading the map data *before* leaving instead of relying on data to keep feeding it. Your oil leak is just your engine's way of telling you that it wants to be a genuine Detroit!

[@ROTAXD]

Gps still leaves a lot to be desired. Every year we’re pulling sombody out that folloes their gos down the seasonal road that becomes first a quagmire (in mid November) then becomes one of the main snowmobile corridor trails (dec-march). Had they simply followed the signs and ignored the gps they’d be fine.

[@RustyZipper]

But the gps told me to take the lake road across

[@prevost8686]

I run two separate GPS units in my motorcoach but I still study and keep a road atlas with me at all times. The big Randy McNalley ones with the laminated pages will last a lifetime. The exhaust pipe routed out the top of that bus looked out of place. I also drove an old international bus like that one when I was a lad. Same engine and everything.

[@MMHCC850]

You went to the real area 51, you could have been disappeared, never to be seen again but I guess the guards also watch your channel. They knew you took the wrong turn, and left you alone man😨. Thank god🙏

[@DonCatherman]

Ol Lenny growling in the background... pretty country side......I did a lot of traveling in my 35 ft RV.....45,000 miles for 2.5 year's out on the road...seen some sights that's for sure...still got the RV..short trips now..a few hundred miles or so.... thinking about a bus now..why ..I'm not really sure...the one I'm looking at needs some love and finish work..bath and kitchen... Im still thinking about it..... watching your channel has got me wanting it..... It's an MCI...with a tag Axel.. I should get off my butt and dig into it deeper and make a decision I guess......🤔,,,,then maybe a trip to Tennessee and see the bus grease monkey ..lol...that's for the content Scott....I very much enjoy the information and education on what to expect and look for....safe travels guy's...........

[@TheObersalzburg]

Scott, you have mentioned a few times that the speed creeps up on you (know the feeling), and so does the temp. And you seem happy with the power in the mountains at altitude. Have you rethought putting on a turbo? I guess is hearing the whistle worth taking up space and making more heat? Or possibly getting a ticket? ;>) But "cool" does sometimes outweigh practical.

[@nzsaltflatsracer8054]

Welcome to Idaho, the Snake River Plain is kinda naked. The air is thinner up here at this altitude so it's normal for old Driptroit's to run a little hotter & you'll see more smoke for the same reason. Good air flow through the core is a must & as i'm sure you know, lugging a Drippy is undesirable so the OTR fix is to down-shift & get the engine up on the governor. That unloads the engine & turns more fan speed.

[@mmckinley345]

Add a light to come on at 200 cheap insurance for you or if anyone else drives your bus.

[@mmckinley345]

@@staind288 even better

[@larrym6019]

Maybe use an arduino and rasberry pi to monitor your analog signals from sensors and warn you when you reach thresholds.

[@larrym6019]

@@staind288 after blowing my bus engine and spending 15k I'm making mine idiot proof... so I can't screw it up again.

[@mmckinley345]

@@larrym6019 you don't need anything that fancy. ur one of those a pie is the solution for everything guy.

[@larrym6019]

@@mmckinley345 I do love pie.

[@dustermaniac]

Maybe add an audible alarm that would trigger at 195 degrees so you will hear an alarm before running too hot?

[@AMStationEngineer]

I'd have converted the fare box into a candy dispenser, and made sure the stop cord - still went 'ding'...

[@MarkMorland]

Salt Lake City is at about 4200' elevation, and their city bus lines service some ski resorts at 8500' elevation. In the 80's I know they equipped those units with electric retarders. I wouldn't be surprised if the engine specs were not your average flatlander setup.

[@dumpl3dore]

Scott, try adding a shroud to your radiator before going to pusher fans. Usually makes a huge difference.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

It has a shroud

[@wi11y1960]

5 feet in 100 constitutes as a 5% grade. Truckers are laughing at you for trusting a GPS as opposed to pretriping the route to know where you should have made your turns

[@paulmcguire3789]

I had a 1950 ford F2 with a 1938 flat head V8 that would overheat , I used a hudson sprayer with a longer hose to spay the radiator a little bit at a time to keep the temp down worked great untill I ran out of water in traffic.

[@blurayleader]

Goggle maps, traffic and re-routabtable features.

[@techmaven5900]

Nice 8V71 Loud Bus. Loved seeing those in Queens NY as a kid.

[@tomhull3440]

Thanks for the video. A lot to see how I wish I had slow down and see more. Yep Hoya Hoya Gramps on the couch. Sun City Az from portage Ind .

[@lateefcarrere1649]

Glad the troops didn't take Lenny & you guys out - I'm sure they realized that "enemies of the state" are not traveling around in a repurposed Greyhound bus. I myself have never used GPS - I rely on my sense of direction & road maps/atlases. I hope the additional fans will help w/the cooling issue.

[@gregpallett1839]

Rinse all the playa dust off the radiator!

[@timharrison9060]

regarding GPS, always double check your route, Streets and trips once had me cutting across the White House grounds, even told me I'd have to access 2 gates, glad I didn't listen to it.... look at your radiator, are the inlet and outlet on the same side? if so, you're not getting the cross flow thru the rad at higher speeds, you might need to have a rad shop change that... as always, be safe, Tim and Cat

[@olddragondude4398]

Yeah, apple maps is trash. It's incomplete, and wrong.

[@kevinbarry71]

Signs are important, somebody spent money to put it there, don't ignore them

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

I was looking for the street sign not at what looked like billboard advertising signs ;)

[@RustyZipper]

Was it a picture of a girl wearing nothing but a towel? 🎶

[@crazybill49]

What was that canyon you drove over near the beginning?

[@michaeljohnson1006]

GPS can get you into some dangerous situations.. We were in the alps in france and my Dad borrowed my brothers Renault 21 turbo to go to an astronomy meeting up a mountain.. The problem was it took him up a road in the dark that turned into unpaved with big rocks.. It had know where to turn round got so steep the front wheels were slipping. He had to abandon the car and walk 1/4 of a mile up the hill to the meeting then the locals had to help push him up the track..He ripped the exhaust off, put a hole in the aluminum sump, bent the rear brake limiter, ripped the front splitter off ,shredded 1 tire, dented the underneath.

[@TM15R]

Years ago there was a product called "KOOLIT". It was a wetting agent and weakened the surface tension of the coolant. You would lose an easy 5-10 deg. You might want to try it. Another trick, if you have room. Not knowing what kind of air shroud you have, spacing the fan closer to the rad core will get good results. Good luck.

[@brianchute8517]

Good to see you survived Burning Man! My RV has been to the playa 2 x (without me).

[@natevanlandingham1945]

Without the KZbin thing or should I have said before KZbin did you travel across the country working on Diesels? Or is this something that the channel has afforded you to do, where your able to drive around and do work vs staying at your house/shop and working local everyday?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

I traveled working on buses for a few years before the videos started to take off.

[@alloutofbubblegum8165]

It seems like you had it all dialed in after the in frame rebuild. Hopefully you can get all of the bug's worked out before the winter months set in. I've been in to that place once before, it's really trippy. And yes, it's no joke about all of the no trespassing signs around that area.

[@paulcalhoun6339]

This is hilarious. I worked for years at NPTU Idaho Falls which is located at INEL. ....navy nuclear power Sailors were trained there for years..

[@DreadDoctor]

Nothing will replace a good Paper map or atlas. Every GPS Navigation system I've ever used has sucked in one way or another. I hear alot of people say "itsgreat, it got me there" , not realizing they drove WAY out of their way or took a very dificult way. IMHO its always better to trace it out on a good paper map. Map apps are wrong SO much of the time....

[@badasscouger3]

As far as the bus getting hot, it could be from the top tub fins being rotted out. That is a lot area in prospective to the core not cooling and can effect the performance of the system, especially cooling from the side.

[@jamesshanks2614]

Considering the increased power your getting from the old girl don't you think an electric fan mounted on the outside of the radiator so if she runs a little hot you would be able to increase the cooling by throwing a switch or simply wire it up to an automatic thermostat control to run the add on radiator fan. Too much cooling is not a bad thing.

[@rickrider]

Very cool drive. Once upon a time when my parents live in Filer Idaho, Just outside Twin Falls, we would take that way as a short cut from Idaho Falls to Twin Falls, this sure takes me back. I live in Calgary Alberta Canada by the way.

[@CharlieBrown-pb9xn]

Your gps should have another voice for english that sounds more pleasant. Your channel is a new favorite.

[@josephheston9238]

That Fishbowl has a homemade Environmental Exhaust Package. BTW, if your GPS fails again and takes you to Area 51, play _Holiday Road_ on your Bluetooth (if you have one).

[@torant617]

Im glad you guys made it safe ! Thanks for sharing you video

[@alexb.1320]

Doing your own area-51 type raid eh? =-) At 16:11, what is the name of the town/whats the story behind the numbers on the mountain?

[@mikemullay5622]

When you add a turbo charger monitoring cylinder heat temperature and manifold pressure is going to really be critically important. Is there room to add an auxiliary radiator?

[@alandoesstuff.1254]

I find out west I have more issues with weird GPS routes. My wife and I have taken to using two different apps and if they don't compare we start investigating.. However I do love the GPS and the ability to Google Earth places ahead of my arrival and see if I can (for example) get in and out of the gas pumps. Probably less of a problem with a diesel for you guys, but with 35' gas rv plus 14' toad, its an issue for us.

[@johnmaser7956]

Hi Scott. Joe here I think you’re exhaust system has more to do with your heating problems because the heat can’t get out at 2600 RPM. The engine will pull the load now but it cannot get rid of the heat

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Yes for sure it’s coming off. But if i really gotta get it home to do that. But I’ll be making it much larger and more open for both in and out like we discussed. My wife would not be happy with me if i just straight pipped it for the next 2000 miles home. I worked hard to keep it at 70. It will do more. We were getting 70-71 at 2415 noload on the way out here but not at altitude. It was more 68-69. I’m 5000-6000 ft out here right now. I don’t know what it’s turning now but on the flat i let off at 74 and said well joe got me a passing gear. ;) i just don’t want to use it. It never liked the mid to upper 90’s outside air temps. 70 deg day i can do just about anything and keep it at 180. Lower to mid 80’s it’s 185. After that it’s time to watch it very close.

[@alloutofbubblegum8165]

And in regards to that curtain rod, Amazon has them, but you really need to go searching for them. Try a company called "Sail Right" they have all of that stuff on line and they also offer a print catalog.

[@donraptor6156]

Once was routed 200 miles one way out of my way by bad GPS routes. 400 miles total.

[@johnbarham7718]

Sounds like you had a good day. I was INF treaty Site Host representative for RAF Greenham Common, (Tomahawk cruise missiles) so I know what security is like.

[@mattdomenic4814]

If you add electric fans be sure that you have enough power to run AMP wise. They draw a lot of power.

[@VolksDragon]

Definitely took real maps on a cross-Canadian trip, didn't know where GPS might fail.

[@ncplantdoctor]

You did a “Curb check” and it was still there.

[@jamieadams7550]

Ohhhh! U are so lucky that’s a nuclear test site

[@jamesshanks2614]

I use Garmin gps. The worst it's done to me is getting the address wrong by a hundred feet or so. My gps I use is designed for trucks and rv and automobiles. It has a 7 inch screen plus you can input the length, height and weight of your rv or truck. Food for thought. Mine was designed by Garmin for truckers, RV's or automobiles.

[@dennyoconnor8680]

A whole different feel when it is your bus that is on the side of the road with problems, eh. And, once the density altitude goes above 3000 or 4000 feet any shortcomings in cooling will become an issue. A turbocharger will multiply that.

[@trains4one]

Running over a curb? It happens even in cars and trucks a lot smaller than your bus. Missing a GPS turn? It happens. Ending up at a government installation to guys with weapons, is one of those things, been there done that. You're on an adventure run so enjoy the adventure. I enjoy riding along.

[@63256325N]

Thanks for the tour and the video.

[@HamiltonMechanical]

haha I live in oak ridge :) this happens sometimes :)

[@nicothebassdude]

I imagine the gate guys at ORNL are always like "Oh, here's another GPS genius"

[@HamiltonMechanical]

@@nicothebassdude my in-laws actually did it the other day. I don't know what the heck they were thinking, but save-a-lot was definitely not DOWN THAT ROAD lol. They got searched and inquisitioned lol. and it did not help he's a 74yo wise ass in a vette

[@2flyabove]

But your new radiator has some eaten away cooling fins (corrosion?) so it can't cool perfectly?

[@mpstenz3520]

I sold INL motorcoaches. You’re still alive. Been there many times and they are serious about security.

[@matthewgaines10]

GPS rarely fail. Generally, the position data is very accurate. The mapping and pathing software isn't always up to snuff. People often fail to use them as an advisory tool instead of an authoritative one. Over dependence on technology.

[@mischef18]

The lava fields look interesting.

[@altacat9702]

UTA ...Utah Transit Athority ....is Salt Lake's city bus system ....if that's any help ?? : ). Your adventurous taking that bus way out to Craters of The Moon !!! ...I have been to the Weather Station out there in winter (cold ...real cold and nasty windy) .. .. have fun !!! Thank You for the ride along !!!! ...check out the nuclear powered jet engine if your in that area...

[@altacat9702]

@@douro20 Oh !! Perfect !! ...its been a while since I have been out there ...if you have more currant information on that !! ....just thought they would really enjoy that ...and anyone else who likes engines : ). Thank You !!

[@Wayoutthere]

Oh c'mon surely they won't open fire the second your came into view?? Was the guard kinda nice or one of those grumpy ones?

[@dickjohnson4268]

Yeah. They will open fire.. and stop calling me Shirley.

[@jamespn]

I use an up to date Garman for a GPS, it never lets me down and it also shows the posted speed limit.

[@RustyZipper]

I love my Garmin, albeit it’s not perfect but far better than my Google Map app

[@thomasrodriguez3868]

An uptodate atlas is a awesome back up , Kelly will enjoy it, I’m just saying 🤪

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

Wait, you think going from 197 degrees to 204 is something to be concerned about?

[@mikemullay5622]

Recalculating!! Rand McNally was always my friend back in the day!!

[@CharlieBrown-pb9xn]

Mad Max would supply your needs.

[@ratman5727]

I don't want to sound like a dick, but yet another Apple Nav problem. I am not a huge proponent of Google, or Android either, but at least they are MOSTLY accurate. I am curious to see what you find out on the timing issue. Thanks again for another great update video! You curbed that sucker! -No harm no foul! That's what 10-ply tires are for!

[@CharlieBrown-pb9xn]

Its amazing you know so much about vintage busses and your not 95 years old